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alt.ascii-art · 40 messages · 9 Nov 2004 - 12 Nov 2004
Faux_Tran wrote:
>  #1965 NEWS FLASH
> nerd boy,newsgroup
> 
> MAYBE I JUST FINALLY TOOK MY OWN                           
> LIFE AFTER WASTING ALL THESE                               
> YEARS MAKING CRAPPY ASCII ART                              
> AND EVEN CRAPPER JOKES             WHAT DO I CARE I'M STILL
>                                   GOING TO FUCK YOUR CORPSE


Score!

"Faux_Tran" <F0S...@gmail.com> skrev i meddelandet
 news:hS6kd.8621$0Y5.4998@lakeread07
> #1965 NEWS FLASH
> nerd boy,newsgroup

:D Thanks Tran. That's exactly the kind of incentive I need
to continue making strips. Not that I didn't enjoy the posts
from other people here, but you have to admit that Tran said
it best; I'm faxing his CV to Hallmark right now.

Expect a new strip soon... possibly this Friday.

-- 
 OO  Joaquim G�ndara
.||. http://www.Nerd-Boy.net
 bb  jg

ABCGi <abc...@yahoo.com> ASCII art 10 Nov 2004 00:38 · permalink
Joaquim G�ndara wrote:

> "Faux_Tran" <F0S...@gmail.com> skrev i meddelandet
>  news:hS6kd.8621$0Y5.4998@lakeread07
> 
>>#1965 NEWS FLASH
>>nerd boy,newsgroup
> 
> :D Thanks Tran. That's exactly the kind of incentive I need
> to continue making strips. Not that I didn't enjoy the posts
> from other people here, but you have to admit that Tran said
> it best; I'm faxing his CV to Hallmark right now.
> 
> Expect a new strip soon... possibly this Friday.

Yay! I was worried about you :)

Oh and Tran is a penis.

-- 
ABCGi - Atomic                             ______________________
<===>   Bacterial  Genetic                |---------------------||
         Chemical   Infantrymen <=========== http://abcgi.fly.to =-+-=>
                                           |---------------------|'

_.-In alt.ascii-art, Joaquim G�ndara wrote the following -._
> it best; I'm faxing his CV to Hallmark right now.

CV?  Hmm... google.com --> "define: CV" ... page down...
page dow...  page .. ahhh there it is.  "
European term for resume or brief personal biography."

The context told me that is what it was.  But I just had to be sure.

> Expect a new strip soon... possibly this Friday.

I can wait on the strip.  Now that I know it is coming.  
But please tell us before then what the delay was.  Inquiring minds
what to know.

-- 
  .-'))     asciipr0n.com/fp       ('-.  | It's a damn poor mind that
 ' ..-  .:" )               ( ":.  -.. ' | can only think of one way to
  ((,,_;'.;'   UIN=66618055  ';. ';_,,)) | spell a word.
        ((_.YIM=Faux_Pseudo :._))        | - Andrew Jackson

Ray Costanzo [MVP] <my ...> 10 Nov 2004 03:31 · permalink
YES, YES!  COME BACK!

Ray at home

"Joaquim G�ndara" <joa...@telia.com> wrote in message 
news:2vd...@uni-berlin.de...
> "Faux_Tran" <F0S...@gmail.com> skrev i meddelandet
> news:hS6kd.8621$0Y5.4998@lakeread07
>> #1965 NEWS FLASH
>> nerd boy,newsgroup
>
> :D Thanks Tran. That's exactly the kind of incentive I need
> to continue making strips. Not that I didn't enjoy the posts
> from other people here, but you have to admit that Tran said
> it best; I'm faxing his CV to Hallmark right now.
>
> Expect a new strip soon... possibly this Friday.
>
> -- 
> OO  Joaquim G�ndara
> .||. http://www.Nerd-Boy.net
> bb  jg
>
> 

ABCGi <abc...@yahoo.com> ASCII art 10 Nov 2004 05:05 · permalink
Ray Costanzo [MVP] wrote:

> YES, YES!  COME BACK!
> 
> Ray at home
> 
> "Joaquim G�ndara" <joa...@telia.com> wrote in message 
> news:2vd...@uni-berlin.de...
> 
>>"Faux_Tran" <F0S...@gmail.com> skrev i meddelandet
>>news:hS6kd.8621$0Y5.4998@lakeread07
>>
>>>#1965 NEWS FLASH
>>>nerd boy,newsgroup
>>
>>:D Thanks Tran. That's exactly the kind of incentive I need
>>to continue making strips. Not that I didn't enjoy the posts
>>from other people here, but you have to admit that Tran said
>>it best; I'm faxing his CV to Hallmark right now.
>>
>>Expect a new strip soon... possibly this Friday.
>>
>>-- 
>>OO  Joaquim G�ndara
>>.||. http://www.Nerd-Boy.net
>>bb  jg

Hoo-Ray for reverse direction neck-breaking top to bottom posting!!!

TurboOA:           ====
                    | o
                    \ -
                     ||
             *SNAP* //
                    \\


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         Chemical   Infantrymen <=========== http://abcgi.fly.to =-+-=>
                                           |---------------------|'

ABCGi <abc...@yahoo.com> ASCII art 10 Nov 2004 05:06 · permalink
Seriously.

ABCGi - Atomic                             ______________________
<===>   Bacterial  Genetic                |---------------------||
         Chemical   Infantrymen <=========== http://abcgi.fly.to =-+-=>
                                           |---------------------|'
ABCGi wrote:

> Ray Costanzo [MVP] wrote:
> 
>> YES, YES!  COME BACK!
>>
>> Ray at home
>>
>> "Joaquim G�ndara" <joa...@telia.com> wrote in message 
>> news:2vd...@uni-berlin.de...
>>
>>> "Faux_Tran" <F0S...@gmail.com> skrev i meddelandet
>>> news:hS6kd.8621$0Y5.4998@lakeread07
>>>
>>>> #1965 NEWS FLASH
>>>> nerd boy,newsgroup
>>>
>>>
>>> :D Thanks Tran. That's exactly the kind of incentive I need
>>> to continue making strips. Not that I didn't enjoy the posts
>>> from other people here, but you have to admit that Tran said
>>> it best; I'm faxing his CV to Hallmark right now.
>>>
>>> Expect a new strip soon... possibly this Friday.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> OO  Joaquim G�ndara
>>> .||. http://www.Nerd-Boy.net
>>> bb  jg
> 
> 
> Hoo-Ray for reverse direction neck-breaking top to bottom posting!!!
> 
> TurboOA:           ====
>                    | o
>                    \ -
>                     ||
>             *SNAP* //
>                    \\
> 
> 

On 09/11/2004, around 08:59, Faux_Tran wrote: 

Faux_Tran>  #1965 NEWS FLASH
Faux_Tran> nerd boy,newsgroup

Faux_Tran> MAYBE I JUST FINALLY TOOK MY OWN                           
Faux_Tran> LIFE AFTER WASTING ALL THESE                               
Faux_Tran> YEARS MAKING CRAPPY ASCII ART                              
Faux_Tran> AND EVEN CRAPPER JOKES
You can laugh; about a year ago I was chasing a guy who I'd bought
some software from about some changes, he was answering his mail. I
finally called him at home in the US (I live in the UK) and a woman
answered. I asked to speak to Joe and the woman told me that she was
his mother and she'd gone 'round to his apartment the day before to
see him and found him dead on the sofa having had a massive heart
attack.

-- 
Stuart
See headers for PGP Key.
If you had to identify, in one word, the reason why the human race has
not achieved, and never will achieve, its full potential, that word
would be "meetings."

Ray Costanzo [MVP] <my ...> 10 Nov 2004 14:12 · permalink
I don't have time to re-read everything every time someone replies.

Ray at work

"ABCGi" <abc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:4191a172$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> Ray Costanzo [MVP] wrote:
>
>> YES, YES!  COME BACK!
>>
>> Ray at home
>>

> Hoo-Ray for reverse direction neck-breaking top to bottom posting!!!
>
> TurboOA:           ====

_.-In alt.ascii-art, Ray Costanzo [MVP] wrote the following -._
> I don't have time to re-read everything every time someone replies.

You aren't using your news reader correctly then since most can be
configured not to show the quoted material to to skip to the unquoted
material.
Additional issues to consider:
1) some people read 2000 articles a day and want to have context for
comments.
2) A.  Top-posting
 Q.  What is the most annoying thing on Usenet.
3) Usenet isn't about /your/ convenience.  Remember that literally
thousands of people may read your reply.  So don't be selfish,
consider that the anti-top-posting standards exist for reasons and
those reasons don't revolve around you but the millions of Usenet
readers.
4)  You ever had to go to deja.com while doing a STFW and wasted hours
of valuable time because people with small dicks couldn't bother to
trim useless material from their replies and insisted on removing all
context from their words because they thought they were the only
person who mattered?[0]

			  Slugging the Blind
			  Love The Managment

[0] Ok I really like #4.  Maybe one day I will write the diffinative
rant against top posting and to make it on topic here I will do it all
in block text.  I feel inspired.

-- 
  .-'))     asciipr0n.com/fp       ('-.  | It's a damn poor mind that
 ' ..-  .:" )               ( ":.  -.. ' | can only think of one way to
  ((,,_;'.;'   UIN=66618055  ';. ';_,,)) | spell a word.
        ((_.YIM=Faux_Pseudo :._))        | - Andrew Jackson

Ray Costanzo [MVP] <my ...> 10 Nov 2004 19:40 · permalink
Like anyone else who has been active in the usenet thing for a while, I've 
been through this argument a thousand times before.  The conclusion that 
I've come to is that no one will ever win this war.  There will always be 
two sides to it, and that's just the way that it is.  I see both sides as 
having valid points.  I choose top-posting, because it makes for easier 
reading (regardless of news client configuration).  Actually, in response to 
a post such as yours, I'm typically more likely to inline-post, but I 
forgot.  :]

I see things as such:

Hi, how are you?


Hi, how are you?
I'm fine, thanks.  You?


Hi, how are you?
I'm fine, thanks.  You?
I'm also fine.  How is your cat?


Hi, how are you?
I'm fine, thanks.  You?
I'm also fine.  How is your cat?
Oh, my cat passed away.  :[


Hi, how are you?
I'm fine, thanks.  You?
I'm also fine.  How is your cat?
Oh, my cat passed away.  :[
Yikes!  I'm really sorry.



Hi, how are you?
I'm fine, thanks.  You?
I'm also fine.  How is your cat?
Oh, my cat passed away.  :[
Yikes!  I'm really sorry.
Yeah, it sucks.


Hi, how are you?
I'm fine, thanks.  You?
I'm also fine.  How is your cat?
Oh, my cat passed away.  :[
Yikes!  I'm really sorry.
Yeah, it sucks.
Are you going to get a new one?


Hi, how are you?
I'm fine, thanks.  You?
I'm also fine.  How is your cat?
Oh, my cat passed away.  :[
Yikes!  I'm really sorry.
Yeah, it sucks.
Are you going to get a new one?
Yes, I bought one on Ebay.


Hi, how are you?
I'm fine, thanks.  You?
I'm also fine.  How is your cat?
Oh, my cat passed away.  :[
Yikes!  I'm really sorry.
Yeah, it sucks.
Are you going to get a new one?
Yes, I bought one on Ebay.
Alright, well good luck with that.


Hi, how are you?
I'm fine, thanks.  You?
I'm also fine.  How is your cat?
Oh, my cat passed away.  :[
Yikes!  I'm really sorry.
Yeah, it sucks.
Are you going to get a new one?
Yes, I bought one on Ebay.
Alright, well good luck with that.
Thanks.


Ray at work


"Faux_Pseudo" <Fau...@yahoo.comERCIAL> wrote in message 
news:C_rkd.1322$%L1.552@lakeread07...
> _.-In alt.ascii-art, Ray Costanzo [MVP] wrote the following -._
>> I don't have time to re-read everything every time someone replies.
>
> You aren't using your news reader correctly then since most can be
> configured not to show the quoted material to to skip to the unquoted
> material.
> Additional issues to consider:
> 1) some people read 2000 articles a day and want to have context for
> comments.
> 2) A.  Top-posting
> Q.  What is the most annoying thing on Usenet. 

_.-In alt.ascii-art, Ray Costanzo [MVP] wrote the following -._
> I see things as such:

That is why you cut out the stuff you arn't replying too.

This:
> Hi, how are you?
> I'm fine, thanks.  You?
> I'm also fine.  How is your cat?
> Oh, my cat passed away.  :[
> Yikes!  I'm really sorry.
> Yeah, it sucks.
> Are you going to get a new one?
> Yes, I bought one on Ebay.
> Alright, well good luck with that.
> Thanks.

246 chars 

Becomes
> my cat passed away.  :[
<snip>
> Are you going to get a new one?
> Yes, I bought one on Ebay.
> Alright, well good luck with that.

124 chars
Half as much.
And over the course of 7 days the context is still there.

    A: Because it fouls the order in which people
    read text.
    Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
    A: Top-posting.
    Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet
    e-mail?
		-- ozbear

And there is a reason you keep having this debate.  Because top
posters are a nuisance.  Thy do not trim.  If top posters just
bothered to trim their posts you could probibly cut the deja archive
system requirments in half and the drive space could probibly be cut
in a 1/4th.  S->N would go up dramatically.  Don't stop top posting
because you know it pisses people off, stop doing it because life and
the usenet isn't about you.  It is about others that read what you
write and when you top post you waste more peoples time than you save
them.

Here is a link I put together some time ago on the subject:
<url:http://asciipr0n.com/fp/linux/top-posting.txt>

Just think for a moment:  Almost every arcive or hosting service for
mailing lists and usenet has an anti-top-posting policy.  Things also
generally on the list are trolling, fraud and talking about illegal
things.  They all agre on those 4 things.  Top posting is seen by the
majority of the people in-the-know as one of the 4 deadly sins of
lists.  Even MS says in their faqs that it is bad.

People get killfiled for it.  I have killfiled people for it
in other groups.  Every person who posts replies in this group other
than yourself is a non-top-poster.  We all thing ASCII is great.  We
all know top posting is bad.  Beyond that we probibly agree on
nothing.[0]  Yet you seem to think your preferance to not trim and to
top post because it is convineiant for you is all fine and dandy.

[0] lucinda or currier?
emacs or vi or notepad?
ab or ob?

-- 
  .-'))     asciipr0n.com/fp       ('-.  | It's a damn poor mind that
 ' ..-  .:" )               ( ":.  -.. ' | can only think of one way to
  ((,,_;'.;'   UIN=66618055  ';. ';_,,)) | spell a word.
        ((_.YIM=Faux_Pseudo :._))        | - Andrew Jackson

Homer.Simpson wrote:
>>see him and found him dead on the sofa having *had* a massive heart
>>attack.
> 
> How could be have been dead -and- having a massive heart attack?  
> These seem mutually exclusive to me?   Please elaborate.

The answer is in the original... just read the star'd text. :)

Faux_Pseudo <Fau...@yahoo.comERCIAL> ASCII art 11 Nov 2004 03:05 · permalink
_.-In alt.ascii-art, Homer.Simpson wrote the following -._
> Oh yea, another rule.  (  Which I often neglect  ;-)  )
>
> Obligatory ASCII:

I forget that a lot too.  Although since I have had a few items
sitting around that I never posted I have been using them.

Here is one I was working on but wasn't able to get it right. 

It needs some work on the right hand side, some water on the left and
it needs a troll.  All diddles welcome on this one as I hope it might
become a gift to the usenet form aa-a.

                                                               
                   A troll responded to is a troll fed.       
----------------....___________                                
|__|__|__|__|__|__|  |  |  |   |```|```----..                  
``------|.|..|__|_`--`-.|__|___|   |_____|   ``-.              
                  ````--...|_  |---'___ _| ___ _| ._.__..---.._
                             ``-.  |   |      | |-._         
                                 \_|_ _|__v_vv|_|   |        
                            _v_/--~~~    ``       _/   
                 ___v---v~~~               __..--'     
            :F_P:                    ..--''            

######################################Thu Nov 4 2004#################



-- 
  .-'))     asciipr0n.com/fp       ('-.  | It's a damn poor mind that
 ' ..-  .:" )               ( ":.  -.. ' | can only think of one way to
  ((,,_;'.;'   UIN=66618055  ';. ';_,,)) | spell a word.
        ((_.YIM=Faux_Pseudo :._))        | - Andrew Jackson

Ray Costanzo [MVP] <my ...> 11 Nov 2004 04:27 · permalink
Ah, yes, the typical lesson on courtesy by means of a flame.

Ray at home

"Homer.Simpson" <Hom...@SpringfieldBB.com.INVALID> wrote in message 
news:Xns959DC70165728nope@130.133.1.4...
> Ray Costanzo [MVP] said
>
>> Like anyone else who has been active in the usenet thing for a while,
>> I've been through this argument a thousand times before.  The
>> conclusion that I've come to is that no one will ever win this war.
>
> Your conclusion is erroneous.  There was a loser.  It was you. 

ABCGi <abc...@yahoo.com> ASCII art 11 Nov 2004 04:42 · permalink
Please do

post or

have to

it is

Ray Costanzo [MVP] wrote:
> Ah, yes, the typical lesson on courtesy by means of a flame.
> 
> Ray at home

but if

> "Homer.Simpson" <Hom...@SpringfieldBB.com.INVALID> wrote in message 
> news:Xns959DC70165728nope@130.133.1.4...
> 
>>Ray Costanzo [MVP] said

do it

>>>Like anyone else who has been active in the usenet thing for a while,
>>>I've been through this argument a thousand times before.  The
>>>conclusion that I've come to is that no one will ever win this war.

i don't

>>Your conclusion is erroneous.  There was a loser.  It was you. 

not top

i will

*plonk* you.

nothing personal


my brain will leak out of its ears...


                               /-----\
         TOA:            *****e| o o |e
             brains -> @@@      {===}
                                  `
-- 
ABCGi - Atomic                             ______________________
<===>   Bacterial  Genetic                |---------------------||
         Chemical   Infantrymen <=========== http://abcgi.fly.to =-+-=>
                                           |---------------------|'

In <k9K...@giganews.com>, "Ray Costanzo [MVP]" <my first
name at lane 34 dot commercial> wrote:
    Y                                              O 
>Ah, O   yes, the typical lesson on courtesy by   O means of a flame.
      U                                          T
>Raya     t home                                 
>       C                                      G 
>"Homer. A  Simpson" <Homer.Simpson@Spring    N   fieldBB.com.INVALID> wrote in message 
>news:Xns N  959DC70165728nope@130.133.1.4   I   ...
>> Ray Cos   tanzo [MVP] said               T
            P                              S  
>>> Like an  I  yone else who has been    O active in the usenet thing for a while,
>>> I've been S  through this argument   P a thousand times before.  The
>>> conclusion S   that I've come to i  L s that no one will ever win this war.
                                       A
>> Your conclus  P ion is erroneous.  N  There was a loser.  It was you. 
                  E                  G
                   O                A
                    P              I
                     L            D
                      E       
                                H
                        O      T
                         F    I
                          F  w

ABCGi <abc...@yahoo.com> ASCII art 11 Nov 2004 04:44 · permalink
Homer.Simpson wrote:

> Ray Costanzo [MVP] said
> 
> 
>>Like anyone else who has been active in the usenet thing for a while,
>>I've been through this argument a thousand times before.  The
>>conclusion that I've come to is that no one will ever win this war. 
> 
> 
> Your conclusion is erroneous.  There was a loser.  It was you.
> 
> Note the careful trimming?  It's another USENET courtesy; just as 
> important as bottom posting. 
> 
> Oh yea, another rule.  (  Which I often neglect  ;-)  )
> 
> Obligatory ASCII:
> 
>                          _   FUCK ALL TOP POSTERS  _
>                         |_|                       |_|
>                         | |         /^^^\         | |
>                        _| |_      (| "o" |)      _| |_
>                      _| | | | _    (_---_)    _ | | | |_
>                     | | | | |' |    _| |_    | `| | | | |
>                     |          |   /     \   |          |
>                      \        /  / /(. .)\ \  \        /
>                        \    /  / /  | . |  \ \  \    /
>                          \  \/ /    ||Y||    \ \/  /
>                           \__/      || ||      \__/
>                                     () ()
>                                     || ||
>                                    ooO Ooo
> 

LOL. But trimming, what about those that have readers that can't see 
past messages... they prefer you keep all content. Of course they are on 
1980's machines....

-- 
ABCGi - Atomic                             ______________________
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         Chemical   Infantrymen <=========== http://abcgi.fly.to =-+-=>
                                           |---------------------|'

Ray Costanzo [MVP] <my ...> 11 Nov 2004 04:51 · permalink
That's good.  :]

Ray at home

"Sharky" <sha...@hellsgates.cor> wrote in message 
news:poq...@4ax.com...
> In <k9K...@giganews.com>, "Ray Costanzo [MVP]" <my first
> name at lane 34 dot commercial> wrote:
>    Y                                              O
>>Ah, O   yes, the typical lesson on courtesy by   O means of a flame.
>      U                                          T
>>Raya     t home
>>       C                                      G
>>"Homer. A  Simpson" <Homer.Simpson@Spring    N   fieldBB.com.INVALID> 
>>wrote in message
>>news:Xns N  959DC70165728nope@130.133.1.4   I   ...
>>> Ray Cos   tanzo [MVP] said               T
>            P                              S
>>>> Like an  I  yone else who has been    O active in the usenet thing for 
>>>> a while,
>>>> I've been S  through this argument   P a thousand times before.  The
>>>> conclusion S   that I've come to i  L s that no one will ever win this 
>>>> war.
>                                       A
>>> Your conclus  P ion is erroneous.  N  There was a loser.  It was you.
>                  E                  G
>                   O                A
>                    P              I
>                     L            D
>                      E
>                                H
>                        O      T
>                         F    I
>                          F  w
> 

ABCGi <abc...@yahoo.com> ASCII art 11 Nov 2004 05:14 · permalink
Faux_Pseudo wrote:

> Here is a link I put together some time ago on the subject:
> <url:http://asciipr0n.com/fp/linux/top-posting.txt>

Hey proofed by me :) Proofed as in edited and proofed as in Q.E.D.

  ________
  |SCHOOL|
  pppppppp      :TOA                              vampyre       Buffy!
  ee-==-ee                                       ,             ,
  ww aa ww                                      o            _<
  || || ||......................................"............."...

-- 
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         Chemical   Infantrymen <=========== http://abcgi.fly.to =-+-=>
                                           |---------------------|'

"Ray Costanzo [MVP]" <my first name at lane 34 dot commercial> wrote:

,-- Look down here
|
| > Like anyone else who has been active in the usenet thing for a 
| >while, I've been through this argument a thousand times before.
| <snip>
|
`--> I wonder how much time and resources could be saved if everyone
     would just stop bickering about it. Personally I think that if
     someone's posting style or content bothers you it is an easy thing
     to _quietly_ killfile that individual instead of wasting _my_
     precious time with all this ranting and raving. ;-)

  ,,,,,    ,,,,,    ,,,,,
 ( x,x )  X o,o X  ( o,o )
  \(_)/    \(_)/    \(X)/

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On 11/11/2004, around 09:17, Homer.Simpson wrote: 


HS> How could be have been dead -and- having a massive heart attack?  
HS> These seem mutually exclusive to me?   Please elaborate.
>> see him and found him dead on the sofa having had a massive heart
                                                 ^^^

-- 
Stuart
See headers for PGP Key.
Some days you are the bug; some days you are the windscreen.

On 11/11/2004, around 09:18, Homer.Simpson wrote: 


HS> Well shit, now it sounds like the sofa had a heart attack.  What the hell
HS> is going on here?  ;-)
When the sofa had the HA it rolled over on the guy and killed him.

-- 
Stuart
See headers for PGP Key.
Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps.

Veronica Karlsson <ver...@gmail.com> ASCII art 11 Nov 2004 11:45 · permalink
Ray Costanzo [MVP] wrote:
> 
> I don't have time to re-read everything every time someone replies.
> 

Why would you? (clue: old text lines start with a '>'. If you have read
the previous post you just look for the first line that isn't old. My
news reader is ancient and even that can do colour coding of the old
lines.)

> "ABCGi" wrote:
> > Ray Costanzo [MVP] wrote:
> >
> >> YES, YES!  COME BACK!
> >>
> 
> > Hoo-Ray for reverse direction neck-breaking top to bottom posting!!!
> >

[Should my reply have been here? There is no correct answer, both
alternatives are wrong, because the person I reply to is top posting.]

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Veronica Karlsson <ver...@gmail.com> ASCII art 11 Nov 2004 11:46 · permalink
Ray Costanzo [MVP] wrote:
> 
> I see things as such:
>
> Hi, how are you?
> I'm fine, thanks.  You?
> I'm also fine.  How is your cat?
> Oh, my cat passed away.  :[
> Yikes!  I'm really sorry.
> Yeah, it sucks.
> Are you going to get a new one?
> Yes, I bought one on Ebay.
> Alright, well good luck with that.
> Thanks.

Then somebody is talking to himself. What I see a lot of is this:

> > > > > > > > > > Hi, how are you?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm fine, thanks.  You?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm also fine.  How is your cat?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Oh, my cat passed away.  :[
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yikes!  I'm really sorry.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah, it sucks.
> > > >
> > > > Are you going to get a new one?
> > >
> > > Yes, I bought one on 
> >
> > Alright, well good luck with that.
>
> Thanks.


Very different animal! If you are a regular reader of a group you can
safely assume that you have already read the older lines and go straight
for the second newest line. If you are reading it in a threaded format
you don't need the second newest line and can go straight for the newest
line (I often ignore interesting looking threads for a few days to let
them "mature" so I can read them more quickly, this also works well for
lurking). If you read the post out of context (which is also quite
common) it's nice to have the whole thing there (well, enough of it to
give a bit of context). Properly quoted text works for all these
different types of reading. Top posting does not.


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Veronica Karlsson <ver...@gmail.com> ASCII art 11 Nov 2004 11:49 · permalink
Ray Costanzo [MVP] wrote:
> 
> Ah, yes, the typical lesson on courtesy by means of a flame.
> 

Usenet would be a very boring place without flames.  :-)

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Veronica Karlsson <ver...@gmail.com> ASCII art 11 Nov 2004 11:53 · permalink
ABCGi wrote:
> Homer.Simpson wrote:
> > Note the careful trimming?  It's another USENET courtesy; just as
> > important as bottom posting.
> 
> LOL. But trimming, what about those that have readers that can't see
> past messages... they prefer you keep all content. Of course they are on
> 1980's machines....

Or, they have learned that it is less stressful in the long run to have
a news reader that don't allow them to keep a lot of old junk lying
around (IOW, it is a perfectly sensible preference). They probably think
of their choice as "self cleaning".


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In article <Bqykd.1388$%L1.123@lakeread07>, Faux_Pseudo wrote:
> Even MS says in their faqs that it is bad.
>
       ... while making it practically impossible to avoid in the 
default configuration of their mail/ news program. (Last version I 
worked with was a couple of years old - they might have  changed it, 
under the influence of the invading army of crack Venusian porcine 
paratroopers that took over Bill Gates' brain in Feburary and caused 
the "focus on security").
       
-- 
Aidan Karley,
Geologist,
"You are in a maze of twisty little presentation styles, all [different 
| alike]."

Stuart Hemming (via DFN-CIS NetNews Service) wrote:
> HS> Well shit, now it sounds like the sofa had a heart attack.  What the hell
> HS> is going on here?  ;-)
> When the sofa had the HA it rolled over on the guy and killed him.

Man, that's gotta hurt...

/me starts wearing a anti-couch-heart-attack good luck charm

On 11/11/2004, around 15:04, stilist wrote: 

S> /me starts wearing a anti-couch-heart-attack good luck charm
Soft furnishings is something of a misnomer.

-- 
Stuart
See headers for PGP Key.

In article <419...@gmail.com>, Veronica Karlsson wrote:
> Or, they have learned that it is less stressful in the long run to have
> a news reader that don't allow them to keep a lot of old junk lying
> around (IOW, it is a perfectly sensible preference).
>
       Plausible for a personal machine.
       In the UK, if you're an ISP you've got to keep comprehensive and 
usable archives of everything your customers post. I think it's for a 
period of 7 years. Failure to do so? Directors go to jail (potentially at 
least). It's all justified in the name of catching paedophiles and 
stalkers. Shows how little our politicians and legislators know about the 
ever-changing face of technology. Think joyfully about the storage 
implications of that.
       If you're posting for or from work (that would almost certainly 
include "work from home"), then your employer is probably legally liable 
for anything you say and do at work, or using work facilities. So they'll 
want to control your records from any machines that are theirs, or which 
use their facilities (post from your own machine, but using a modem 
connection that's paid for by work? Records please, sir, or unemployment 
looms.) What the control policies are is up to the company - it could be 
"retain indefinitely"; it could be "delete all email and news records 
after 30 days, without archiving them either corporately or individually" 
(Microsoft's internal policy, as recent litigation brought to light. Not 
that MS would admit to having such a policy.)

    ObASCII : ����??    
              ^^^^^^ compressed ASCII text, the original of which read 
"Compression is computationally costly and does not necessarily help in 
record keeping. Particularly if it's only ever likely to be used by PC 
Plod."
       
-- 
Aidan Karley,
Geologist,
"You are in a maze of twisty little presentation styles, all [different | 
alike]."

Veronica Karlsson <ver...@gmail.com> ASCII art 11 Nov 2004 20:03 · permalink
Aidan Karley wrote:
> Veronica Karlsson wrote:
> > Or, they have learned that it is less stressful in the long run to have
> > a news reader that don't allow them to keep a lot of old junk lying
> > around (IOW, it is a perfectly sensible preference).
> >
>        Plausible for a personal machine.
>        In the UK, if you're an ISP you've got to keep comprehensive and
> usable archives of everything your customers post. I think it's for a
> period of 7 years. Failure to do so? Directors go to jail (potentially at
> least).
> <snip more of the same>

What you are talking about is archives kept on some server somewhere.
What I was talking about is a feature of some news readers and why
somebody might prefer that feature. One is a sysadmin's task and the
other is a personal usability preference. I don't see what those two
things have to do with each other.


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"Faux_Pseudo" <Fau...@yahoo.comERCIAL> skrev i meddelandet
 news:Owdkd.91645$UA.56676@lakeread08
> _.-In alt.ascii-art, Joaquim G�ndara wrote the following -._
> > it best; I'm faxing his CV to Hallmark right now.
>
> CV?  Hmm... google.com --> "define: CV" ... page down...
> page dow...  page .. ahhh there it is.  "
> European term for resume or brief personal biography."

I thought Americans were big on Latin. CV = Curriculum Vitae.

> But please tell us before then what the delay was.  Inquiring minds
> what to know.

I'm just really busy. Also, it didn't help my inpiration
when a nice girl decided to express interest in me and
I couldn't for the life of me reciprocate her feelings.
Unfortunately, I'm not a cold-hearted bastard, so I
didn't play along just to get sex.
Conclusion: Nice guys finish last on purpose.

-- 
 OO  Joaquim G�ndara
.||. http://www.Nerd-Boy.net
 bb  jg

Joaquim G�ndara wrote:
> "Faux_Pseudo" <Fau...@yahoo.comERCIAL> skrev
>>But please tell us before then what the delay was.  Inquiring minds
>>what to know.
> 
> I'm just really busy. Also, it didn't help my inpiration
> when a nice girl decided to express interest in me and
> I couldn't for the life of me reciprocate her feelings.
> Unfortunately, I'm not a cold-hearted bastard, so I
> didn't play along just to get sex.
> Conclusion: Nice guys finish last on purpose.
> 
That sounds like excellent Nerd Boy material to me. Am I missing 
something(R)?

(Note: "Am I missing something?" is a registered trade mark of Dan 
Pop... read comp.lang.c for details...)
-- 
Bertrand

The Ultimate Artist <ult...@artistic.net> ASCII art 11 Nov 2004 22:31 · permalink
On 2004-11-11 joa...@telia.com said:

   > "Faux_Pseudo" wrote:
   >
   > > But please tell us before then what the delay was.  Inquiring
   > > minds [want] to know.
   >
   > I'm just really busy. Also, it didn't help my inpiration
   > when a nice girl decided to express interest in me and
   > I couldn't for the life of me reciprocate her feelings.
   > Unfortunately, I'm not a cold-hearted bastard, so I
   > didn't play along just to get sex.
   > Conclusion: Nice guys finish last on purpose.
   >--
   >OO  Joaquim G�ndara


   ...so, anyway, I think you're the hunkiest stud-muffin
   in all of Sweden. Let's go back to my place for a night
   of depraved, unbridled passion. What do you say, Joe?
                      /
                            Ummm...gee, that sounds really
                            good, but, uhhh...I...errr...
                            I have to go home and give my
                            ferret a flea bath.
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Ray Costanzo [MVP] <my ...> ASCII art 12 Nov 2004 00:28 · permalink
I wouldn't mind being the catalyst for an NB strip.  [;

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Ray at home

"Homer.Simpson" <Hom...@SpringfieldBB.com.INVALID> wrote in message 
news:Xns959EC4A9A30F6nope@130.133.1.4...

> Please save us from ourselves with a quick NB.  Perhaps something related
> to USENET etiquette?  (That'd be ironic.)

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:28:48 -0500, Ray Costanzo [MVP] <my first name at  
lane 34 dot commercial> wrote:

> I wouldn't mind being the catalyst for an NB strip.  [;
>
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Not ASCII, read the FAQ, it has recently been posted again.
-- 
Balaam's Miracle
Visit http://balaamsmiracle.cjb.net , your source to Christian underground  
music.

Ray Costanzo [MVP] <my ...> 12 Nov 2004 01:49 · permalink
"Balaam's Miracle" <don...@invalidemailaddress.com> wrote in message 
news:ops...@sophie.mshome.net...

> | ->�    |
> | |
> Not ASCII, read the FAQ, it has recently been posted again.

Damn.  Sorry about that.  FAQ indicates extended ASCII is not to be 
included.

Now I'm even more impressed by some of the things people come up with.

Ray at home 

ABCGi <abc...@yahoo.com> ASCII art 12 Nov 2004 04:27 · permalink
Ray Costanzo [MVP] wrote:
> "Balaam's Miracle" <don...@invalidemailaddress.com> wrote in message 
> news:ops...@sophie.mshome.net...
> 
>>| ->�    |
>>| |
>>Not ASCII, read the FAQ, it has recently been posted again.
> 
> 
> Damn.  Sorry about that.  FAQ indicates extended ASCII is not to be 
> included.
> 
> Now I'm even more impressed by some of the things people come up with.
> 
> Ray at home 

Thankyou for the BP... may all your children be of loving complexion.

TurboOA: _    _
         (0)  (0)
            /\   ,"Bring back NB!"
           ~~~~

-- 
ABCGi - Atomic                             ______________________
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Ray Costanzo [MVP] <my ...> 12 Nov 2004 04:40 · permalink
me too!  :P


"ABCGi" <abc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:41943bac$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> Ray Costanzo [MVP] wrote:
>> "Balaam's Miracle" <don...@invalidemailaddress.com> wrote in 
>> message news:ops...@sophie.mshome.net...
>>
>>>| ->�    |
>>>| |
>>>Not ASCII, read the FAQ, it has recently been posted again.
>>
>>
>> Damn.  Sorry about that.  FAQ indicates extended ASCII is not to be 
>> included.
>>
>> Now I'm even more impressed by some of the things people come up with.
>>
>> Ray at home
>
> Thankyou for the BP... may all your children be of loving complexion.
>
> TurboOA: _    _
>         (0)  (0)
>            /\   ,"Bring back NB!"
>           ~~~~
>
> -- 
> ABCGi - Atomic                             ______________________
> <===>   Bacterial  Genetic                |---------------------||
>         Chemical   Infantrymen <=========== http://abcgi.fly.to =-+-=>
>                                           |---------------------|' 

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