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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 6 Mar 1995.
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Halloween

Halloween

alt.ascii-art · 46 messages · 6 Mar 1995 - 20 Oct 2001
Hi there,

I know... it is coming up VERY soon but does anybody have anything 
Halloweenie out there? I am thinking of funny writings 'Happy Halloween'
or a pumpkin / jack o' lantern something like that. Just throw it in my mail 
at sch...@cs.wisc.edu and I will be thankful forever...

Later, 

Chris 
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I'll have to make a new cartoon for the holiday.  Until then, last year's will have to do....


||___|________|__|______|_______|      ||
||   |__________________|
||            \    \       "Boo! Trick or Treat!"
||_____________\____\________ /________  __
|| \\\\                      /         ||
|| ( oo              _  .--.  _        ||
||  \-/ _____ \:::/ ( \/ oo \/ ) ______||____
|| // \   *   %%%oo  \        /        ||
|| \\_|    \  %%%-/   \      /         ||
||_(|||_____\//___\____|    |__________||
/            \)//\\    |____|            \
JRO           (_)(_)   (_)(_)


happyhalloweenhappyhalloweenhappyhalloweenhappyha
ppyhalloweenhappyhalloweenhappyhalloweenhappyhall


 "This buisness issn't goin'
     too well for me."
        \                      ////
         \            .--.     oo )
           \::::/     oo  \    \-/
            oo%%%  * /    |    / \\
__________  \-%%% /__|    |____|_//_________
            /__\\/   |    |    //\\
            //\\\)   |____|    \\ \\
JRO        (_)(_)    (_)(_)    (_)(_)


goblinsgoblinsgoblinsgoblinsgoblinsgoblinsgoblins
goblinsgoblinsgoblinsgoblinsgoblinsgoblinsgoblins


       "Listen, Sissy, you say "Trick or Treat"
       when the people come to the door, and then
       they give you candy. You save those eggs
       to throw at their house, ONLY if no one
       answers -- not WHEN, for cripes' sake!"
                     \
                      \        ////
                      .--.     oo )
           \::::/     oo  \    \-/
            oo%%%  * /    |    / \\
__________  \-%%% /__|    |____|_//_________
            /__\\/   |    |    //\\
            //\\\)   |____|    \\ \\
JRO        (_)(_)    (_)(_)    (_)(_)


spooksspooksspooksspooksspooksspooksspooksspooks
spooksspooksspooksspooksspooksspooksspooksspooks


       "To tell the truth, Billy, I kind of like
        the way she's been doing it... I thought
        that last guy was going to blow an artery
        or something! Did you see his face? And
        I never heard some of those words used
         before, except in an R-rated movie!"
                       \
 _______________________ \      _________
                           \\\\         /
                  .--.     (///)       /
      \::::/     /    \     \_/       /
  *   %%%%%%    /      \   // \\     /
   \  /%%%%\    \      /   \\_//    /
    \(/____\)    |    |     //\\   /
       //\\      |____|    // //  /
      (_)(_)     (_)(_)   (_)(_) /
                                /
JRO                            /

finifinifinifinifinifinifinifinifinifinifinifini
finifinifinifinifinifinifinifinifinifinifinifini


     Pr'haps I'll git around to postin' a new one soon.
Till then, I hope this re-run entertains somebody.

        Jonathon R. Oglesbee
ogl...@mail.fullnet.net-removetoreply

joris bellenger <svz...@xs4all.nl> ASCII art 12 Oct 1998 00:00 · permalink · report

Jonathon R. Oglesbee wrote:

> I'll have to make a new cartoon for the holiday.  Until then, last year's will have to do....
>
>

[snip]

>        "To tell the truth, Billy, I kind of like
>         the way she's been doing it... I thought
>         that last guy was going to blow an artery
>         or something! Did you see his face? And
>         I never heard some of those words used
>          before, except in an R-rated movie!"
>                        \
>  _______________________ \      _________
>                            \\\\         /
>                   .--.     (///)       /
>       \::::/     /    \     \_/       /
>   *   %%%%%%    /      \   // \\     /
>    \  /%%%%\    \      /   \\_//    /
>     \(/____\)    |    |     //\\   /
>        //\\      |____|    // //  /
>       (_)(_)     (_)(_)   (_)(_) /
>                                 /
> JRO                            /
>
> finifinifinifinifinifinifinifinifinifinifinifini
> finifinifinifinifinifinifinifinifinifinifinifini
>
>      Pr'haps I'll git around to postin' a new one soon.
> Till then, I hope this re-run entertains somebody.
>


It sure does.    :)
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Darcy Boese <pos...@newsfeed.niagara.com> ASCII art 21 Oct 2000 00:00 · permalink · report
It's almost Halloween, time to play dressup with our ASCII characters.
Here, I'll start..


  --------------------------------------------------------------------
             _____               ///\\
            /==*==\             // ( \\
            | O O |             | o o |
            |  ^  |             C  )  D
            |\\m//|             | \_/ |
           ///\_/\\\             \___/
            __| |__            ___| |___
           /       \          /   `-'   \
          / /\_|_/\ \        |   ,-=-.   |
         / /\//^\\/\ \      /| | \`-,/ | |\
        / /  ) V (  \ \     || |  \-/  | ||
        \_\ /\___/\ /_/     || |       | ||
          ((\* * */))       || |       | ||
          /  \*_*/||\       ||_|-------|_||
          |   / \ \/|       |(((\_____/)))|
          |  /   \  |       |   | | | |   |
         /-./     \,-\      |   | | | |   |
         |  |     |  |      |___|-|_|-|___|
         | /       \ |          | | | |prs
        / /         \ \        /  | |  \
       (_/|         |\_)      (__/   \__)
  --------------------------------------------------------------------
             _____            ,---.
            / _ _ \          / _ _ \
     /||    |(OXO)|          |(oXo)|
    / ||    |/ ^ \|          (     )
   /  ||    |\\m//|          | zzz |
   |  ||   ///\_/\\\          \___/
   |  \\    __| |__         ___===___
   /  \ \  /       \       /   ,'    \
  /    \ \/ /\ v /\ \     |  ,'` '.'  |
        \  /\_\|/_/\ \    |,'   `   | |
         \/  )   (  \ \  ,' |       | |
            /     \ /_/,' | |   .   | |
           /\     /))-'   | |       | |
          /  `._,'  \     | |-.___,-| |
          |`-_/ \_-'|     (( \ \_/ / ))
          |  /   \  |        |'| |`|
         /  /     \  \       |`| |'|
         |  |     |  |       |'| |`|
         | /       \ |       |`| |'|prs
        / /|       |\ \     /  | |  \
       (_/ |       | \_)   (///   \\\)
  --------------------------------------------------------------------

Krogg <kro...@gtcom.net> ASCII art 21 Oct 2000 00:00 · permalink · report
Darcy Boese wrote:
> 
> It's almost Halloween, time to play dressup with our ASCII characters.
> Here, I'll start..
> 
>   --------------------------------------------------------------------
>              _____               ///\\
>             /==*==\             // ( \\
>             | O O |             | o o |
>             |  ^  |             C  )  D
>             |\\m//|             | \_/ |
>            ///\_/\\\             \___/
>             __| |__            ___| |___
>            /       \          /   `-'   \
>           / /\_|_/\ \        |   ,-=-.   |
>          / /\//^\\/\ \      /| | \`-,/ | |\
>         / /  ) V (  \ \     || |  \-/  | ||
>         \_\ /\___/\ /_/     || |       | ||
>           ((\* * */))       || |       | ||
>           /  \*_*/||\       ||_|-------|_||
>           |   / \ \/|       |(((\_____/)))|
>           |  /   \  |       |   | | | |   |
>          /-./     \,-\      |   | | | |   |
>          |  |     |  |      |___|-|_|-|___|
>          | /       \ |          | | | |prs
>         / /         \ \        /  | |  \
>        (_/|         |\_)      (__/   \__)
>   --------------------------------------------------------------------
>              _____            ,---.
>             / _ _ \          / _ _ \
>      /||    |(OXO)|          |(oXo)|
>     / ||    |/ ^ \|          (     )
>    /  ||    |\\m//|          | zzz |
>    |  ||   ///\_/\\\          \___/
>    |  \\    __| |__         ___===___
>    /  \ \  /       \       /   ,'    \
>   /    \ \/ /\ v /\ \     |  ,'` '.'  |
>         \  /\_\|/_/\ \    |,'   `   | |
>          \/  )   (  \ \  ,' |       | |
>             /     \ /_/,' | |   .   | |
>            /\     /))-'   | |       | |
>           /  `._,'  \     | |-.___,-| |
>           |`-_/ \_-'|     (( \ \_/ / ))
>           |  /   \  |        |'| |`|
>          /  /     \  \       |`| |'|
>          |  |     |  |       |'| |`|
>          | /       \ |       |`| |'|prs
>         / /|       |\ \     /  | |  \
>        (_/ |       | \_)   (///   \\\)
>   --------------------------------------------------------------------

Speaking of ascii dress-up....Here are some "costumes" that
i have drawn for Veronica...I still need to make one with
a big eskimo type outfit for the cold weather,but i will
get to it one day.......

    Bikini VK             Sexy VK            cheerleader VK          Town VK                 Jungle VK

     .|||||.              .|||||.                .|||||.             .|||||.                  .|||||.
    |||||||||            |||||||||              |||||||||           |||||||||        /|      |||||||||      |\
   || .   . ||          || .   . ||            || .   . ||         || .   . ||      //|     || .   . ||     |\\
   ||   ^   ||          ||   ^   ||            ||   ^   ||         ||   ^   ||     || |     ||== ^ ==||     | ||
  |||\  =  /|||        |||\  =  /|||          |||\  =  /|||       |||\  =  /|||    || |    |||\  =  /|||    | ||
  |||||`-'|||||        |||||`-'|||||          |||||`-'|||||       |||||`-'|||||    \\ )    |||||`-'|||||    ( //
  |.--'   `--.|        |.--'   `--.|          |.-'\   /`-.|       |,-"\   /"-.|     II     |.-d'   `b-.|     II
  /\\__   _ //\        /`:.     .:'\          /    \_/    \       /    `-'    \     ||     / _H_   _H_ \     ||
 / (   )=(   ) \      / ::::=-=:::; \        / (   ) (   ) \     / (   ) (   ) \    ||    / (   )=(   ) \    ||
(  /|""   ""|\  )    (  /|""   ""|\  )      (  /|       |\  )   (  /|       |\  )   ||  .'  ////   \\\\  `.  ||
 \ \{`. . ,'}/ /      \ \:.  .  .;/ /        \ \:_______;/ /     \ \[=={#}==]/ /    ||,'  ,',|_  .  _|.`.  `.||
  )/ `.`-',' \(        )/ `:._.:' \(          ),'= = = =`.(     ,'//.###|###///     Bd ,-' ////:---;\\\\ `-. bB
  |    \_/    |        |   `::;'   |          /  / | | \  \    /"""""\##H#####      B|'    |    \_/    |    `|B
   \    |    /          \====|====/          /  /  | |  \  \   \_____/##I####'      ||      \    |    /      ||
    \   |   /            \:::|:::/           `-'"|-'"`-|"`-'        `###I###'       ||       \   |   /       ||
     ( )|( )              (:)|(:)                ( )|( )             `##H##'        ||        ( )|( )        ||
     /  |  \              /::|::\                /  |  \             ,##I##.        ||        /  |  \        ||
    |   |   |            |:::|:::|              |___|___|            ###I###        []       |   |   |       []
     \  |  /              \::|::/                \::|::/             "##I##"        []        \  |  /        []
      ) | (VK/Krogg        ):|:(VK/Krogg          )_|_(VK/Krogg       )#I#(VK/Krogg []         ) | (VK/Krogg []
     mmo^omm              mmo^omm                (__I__)             (__I__)        ()        mmo^omm        ()

      Rave VK                  Prom VK               Sailor VK
                                                        
      .|||||.                  .:::::.                0|||||0.
     |||||||||               .::|||||:.             .|||`v'||||.
    || .   . ||              :: .   . ;             ||'.   .`|||.
    ||   ^   ||              ::   ^   ;            .||   ^   ||`||.
   |||\  =  /|||             ::\  =  /;           .|||\  =  /|||`||.
   |||||`-'|||||             ::::`-'|;'          .||||||`-'||||| `||.
   |o--'   `--o|             _::::. `-._        .|||.-\\   //-.|  `||
   /Hb._   _.dH\            /\\`:::   //\      .||'/ / \\_// \ \   ||.
  / "HHb) (dHH" \          / ("":::.""") \     ||'/\(  )\:/(  )/\  `||
 (  /|HHHHHHH|\  )        (  /Yi::'|iiP\  )    ||(  /\   "   /\  ) .||
  \ \b._ . _.d/ /          \ \/::'A (@@) /    .|| \ \I`. . ,'I/ /  ||'  
   )dHHHHHHHHHb(           /)/:: /I\(@@)(\    ||'  )/ `-`-'-' \(  .||  
   |HHHHHHHHHHH|          / J : J I F F\' \   ||.  / // || |\\\\ .||'
    YHHHHHHHHHF          J  F I I I | IVJ  F  `||. `-'`-'`-'`-'' ||'
     \   |   /           F J  F F I J J KF J   `||.  \   |   /   `||
      ( )|( )           J  F J J  I  F F\J  F   `||   ( )|( )     ||.
      dHH|HHb           F J  I |  I  I IK F J    ||   /  |  \     `||.
      HHH|HHH          J  F  F F  I  J J RJ  F  .||  |___|___|     `||
      qHH|HHF          F J  J J   I   F F OF J  ||'   \::|::/       ||
       )H|H(VK/Krogg  J  F  I I   I   I I  G  F `'     )_|_(VK/Krogg`'
      (HH^HH)         F.J.._F_F_  I  _F_J_..G.J       (__I__)

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Fulgore <ful...@mindspring.com> ASCII art 21 Oct 2000 00:00 · permalink · report

                   ____
                  (  _.>
                 /_/=0(
                  \_ -/    -- Oh, come on, you knew 
_                 .'-'.       someone was going to do it!
 \                |. .|    ___
  \               || ||   |  _|=-
   \_\_______/__\_|| |/_/__||_
    \ /   Spirit   '_' \ ^ /  \ |
   >   <   of ____ (_)  |_|    |>
____/_\________________/___\__/ |
                  |  /
                  |  |
                  |__|_
                  '.___\ ful


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Arjen Pilon <aep...@studenten.net> ASCII art 22 Oct 2000 00:00 · permalink · report
Darcy Boese <pos...@newsfeed.niagara.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
newscache$67ms2g$k3l$1...@newsfeed.niagara.com...
> It's almost Halloween, time to play dressup with our ASCII characters.
> Here, I'll start..
<snip disturbing halloween(??) costumes ;)>

No Halloween (or Helloween for that matter) without a pumpkin head (and a
vampire).

           _#_
     .-;-''   `.-.             """""
    , ,|##.  .##| `\         _,|^  ^|._
    | | /\/\/\/\  '|      ,-' `\"\/"/' `-.
    `._//\/\/\/\\ ,/     ,`-._  |VV|  _,-'.
        `-\___/--'ap    /     \_`--'_/     \
                        |       `\/'       |
                        |                  |ap

               Arjen

Darcy Boese <pos...@newsfeed.niagara.com> ASCII art 22 Oct 2000 02:10 · permalink · report
Arjen Pilon <aep...@studenten.net> wrote:

> <snip disturbing halloween(??) costumes ;)>

Oh now, Superman and Wonder Woman are hardly "disturbing"..  Infringing
perhaps, but not disturbing...

  --------------------------------------------------------------------
       _____          ///\\
      /\_+_/\        /-(.)-\
     ///O O\\\       | o o |
     ||  ^ .||       C  )  D
      /\\m//\        | \_/ |
        \_/           \___/
      __|_|__       ___| |___
     /    __ \     /  (`-')  \
    / /   --\ \   |   |\ /|   |
   /\/\  /  /\/\  | | | | | | |
  / / /     \ \ \ | | | | | | |
  \_\|_______|/_/ | | | A | | |
    ((       ))   | | |   | | |
     |       |    |_| |___| |_|_
      \     /     ((  | Y || )) |
      |     |      |  | | ||____|
      |_____|      |  | | |  |
       | | |       |__| | |__|
       |_|_|         |__|__|prs
      /^/ \^\        /qp|qp\
     (_/   \_)      (__/ \__)
  --------------------------------------------------------------------

Ool <ulr...@t-online.de> ASCII art 22 Oct 2000 22:31 · permalink · report
Nice!  (-:(|


"Fulgore" <ful...@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:39F...@mindspring.com...

>                    ____
>                   (  _.>      Of course the question is
>                  /_/=0(   is that a boring machine or am I
>                   \_ -/       just happy to see somone?
> _                 .'-'.        |
>  \                |. .|    ___ V
>   \               || ||   |  _|=-
>    \_\_______/__\_|| |/_/__||_
>     \ /   Spirit   '_' \ ^ /  \ |
>    >   <   of ____ (_)  |_|    |>
> ____/_\________________/___\__/ |
>                   |  /
>                   |  |
>                   |__|_
>                   '.___\ ful


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Dave Bird <dav...@xemu.demon.co.uk> ASCII art 23 Oct 2000 00:32 · permalink · report
In article<8svps9$ggn$06$1...@news.t-online.com>, Ool
<ulr...@t-online.de> writes:
>>
>>                Yes I know you said    where to stick that focker 
>>                    ____  but I didn't think you meant it literally
>>                   (  _.>  / 
>>                  /_/=0(  /   
>>                   \_ -/      
>> _                 .'-'.       
>>  \                |. .| 
>>   \               || || 
>>    \_\_______/__\_|| |/
>>     \ /   Spirit  \'_'| 
>>    >   <   of ____ (_)|  
>> ____/_\___________/   |
>>                   |  /
>>                   |  |
>>                   |__|_
>>                   '.___\ ful

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Darcy Boese <pos...@newsfeed.niagara.com> ASCII art 23 Oct 2000 00:47 · permalink · report
  --------------------------------------------------------------------
      _,---._         ,--||
     | \___/ |       |===|/|
      \/O O\/       ///o o\\\
      |  ^ .|       |C= ) =D|
      |\\m//|       || \_/ ||
     ///\_/\\\      ||\___/||
      __|_|__       ||_| |_||
     / |,-'/ \     /         \
    / / \,/*\ \   |   \   /   |
   / /\_ X _/\ \  | | \   / | |
  / /  )___(  \ \ | | \   / | |
  \_\==\[_]_\ /_/ | |_______| |
    ((\|     ))   | |       | |
     |||     |    | |  \ //\| |
     |_______|    ((|   ||==/))==
       \-|-/       //   | \/\\
       |_|_|       //   |   \\
       | | |       //   |   \\
       | | |       //___|___\\prs
      / /|\ \       /  | |  \
     |/'   `\|     (__/   \__)
  --------------------------------------------------------------------
       _____          ,---.
      /-----\        / _ _ \
      |/O O\|        |(_X_)|
      |-----|        |     |
       \---/         |     |
        \-/          |     |
      __| |__       /       \
     /-------\     /         \
    |---------|   |           |
    ||-==-==-||   |           |
    ||)-----(||   |           |
    ||-------||   |           |
    ||-------||   |           |
    ((-------))   |           |
      \--|--/     ((         ))
       \-|-/       |         |
       |-|-|       |         |
       |-|-|       |         |
       |-|-|       |         |prs
      /-/ \-\      |_________|
     (-/   \-)     (__/   \__)
  --------------------------------------------------------------------

Darcy Boese <pos...@newsfeed.niagara.com> ASCII art 26 Oct 2000 14:01 · permalink · report
I guess there aren't all that many ascii artists who feel like playing
dressup after all..

This is probably my last one then..

  --------------------------------------------------------------------
       ,-^-.         |\---. 
      / ,-. \        \\___//
     | /O O\ |       | o o |
     ||  ^ .||       C  )  D
    ,'/\\m//\`.      | \_/ |
    |/  \_/  \|       \___/
      __|_|__       ___| |___
     / |/ \| \     / ||   || \
    / /     \ \   |  ||   ||  |
   / /\__,__/\ \  |_|||   |||_|
  / /  )   (  \ \ | |||   ||| |
  \_\ /_____\ /_/ | |||___||| |
    ((       ))   | |       | |
    /|       |\   | |  \ /  | |
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Spunk1111 <spu...@aol.comQQ> ASCII art 27 Oct 2000 05:02 · permalink · report
><newscache$2ri13g$gik$1...@newsfeed.niagara.com>

>I guess there aren't all that many ascii artists who feel like playing
>dressup after all..


hmmm... 
my 2000 trick-or-treaters:

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more Halloween ASCII art at my 
website.. look under holidays.. or use
the search feature...

-joan
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Darcy Boese <pos...@newsfeed.niagara.com> ASCII art 27 Oct 2000 22:34 · permalink · report
Spunk1111 <spu...@aol.comqq> wrote:

>>I guess there aren't all that many ascii artists who feel like playing
>>dressup after all..

> hmmm... 
> my 2000 trick-or-treaters:

I'm glad that somebody else is finally getting into the spirit (heh) of
things..  and here's my newest pair, some fencers:

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Darcy Boese wrote:
> Spunk1111 wrote:
> 
> >>I guess there aren't all that many ascii artists who feel like playing
> >>dressup after all..
> 
> > hmmm...
> > my 2000 trick-or-treaters:
> 
> I'm glad that somebody else is finally getting into the spirit (heh) of
> things..  and here's my newest pair, some fencers:
> 

Any trick-or-treaters at my door get the door in their face!


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In article <39F...@hotmail.com>, Veronica Karlsson
<asc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Darcy Boese wrote:
> > Spunk1111 wrote:
> >
> > >>I guess there aren't all that many ascii artists who feel like playing
> > >>dressup after all..
> >
> > > hmmm...
> > > my 2000 trick-or-treaters:
> >
> > I'm glad that somebody else is finally getting into the spirit (heh) of
> > things..  and here's my newest pair, some fencers:
> >
> 
> Any trick-or-treaters at my door get the door in their face!

Ooooh!!! Veronica! You're brave to risk having soaped windows (or worse
tricks....)

obascii bar of soap:
      
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    ! !  |  V     |\ | !
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llizard wrote:
> Veronica Karlsson wrote:
> > Darcy Boese wrote:
> > > Spunk1111 wrote:
> > >
> > > >>I guess there aren't all that many ascii artists who feel like playing
> > > >>dressup after all..
> > >
> > > > hmmm...
> > > > my 2000 trick-or-treaters:
> > >
> > > I'm glad that somebody else is finally getting into the spirit (heh) of
> > > things..  and here's my newest pair, some fencers:
> >
> > Any trick-or-treaters at my door get the door in their face!
> 
> Ooooh!!! Veronica! You're brave to risk having soaped windows (or worse
> tricks....)

And you think blackmail is acceptable behaviour? Halloween is NOT a
Swedish tradition, no matter how much certain money-hungry shop owners
want to make us think it is. The kids love it, of course - suddenly
Easter comes twice a year! I bet I'm not the only one who tell those
little criminals how rude they are and/or slam the door in their faces.


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Spunk1111 <spu...@aol.comQQ> ASCII art 30 Oct 2000 13:47 · permalink · report
>Message-id: <39F...@hotmail.com>
>Any trick-or-treaters at my door get the door in their face!

Gee VK, I thought you liked kids.. ;)

>Halloween is NOT a
>Swedish tradition, no matter how much certain money-hungry
>shop owners want to make us think it is.

Technically, Halloween is not an American tradition either.
I believe it goes back to the ancient Celts.. that's closer
to Sweden than the US.    ;P

> The kids love it, of course - suddenly
>Easter comes twice a year!

Do kids wear scary costumes and go door-to-door on Easter
in Sweden?   <g>  I'm sure you meant the candy part... but
do they go-door-to-door?  My kids hunt for easter baskets
in the house -- and there is some candy in the baskets...
not as much as what they might haul in on Halloween though.

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In any case, be assured that my kids won't show up at your
door.

-joan
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Joan - The queen of ascii wrote :

> >Halloween is NOT a
> >Swedish tradition, no matter how much certain money-hungry
> >shop owners want to make us think it is.
>
> Technically, Halloween is not an American tradition either.
> I believe it goes back to the ancient Celts.. that's closer
> to Sweden than the US.    ;P
>
> > The kids love it, of course - suddenly
> >Easter comes twice a year!
>
> Do kids wear scary costumes and go door-to-door on Easter
> in Sweden?   <g>  I'm sure you meant the candy part... but
> do they go-door-to-door?

I think i can answer that one.

AFAIK they don't .. nor do they do so in any of the other european countries (they definatly don't
here)
I think it would be a better question if it was the other way around.

Which countries celebrate Halloween ?

I'm guessing all of the countries that celebrate christmas on the 25th december ( Most countries i
know celebrate the 24th ) celebrate Halloween .. but thats just a guess.

- CeeJay

In article <39F...@hotmail.com>, Veronica Karlsson
<asc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> llizard wrote:
> > Veronica Karlsson wrote:
[snip]
> > > Any trick-or-treaters at my door get the door in their face!
> >
> > Ooooh!!! Veronica! You're brave to risk having soaped windows (or worse
> > tricks....)
> 
> And you think blackmail is acceptable behaviour? Halloween is NOT a
> Swedish tradition
[snip]

Here in North America where it is a tradition, I now have a bowl of
cheap candies to hand out tonight to those "little criminals"

*+&*###*)#+&
 \        /
  \______/

and a bowl of change for the "blackmailers" who are carrying Unicef
boxes

\o9o89/
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  '() ()'         _/>  \  jack-o'lantern for front of house
  ' vvv '           >     to indicate to the criminals that
  _'---'_           >     they can easily extort the cheap
 |_______|         /|^^   candy from us
  |     |  ejm     | \


(I particular like the tiniest extortionists who are dressed as little
spiders or pumpkins and come up the walk with their eyes wide and
wondrous that strangers are giving them candy AND their parents lurking
in the background are ALLOWING it! 

The best thing in our neighbourhood is the fellow who puts a speaker
into his jack-o'lantern and hides behind the door with a microphone and
talks to the costumed delinquents as they come up the steps. The
littlest ones have the most earnest conversations with the pumpkin head)
...

 
                  \_,^%---    
                  _/>  \  depiction of table for front of house
                    >     to indicate to the criminals that
  _______           >     there is no more cheap candy to extort
 |_______|         /|^^   from us and they are too late...
  |     |  ejm     | \

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 ||'() ()'||         />  \ ha   
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Veronica Karlsson wrote:
>I bet I'm not the only one who tell those little criminals how rude they are and/or slam the door
in their faces.

This reminds me of this cartoon .. Go see it .. it's a laugh !

http://www.funstun.com/nocandy.jpg

*hehehheheeeee ...*

</CJ>

Spunk1111 wrote:
> Veronica Karlsson wrote:
> >Any trick-or-treaters at my door get the door in their face!
> 
> Gee VK, I thought you liked kids.. ;)

Yes, kids are OK. Teaching kids that blackmail is a fun game is not OK,
IMO.

> >Halloween is NOT a
> >Swedish tradition, no matter how much certain money-hungry
> >shop owners want to make us think it is.
> 
> Technically, Halloween is not an American tradition either.
> I believe it goes back to the ancient Celts.. that's closer
> to Sweden than the US.    ;P

Well, until about two or three years ago halloween was something you
only read about in English lessons, along with "the American
government", "the Brittish government", "the tea tradition", "in what
countries do people speak English?" and similar, boring topics. What
happened a couple of years ago was that one started to see tables with
"ghost" stuff in some shops. Then it started to appear in advertising.
Then, last year, there were trick-or-treaters knocking on my door.

> > The kids love it, of course - suddenly
> >Easter comes twice a year!
> 
> Do kids wear scary costumes and go door-to-door on Easter
> in Sweden?   <g> 

Yes.

[more specifically, they dress up as "Easter witches":

http://w1.522.telia.com/~u52207882/rpask99.JPG
http://home.swipnet.se/holmers/lizasofi.jpg
http://w1.863.telia.com/~u86302829/bilder/karring-ani.gif
http://www.tordata.se/mallbacken/images/pask.gif
http://www.torget.se/shopping/panduro/LEVEL1/LEVEL2/PAND_PASK/limage/712477b.jpg
http://home.swipnet.se/~w-55604/bilder/eastern_niklas.jpg
http://home.swipnet.se/harmozo/illus/pask_small.jpg
http://www.cube.icestorm.net/ingie/ea3.jpg
http://www.cube.icestorm.net/ingie/ea2.jpg
http://www.cube.icestorm.net/ingie/blakulla.html
http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-55148/bilder/stina.jpg
http://www.ypi.gu.se/perso/homebp/imgs/eastelli.JPG
http://home.swipnet.se/gia/img4.gif
http://home3.swipnet.se/~w-37017/pix/karring.jpg
http://home.swipnet.se/~w-39336/sk4wv/tiv.jpg

OK, so maybe most of them are more cute than "scary", but that doesn't
make it any less *fun*!]

> I'm sure you meant the candy part...

Yes. Plenty of candy. Often more than a kid can carry!

> but do they go-door-to-door? 

Yes.

[More specifically, the witches knock on the door, the door opens, the
witches give the person behind the door an "Easter letter" and say
"Happy Easter!". Then they get candy, or money, or sometimes (yuck!)
fruit ("yuck!" because it's too bloody heavy! Of course, *they* think
they're "helping" the kids by giving them "healthy" stuff, but all they
really do is make the kids' feet hurt! There's no way one kid can eat 40
oranges, 20 apples, 25 bananas, etc, etc, before it all goes bad!).

How is this different from halloween? Well, there is no blackmail
involved. The children give away "easter letters", which are spring
related pictures that they have drawn (drawing these "letters" is a
project that takes several weeks). In return they get candy. They give
away something and get something back. They tell you that spring is
coming. It's all positive and fun and there is no "Give Me, Or Else!"]

> My kids hunt for easter baskets
> in the house -- and there is some candy in the baskets...

This is a tradition I have never heard about. I think Swedish kids would
be VERY disappointed if this was all they were allowed to do at Easter!

> not as much as what they might haul in on Halloween though.

It's extremely unusual that somebody won't give the Easter witches
anything.

[I do, however, think that once a year is quite enough!]

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Christian 'CeeJay' Jensen wrote:
> Joan - The queen of ascii wrote :
> > Do kids wear scary costumes and go door-to-door on Easter
> > in Sweden?   <g>  I'm sure you meant the candy part... but
> > do they go-door-to-door?
> 
> I think i can answer that one.
> 
> AFAIK they don't .. nor do they do so in any of the other european
> countries (they definatly don't here)

Well, you're wrong. Kids in Sweden do get dressed up and go door-to-door
on Easter. Exactly which day varies between different parts of Sweden.
Some go on the Thursday and some on the Saturday.

> I think it would be a better question if it was the other way around.
> 
> Which countries celebrate Halloween ?
> 
> I'm guessing all of the countries that celebrate christmas on the
> 25th december ( Most countries i know celebrate the 24th ) celebrate
> Halloween .. but thats just a guess.

In Sweden Christmas Eve (the 24'th) is the Big Day, when people exchange
presents and eat huge smoragsbords etc.


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In article <S6T=OSd...@4ax.com>, Ville Jouppi
<vjo...@sci.fi> wrote:
> 
> On 30 Oct 2000 13:47:23 GMT, spu...@aol.comQQ (Spunk1111) wrote:

> >Technically, Halloween is not an American tradition either.
> >I believe it goes back to the ancient Celts..

> 
> I don't think the Celts went around trick or treating either?-)
> 

from "The Origins of Halloween"
http://www.northvermont12.com/halloween/origins.html
.............................................................
:                                                           :
: The fairies, however, were often considered hostile       :
[...]
: would sometimes trick humans into becoming lost in the    :
: fairy mounds, where they would be trapped forever.        :
[...]
: In addition to the fairies, many humans were abroad on    :
: this night, causing mischief                              :
[...]
: many of the people would imitate the fairies and go from  :
: house to house begging for treats. Failure to supply the  :
: treats would usually result in practical jokes being      :
: visited on the owner of the house. Since the fairies      :
: were abroad on this night, an offering of food or milk    :
: was frequently left for them on the steps of the house,   :
: so the homeowner could gain the blessings of the "good    :
: folk" for the coming year.                                :
[...]
: The folks who were abroad in the night imitating the      :
: fairies would sometimes carry turnips carved to represent :
: faces.                                                    :
[...]
: When the potato crop in Ireland failed, many of the Irish :
: people, modern day descendents of the Celts, immigrated   :
: to America, bringing with them their folk practices,      :
: which are the remnants of the Celtic festival observances.:
:...........................................................:



from "Origins of Hallowe'en"
http://alison-m.tripod.com/LadyAlisonHalloweenWebsite/id3.html
...................................................
:                                                 :
: In ancient times the apple was thought of as a  :
: holy or magical fruit.                          :
[...]
: The Celt believed in a paradise where apple     :
: trees carried fragrant blossom and ripe fruit   :
: at one and same time.                           :
:.................................................:

When we were little, we went from door to door calling out "Hallowe'en
Apples!" Nobody in our neighbourhood said "Trick or Treat".

obascii of Hallowe'en Apples

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    [_____]  __>,^ instead of candy, we were VERY disappointed
  ejm|   |  //| |  unless they were caramel apples....

On 30 Oct 2000 13:47:23 GMT, spu...@aol.comQQ (Spunk1111) wrote:

>>Message-id: <39F...@hotmail.com>
>>Halloween is NOT a
>>Swedish tradition, no matter how much certain money-hungry
>>shop owners want to make us think it is.
>
>Technically, Halloween is not an American tradition either.
>I believe it goes back to the ancient Celts.. that's closer
>to Sweden than the US.    ;P

I don't think the Celts went around trick or treating either?-)

We here in Finland also have some halloween parties etc, but they're all
strictly heritage from the English speaking world.

>> The kids love it, of course - suddenly
>>Easter comes twice a year!

Hehe.. Free sweets.. Who wouldn't?-)

>Do kids wear scary costumes and go door-to-door on Easter
>in Sweden?   <g>  I'm sure you meant the candy part... but
>do they go-door-to-door?

They do that here in Finland, dressed up as witches, carrying little pots and
pans.. They give a decorated willow branch (with the little furry "kittens" on
them) in exchange for the sweets.

The ritual is also accompanied with a silly poem that's recited as the willow
branch is waved about. I tried to translate it but as it doesn't make too much
sense in Finnish IMHO, I thought it would make half as much in English.. :-D
Some other Finn can try if they really want to.. Virvon varvon..

>My kids hunt for easter baskets
>in the house -- and there is some candy in the baskets...
>not as much as what they might haul in on Halloween though.

When I lived in England the kids hunted for easter eggs with the aid of clues
the "easter bunny" (aka mum or dad :-) had left them.. I've seen some of those
big chocolate eggs with toys inside here in Finland too, but the custom hasn't
caught on. Probably never will, the witch thing is such an old tradition, and
the whole easter believing in Finland is related to witches.

ObAscii:

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A broom for a witch! :-)

On Wed, 01 Nov 2000 10:41:28 +0100, Veronica Karlsson <asc...@hotmail.com>
provoked the following text:

>> > Do kids wear scary costumes and go door-to-door on Easter
>> > in Sweden?   <g>  I'm sure you meant the candy part... but
>> > do they go-door-to-door?
>> I think i can answer that one.
>> AFAIK they don't .. nor do they do so in any of the other european
>> countries (they definatly don't here)
>Well, you're wrong. Kids in Sweden do get dressed up and go door-to-door
>on Easter. Exactly which day varies between different parts of Sweden.
>Some go on the Thursday and some on the Saturday.

In Holland kids do that on the 11th of November (Saint Martin's day), they dress
up and go doo to door carrying lanterns and singing songs to collect candy.

>> I think it would be a better question if it was the other way around.
>> Which countries celebrate Halloween ?
>> I'm guessing all of the countries that celebrate christmas on the
>> 25th december ( Most countries i know celebrate the 24th ) celebrate
>> Halloween .. but thats just a guess.
>In Sweden Christmas Eve (the 24'th) is the Big Day, when people exchange
>presents and eat huge smoragsbords etc.

In Holland we do celebrate Christmas on the 25th of December, but All Hallows
Eve is not one of the days we celebrate. Not in the way people in the US
celebrate it anyway.
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Uh, yeah ... I meant to do that!

Peter Punk <ppu...@damnthatspam.chello.nl> schreef in berichtnieuws
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> On Wed, 01 Nov 2000 10:41:28 +0100, Veronica Karlsson
<asc...@hotmail.com>
>
> In Holland kids do that on the 11th of November (Saint Martin's day), they
dress
> up and go doo to door carrying lanterns and singing songs to collect
candy.

It depends on what part of the country you're talking about, where I grew
up, in Gelderland (mid-east of our country), we didn't do anything about it,
farther to the south some people have even never heard of it. In the
northern part (especially Groningen AFAIK) it is far more customary, but in
my days (I always celebrated it with relatives in Groningen) we didn't dress
up. BTW if you have Micro$oft Encarta you can hear part of a St. Martin's
song in the "sights and sounds" section of the Netherlands (not that you
care ;).

Oh, and one more thing, I think everyone knows that Halloween originated
from the days that witches would knock on doors to eat people's children,
but instead people started giving them gingerbread children. And that's the
story of caramel cod....*


Arjen


*If you don't get the point now you probably never will

SonOfAGun <pri...@netzero.net> ASCII art 1 Nov 2000 22:07 · permalink · report
> Oh, and one more thing, I think everyone knows that Halloween originated
> from the days that witches would knock on doors to eat people's children,
> but instead people started giving them gingerbread children. And that's
the
> story of caramel cod....*

the fact that I'm subscribed to 5 seperate newsgroups, and that all of them
have constant referrences to the Simpsons just proves how damn successful
that show is, either that, or just that nerds and geeks tend to love that
show (the comic book guy and Prof. Frink rule imo)

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Grushenka <se...@the.end.of.my.post> ASCII art 2 Nov 2000 05:18 · permalink · report
Veronica Karlsson <asc...@hotmail.com> a ecrit dans son message:

@--Well, until about two or three years ago halloween was something you
@--only read about in English lessons, along with "the American
@--government", "the Brittish government", "the tea tradition", "in what
@--countries do people speak English?" and similar, boring topics. What
@--happened a couple of years ago was that one started to see tables with
@--"ghost" stuff in some shops. Then it started to appear in advertising.
@--Then, last year, there were trick-or-treaters knocking on my door.

I was brought up in a society where Halloween was unknown to and unheard of for most of us.  That's why all these few years since we have moved to here in North
America, we have simply ignored all the trick-or-treaters knocking on our door.  This year, however, my mom did prepare a whole box of lollipops ---and
ironically, only a few people came for their treats.  It is because recently there have been a few attempts (despite failure) of kidnapping around the city, so
parents simply brought their kids to the shopping malls to get candies from the shops.  Most of those who did come and knock on our door, though, were teens (or
even late teens).  Some did not even say 'Happy Halloween' to you, but only uttered a barely audible 'Hi!' while expecting you to automatically surrender your
candies into their candy bags.  So it didn't take long before even my mom (who is extremely fond of kids as long as they do not look & act like such 'old'
little girl as Jon Benet Ramsey) got tired of treating these candy-minded, tooth-decaying trick-or-treaters.


@--How is this different from halloween? Well, there is no blackmail
@--involved. The children give away "easter letters", which are spring
@--related pictures that they have drawn (drawing these "letters" is a
@--project that takes several weeks). In return they get candy. They give
@--away something and get something back. They tell you that spring is
@--coming. It's all positive and fun and there is no "Give Me, Or Else!"]

I am completely with you here Veronica ---this whole trick-or-treat business sounds so much like blackmail! If not blackmail, it's at least greed!
    
                                                   
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Spunk1111 <spu...@aol.comQQ> ASCII art 2 Nov 2000 14:30 · permalink · report
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>It's extremely unusual that somebody won't give the Easter witches
>anything.
>
>[I do, however, think that once a year is quite enough!]

VK
I had never heard of Easter witches before.  And I can now understand
your reluctance at accepting an Americanized Halloween tradition in
your country --  kids already travel door-to-door for treats.
I'd probably feel the same way if Santa Claus decided to make
a second appearance in a year.

BTW, at my house, if any kids want a treat at Halloween, they have
to first perform a "trick" of some kind.  ie: sing a song, perform a
special skill, etc. We also attend church services the day after
Halloween to celebrate All Saints' Day.  It isn't a completely greedy,
heathenistic time of the year.  But sadfully, I cannot speak for
everyone.

It's very interesting reading about holiday customs -- and how
different they are.  This is truly an International newsgroup!
(even though we do write in English most of the time)  ;)
And before someone flies off the handle and suggests that we
take this conversation to alt.holidays or whatever, let me say
that this DOES relate to our newsgroup.

I've made lots of ASCII art pictures -- but not one Easter Witch.
I hadn't heard of them.  I'll bet that there are other such holiday
items too.  I suppose I might've been able to learn
about them if I had done some research on how countries 
celebrate holidays.  I could probably do some research now --
but it might be kindof difficult not knowing what I'm looking for.
(for example, I wouldn't look for St. Martin's Day either)
Certainly, our school systems don't dwell on foreign customs.

I think that a mention of such things on this newsgroup might
elicit additional ASCII art pictures. 

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Spunk1111 wrote:
> I had never heard of Easter witches before.  And I can now understand
> your reluctance at accepting an Americanized Halloween tradition in
> your country --  kids already travel door-to-door for treats.
> I'd probably feel the same way if Santa Claus decided to make
> a second appearance in a year.

That's a very good analogy. Exactly like that. American shop owners
might find the idea of Christmas twice a year interesting, and of course
the kids would love it. Maybe you should import the Swedish Easter
witches...?

[no, I'm not entirely serious]

> It's very interesting reading about holiday customs -- and how
> different they are.  This is truly an International newsgroup!

Yes. I guess that was the real point behind my first comment. Somebody
was complaining that people weren't showing any interest in the subject
and my reaction was to lash out. This has more to do with the way
"halloween" is "celebrated" in Sweden (a 100% commercial thing!) and has
nothing to do with how *halloween* is celbrated in any other country.
IOW, just because *you* find holiday X very fascinating there's no
reason why everybody else, especially in an international place like
this, should be equally enthusiastic.

> (even though we do write in English most of the time)  ;)

And? Surely the "international" bit has more to do with what countries
people live in (and what countries/religions their ancestors belonged
to) than with what language is used for communication?

> I've made lots of ASCII art pictures -- but not one Easter Witch.

And you are always looking for new things to draw, right? How long would
it take you to work your way through a dictionary?   ;-)

> I hadn't heard of them.  I'll bet that there are other such holiday
> items too.  I suppose I might've been able to learn
> about them if I had done some research on how countries
> celebrate holidays.  I could probably do some research now --
> but it might be kindof difficult not knowing what I'm looking for.
> (for example, I wouldn't look for St. Martin's Day either)
> Certainly, our school systems don't dwell on foreign customs.

But the web does:

http://www.sverigeturism.se/smorgasbord/smorgasbord/culture/lifestyle/festivals.html

> I think that a mention of such things on this newsgroup might
> elicit additional ASCII art pictures.

Definitely! I have already posted some Lucia pictures in the past and I
have seen some pictures here related to some Dutch (?) holiday, and
jewish holidays, and "valentines day", and other days that are not
celebrated in Sweden ... Most of it Good Stuff!   :-)


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On Wed, 01 Nov 2000 10:25:25 -0800, Ville Jouppi <vjo...@sci.fi> wrote:

>branch is waved about. I tried to translate it but as it doesn't make too much
>sense in Finnish IMHO, I thought it would make half as much in English.. :-D
>Some other Finn can try if they really want to.. Virvon varvon..

I think the idea of the poem is something like "I wave these willow
twigs to bring you health for the rest of the year. Here's a twig,
please give me a prize" 

Obascii, a willow catkin:

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Spunk1111 <spu...@aol.comQQ> ASCII art 2 Nov 2000 22:04 · permalink · report
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>Maybe you should import the Swedish Easter
>witches...?

What an idea... but I'm afraid they might get lost
amidst all the Easter bunnies, chicks, ducklings,
eggs, baskets, egg hunts, and the religious aspects
of the holiday.  But I promise that I'll make an ASCII
Easter witch this spring!  (If I forget, just remind me!)

>> (even though we do write in English most of the time)  ;)
>And? Surely the "international" bit has more to do with what countries
>people live in (and what countries/religions their ancestors belonged
>to) than with what language is used for communication?

Absolutely... I only made that comment because it is very
easy for short-sighted people to assume that since we use English
in this newsgroup, we all have the same customs, traditions, and
ideals.

>How long would
>it take you to work your way through a dictionary?   ;-)

It depends... abridged or unabridged?  :P

>http://www.sverigeturism.se/smorgasbord/smorgasbord/culture/lifestyle/fes
tivals.html

Nice link.  I printed out the Swedish recipes.  I think I'll give the
meatballs a try.  :)

() () () ()

>> I think that a mention of such things on this newsgroup might
>> elicit additional ASCII art pictures.
>
>Definitely! I have already posted some Lucia pictures in the past and I
>have seen some pictures here related to some Dutch (?) holiday, and
>jewish holidays, and "valentines day", and other days that are not
>celebrated in Sweden ... Most of it Good Stuff!   :-)

Hopefully we can have a 'heads-up' on some of these holidays and
traditions before the day has arrived.

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On Wed, 1 Nov 2000 22:55:42 +0100, "Arjen Pilon" <aep...@studenten.net>
provoked the following text:

>> In Holland kids do that on the 11th of November (Saint Martin's day), they
>> dress up and go doo to door carrying lanterns and singing songs to collect
>> candy.
>It depends on what part of the country you're talking about, where I grew
>up, in Gelderland (mid-east of our country), we didn't do anything about it,
>farther to the south some people have even never heard of it. In the
>northern part (especially Groningen AFAIK) it is far more customary, but in
>my days (I always celebrated it with relatives in Groningen) we didn't dress
>up. 

I have lived in about every part of Holland and when i lived in Brabant, i did
celebrate Saint Martin. It's like a kid's general rehearsal for carnival (and on
11-11 prince carnival gets elected! :-))
But you're right, i have never celebrated or heared of a Saint Martin's day
celebration in Gelderland...

>BTW if you have Micro$oft Encarta you can hear part of a St. Martin's
>song in the "sights and sounds" section of the Netherlands (not that you
>care ;).

Well, perhaps some people do, you never know :-)

>Oh, and one more thing, I think everyone knows that Halloween originated
>from the days that witches 

Witches? I always thought they were Celtic druids.

>would knock on doors to eat people's children,
>but instead people started giving them gingerbread children. And that's the
>story of caramel cod....*
>
>*If you don't get the point now you probably never will

ObASCII:

Sorry, i screwed up the ObASCII, perhaps next time :-(
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On 02 Nov 2000 14:30:14 GMT, spu...@aol.comQQ (Spunk1111) provoked the
following text:

>>It's extremely unusual that somebody won't give the Easter witches
>>anything.
>>[I do, however, think that once a year is quite enough!]
>I had never heard of Easter witches before.  And I can now understand
>your reluctance at accepting an Americanized Halloween tradition in
>your country --  kids already travel door-to-door for treats.
>I'd probably feel the same way if Santa Claus decided to make
>a second appearance in a year.

You want a 2nd appearance of Santa Claus? Come to Holland! On December 6th we
celebrate Sinterklaas (pronounced roughly as "cinder class" :-)), the origin of
the person of Sinterklaas is the same (a Spanish bishop) and we exchange
prezzies. But traditionally on Christmas we have only a tree, food and a lot of
Christmas spirit :-))

However, Christmas in Holland gets more and more Americanised, Santa Claus takes
Sinterklaas' place, the exchanging of gifts gets postponed until Christmas and
some people even give presents at both Sinterklaas and Christmas!

By tradition, santa Claus, Halloween and Valentine's day have no place in
Holland. A few years ago i never would have thought i'd hear myself say this,
but i think that many (not every) country's traditions are something to be
kept... well... pure (by lack of another word). I find myself valuing the
traditional Dutch holidays more the older i get.
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A critic is a man who knows the way, but can't drive the car.

Joan, VK doesnt like the newly acquired halloween in her
country...SO????  A solution for her: dont participate here in aaa or in
your daily life, as with any belief, tradition, religion etc.  And
rather than educating HERSELF on this one tradition, celebrated in many
different ways around the world, she flames the tradition because her
country just recently incorporated this new 'thang' and she does not
like it.  And that is ok, but what is NOT ok, is her ignorance to others
here, with no knowledge base.  Its rude.  It would be interesting for
her to draw something indigenous to her homeland, a tradition, and see
the response here.  Judging from the various cultures represented here
and their manners, I am sure they would not FLAME her, but find it
interesting.

As posted in various threads about Halloween, people have different
customs, mine similar to yours, concentrating more on the "All Hallows"
tradition with religion as its base.  So now she tells YOU to go do some
research on other holiday traditions and appease the united nations,
YOU, Joan, go educate yourself of other cultures' traditions and YOU,
Joan, make some drawings of various holidays celebrated throughout the
world.  Obviously, VK declined to educate herself about Halloween and
various ways it is celebrated.  All she saw was ME ME ME, its in MY
COUNTRY, OH GAWD, WE ALREADY HAVE CANDY THIEVES ONCE A YEAR!  But, in
traditional VK'ism, she turns her lack of knowledge into a finger
pointing arena, stating you, joan, are the one lacking in knowledge,
instructing YOU to go get educated in different customs.

VK wishes to see international ascii drawings for her OWN amusement,
some of which she will like and others she will flame, i.e. halloween:

VK Quote: > >Definitely! I have already posted some Lucia pictures in
the past and I
> >have seen some pictures here related to some Dutch (?) holiday, and
> >jewish holidays, and "valentines day", and other days that are not
> >celebrated in Sweden ... Most of it Good Stuff!   :-)

Halloween is not included in her 'most of it good stuff' statement, so
therefore flamed the tradition without HER doing any research and
educating HERSELF of this one tradition celebrated, in different ways in
various parts of the world.  But, jeez, there is good ascii stuff
somewhere, if it might appeal to her.  Since when did this become
"alt.for-VK-VIEWING-PLEASURE-ONLY??????

Jesus on the cross, angels, cartoon characters, menorahs, swastikas,
whatever.  Do we all really need to be constantly challenged about our
likes or beliefs, on a newsgroup such as ascii art????  I believe there
are other forums for point-counter-point.

There are many holidays jointly celebrated, worldwide, some of which her
country does not observe.  It is obvious she just cant help but spew
distaste at various cultures and traditions.  The whole world is made up
of thousands and thousands of traditions, and I am sure not all of us
understand, agree or embrace them.  But, they should not be belittled or
ridiculed.

be well always,
Pru








Spunk1111 <spu...@aol.comQQ> wrote in message
news:200...@ng-fu1.aol.com...
> >Message-id: <3A0...@hotmail.com>
> >Maybe you should import the Swedish Easter
> >witches...?
>
> What an idea... but I'm afraid they might get lost
> amidst all the Easter bunnies, chicks, ducklings,
> eggs, baskets, egg hunts, and the religious aspects
> of the holiday.  But I promise that I'll make an ASCII
> Easter witch this spring!  (If I forget, just remind me!)
>
> >> (even though we do write in English most of the time)  ;)
> >And? Surely the "international" bit has more to do with what
countries
> >people live in (and what countries/religions their ancestors belonged
> >to) than with what language is used for communication?
>
> Absolutely... I only made that comment because it is very
> easy for short-sighted people to assume that since we use English
> in this newsgroup, we all have the same customs, traditions, and
> ideals.
>
> >How long would
> >it take you to work your way through a dictionary?   ;-)
>
> It depends... abridged or unabridged?  :P
>
>
>http://www.sverigeturism.se/smorgasbord/smorgasbord/culture/lifestyle/f
es
> tivals.html
>
> Nice link.  I printed out the Swedish recipes.  I think I'll give the
> meatballs a try.  :)
>
> () () () ()
>
> >> I think that a mention of such things on this newsgroup might
> >> elicit additional ASCII art pictures.
> >
> >Definitely! I have already posted some Lucia pictures in the past and
I
> >have seen some pictures here related to some Dutch (?) holiday, and
> >jewish holidays, and "valentines day", and other days that are not
> >celebrated in Sweden ... Most of it Good Stuff!   :-)
>
> Hopefully we can have a 'heads-up' on some of these holidays and
> traditions before the day has arrived.
>
> -joan
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[ VK & Joan speaks of Traditions / languages / customs]

I could'nt agree more.

> >http://www.sverigeturism.se/smorgasbord/smorgasbord/culture/lifestyle/fes
> tivals.html
>
> Nice link.  I printed out the Swedish recipes.  I think I'll give the
> meatballs a try.  :)

Good choice .. I like Swedish meatballs , though i still think the danish meatballs are better.
I usually get to eat swedish meatballs when we (my family) are staying in our house in sweden.
It sort of fits the mood. It's also good to try some different than what you're used to (of foods
that is)

  ))
 (((
  oo   - Nahh that does really look like a bowl with meatballs does it ?
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> Hopefully we can have a 'heads-up' on some of these holidays and
> traditions before the day has arrived.

Well my birthday is comming up =8)
30th this month..

uhh i just rembered .. I still have unopened presents from last year (ascii ones)
I gotta figure out what was in them and draw it.

I changed the sign below a little bit.

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Bateau <Its...@Not-A-Real-Address.com> ASCII art 4 Nov 2000 01:47 · permalink · report
On Thu, 02 Nov 2000 16:47:42 +0100 Veronica Karlsson <asc...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>Spunk1111 wrote:
>> I had never heard of Easter witches before.  And I can now understand
>> your reluctance at accepting an Americanized Halloween tradition in
>> your country --  kids already travel door-to-door for treats.
>> I'd probably feel the same way if Santa Claus decided to make
>> a second appearance in a year.
>
>That's a very good analogy. Exactly like that. American shop owners
>might find the idea of Christmas twice a year interesting, and of course
>the kids would love it. Maybe you should import the Swedish Easter
>witches...?
>
>[no, I'm not entirely serious]

I got my swedish pal to show me a photo of her dressed up as an easter witch :D
Funny stuff.
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Pru wrote:
> 
> Joan, VK doesnt like the newly acquired halloween in her
> country...SO????  A solution for her: dont participate here in aaa or
> in your daily life, as with any belief, tradition, religion etc.  And
> rather than educating HERSELF on this one tradition, celebrated in
> many different ways around the world, she flames the tradition because
> her country just recently incorporated this new 'thang' and she does
> not like it.  And that is ok, but what is NOT ok, is her ignorance to
> others here, with no knowledge base.  Its rude.
>...

As I read it, VK was rejecting Halloween primarily not because it was
foreign, but because it involves blackmail. And I think she's perfectly
entitled to have such an opinion. Just being entrenched in a particular
country or society doesn't make a tradition morally acceptable.

For example, some countries have traditions of female circumcision.

I could do some ObAscii of that, but somehow I don't think it would be
very entertaining.

-- 
Matthew `mpt' Thomas, Mozilla user interface QA
ASCII art FAQ: http://cantua.canterbury.ac.nz/~mpt26/art/ascii/faq/

Matthew Thomas wrote:
> As I read it, VK was rejecting Halloween primarily not because it was
> foreign, but because it involves blackmail. And I think she's perfectly
> entitled to have such an opinion. Just being entrenched in a particular
> country or society doesn't make a tradition morally acceptable.

Oh, and that's not even taking into account that in order to get room
for this "new tradition" an old, and very serious tradition has been
thrown out (yes, I say "thrown out", because, AFAIK, people *still*
can't be in several places at once!). I guess selling grave candles
doesn't give as big profits as selling candy and ghost costumes. I guess
it doesn't matter to these shop owners that "some religious nuts" (read:
that majority of the population who is A: Christian and B: old enough to
have known somebody who is now dead) are offended by kids dressed up in
Carnival clothes knocking on their doors when they are actively mourning
dead friends and relatives...


[And now that it's all over for this time, yes, I saw two
trick-or-treaters. No I didn't give them a lecture. The weather
yesterday was so lousy that I felt sorry for them! I didn't give them
any candy, I just said "no thanks" and closed the door.]
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Ville Jouppi <vjo...@sci.fi> ASCII art 6 Nov 2000 00:00 · permalink · report
On Fri, 3 Nov 2000 03:07:51 +0100, "Christian 'CeeJay' Jensen"
<new...@CeeJay.cjb.not> wrote:

>> Nice link.  I printed out the Swedish recipes.  I think I'll give the
>> meatballs a try.  :)
>
>Good choice .. I like Swedish meatballs , though i still think the danish meatballs are better.
>I usually get to eat swedish meatballs when we (my family) are staying in our house in sweden.
>It sort of fits the mood. It's also good to try some different than what you're used to (of foods
>that is)

Hey, could someone send me the recipe for real Swedish meatballs? I've been
wondering for ages what makes them special. I LOVE meatballs, and I'd like to
know whether these I've had are the same as those well known Swedish ones..
Now this is offtopic if anything.. :-) I wrote out the recipe.. Decided not to
post it as the instructions are pretty long.. If you're interested, go ahead
and email me.

I'm almost expecting the recipes to be the same.. We are neighbouring
countries after all.

ObAscii
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88#88#8
8O88#88
`8#888'
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A meatball.. :-)

On Thu, 02 Nov 2000 21:59:15 +0200, Jan-Erik Finnberg <whe...@saunalahti.fi>
wrote:

>On Wed, 01 Nov 2000 10:25:25 -0800, Ville Jouppi <vjo...@sci.fi> wrote:
>
>>branch is waved about. I tried to translate it but as it doesn't make too much
>>sense in Finnish IMHO, I thought it would make half as much in English.. :-D
>>Some other Finn can try if they really want to.. Virvon varvon..
>
>I think the idea of the poem is something like "I wave these willow
>twigs to bring you health for the rest of the year. Here's a twig,
>please give me a prize" 

Ah, that's what "tuoreeks' terveeks'" means.. I've never given it too much
thought.. Just regarded it as a chant. Maybe I should get more into our
customs.

ObScii

 ^-^
=o o=
 \-/

A kitten?

> >> Nice link.  I printed out the Swedish recipes.  I think I'll give the
> >> meatballs a try.  :)
> >
> >Good choice .. I like Swedish meatballs , though i still think the danish meatballs are better.
> >I usually get to eat swedish meatballs when we (my family) are staying in our house in sweden.
> >It sort of fits the mood. It's also good to try some different than what you're used to (of foods
> >that is)
>
> Hey, could someone send me the recipe for real Swedish meatballs? I've been
> wondering for ages what makes them special. I LOVE meatballs, and I'd like to
> know whether these I've had are the same as those well known Swedish ones..
> Now this is offtopic if anything.. :-) I wrote out the recipe.. Decided not to
> post it as the instructions are pretty long.. If you're interested, go ahead
> and email me.
>
> I'm almost expecting the recipes to be the same.. We are neighbouring
> countries after all.

If you like I can post the danish recipe (at least the recipe we use in our home)
They are delicious !

> ObAscii
>    ___
>  ,88O88.
> d88*8*#8b
>  8O`-'88
>  `8#888'
>    """
> A meatball.. :-)

Meatball face ..

On Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:22:48 +0100, "Christian 'CeeJay' Jensen"
<new...@CeeJay.cjb.nOt> wrote:

>> I'm almost expecting the recipes to be the same.. We are neighbouring
>> countries after all.
>
>If you like I can post the danish recipe (at least the recipe we use in our home)
>They are delicious !

Email would be nice.. Always interested in trying out new stuff.. :-)

Spunk-
There was a time when VK would probably have claimed to
be *the* Easter witch.
-Roland

On 02 Nov 2000 22:04:22 GMT, spu...@aol.comQQ (Spunk1111) wrote:

>>Message-id: <3A0...@hotmail.com>
>>Maybe you should import the Swedish Easter
>>witches...?
>
>What an idea... but I'm afraid they might get lost
>amidst all the Easter bunnies, chicks, ducklings,
>eggs, baskets, egg hunts, and the religious aspects
>of the holiday.  But I promise that I'll make an ASCII
>Easter witch this spring!  (If I forget, just remind me!)
>
>>> (even though we do write in English most of the time)  ;)
>>And? Surely the "international" bit has more to do with what countries
>>people live in (and what countries/religions their ancestors belonged
>>to) than with what language is used for communication?
>
>Absolutely... I only made that comment because it is very
>easy for short-sighted people to assume that since we use English
>in this newsgroup, we all have the same customs, traditions, and
>ideals.
>
>>How long would
>>it take you to work your way through a dictionary?   ;-)
>
>It depends... abridged or unabridged?  :P
>
>>http://www.sverigeturism.se/smorgasbord/smorgasbord/culture/lifestyle/fes
>tivals.html
>
>Nice link.  I printed out the Swedish recipes.  I think I'll give the
>meatballs a try.  :)
>
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>
>>> I think that a mention of such things on this newsgroup might
>>> elicit additional ASCII art pictures.
>>
>>Definitely! I have already posted some Lucia pictures in the past and I
>>have seen some pictures here related to some Dutch (?) holiday, and
>>jewish holidays, and "valentines day", and other days that are not
>>celebrated in Sweden ... Most of it Good Stuff!   :-)
>
>Hopefully we can have a 'heads-up' on some of these holidays and
>traditions before the day has arrived.
>
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