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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 18 Dec 2001.
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Mr.Genius

Mr.Genius

alt.ascii-art · 164 messages · 18 Dec 2001 - 6 Jan 2002
DynoGuru <dyn...@hotmail.com> ASCII art 18 Dec 2001 16:35 · permalink
Mr.Genius's gf
'flirty'... looks like annie, but flirty is of legal age ;)!

   ((~~~))
  ())o -(()
  ((( ^ )))
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Mr. Genius at sword-fight art by vladitx

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David and DP exploring the sea art by vladitx

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Mr.G and his pet! art by vladitx

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Mr.G blah... blahing... art by vladitx

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Mr.G blah... blahing... art by dyno

       Do u know that nerd boy
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our genius, taking a nap art by vladitx

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On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 11:35:57 -0500, "DynoGuru" <dyn...@hotmail.com>
tried to confuse everyone with this message:

<Snip Mr. Genius>

Oh, no! Stop posting that before I'll bite my a$$ off!!! :)

Very funny.

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MAIL|I will sette as I doe often in woorke use, a paire of paralleles of
RU|one lengthe, thus ===, bicause noe .2. thynges, can be moare equalle.
GRUE.FREESERVERS.COM|Robert Recorde,"The Whetstone of Witte',1557.[4*72]

> <Snip Mr. Genius>
>
> Oh, no! Stop posting that before I'll bite my a$$ off!!! :)

That sounds ... painful.

Auch..

> Mr.Genius's gf
> 'flirty'... looks like annie, but flirty is of legal age ;)!
>
>    ((~~~))
>   ())o -(()
>   ((( ^ )))
>  ())))-(((()

Don't sweat it - Annie will be legal age next year .. at least around here.
"Come to Denmark! .. meet the locals! .. have a good time!" ;)

ann...@oal.com ASCII art 19 Dec 2001 02:02 · permalink
On 2001-12-19 use...@ceejay.cjb.REMOVEnet said:

   >Don't sweat it - Annie will be legal age next year .. at least
   >around here. "Come to Denmark! .. meet the locals! .. have a good
   >time!" ;)

--
Annie Ascii -- budding 14-year-old ASCII artist
                             .,,,.
 ####    ####               (~~~)))   I might be 'legal' at 15,
##  ##  ##  ##              _ _ ((()  /  but that doesn't mean
######  ######              (^  ))))     I'll be 'available.'
##  ##  ##  ##               ~_((((()    Hehehe!
##  ##  ##  ##               /  ))))))

Mel <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> ASCII art 19 Dec 2001 02:06 · permalink
On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 02:02:25 -0000, ann...@oal.com sucked my dick and
said:
>On 2001-12-19 use...@ceejay.cjb.REMOVEnet said:
>   >Don't sweat it - Annie will be legal age next year .. at least
>   >around here. "Come to Denmark! .. meet the locals! .. have a good
>   >time!" ;)
-
Annie Ascii -- budding 14-year-old ASCII artist
                             .,,,.
 ####    ####               (~~~)))   I might be 'legal' at 15,
##  ##  ##  ##              _ _ ((()  /  but that doesn't mean
######  ######              (^  ))))     I'll be 'available.'
##  ##  ##  ##               ~_((((()    Hehehe!
##  ##  ##  ##               /  ))))))

shut the fuck up, bitch...

no one is going to ask your permission if they want to fuck you... they're
just going to rape yer bitch ass...

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if in doubt, suck me
www.AdderleyStreet.co.za

ann...@oal.com ASCII art 19 Dec 2001 05:32 · permalink
On 2001-12-19 me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za said:

   >shut the fuck up, bitch...
   >
   >no one is going to ask your permission if they want to fuck you...
   >they're just going to rape yer bitch ass...

--
Annie Ascii -- budding 14-year-old ASCII artist
                             .,,,.
 ####    ####               (~~~)))   Well, you've certainly lived up
##  ##  ##  ##              _ _ ((()  / to our negative expectations of
######  ######              (^  ))))    an African: stupid, filthy-
##  ##  ##  ##               ~_((((()   mouthed, and uncivilized. Get
##  ##  ##  ##               /  ))))))  some culture, moron. Ooga-booga!

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, drsquare wrote:

> On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 11:35:57 -0500, in alt.ascii-art,
>  ("DynoGuru" <dyn...@hotmail.com>) wrote:
> 
> >Mr.Genius's gf
> >'flirty'... looks like annie, but flirty is of legal age ;)!
> 
> So's "Annie" in some countries.

	Yep-- Hungary, for example.  Just think, Annie-- you could go
there and find the grandpa of your dreams right now!

==================
      ,qppppp.      
     qMMM____;M    ~ Taliszanna WhiteCrow ~  (a.k.a Jessie Brown OR
     qMMM.^^(Mp    Her Mighty Erisian Po*piness, Pope Dances-with-Earwax)
    .qMMM__=/Mp _/ http://talis_white_crow.tripod.com/
    MMMMM_',MMp      

On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, CeeJay wrote:

> > <Snip Mr. Genius>
> >
> > Oh, no! Stop posting that before I'll bite my a$$ off!!! :)
> 
> That sounds ... painful.

	Igen, yes oui, da, and "oy vey"!  There are some things that my
eyes and ears just should not have access to for my mind paints it so
vividly...  Yeesh, the curse of having a comic-book brain! *chuckle*  I
wonder what that would look like in ascii...

================
      ,qppppp.      
     qMMM____;M    ~ Taliszanna WhiteCrow ~  (a.k.a Jessie Brown OR
     qMMM.^^(Mp    Her Mighty Erisian Po*piness, Pope Dances-with-Earwax)
    .qMMM__=/Mp _/ http://talis_white_crow.tripod.com/
    MMMMM_',MMp      

On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:

> shut the fuck up, bitch...
> 
> no one is going to ask your permission if they want to fuck you... they're
> just going to rape yer bitch ass...

	Nevermind the pun, but: fer fuX0rs sake, mel...

==================
      ,qppppp.      
     qMMM____;M    ~ Taliszanna WhiteCrow ~  (a.k.a Jessie Brown OR
     qMMM.^^(Mp    Her Mighty Erisian Po*piness, Pope Dances-with-Earwax)
    .qMMM__=/Mp _/ http://talis_white_crow.tripod.com/
    MMMMM_',MMp      

DynoGuru <dyn...@hotmail.com> ASCII art 19 Dec 2001 15:17 · permalink
"CeeJay" <use...@ceejay.cjb.REMOVEnet> wrote in message
news:3c1fd784$0$62878$edf...@dspool01.news.tele.dk...
> Don't sweat it - Annie will be legal age next year .. at least around
here.
> "Come to Denmark! .. meet the locals! .. have a good time!" ;)
>
>

Heard that Denmark is famous for milk...
Is it true that they distribute milk through pipe, like water?



   Got Milk?
  /
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/-O
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"DynoGuru" <dyn...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "CeeJay" <use...@ceejay.cjb.REMOVEnet> wrote in message
> news:3c1fd784$0$62878$edf...@dspool01.news.tele.dk...
> > Don't sweat it - Annie will be legal age next year .. at least around
> here.
> > "Come to Denmark! .. meet the locals! .. have a good time!" ;)
> >
> >
>
> Heard that Denmark is famous for milk...
> Is it true that they distribute milk through pipe, like water?

Milkinstallations ?
Milkbaths .. milkshowers :)
Roads paved with gold and honey that flows from taps ..

Err... No. None of that is true.
But we do have very good milk, butter, bread, cheese, meat, etc .. All the dairy
products are excellent.
A lot of it is exported too .. f.x you can't buy good cheese in Sweden or
Germany and if you can it's imported from Denmark.
I was in town yesterday .. christmasshopping with a sister to one of my aunts ,
and she lives in germany (but is here with the family for christmas).
We stopped a shop that deals exclusively in cheese , where she bought several
kilos to bring back to Germany.

>    Got Milk?
>   /
> ~~
> /-O
> ||/c[]
>  Ib

:)

ann...@oal.com ASCII art 19 Dec 2001 21:47 · permalink
On 2001-12-19 Taliszanna said:

   >Yep-- Hungary, for example.  Just think, Annie-- you could go
   >there and find the grandpa of your dreams right now!


                             .,,,.
                            (~~~)))   NOT! Hehehe!
                            . . ((()  /
                            (^  ))))
                             ~_((((()
                             /  ))))))

DynoGuru <dyn...@hotmail.com> ASCII art 19 Dec 2001 21:51 · permalink
"Timofei Shatrov" <gru...@mail.ru> wrote in message
news:3c1...@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
> On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 11:35:57 -0500, "DynoGuru"
<dyn...@hotmail.com>
> tried to confuse everyone with this message:
>
> <Snip Mr. Genius>
>
> Oh, no! Stop posting that before I'll bite my a$$ off!!! :)

Is it possible? How could you do that? Wow man!!!

> Very funny.

Thank You ;)

>
> --

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Magnus Wibeck <mag...@telia.com> ASCII art 19 Dec 2001 22:04 · permalink
CeeJay wrote:
> 
> A lot of it is exported too .. f.x you can't buy good cheese in Sweden or
> Germany and if you can it's imported from Denmark.

I object!
In Sweden, we have great cheese. (http://www.cheese.com/countrystep2.asp?Country=Sweden)
At least semi-hard cheese, as for the soft ones I gladly
give it to the Danes and the mouldy ones, well, who would
want to eat 'em? (Except the French, but who counts them anyway?
and possibly the Danes because they have killed off their taste buds
with smoking too many cigarettes).

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"drsquare" <now...@nowhere.co.uk> skrev i meddelandet
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> On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:17:00 -0500, in alt.ascii-art,
>  ("DynoGuru" <dyn...@hotmail.com>) wrote:
>
> >"CeeJay" <use...@ceejay.cjb.REMOVEnet> wrote in message
> >news:3c1fd784$0$62878$edf...@dspool01.news.tele.dk...
> >> Don't sweat it - Annie will be legal age next year .. at least around
> >here.
> >> "Come to Denmark! .. meet the locals! .. have a good time!" ;)
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Heard that Denmark is famous for milk...
> >Is it true that they distribute milk through pipe, like water?
>
> I've heard hard-core porn is readily available there.

It is. In fact, they distribute it through pipes, like water.

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ann...@oal.com ASCII art 20 Dec 2001 04:47 · permalink
On 2001-12-19 cla...@lords.com said:

   > > >Heard that Denmark is famous for milk...
   > > >Is it true that they distribute milk through pipe, like water?
   >
   > >I've heard hard-core porn is readily available there.
   >
   >It is. In fact, they distribute it through pipes, like water.

                             .,,,.
                            (~~~)))   Hehe!  Good one, Joe!
                            _ _ ((()  /
                            (^  ))))
                             ~_((((()
                             /  ))))))

On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 05:48:30 -0600, Taliszanna <tal...@usask.ca> sucked
my dick and said:
>On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:
>> shut the fuck up, bitch...
>> no one is going to ask your permission if they want to fuck you... they're
>> just going to rape yer bitch ass...
>	Nevermind the pun, but: fer fuX0rs sake, mel...

and you call yerself a _GOTH_... pfffft... show me the pain, bitch!

-- 
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
if in doubt, suck me
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 21:47:04 -0000, ann...@oal.com sucked my dick and
said:
>On 2001-12-19 Taliszanna said:
>   >Yep-- Hungary, for example.  Just think, Annie-- you could go
>   >there and find the grandpa of your dreams right now!
>                             .,,,.
>                            (~~~)))   NOT! Hehehe!
>                            . . ((()  /
>                            (^  ))))
>                             ~_((((()
>                             /  ))))))

Has Annie finally gotta clue???

Who cares... I'm still going to rape her bitch ass...

-- 
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
if in doubt, suck me
www.AdderleyStreet.co.za

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 04:47:59 -0000, ann...@oal.com sucked my dick and
said:
>On 2001-12-19 cla...@lords.com said:
>   > > >Heard that Denmark is famous for milk...
>   > > >Is it true that they distribute milk through pipe, like water?
>   > >I've heard hard-core porn is readily available there.
>   >It is. In fact, they distribute it through pipes, like water.
>                             .,,,.
>                            (~~~)))   Hehe!  Good one, Joe!
>                            _ _ ((()  /
>                            (^  ))))
>                             ~_((((()
>                             /  ))))))

glue your pussy to a pipe then, willya...

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if in doubt, suck me
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Mel <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> ASCII art 20 Dec 2001 07:47 · permalink
On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 05:32:28 -0000, in alt.ascii-art you wrote:
>On 2001-12-19 me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za said:
>   >shut the fuck up, bitch...
>   >no one is going to ask your permission if they want to fuck you...
>   >they're just going to rape yer bitch ass...
-
Annie Ascii -- budding 14-year-old ASCII artist
                             .,,,.
 ####    ####               (~~~)))   Well, you've certainly lived up
##  ##  ##  ##              _ _ ((()  / to our negative expectations of
######  ######              (^  ))))    an African: stupid, filthy-
##  ##  ##  ##               ~_((((()   mouthed, and uncivilized. Get
##  ##  ##  ##               /  ))))))  some culture, moron. Ooga-booga!

we in Africa know you Europeans are racists... why do you think we don't
give a fuck to join the US / UK crusaded?

and yer still a fucking dickhead because you've been asked nicely to stop
posting in yer sig, but you persist - that makes you a dumb stupid cunt.

FOAD bitch!

-- 
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
if in doubt, suck me
www.AdderleyStreet.co.za

ann...@oal.com 20 Dec 2001 10:34 · permalink
On 2001-12-20 me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za said:

   >we in Africa know you Europeans are racists... why do you think we
   >don't give a fuck to join the US / UK crusaded?
   >
   >and yer still a fucking dickhead because you've been asked nicely
   >to stop posting in yer sig, but you persist - that makes you a dumb
   >stupid cunt.

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         .,,,.    Ooooh. Really impressive. Another big-mouth poser
        (~~~)))   / Goth wannabe...dishing out the crap, but not
        _ _ ((()    able to take it.  Well, TAKE IT, you no-class
        (^  ))))    slutty-vocabulary moron. And Merry Xmas, fool.
         ~_((((()   Hope Santa Claus brings you a LIFE. Hehehe!
         /  ))))))

I don't believe mel wanted to get spammed by putting NOSPAM whithin his
email address. so I took it out for him:

me...@adderleystreet.co.za

you really shouldn't threaten people you know, it's not very nice.

��B��

"Mel" <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> wrote in message
news:od2...@4ax.com...
| On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 05:48:30 -0600, Taliszanna <tal...@usask.ca>
sucked
| my dick and said:
| >On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:
| >> shut the fuck up, bitch...
| >> no one is going to ask your permission if they want to fuck you...
they're
| >> just going to rape yer bitch ass...
| > Nevermind the pun, but: fer fuX0rs sake, mel...
|
| and you call yerself a _GOTH_... pfffft... show me the pain, bitch!
|
| --
| smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
| if in doubt, suck me
| www.AdderleyStreet.co.za

"��BaDStylE�� �" <spa...@spam.com> wrote in message
news:9vtf8o$d33$1...@helle.btinternet.com...
> I don't believe mel wanted to get spammed by putting NOSPAM whithin his
> email address. so I took it out for him:
>
> me...@adderleystreet.co.za
>
> you really shouldn't threaten people you know, it's not very nice.

I have actually gotten spam from automatic mailers that were able to remove the
NOSPAM part.
Best name it something else.

"drsquare" <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote in message
news:p72...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:17:00 -0500, in alt.ascii-art,
>  ("DynoGuru" <dyn...@hotmail.com>) wrote:
>
> >"CeeJay" <use...@ceejay.cjb.REMOVEnet> wrote in message
> >news:3c1fd784$0$62878$edf...@dspool01.news.tele.dk...
> >> Don't sweat it - Annie will be legal age next year .. at least around
> >here.
> >> "Come to Denmark! .. meet the locals! .. have a good time!" ;)
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Heard that Denmark is famous for milk...
> >Is it true that they distribute milk through pipe, like water?
>
> I've heard hard-core porn is readily available there.

You say that like it's a BAD thing ??! *lol*

All beaches are topless  beaches too .. Ahh it's a glorious country !
The topless part is optional though .. no one will look at you weird if you wear
a top while bathing .. except if you happend to be male ;)

> > >> "Come to Denmark! .. meet the locals! .. have a good time!" ;)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >Heard that Denmark is famous for milk...
> > >Is it true that they distribute milk through pipe, like water?
> >
> > I've heard hard-core porn is readily available there.
>
> It is. In fact, they distribute it through pipes, like water.

That is actually true .. only we call it CABLE ;)

"Mel" <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> wrote in message
news:ar5...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 05:32:28 -0000, in alt.ascii-art you wrote:
> >On 2001-12-19 me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za said:
> >   >shut the fuck up, bitch...
> >   >no one is going to ask your permission if they want to fuck you...
> >   >they're just going to rape yer bitch ass...
> -
> Annie Ascii -- budding 14-year-old ASCII artist
>                              .,,,.
>  ####    ####               (~~~)))   Well, you've certainly lived up
> ##  ##  ##  ##              _ _ ((()  / to our negative expectations of
> ######  ######              (^  ))))    an African: stupid, filthy-
> ##  ##  ##  ##               ~_((((()   mouthed, and uncivilized. Get
> ##  ##  ##  ##               /  ))))))  some culture, moron. Ooga-booga!
>
> we in Africa know you Europeans are racists...

Annie is a merican I believe

> why do you think we don't
> give a fuck to join the US / UK crusaded?
>
> and yer still a fucking dickhead because you've been asked nicely to stop
> posting in yer sig, but you persist - that makes you a dumb stupid cunt.
>
> FOAD bitch!

I remember a saying ..
"When you speak of others , you are really telling who YOU are"
Seems apropriate here

"CeeJay" <use...@ceejay.cjb.REMOVEnet> skrev i meddelandet
news:3c226051$0$35609$edf...@dspool01.news.tele.dk...
>
> > > >> "Come to Denmark! .. meet the locals! .. have a good time!" ;)
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >Heard that Denmark is famous for milk...
> > > >Is it true that they distribute milk through pipe, like water?
> > >
> > > I've heard hard-core porn is readily available there.
> >
> > It is. In fact, they distribute it through pipes, like water.
>
> That is actually true .. only we call it CABLE ;)

Yay! You got the joke! :)

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CeeJay <use...@ceejay.cjb.REMOVEnet> ASCII art 20 Dec 2001 23:23 · permalink
"Magnus Wibeck" <mag...@telia.com> wrote in message
news:3C2...@telia.com...
> CeeJay wrote:
> >
> > A lot of it is exported too .. f.x you can't buy good cheese in Sweden or
> > Germany and if you can it's imported from Denmark.
>
> I object!
> In Sweden, we have great cheese.
(http://www.cheese.com/countrystep2.asp?Country=Sweden)

I object to your objection ! :)
I have tasted many swedish cheeses and I have yet to taste a good cheese.
Hushallsost will do when used in food like lasagna or spagetti , but I would
prefer a danish cheese any day.

> At least semi-hard cheese,

I prefer semi-hard cheese too. Cheese should be semi-hard and not wet to the
touch .. when it's best IMO.

> as for the soft ones I gladly
> give it to the Danes

I have not tasted swedish soft cheese ..as I did not dare after trying swedish
semi-hard cheese.
But I have tasted soft danish and french cheese and I do agree that it's not for
everybody.
I like the taste of the soft core in a brie .. especially when it's slightly
melted , but I do not eat the "crust" as some do .. my mother thinks that is the
best part but I strongly disagree.

> and the mouldy ones, well, who would
> want to eat 'em? (Except the French, but who counts them anyway?

I don't eat mouldy cheese myself but I can see why some likes them .. it is an
aquired taste - But there is definatly a market for this kind of cheese .. I
just won't buy it.

> and possibly the Danes because they have killed off their taste buds
> with smoking too many cigarettes).

I don't smoke myself and I don't see the Danes should have a reputation of
smoking to much .. I didn't they (we) did.
It's a disgusting addiction that severely damages your health or in the worst
senario kills you in a early age.
And what is worse .. unlike other addictions this also affects the people around
the addicted as they are subject to the harmful smoke emitted by the smoker.

I have a very low physical tolerance to cigarettesmoke and find it very hard to
breathe, and my eyes water when Im subjected to it.. most likely because I was
subjected to it at an early age.
My father smoked but thankfully stopped since he came very close to dying at the
age of 50, he is now doing much better today .. in fact he is in excellent
health .. unlike his brother , my uncle who we burried a few month ago.
His smoking gave him cancer in the tongue .. cutting of parts of his tongue did
not stop it - My uncle lived to be 51 (though I would hardly call the last years
living .. more like surviving). R.I.P.
His son will never touch a cigarette.

>
>      |\._
>      | \ ^._
>      | o\   ^._
>      |   \ O   ^._
>      | O  \ __o____\
>       \  o |       |
>        \   |       |
>         \ O|       |
>          \ |       |
>           \|_______|
>
> /Magnus W

Drawing the kind of cheese you don't like ? :)

         _.oooo
      ,o8P"'' |
     dP'   _  |
   ,8P  _ (_) |
  ,8'-)(_)    |
  dP  _    (- |
  8b (_)  _   '----------d8
  Y8     (_)  -)   _ -)  8P
  `8L    _    _   (_)   d8'
    Yb  (_)(-(_)       dP
     Y8o_        (- _o8P
  CJ   `P8oo.___,oo8P'
          `'"""""''

Here is a Pizza .. because I began to wonder what kind of cheese a Mozzarella
is.
I like it on some pizza , but isn't it a mouldly cheese ?

"drsquare" <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote in message
news:tus...@4ax.com...

> >> >> "Come to Denmark! .. meet the locals! .. have a good time!" ;)

> >> >Heard that Denmark is famous for milk...
> >> >Is it true that they distribute milk through pipe, like water?
> >>
> >> I've heard hard-core porn is readily available there.
> >
> >You say that like it's a BAD thing ??! *lol*
>
> Erm, when did I ever imply it was a bad thing?

You didn't - It was just that some people would take that as a bad thing and as
your post was without a smilie at the end I asumed that it was hinted that it
was a bad thing.

> >All beaches are topless  beaches too
>
> Aren't most beaches topless?

Not in the more puritan states and/or countries... some places it even illegal
to be topless.
In puritan american states f.x. ONLY the MALE population is allowed to be
topless in the beach !
Outragous ! .. Women should have the same rights to be topless as men do - It's
sexual discrimination !

It IS however illegal to be completely naked on most beaches here , but we still
see streakers/nudists on public beaches now and then .. and since it's not
really that shocking most people just shake their head and either look away or
stare - It hardly ever gets reported ... people just don't care that much about
it.

> >.. Ahh it's a glorious country !
> >The topless part is optional though
>
> Damn.

*lol*

Yeah .. but it works out fine since the most likely to be topless have something
to be proud of , and want to flaunt it.

Who was it that first said " If you got it , flaunt it " ?
It was a woman .. that much I'm sure of

<ann...@oal.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:u20...@corp.supernews.com...
> --
> Annie Ascii -- budding 14-year-old ASCII artist
>                              .,,,.
>  ####    ####               (~~~)))   Well, you've certainly lived up
> ##  ##  ##  ##              _ _ ((()  / to our negative expectations of
> ######  ######              (^  ))))    an African: stupid, filthy-
> ##  ##  ##  ##               ~_((((()   mouthed, and uncivilized. Get
> ##  ##  ##  ##               /  ))))))  some culture, moron. Ooga-booga!

You did it again.
you know that you americans have a antidiscriminating clause ( dunno the real
right word ) and i think it's a good thing, so take care of it.
what you said, is just said by dumbasses.

--
Lasse

"Mel" <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za>
> we in Africa know you Europeans are racists

no we aren't!!!
You are the one, cos you discriminate the europeans.

--
Lasse

Magnus Wibeck <mag...@telia.com> ASCII art 21 Dec 2001 12:11 · permalink
CeeJay wrote:
> 
> "Magnus Wibeck" <mag...@telia.com> wrote in message
> news:3C2...@telia.com...
> > CeeJay wrote:
> > >
> > > A lot of it is exported too .. f.x you can't buy good cheese in Sweden or
> > > Germany and if you can it's imported from Denmark.
> >
> > I object!
> > In Sweden, we have great cheese.
> (http://www.cheese.com/countrystep2.asp?Country=Sweden)
> 
> I object to your objection ! :)

Ok, to each his own, I think we can call it a truce..
Scandinavian cheese rules!

> I don't smoke myself and I don't see the Danes should have a reputation of
> smoking to much .. I didn't they (we) did.

[Wise things about smoking snipped]
I totally agree, both my maternal grand parents died from tobacco
related cancer.

http://tcrc-profiles.globalink.org/dk_tcp.html
http://tcrc-profiles.globalink.org/se_tcp.html

Annual cigarette comsumption 1995 per capita:
Sweden:   1202
Denmark:  1909  (roughly 1.5 times as many)

Death by smoking: per 1000 inhabitants in 1995
Sweden:  males 4.8 females 2.3
Denmark: males 7.3 females 5.6

All swedes I know, when having been to Denmark, say
something about 'how much they smoke'..

> >
> >      |\._
> >      | \ ^._
> >      | o\   ^._
> >      |   \ O   ^._
> >      | O  \ __o____\
> >       \  o |       |
> >        \   |       |
> >         \ O|       |
> >          \ |       |
> >           \|_______|mw
> >
> > /Magnus W
> 
> Drawing the kind of cheese you don't like ? :)

No, it's not mould, it's holes.. It's a greve...
But now I see that it looks more like a Danablu (Danish Blue) (?)

>          _.oooo
>       ,o8P"'' |
>      dP'   _  |
>    ,8P  _ (_) |
>   ,8'-)(_)    |
>   dP  _    (- |
>   8b (_)  _   '----------d8
>   Y8     (_)  -)   _ -)  8P
>   `8L    _    _   (_)   d8'
>     Yb  (_)(-(_)       dP
>      Y8o_        (- _o8P
>   CJ   `P8oo.___,oo8P'
>           `'"""""''

Yummy! That reminds me, I haven't eaten any breakfast yet..

OBAscii:

  |-^--^-*--|
  \=========/        ______
mw :_______:  U---- L______I
------------------------------

(I'm not so good at this, esp. when in a hurry, it's
a bowl of milk and cereal, a spoon, and a cheese sandwich..)

/Magnus W

Donderfliegen <ppu...@chello.balls.nl> ASCII art 21 Dec 2001 20:01 · permalink
On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 00:23:03 +0100, "CeeJay" <use...@ceejay.cjb.REMOVEnet>
provoked the following text:

>> > A lot of it is exported too .. f.x you can't buy good cheese in Sweden or
>> > Germany and if you can it's imported from Denmark.
>>
>> I object!
>> In Sweden, we have great cheese.
>(http://www.cheese.com/countrystep2.asp?Country=Sweden)
>
>I object to your objection ! :)
>I have tasted many swedish cheeses and I have yet to taste a good cheese.
>Hushallsost will do when used in food like lasagna or spagetti , but I would
>prefer a danish cheese any day.

HAH! Dutch cheese wins every time, hands down! :-)
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Cthulhu <noo...@nowhere.it> 21 Dec 2001 22:31 · permalink
drsquare <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:

> No, they are racist. Especially the Italians.

Why do you say that, stinking british?

	curiosamente,
	   Cthulhu

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Poster <Pos...@NoSpam.net> 22 Dec 2001 05:48 · permalink
NO...
They are NOT OPEN to foreigners...very close...but NOT RACISTS



"drsquare" <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote in message
news:tkc...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:53:02 +0100, in alt.ascii-art,
>  ("Lasse Poeppler" <l...@virtain.com>) wrote:
>
> >"Mel" <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za>
> >> we in Africa know you Europeans are racists
> >
> >no we aren't!!!
> >You are the one, cos you discriminate the europeans.
>
> No, they are racist. Especially the Italians.

Poster <Pos...@NoSpam.net> 22 Dec 2001 05:52 · permalink
NO!! Not all beaches are topless....

In some places...it is even illegal to go out in SHORTS ...
NOOO...Wait... that is not the only thing
the best is still to come...even for MEN...  ;)

Forget Topless beaches... :(

Nice is a NICE beach..for one that I know of and have been to...

Italian Beaches specially on the East Coast...Been there in
Winter...No one would have been CRAZY to go Topless... :(

?:)

"drsquare" <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote in message
news:tus...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 23:04:49 +0100, in alt.ascii-art,
>  ("CeeJay" <use...@ceejay.cjb.REMOVEnet>) wrote:
>
> >"drsquare" <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:p72...@4ax.com...
> >> On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:17:00 -0500, in alt.ascii-art,
> >>  ("DynoGuru" <dyn...@hotmail.com>) wrote:
> >>
> >> >"CeeJay" <use...@ceejay.cjb.REMOVEnet> wrote in message
> >> >news:3c1fd784$0$62878$edf...@dspool01.news.tele.dk...
> >> >> Don't sweat it - Annie will be legal age next year .. at least
around
> >> >here.
> >> >> "Come to Denmark! .. meet the locals! .. have a good time!" ;)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Heard that Denmark is famous for milk...
> >> >Is it true that they distribute milk through pipe, like water?
> >>
> >> I've heard hard-core porn is readily available there.
> >
> >You say that like it's a BAD thing ??! *lol*
>
> Erm, when did I ever imply it was a bad thing?
>
> >All beaches are topless  beaches too
>
> Aren't most beaches topless?
>
> >.. Ahh it's a glorious country !
> >The topless part is optional though
>
> Damn.
>
>

On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:48:38 +0100, "Lasse Poeppler" <l...@virtain.com> sucked
my dick and said:
><ann...@oal.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>news:u20...@corp.supernews.com...
>> --
>> Annie Ascii -- budding 14-year-old ASCII artist
>>                              .,,,.
>>  ####    ####               (~~~)))   Well, you've certainly lived up
>> ##  ##  ##  ##              _ _ ((()  / to our negative expectations of
>> ######  ######              (^  ))))    an African: stupid, filthy-
>> ##  ##  ##  ##               ~_((((()   mouthed, and uncivilized. Get
>> ##  ##  ##  ##               /  ))))))  some culture, moron. Ooga-booga!
>You did it again.
>you know that you americans have a antidiscriminating clause ( dunno the real
>right word ) and i think it's a good thing, so take care of it.
>what you said, is just said by dumbasses.

she's prolly some redneck white trash's daughter... if not, she certainly
can apply for the position...

put some people under pressure and all their racial prejudices come pouring
out... shame to see it come out of a 14yo though...

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On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:53:02 +0100, "Lasse Poeppler" <l...@virtain.com> sucked
my dick and said:
>"Mel" <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za>
>> we in Africa know you Europeans are racists
>no we aren't!!!
>You are the one, cos you discriminate the europeans.

I don't discriminate against Europeans... I am white myself... but it has
become very clear to us living in South Africa how racist the European and
Americans are in their outlook towards Africa as a whole...

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ano...@bogus_address.con ASCII art 22 Dec 2001 20:59 · permalink
><ann...@oal.com> wrote:
>
> > > --
> > > Annie Ascii -- budding 14-year-old ASCII artist
> > >                           .,,,.
> > >  ####    ####            (~~~)))   Well, you've certainly lived up
> > > ##  ##  ##  ##           _ _ ((()  / to our negative expectations of
> > > ######  ######           (^  ))))    an African: stupid, filthy-
> > > ##  ##  ##  ##            ~_((((()   mouthed, and uncivilized. Get
> > > ##  ##  ##  ##            / ))))))  some culture, moron. Ooga-booga!
>
>"Lasse Poeppler" said:
>
> > you know that you americans have a antidiscriminating clause
> > (dunno the real right word) and i think it's a good thing, so
> > take care of it. what you said, is just said by dumbasses.
>
>me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za said:
>
>she's prolly some redneck white trash's daughter... if not, she
>certainly can apply for the position...
>
>put some people under pressure and all their racial prejudices come
>pouring out... shame to see it come out of a 14yo though...

Where did Annie mention 'race?'

She didn't.  She said 'African.'  That refers to an inhabitant
of a geographical area, not to a 'race.'

Are there not Caucasians living in Africa?  And Asians?  And
East Indians?  And Arabs?

The fact that you would interpret the mention of Africa as
'racial' says more about =you= than it does about her.

Don't let 'political correctness' turn your brain to mush.

ObASCII:

                       %%%%%%
                      %%%% = =
                      %%C    >
                       _)' _( .' ,
                    __/ |_/\   " *. o
                   /` \_\ \/     %`= '_  .
                  /  )   \/|      .^',*. ,
                 /' /-   o/       - " % '_
                /\_/     <       = , ^ ~ .
                )_o|----'|          .`  '
            ___// (_  - (\
           ///-(    \'   \\ b'ger

> >> we in Africa know you Europeans are racists
> >no we aren't!!!
> >You are the one, cos you discriminate the europeans.
>
> I don't discriminate against Europeans... I am white myself...

Colour have nothing to do with it.
At least I don't sympatize with someone just because I learn they are the same
colour as I am.
White people hold the record for some of the most terrible events in history.
(that doesn'nt mean that differently coloured people haven't done bad things
too)

> but it has
> become very clear to us living in South Africa how racist the European and
> Americans are in their outlook towards Africa as a whole...

No but you stereotype europeans.
Europe isn't just one country, one nation , one people (under god) ..
It's many different countries , many different nations , many different cultures
and beliefs, people of different races, people with good cheese .. people with
not so good cheese ( *lol* sorry Magnus I HAD to do it ;) )
While in america you can travel thusands of miles and still be around people
with a culture similar or the exact same as your own , who speak the same
language as you ...  in Europe you can drive 20 miles or take a 15 minute
boattrip and EVERYTHING have changed .. the landscape , the people , the
language , the culture , the music.. etc.

No two people are alike.
Not everyone are racists.

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 05:48:30 -0600, Taliszanna <tal...@usask.ca> sucked
> my dick and said:
> >	Nevermind the pun, but: fer fuX0rs sake, mel...
> 
> and you call yerself a _GOTH_... pfffft... show me the pain, bitch!

	Oh, I've got no problem with pain.  It's the fact that you're
saying this to a 14 yr. old, that's all.  But if you want PAIN, I'm sure
that something can be arranged. ;D

=====================
      ,qppppp.      
     qMMM____;M    ~ Taliszanna WhiteCrow ~  (a.k.a Jessie Brown OR
     qMMM.^^(Mp    Her Mighty Erisian Po*piness, Pope Dances-with-Earwax)
    .qMMM__=/Mp _/ http://talis_white_crow.tripod.com/
    MMMMM_',MMp      

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:

> FOAD bitch!

	"FOAD"?  Wazzat?

================
      ,qppppp.      
     qMMM____;M    ~ Taliszanna WhiteCrow ~  (a.k.a Jessie Brown OR
     qMMM.^^(Mp    Her Mighty Erisian Po*piness, Pope Dances-with-Earwax)
    .qMMM__=/Mp _/ http://talis_white_crow.tripod.com/
    MMMMM_',MMp      

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 ann...@oal.com wrote:

>          .,,,.    Ooooh. Really impressive. Another big-mouth poser
>         (~~~)))   / Goth wannabe...dishing out the crap, but not
>         _ _ ((()    able to take it.  Well, TAKE IT, you no-class
>         (^  ))))    slutty-vocabulary moron. And Merry Xmas, fool.
>          ~_((((()   Hope Santa Claus brings you a LIFE. Hehehe!
>          /  ))))))
> 

	Annie, educate yourself.  Mel doesn't come close to goth
wannabe.  Bring goth into it again and I'll have a few words for you 
myself.

============================
      ,qppppp.      
     qMMM____;M    ~ Taliszanna WhiteCrow ~  (a.k.a Jessie Brown OR
     qMMM.^^(Mp    Her Mighty Erisian Po*piness, Pope Dances-with-Earwax)
    .qMMM__=/Mp _/ http://talis_white_crow.tripod.com/
    MMMMM_',MMp      

On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 05:19:30 -0600, Taliszanna
<tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:
> 
> > FOAD bitch!
> 
> 	"FOAD"?  Wazzat?

F*ck off and die.

HTH, HAND.

Cheers,
Philip
-- 
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That really is my address; no need to remove anything to reply.
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 20:59:12 -0000, anonymous@bogus_address.con sucked my
dick and said:
>><ann...@oal.com> wrote:
>> > > Annie Ascii -- budding 14-year-old ASCII artist
>> > >                           .,,,.
>> > >  ####    ####            (~~~)))   Well, you've certainly lived up
>> > > ##  ##  ##  ##           _ _ ((()  / to our negative expectations of
>> > > ######  ######           (^  ))))    an African: stupid, filthy-
>> > > ##  ##  ##  ##            ~_((((()   mouthed, and uncivilized. Get
>> > > ##  ##  ##  ##            / ))))))  some culture, moron. Ooga-booga!
>>"Lasse Poeppler" said:
>> > you know that you americans have a antidiscriminating clause
>> > (dunno the real right word) and i think it's a good thing, so
>> > take care of it. what you said, is just said by dumbasses.
>>me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za said:
>>she's prolly some redneck white trash's daughter... if not, she
>>certainly can apply for the position...
>>put some people under pressure and all their racial prejudices come
>>pouring out... shame to see it come out of a 14yo though...
>Where did Annie mention 'race?'

she didn't have to... African means black... even in America...

>She didn't.  She said 'African.'  That refers to an inhabitant
>of a geographical area, not to a 'race.'

yeah right... we know exactly what is meant when Europeans and Yanks start
ranting about Africans... even in Africa, African refers to a black
person... for historial reasons, whites are still referred to as
Europeans...

>Are there not Caucasians living in Africa?  And Asians?  And
>East Indians?  And Arabs?
>The fact that you would interpret the mention of Africa as
>'racial' says more about =you= than it does about her.

you are simply ignorant...

>Don't let 'political correctness' turn your brain to mush.

you are clueless...

>ObASCII:
>
>                       %%%%%%
>                      %%%% = =
>                      %%C    >
>                       _)' _( .' ,
>                    __/ |_/\   " *. o
>                   /` \_\ \/     %`= '_  .
>                  /  )   \/|      .^',*. ,
>                 /' /-   o/       - " % '_
>                /\_/     <       = , ^ ~ .
>                )_o|----'|          .`  '
>            ___// (_  - (\
>           ///-(    \'   \\ b'ger

puke on you too...

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On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 01:18:03 +0100, "CeeJay" <use...@ceejay.cjb.REMOVEnet>
sucked my dick and said:
>> >> we in Africa know you Europeans are racists
>> >no we aren't!!!
>> >You are the one, cos you discriminate the europeans.
>> I don't discriminate against Europeans... I am white myself...
>Colour have nothing to do with it.
>At least I don't sympatize with someone just because I learn they are the same
>colour as I am.
>White people hold the record for some of the most terrible events in history.
>(that doesn'nt mean that differently coloured people haven't done bad things
>too)
>> but it has
>> become very clear to us living in South Africa how racist the European and
>> Americans are in their outlook towards Africa as a whole...
>No but you stereotype europeans.
>Europe isn't just one country, one nation , one people (under god) ..
>It's many different countries , many different nations , many different cultures
>and beliefs, people of different races, people with good cheese .. people with
>not so good cheese ( *lol* sorry Magnus I HAD to do it ;) )
>While in america you can travel thusands of miles and still be around people
>with a culture similar or the exact same as your own , who speak the same
>language as you ...  in Europe you can drive 20 miles or take a 15 minute
>boattrip and EVERYTHING have changed .. the landscape , the people , the
>language , the culture , the music.. etc.
>No two people are alike.
>Not everyone are racists.

what you say doesn't matter... there are plenty of Europeans and Americans
who regard Africa as a junk pile and write us off...

if that is not racist, then I don't know what is... Annie is only one of
many who think like her...

In Britain South Africans are not even allowed to donate blood because they
think we are an AIDS ridden cesspool... which of course is again racist...

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On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 05:16:29 -0600, Taliszanna
<tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> sucked my dick and said:
>On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 05:48:30 -0600, Taliszanna <tal...@usask.ca> sucked
>> my dick and said:
>> >	Nevermind the pun, but: fer fuX0rs sake, mel...
>> and you call yerself a _GOTH_... pfffft... show me the pain, bitch!
>	Oh, I've got no problem with pain.  It's the fact that you're
>saying this to a 14 yr. old, that's all.

LOL! you really think that's a 14yo!!!??? Maybe, maybe not... who fucking
knows... all I know is that I often read reports of FBI agents staking out
various spots on the Internet posing as girls and boys of various ages
hoping to lure some adult in search of sex they regard as taboo...

anyway even if she is 14yo, she's an adult in the biological sense... it's
only society that would keep her a child until she is 18-21...

> But if you want PAIN, I'm sure that something can be arranged. ;D

if you stayed in Cape Town, South Africa I would take you up on your
offer... however I doubt you would go through with it anyway... it's easy to
talk on here... but people in RL prove very different in my experience...

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On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 05:19:30 -0600, Taliszanna
<tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> sucked my dick and said:
>On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:
>> FOAD bitch!
>	"FOAD"?  Wazzat?

fuck off and die...

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On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 05:30:42 -0600, Taliszanna
<tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> sucked my dick and said:
>On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 ann...@oal.com wrote:
>>          .,,,.    Ooooh. Really impressive. Another big-mouth poser
>>         (~~~)))   / Goth wannabe...dishing out the crap, but not
>>         _ _ ((()    able to take it.  Well, TAKE IT, you no-class
>>         (^  ))))    slutty-vocabulary moron. And Merry Xmas, fool.
>>          ~_((((()   Hope Santa Claus brings you a LIFE. Hehehe!
>>          /  ))))))
>	Annie, educate yourself.  Mel doesn't come close to goth
>wannabe.  Bring goth into it again and I'll have a few words for you 
>myself.

yeah... i'm not goth by any stretch of the imagination... sadist, rapist,
murderer are prolly more accurate...

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On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 16:27:27 +0100, Philip Newton
<pne...@newton.digitalspace.net> sucked my dick and said:
>On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 05:19:30 -0600, Taliszanna
><tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:
>> > FOAD bitch!
>> 	"FOAD"?  Wazzat?
>F*ck off and die.

lemme guess... you use net nanny...?

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ann...@oal.com 24 Dec 2001 00:04 · permalink
On 2001-12-23 Taliszanna said:

   >Annie, educate yourself.  Mel doesn't come close to goth
   >wannabe.  Bring goth into it again and I'll have a few words
   >for you myself.

    .,,,.
   (~~~)))   Goth, Goth, Goth! Hehe! C'mon now, Tali...I can tell from
   _ _ ((()  / the way you write that you're reasonably intelligent.
   (^  ))))    Surely you must see that the whole 'Goth' thing is a
    ~_((((()   pathetic affectation. It seems to attract losers, geeks,
    /  ))))))  malcontents and psychos who feel a need to belong to
               some kind of group that's as disaffected as THEY are.
               It's like the hippies in the '60s, or the beatniks in the
               '50s. 'Goth' really does suck, Tali. The underlying phil-
               osophy is barren...and an intelligent person can't take it
               seriously for very long. I'm certain that you realize that
               ...or WILL realize it, ultimately.

On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 00:04:14 -0000, ann...@oal.com sucked my dick and
said:
>On 2001-12-23 Taliszanna said:
>   >Annie, educate yourself.  Mel doesn't come close to goth
>   >wannabe.  Bring goth into it again and I'll have a few words
>   >for you myself.
>    .,,,.
>   (~~~)))   Goth, Goth, Goth! Hehe! C'mon now, Tali...I can tell from
>   _ _ ((()  / the way you write that you're reasonably intelligent.
>   (^  ))))    Surely you must see that the whole 'Goth' thing is a
>    ~_((((()   pathetic affectation. It seems to attract losers, geeks,
>    /  ))))))  malcontents and psychos who feel a need to belong to
>               some kind of group that's as disaffected as THEY are.
>               It's like the hippies in the '60s, or the beatniks in the
>               '50s. 'Goth' really does suck, Tali. The underlying phil-
>               osophy is barren...and an intelligent person can't take it
>               seriously for very long. I'm certain that you realize that
>               ...or WILL realize it, ultimately.

heh heh heh... ROFLOL!!!

aaaah I love it when 50yo men pose as 14yo's...

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On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, CeeJay wrote:

> You didn't - It was just that some people would take that as a bad thing and as
> your post was without a smilie at the end I asumed that it was hinted that it
> was a bad thing.
> 
     Ah, but CeeJay... when you assume you make an *ass* out of *u* and
*me*.

-Tali

On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Lasse Poeppler wrote:

> "Mel" <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za>
> > we in Africa know you Europeans are racists
> 
> no we aren't!!!
> You are the one, cos you discriminate the europeans.

	"Help! Help! I'm being repressed!" 
                          -- Monty Python & The Holy Grail

On 21 Dec 2001, Cthulhu wrote:

>    Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu http://www.rlyeh.it/ wgah'nagl fhtgan!
> 		     <cthulhu (at) rlyeh (dot) it>

	Through Mr.Cthulhu's website I've found the following groovy link:
http://www.asciibabes.com/

Can't say that I hold anything for the Necronomicon, however.

- TAL
http://talis_white_crow.tripod.com/

On Sat, 22 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:

> I don't discriminate against Europeans... I am white myself... but it has
> become very clear to us living in South Africa how racist the European and
> Americans are in their outlook towards Africa as a whole...

	That is too bad...  Here in my small city of Saskatoon, (located 
in Saskatchewan-- a province in middle Canada), we don't honestly care
all that much as a whole about whether someone is black or not. It's more
about whether you are red or white as those are two largest racial 
factions.  See, you can be East Indian, Chinese, Black, Japanese or
Malaysian and nobody cares but if your ancestors were the people who were 
here first, well damn, can't have that-- you must automatically be of low
class, committing robberies and murder and rip off the System in yer 
spare time...  

        Moving on, if you are white, then you must be rich and you must
hate all Native folks. You couldn't possibly have fair skin and also Cree
grandparents, eh? --Or your best friend couldn't possibly be Nishnaabe
Indian.  You couldn't have an Algonkin grandmother several generations
back and still be proud of ALL of your ancestors...  Oh yeah, and lastly, 
if you are from the Middle East, you are thought of as a terrorist
immediately. My friend Sara-- who is 1/2 British and 1/2 Egyptian-- gets
that crap all the time.  It's BS.  Aside from all of that, nobody really
cares.  We just hope you'll pretend to love everyone like we do until
you're gone.

        Racism-- every group has it, regardless of what may be said in
objection to that statement. The proof is in the pudding... and it all
seems especially ridiculous to me, having been Ba'hai as a child.  The
Ba'hai encourage all lands and people accepting each other and working
together.

===========
Talis,
wishing everyone a happy late-december holiday season if they celebrate
anything in particular at this time of the year! (:>

               -= http://talis_white_Crow.tripod.com/ =-

On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, Philip Newton wrote:

> HTH, HAND.

HTH= Hope that helps?
HAND = ?

-TAL

On Mon, 24 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:

> what you say doesn't matter... there are plenty of Europeans and Americans
> who regard Africa as a junk pile and write us off...

	It's true that there are many who write your continent off due to
miseducation or none at all about the fact that it is not all pot-bellied
children running around and a lack of clean water.  The media is much to
blame for it, although I will not say completely.

> In Britain South Africans are not even allowed to donate blood because they
> think we are an AIDS ridden cesspool... which of course is again racist...

	No, just uneducated.

TAL

On Mon, 24 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 05:16:29 -0600, Taliszanna
> <tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> sucked my dick and said:
> 
> LOL! you really think that's a 14yo!!!??? 

	I haven't been yet given evidence that she is. I leave room for
possibility in either direction, but don't find it necessary to be
offensive in case it is a 14 yr old.

> anyway even if she is 14yo, she's an adult in the biological sense... it's
> only society that would keep her a child until she is 18-21...

	You don't think that many 14 yr. olds are child-like in any
sense?  Even mentally?  Emotionally?


> > But if you want PAIN, I'm sure that something can be arranged. ;D
> 
> if you stayed in Cape Town, South Africa I would take you up on your
> offer... however I doubt you would go through with it anyway... it's easy to
> talk on here... but people in RL prove very different in my experience...

	Heh, when did I say that I would be taking part in the giving of
pain?  I said that "something can be arranged".

-TAL

On Mon, 24 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 16:27:27 +0100, Philip Newton
> <pne...@newton.digitalspace.net> sucked my dick and said:
> >On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 05:19:30 -0600, Taliszanna
> ><tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:
> >> > FOAD bitch!
> >> 	"FOAD"?  Wazzat?
> >F*ck off and die.
> 
> lemme guess... you use net nanny...?
> 

	Who and why would you ask that? I use no seach filter.

TAL

On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 ann...@oal.com wrote:

>     .,,,.
>    (~~~)))   Goth, Goth, Goth! Hehe! C'mon now, Tali...I can tell from
>    _ _ ((()  / the way you write that you're reasonably intelligent.

	You noticed!  I'm so touched.


>    (^  ))))    Surely you must see that the whole 'Goth' thing is a
>     ~_((((()   pathetic affectation. It seems to attract losers, geeks,
>     /  ))))))  malcontents and psychos who feel a need to belong to
>                some kind of group that's as disaffected as THEY are.

	So which do you suppose I am?  Thanks for your vote of confidence.


>                It's like the hippies in the '60s, or the beatniks in the
>                '50s. 'Goth' really does suck, Tali. 

	You can have your opinion-- that's your right-- I don't agree with
it, however.  I've think that through whatever changes of self I happen to 
experience in life I probably always will always remain such.  It is one 
of the only things that has never changed about me.  I suppose that
someone who doesn't have any experience with actually belonging to the
gothic subculture and who has absolutely nothing real to base her views of
it upon *would* be the one to hold a low opinion.  Such people tend to let
the Media fill their head with cotton so that they don't have to actually 
explore for themselves what the subject of their criticism is all
about... because it's easier to judge a whole group of people without
doing any work to educate oneself.


	I don't find the need to wander around dissing a group of people
for their music or style, though you seem to find in such some sort of
reward.  If you ask me, *that's* worthy of pity.  Gold star for you,
annie...

> The underlying philosophy is barren...

	Oh, you think you know what that is?  Care to tell me about it?  

> and an intelligent person can't take it seriously for very long. 

	Not so.  I am evidence to the contrary.

> I'm certain that you realize that...or WILL realize it, ultimately.

	Amazing, she can tell me my future too, folks!  Your high horse is
imagined, annie.  Come down from that tree before you fall and land flat 
on your ass.  You've impressed no one by taking such a transparent 
elistist attitude.  You've demonstrated a quaint lack of class for us all.


- Talis

On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 05:25:57 -0600, Taliszanna <tal...@chem4823.usask.ca>
tried to confuse everyone with this message:

>On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, Philip Newton wrote:
>
>> HTH, HAND.
>
>HTH= Hope that helps?
Happy to help.

>HAND = ?

Have a nice day.

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Donderfliegen <ppu...@chello.balls.nl> ASCII art 24 Dec 2001 19:07 · permalink
On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 00:04:14 -0000, ann...@oal.com provoked the
following text:

>   >Annie, educate yourself.  Mel doesn't come close to goth
>   >wannabe.  Bring goth into it again and I'll have a few words
>   >for you myself.
>
>    .,,,.
>   (~~~)))   Goth, Goth, Goth! Hehe! C'mon now, Tali...I can tell from
>   _ _ ((()  / the way you write that you're reasonably intelligent.
>   (^  ))))    Surely you must see that the whole 'Goth' thing is a
>    ~_((((()   pathetic affectation. It seems to attract losers, geeks,
>    /  ))))))  malcontents and psychos who feel a need to belong to
>               some kind of group that's as disaffected as THEY are.
>               It's like the hippies in the '60s, or the beatniks in the
>               '50s. 

You forget about the Punx in the 70's and 80's and the gabber of the 90's.

>'Goth' really does suck, Tali. The underlying phil-
>               osophy is barren...

Please explain the underlying philosophy to me, Annie.
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Donderfliegen <ppu...@chello.balls.nl> ASCII art 24 Dec 2001 19:19 · permalink
On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 01:43:02 +0200, Mel <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za>
provoked the following text:

>>No two people are alike.
>>Not everyone are racists.
>
>what you say doesn't matter... there are plenty of Europeans and Americans
>who regard Africa as a junk pile and write us off...
>
>if that is not racist, then I don't know what is... 

Here's your clue-by-four:

rac�ism n. 
1- The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or
ability and that a particular race is superior to others. 
2- Discrimination or prejudice based on race. 

and

racism n 
1: the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to
members of other races 
2: discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race

Now about the situation you describe; that is:
1- Prejudice based on geography. If you want to put a name to it, call it
geographism.
2- Ignorance, brought forth from the belief that all (or at least most) of
Africa is underdeveloped.
3- Africa is for a large part a politically unstable continent, that's why
many people don't take that continent seriously.

>Annie is only one of many who think like her...
>
>In Britain South Africans are not even allowed to donate blood because they
>think we are an AIDS ridden cesspool... which of course is again racist...

No, it is fear caused by the many reports about the fast pace AIDS is
spreading on the African continent. A lot of those reports come from South
Africa, which gives them cause to fear south african blood.
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"Taliszanna" <tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> wrote in message
news:Pin...@chem4823.usask.ca...
> On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, CeeJay wrote:
>
> > You didn't - It was just that some people would take that as a bad thing and
as
> > your post was without a smilie at the end I asumed that it was hinted that
it
> > was a bad thing.
> >
>      Ah, but CeeJay... when you assume you make an *ass* out of *u* and
> *me*.

Bahh :) a rather poor pun. (besides I spelled it wrong the first time , so your
pun really didn't work)
And I had to interpert his statement one way or the other to relate to it ..
So I had to assume.

(Annie said:)
> >  Goth, Goth, Goth! Hehe! C'mon now, Tali...
[SNIP]
> >  It's like the hippies in the '60s, or the beatniks in the '50s.

(The artist formerly known as Peter Punk wrote :)
> You forget about the Punx in the 70's and 80's and the gabber of the 90's.

Whats a gabber ?
How about the people wearing clothes that are too big and walk funny in todays
world ?
.. what are they called btw ?

> >'Goth' really does suck, Tali. The underlying phil-
> >               osophy is barren...
>
> Please explain the underlying philosophy to me, Annie.

Is'nt it just about being different and a little mystical ?
You could call it a hobby .. putting time and money into something only a select
group understand and care about .. kind of like drawing ascii-art.

> Bizarreness is the essence of the exotic

The automatic signaturelines from TAFKAPP are often .. strangly apropriate.
Almost like if an AI was creating them.

On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 03:48:07 -0600, Taliszanna
<tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> sucked my dick and said:
>On Sat, 22 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:
>> I don't discriminate against Europeans... I am white myself... but it has
>> become very clear to us living in South Africa how racist the European and
>> Americans are in their outlook towards Africa as a whole...
>	That is too bad...  Here in my small city of Saskatoon, (located 
>in Saskatchewan-- a province in middle Canada), we don't honestly care
>all that much as a whole about whether someone is black or not. It's more
>about whether you are red or white as those are two largest racial 
>factions.  See, you can be East Indian, Chinese, Black, Japanese or
>Malaysian and nobody cares but if your ancestors were the people who were 
>here first, well damn, can't have that-- you must automatically be of low
>class, committing robberies and murder and rip off the System in yer 
>spare time...  
>        Moving on, if you are white, then you must be rich and you must
>hate all Native folks. You couldn't possibly have fair skin and also Cree
>grandparents, eh? --Or your best friend couldn't possibly be Nishnaabe
>Indian.  You couldn't have an Algonkin grandmother several generations
>back and still be proud of ALL of your ancestors...  Oh yeah, and lastly, 
>if you are from the Middle East, you are thought of as a terrorist
>immediately. My friend Sara-- who is 1/2 British and 1/2 Egyptian-- gets
>that crap all the time.  It's BS.  Aside from all of that, nobody really
>cares.  We just hope you'll pretend to love everyone like we do until
>you're gone.
>        Racism-- every group has it, regardless of what may be said in
>objection to that statement. The proof is in the pudding... and it all
>seems especially ridiculous to me, having been Ba'hai as a child.  The
>Ba'hai encourage all lands and people accepting each other and working
>together.

Well ever since Bob Mugabe's brain flipped out and he started a war on
whites in Zim, it seems the entire Western world has begun to isolate and
penalise the entire Southern Africa region... hence our rapidly declining
currency... (ZAR)...

After all the excitement in 1994 when the ANC government came to power, it
seems that it is now okay to FUCK AFRICA...

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On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 05:28:59 -0600, Taliszanna
<tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> sucked my dick and said:
>On Mon, 24 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:
>> what you say doesn't matter... there are plenty of Europeans and Americans
>> who regard Africa as a junk pile and write us off...
>	It's true that there are many who write your continent off due to
>miseducation or none at all about the fact that it is not all pot-bellied
>children running around and a lack of clean water.  The media is much to
>blame for it, although I will not say completely.

also it seems that many forget that South Africa is the most advanced
African country...

>> In Britain South Africans are not even allowed to donate blood because they
>> think we are an AIDS ridden cesspool... which of course is again racist...
>	No, just uneducated.

no... they are racist... we are talking medical people here... they cannot
claim to be uneduated... so that leaves racism...

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On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 05:32:50 -0600, Taliszanna
<tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> sucked my dick and said:
>On Mon, 24 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 05:16:29 -0600, Taliszanna
>> <tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> sucked my dick and said:
>> LOL! you really think that's a 14yo!!!??? 
>	I haven't been yet given evidence that she is. I leave room for
>possibility in either direction, but don't find it necessary to be
>offensive in case it is a 14 yr old.

if she is 14yo then I plan to be even more vile...

do you know that I jerk off will I read this group...?

>> anyway even if she is 14yo, she's an adult in the biological sense... it's
>> only society that would keep her a child until she is 18-21...
>	You don't think that many 14 yr. olds are child-like in any
>sense?  Even mentally?  Emotionally?

yes, they are childlike... with tits...

>> > But if you want PAIN, I'm sure that something can be arranged. ;D
>> if you stayed in Cape Town, South Africa I would take you up on your
>> offer... however I doubt you would go through with it anyway... it's easy to
>> talk on here... but people in RL prove very different in my experience...
>	Heh, when did I say that I would be taking part in the giving of
>pain?  I said that "something can be arranged".

typical... back peddling already... why are you so gutless...?

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On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 05:34:35 -0600, Taliszanna
<tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> sucked my dick and said:
>On Mon, 24 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 16:27:27 +0100, Philip Newton
>> <pne...@newton.digitalspace.net> sucked my dick and said:
>> >On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 05:19:30 -0600, Taliszanna
>> ><tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:
>> >> > FOAD bitch!
>> >> 	"FOAD"?  Wazzat?
>> >F*ck off and die.
>> lemme guess... you use net nanny...?
>	Who and why would you ask that? I use no seach filter.

i wasn't talking to you...

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On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 19:19:33 GMT, ppu...@chello.balls.nl (Donderfliegen)
sucked my dick and said:
>On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 01:43:02 +0200, Mel <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za>
>provoked the following text:
>>>No two people are alike.
>>>Not everyone are racists.
>>what you say doesn't matter... there are plenty of Europeans and Americans
>>who regard Africa as a junk pile and write us off...
>>if that is not racist, then I don't know what is... 
>Here's your clue-by-four:
>rac�ism n. 
>1- The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or
>ability and that a particular race is superior to others. 
>2- Discrimination or prejudice based on race. 
>and
>racism n 
>1: the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to
>members of other races 
>2: discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race
>Now about the situation you describe; that is:
>1- Prejudice based on geography. If you want to put a name to it, call it
>geographism.

no one understands that... so racism will do... especially since Africa and
being Black are seen as synonymous...

and yes, people know that whites also live and are born in Africa, but trust
me, Africa would not be shunned and ignored the way it is if it was
populated by mostly white people...

when Africa was under white power in colonial times, people were happy to do
business with Africa...

no matter what way you cut it, Westerners are racist... Westerners are not
the "good guys" anymore...

>2- Ignorance, brought forth from the belief that all (or at least most) of
>Africa is underdeveloped.

Africa continues to suffer from a world which demands its pound of flesh
from the current generation for the corruption of the previous decades...

no debt relief has been given to Africa... Africa is held in poverty by
uncaring greedy Western banks and governments... who extended loans to
despots during the cold war period in exchange for their alliance against
communism in Africa...

>3- Africa is for a large part a politically unstable continent, that's why
>many people don't take that continent seriously.

created by Western backing not of democratic government, but of whoever
would support their cause against communism...

Mobuto Seso Seko of the former Zaire was a classic example of a despot
installed and backed by the CIA in exchange for his support...

the Western world has raped Africa... and I would hope that the current as
yet uncorrupted generation of young people would see that...

maybe then you will realise why so many Africans distrust and even hate the
West...

you Westerners have these intelligence agencies which just go out and do
whatever they like in the name of your national security... they are not
answerable to the ordinary people... they barely answer to their own
governments... it is time, they are reined in, because evil people are in
charge of them... racists so severe they make the nazis look like lambs...

while you scoff at conspiracy theories that AIDS was invented by the CIA,
remember that those in charge of these secretive agencies would actually do
so...

>>Annie is only one of many who think like her...
>>In Britain South Africans are not even allowed to donate blood because they
>>think we are an AIDS ridden cesspool... which of course is again racist...
>No, it is fear caused by the many reports about the fast pace AIDS is
>spreading on the African continent. A lot of those reports come from South
>Africa, which gives them cause to fear south african blood.

correct... you fear us... on so many levels...

for so long, South Africa was seen as a dangerous place to holiday... until
9.11...

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"Mel" <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> skrev i meddelandet
news:iba...@4ax.com...
> Westerners are not the "good guys" anymore...

They've been the good guys? I must have missed that part of History class.

- jg

	Here in Canada, female toplessness is no longer against the
law.  The bid to have the law changed to reflect equal rights with regard
to toplessness was apparently started by a neighbour-friend of my aunt and
uncle's in Toronto during the mid-90's, but then... that is what they told
me.

-talis

Donderfliegen <ppu...@chello.balls.nl> ASCII art 25 Dec 2001 21:32 · permalink
On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 16:41:52 +0100, "CeeJay" <use...@ceejay.cjb.REMOVEnet>
provoked the following text:

>> >  Goth, Goth, Goth! Hehe! C'mon now, Tali...
>[SNIP]
>> >  It's like the hippies in the '60s, or the beatniks in the '50s.
>
>(The artist formerly known as Peter Punk wrote :)
>> You forget about the Punx in the 70's and 80's and the gabber of the 90's.
>
>Whats a gabber ?

It was (or is it still?) a spinoff of house. 
If you want a sterotype, Gabbers shave their heads, wear aussie sportswear
and nikes. The music (if you can call it that, but to each his/her own) can
only be described as a housebeat coming from a drumcomputer with a lot of
distortion added. Add to that beat some synths far away in the background
and here's your receipe for mind-numbing noise.

You may want to do a search on Napster (or equivalent) for "Rotterdam Terror
Corps" which is the only gabber "song" i know but i am sure there is more to
be found.
Oh, the song is called "poing"...

>How about the people wearing clothes that are too big and walk funny in todays
>world ? 
>.. what are they called btw ?

Dunno, i call them skaters although a minute fraction of the skaters
actually do skate.

>> Bizarreness is the essence of the exotic
>
>The automatic signaturelines from TAFKAPP are often .. strangly apropriate.
>Almost like if an AI was creating them.

I keep insisting that SigChanger (http://www.xs4all.nl/~fwolsink/) is
clairvoyant!
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Donderfliegen <ppu...@chello.balls.nl> ASCII art 25 Dec 2001 21:47 · permalink
On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 19:21:48 +0200, Mel <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za>
provoked the following text:

>>Here's your clue-by-four:
>>rac�ism n. 
>>1- The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or
>>ability and that a particular race is superior to others. 
>>2- Discrimination or prejudice based on race. 
>>and
>>racism n 
>>1: the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to
>>members of other races 
>>2: discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race
>>Now about the situation you describe; that is:
>>1- Prejudice based on geography. If you want to put a name to it, call it
>>geographism.
>
>no one understands that... so racism will do... 

Okay, be stupid for all i care. I've tried.

>and yes, people know that whites also live and are born in Africa, but trust
>me, Africa would not be shunned and ignored the way it is if it was
>populated by mostly white people...
>
>when Africa was under white power in colonial times, people were happy to do
>business with Africa...

blah blah blah... Stop dwelling in the past and start living in the now.

>no matter what way you cut it, Westerners are racist... Westerners are not
>the "good guys" anymore...

And you "sir" are just as racist -as you insist on putting it- as you think
"the westerners" are.

>>2- Ignorance, brought forth from the belief that all (or at least most) of
>>Africa is underdeveloped.
>
>Africa continues to suffer from a world which demands its pound of flesh
>from the current generation for the corruption of the previous decades...
>
>no debt relief has been given to Africa... Africa is held in poverty by
>uncaring greedy Western banks and governments... who extended loans to
>despots during the cold war period in exchange for their alliance against
>communism in Africa...

Yeah, so? Does that make all westerners bad?

>>3- Africa is for a large part a politically unstable continent, that's why
>>many people don't take that continent seriously.
>
>created by Western backing not of democratic government, but of whoever
>would support their cause against communism...
>
>Mobuto Seso Seko of the former Zaire was a classic example of a despot
>installed and backed by the CIA in exchange for his support...
>
>the Western world has raped Africa... 

Yup, and what are _you_ doing about it? Apart from writing all this
off-topic dribble in an ASCII-art newsgroup?

>while you scoff at conspiracy theories that AIDS was invented by the CIA,
>remember that those in charge of these secretive agencies would actually do
>so...

Who the hell are you preaching to? To me? If so, you have absolutely no idea
of what i think, believe of suport. Get of your bloody high horse and 

>>>Annie is only one of many who think like her...
>>>In Britain South Africans are not even allowed to donate blood because they
>>>think we are an AIDS ridden cesspool... which of course is again racist...
>>No, it is fear caused by the many reports about the fast pace AIDS is
>>spreading on the African continent. A lot of those reports come from South
>>Africa, which gives them cause to fear south african blood.
>
>correct... you fear us... on so many levels...
>
>for so long, South Africa was seen as a dangerous place to holiday... until
>9.11...

It still is, and so is the USA and so are dozens of other countries. Deal
with it!
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On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 21:47:17 GMT, ppu...@chello.balls.nl (Donderfliegen)
sucked my dick and said:
>On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 19:21:48 +0200, Mel <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za>
>provoked the following text:
>>>Here's your clue-by-four:
>>>rac�ism n. 
>>>1- The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or
>>>ability and that a particular race is superior to others. 
>>>2- Discrimination or prejudice based on race. 
>>>and
>>>racism n 
>>>1: the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to
>>>members of other races 
>>>2: discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race
>>>Now about the situation you describe; that is:
>>>1- Prejudice based on geography. If you want to put a name to it, call it
>>>geographism.
>>no one understands that... so racism will do... 
>Okay, be stupid for all i care. I've tried.

no... you're the stupid cunt here... for not fucking getting it...

>>and yes, people know that whites also live and are born in Africa, but trust
>>me, Africa would not be shunned and ignored the way it is if it was
>>populated by mostly white people...
>>when Africa was under white power in colonial times, people were happy to do
>>business with Africa...
>blah blah blah... Stop dwelling in the past and start living in the now.

fuck... this is all about the present...

>>no matter what way you cut it, Westerners are racist... Westerners are not
>>the "good guys" anymore...
>And you "sir" are just as racist -as you insist on putting it- as you think
>"the westerners" are.

no... you are the racist...

>>>2- Ignorance, brought forth from the belief that all (or at least most) of
>>>Africa is underdeveloped.
>>Africa continues to suffer from a world which demands its pound of flesh
>>from the current generation for the corruption of the previous decades...
>>no debt relief has been given to Africa... Africa is held in poverty by
>>uncaring greedy Western banks and governments... who extended loans to
>>despots during the cold war period in exchange for their alliance against
>>communism in Africa...
>Yeah, so? Does that make all westerners bad?

yup... it does... because you benefit from it without thinking where it all
came from...

>>>3- Africa is for a large part a politically unstable continent, that's why
>>>many people don't take that continent seriously.
>>created by Western backing not of democratic government, but of whoever
>>would support their cause against communism...
>>Mobuto Seso Seko of the former Zaire was a classic example of a despot
>>installed and backed by the CIA in exchange for his support...
>>the Western world has raped Africa... 
>Yup, and what are _you_ doing about it? Apart from writing all this
>off-topic dribble in an ASCII-art newsgroup?

what would you like me to do? crash an aircraft into as many Europeans as
possible? because frustrated people are willing to do that in order to
communicate a message to you which you refuse to hear...

>>while you scoff at conspiracy theories that AIDS was invented by the CIA,
>>remember that those in charge of these secretive agencies would actually do
>>so...
>Who the hell are you preaching to? To me? If so, you have absolutely no idea
>of what i think, believe of suport. Get of your bloody high horse and 

I doubt you think any further than what you are going to eat, what film you
are going to watch, how much booze / drugs you're going to consume and who
you are going to fuck...

you must start to fear retribution everyday, before you start thinking about
putting right the injustices that the West has perpetrated on this world...

>>>>Annie is only one of many who think like her...
>>>>In Britain South Africans are not even allowed to donate blood because they
>>>>think we are an AIDS ridden cesspool... which of course is again racist...
>>>No, it is fear caused by the many reports about the fast pace AIDS is
>>>spreading on the African continent. A lot of those reports come from South
>>>Africa, which gives them cause to fear south african blood.
>>correct... you fear us... on so many levels...
>>for so long, South Africa was seen as a dangerous place to holiday... until
>>9.11...
>It still is, and so is the USA and so are dozens of other countries. Deal
>with it!

you don't know what fear is yet... but you will... and then I will laugh
more...

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Poster <Pos...@NoSpam.net> 26 Dec 2001 04:16 · permalink
who are the QUEERS???

?:)
"Donderfliegen" <ppu...@chello.balls.nl> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 16:41:52 +0100, "CeeJay" <use...@ceejay.cjb.REMOVEnet>
> provoked the following text:
>
> >> >  Goth, Goth, Goth! Hehe! C'mon now, Tali...
> >[SNIP]
> >> >  It's like the hippies in the '60s, or the beatniks in the '50s.
> >
> >(The artist formerly known as Peter Punk wrote :)
> >> You forget about the Punx in the 70's and 80's and the gabber of the
90's.
> >
> >Whats a gabber ?
>
> It was (or is it still?) a spinoff of house.
> If you want a sterotype, Gabbers shave their heads, wear aussie sportswear
> and nikes. The music (if you can call it that, but to each his/her own)
can
> only be described as a housebeat coming from a drumcomputer with a lot of
> distortion added. Add to that beat some synths far away in the background
> and here's your receipe for mind-numbing noise.
>
> You may want to do a search on Napster (or equivalent) for "Rotterdam
Terror
> Corps" which is the only gabber "song" i know but i am sure there is more
to
> be found.
> Oh, the song is called "poing"...
>
> >How about the people wearing clothes that are too big and walk funny in
todays
> >world ?
> >.. what are they called btw ?
>
> Dunno, i call them skaters although a minute fraction of the skaters
> actually do skate.
>
> >> Bizarreness is the essence of the exotic
> >
> >The automatic signaturelines from TAFKAPP are often .. strangly
apropriate.
> >Almost like if an AI was creating them.
>
> I keep insisting that SigChanger (http://www.xs4all.nl/~fwolsink/) is
> clairvoyant!
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On Tue, 25 Dec 2001, CeeJay wrote:
>
> Bahh :) a rather poor pun. (besides I spelled it wrong the first time , so your
> pun really didn't work)

	*plbplbplbplbplbplbplbplbplb!*  Fine, I'll pick on every spelling
mistake that you make from now on. (j/k)


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On Tue, 25 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 05:32:50 -0600, Taliszanna
> <tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> sucked my dick and said:
> >	Heh, when did I say that I would be taking part in the giving of
> >pain?  I said that "something can be arranged".
> 
> typical... back peddling already... why are you so gutless...?

	Can't be back-peddling when I never promised anything in the first
place.  As for gutless, I'm not.  I pick and choose what is worth my
energy and time, but I don't take crap from anyone.

Jessie "Taliszanna" Brown
Saskatoon, SK (CAN)
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On Tue, 25 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:

> Africa continues to suffer from a world which demands its pound of flesh
> from the current generation for the corruption of the previous decades...
> 
> no debt relief has been given to Africa... Africa is held in poverty by
> uncaring greedy Western banks and governments... who extended loans to
> despots during the cold war period in exchange for their alliance against
> communism in Africa...

	I recall seeing Bono (of U2) broadcasted live from London, England
two years ago on t.v.  It was the Annual British Music Awards or
something like that.  Anyhow, Bono took the opportunity to rally for the
Crown to drop all expectation of payment and to pardon African nations
from the debts that they owe.  He basically explained why with everything
that you just said.  I thought that that was really decent of him.


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On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 03:40:08 -0600, Taliszanna
<tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> sucked my dick and said:
>On Tue, 25 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:
>> Africa continues to suffer from a world which demands its pound of flesh
>> from the current generation for the corruption of the previous decades...
>> no debt relief has been given to Africa... Africa is held in poverty by
>> uncaring greedy Western banks and governments... who extended loans to
>> despots during the cold war period in exchange for their alliance against
>> communism in Africa...
>	I recall seeing Bono (of U2) broadcasted live from London, England
>two years ago on t.v.  It was the Annual British Music Awards or
>something like that.  Anyhow, Bono took the opportunity to rally for the
>Crown to drop all expectation of payment and to pardon African nations
>from the debts that they owe.  He basically explained why with everything
>that you just said.  I thought that that was really decent of him.

yes... there are some Europeans who care enough to speak out about the cruel
injustices that Africa suffers under...

Africa has been the pawn and the football of the powerful nations for as
long as the white man's history...

Someone asked me what I am doing about it... it is simple, I am speaking
out... but I'm not going to kiss European butt... I'd sooner go to war with
Europe for what is due us... of course that means terrorism because Africa
cannot win a conventional war, and I don't go to war to lose...

so this generation has had its wakeup call on 9.11, but I think its going to
take more of your deaths to make you realise how serious and desperate the
situation in Africa is, before you relent...

you might be living in comfort and ease... but we're not, and while that
disparity exists, you should fear...

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On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 03:30:13 -0600, Taliszanna
<tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> sucked my dick and said:
>On Tue, 25 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 05:32:50 -0600, Taliszanna
>> <tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> sucked my dick and said:
>> >	Heh, when did I say that I would be taking part in the giving of
>> >pain?  I said that "something can be arranged".
>> typical... back peddling already... why are you so gutless...?
>	Can't be back-peddling when I never promised anything in the first
>place.

well it's moot... I'm never going to meet you in RL anyway...

>  As for gutless, I'm not.  I pick and choose what is worth my
>energy and time, but I don't take crap from anyone.

it is important to kill those who annoy...

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On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 21:32:30 GMT, ppu...@chello.balls.nl (Donderfliegen) tried to
confuse everyone with this message:


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What's wrong with this? Communists suck.

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Cthulhu <noo...@nowhere.it> 26 Dec 2001 18:30 · permalink
drsquare <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:

> Have you ever been to Italy? Racist as fuck. 

Deh-eh. I live in Rome, Italy.

I'd like to include an ASCII closseum, but I was not able to draw that.

	tentatamente,
	   Cthulhu

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Cthulhu <noo...@nowhere.it> 26 Dec 2001 18:32 · permalink
Taliszanna <tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> wrote:

>        Through Mr.Cthulhu's website I've found the following groovy link:
> http://www.asciibabes.com/

Eh... oh... well... :#]

> Can't say that I hold anything for the Necronomicon, however.

Too bad you can't read italian, there are Other Things that lie there.

	archiviatamente,
	    Cthulhu

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> How about the people wearing clothes that are too big and walk funny in
todays
> world ?
> .. what are they called btw ?

AFAIK Hoppers (comes from Hip-Hop, which also can't be decribed as music)

Joey

Donderfliegen <ppu...@chello.balls.nl> ASCII art 26 Dec 2001 20:12 · permalink
On 26 Dec 2001 19:32:23 +0100, Cthulhu <noo...@nowhere.it> provoked the
following text:

>> Can't say that I hold anything for the Necronomicon, however.
>
>Too bad you can't read italian, there are Other Things that lie there.

I can read it, but i don't understand a word Italian :-)))
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The *OFFICIAL* tagline of the 1998 Olympic Games!

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> On 26 Dec 2001 19:32:23 +0100, Cthulhu <noo...@nowhere.it> provoked the
> following text:
>
> >> Can't say that I hold anything for the Necronomicon, however.
> >
> >Too bad you can't read italian, there are Other Things that lie there.
>
> I can read it, but i don't understand a word Italian :-)))
                                               ^^^^^^^

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> The *OFFICIAL* tagline of the 1998 Olympic Games!
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I suppose you know Japanese then? Or is the connection here the fact that
you speak neither Italian nor Japanese?

-jg

On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 17:12:20 GMT, gru...@mail.ru (Timofei Shatrov) wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 05:25:57 -0600, Taliszanna <tal...@chem4823.usask.ca>
> tried to confuse everyone with this message:
> 
> >On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, Philip Newton wrote:
> >
> >> HTH, HAND.
> >
> >HTH= Hope that helps?
> Happy to help.

I meant it as "Hope that helps". That's the first expansion I learned.
And I think it's the original one ;)

(I think I learned both "HTH" and "HAND" from the alt.fan.warlord FAQ.)

Cheers,
Philip
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That really is my address; no need to remove anything to reply.
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

> also it seems that many forget that South Africa is the most advanced
> African country...

And you are the only exception?

Joey

Donderfliegen <ppu...@chello.balls.nl> ASCII art 27 Dec 2001 19:33 · permalink
On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 21:46:42 +0100, "Joaquim G�ndara" <cla...@lords.com>
provoked the following text:

>> >> Can't say that I hold anything for the Necronomicon, however.
>> >
>> >Too bad you can't read italian, there are Other Things that lie there.
>>
>> I can read it, but i don't understand a word Italian :-)))

8<

>> The *OFFICIAL* tagline of the 1998 Olympic Games!
>                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>I suppose you know Japanese then? Or is the connection here the fact that
>you speak neither Italian nor Japanese?

<g> This is just a typical example of the clairvoyance of SigChanger
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~fwolsink/). I have a 500 KB tagfile and SigChanger
"rtandomly" pics one every 5 seconds. I had no hand in choosing this tag.
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Cthulhu <noo...@nowhere.it> 27 Dec 2001 20:02 · permalink
Donderfliegen <ppu...@chello.balls.nl> wrote:

> I can read it, but i don't understand a word Italian :-)))

As every Necronomicon reader should know, it is not important what you
understand, the key is how you say that.

So, be careful when reading things you don't understand. ;)

	avvisatamente,
	   Cthulhu

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Taliszanna <tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> ASCII art 29 Dec 2001 18:24 · permalink
On Tue, 25 Dec 2001, CeeJay wrote:

> How about the people wearing clothes that are too big and walk funny in todays
> world ?
> .. what are they called btw ?

	For how they are walking: the word "dork" comes to mind. As for
the pants: a few types fit this category: ravers, skateboarders, homeboyz,
gangstas, new grunge kids, slummers, and jazzies, (are usually seen also
wearing a cap like Angus Young from AC/DC wears, ironically).  They don't
all walk stupidly-- just the ones who are trying too hard to impress
someone.

> > Please explain the underlying philosophy to me, Annie.
> 
> Is'nt it just about being different and a little mystical ?

No. Trying to be a "little different" is what everyone does.  We just are
without trying. Being a little mystical is for the gypsies and students of
magic/k some of them are goths.  Being pretentious and mysterious is a
quality found in the gothic clubs, but it is not the goal-- just a
side-effect.  Consider that any night club has a tonne of pretentious-
ness.  It's a club thing before it's a goth thing.  I am not preten-
tious.  In fact, I'm up-front about basically everything and don't need to
pretend anything-- I'm glad to show just who I am.  When I'm dancing, I'm
putting on a performance for myself, not for anyone else.  I forget that
others are even there, in fact, when the music is playing and I'm bathed
in blue.  

> You could call it a hobby .. putting time and money into something only a select
> group understand and care about .. kind of like drawing ascii-art.

Um, no.  Man, you missed the mark more on understanding goth than I'd 
thought...  It's not a hobby, it's a style, a sub-culture, a mindset that
can intertwine with spirituality-- not religion, but spirit.  A lot of us
are artists of some kind or very much appreciate the arts-- theatre and
the visual arts typically battle for which category we love the most.  We
paint ourselves to look like the art that we so love, becoming art
ourselves.  
	The entire club is a work of art, in fact-- the atmosphere, the
sexy vibe, the very liberal attitude, the tension, the release of tension
in wild dance that can't be done anywhere else, the wonderful decor,
knowing that we are among others who are something like ourselves-- people
from whom we do not have to hide certain things because these things are
not just accepted but encouraged... but those same people we may have to
guard other things in ourselves from if they turn, (which can happen in
any social circle... just sometimes a little more visciously in this one
because we are people who are unafraid to face our darkness and to get to
know it).  
	We revel in seeing our friends happy, expressing themselves on the
floor, making the best of themselves in that moment.  We revel in sharing
something good, something exciting-- something that the rest of the world
is too silly to allow themselves a piece of with the abandon that we do. 
We know that we all walk outside of what is labeled by common society as
"normal" and so with each other there is a comfort-- to know that we are
not alone.  And if something has you feeling bad, it's alright.  Feel it,
don't stifle it here as the rest of the world would have you do.  We all
feel bad sometimes.  Get on the floor.  Live in the feeling and then maybe
you'll be rid of it later if you don't suppress.  This is how we are
healthy.  The rest of the world doesn't bother trying to ask and 
understand.  Common society, it seems to us, would like to live with its
head in the sand and a stick up its ass.  Society seems to honour the Nazi
value of non-tolerance for anything that is out-of-the-ordinary.  Society
is shallow and small-minded in this way.

> > Bizarreness is the essence of the exotic
> 
> The automatic signaturelines from TAFKAPP are often .. strangly apropriate.
> Almost like if an AI was creating them.

	Automatic signaturelines?  I'm unsure what you are referring
to.  I'm not really much of a fan, (his name was changed back to Prince,
btw).

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Taliszanna <tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> ASCII art 29 Dec 2001 18:29 · permalink
> On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 16:41:52 +0100, "CeeJay" <use...@ceejay.cjb.REMOVEnet>
> provoked the following text:
> 
> >The automatic signaturelines from TAFKAPP are often .. strangly apropriate.
> >Almost like if an AI was creating them.

	Nevermind my last post, I was running on automatic. TAFKAPP= The
Artist Formerly Known As Peter Punk, not The Artist Formerly Known As
Prince. Muh...

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Am I alone in that regard?


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On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:

> On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 21:47:17 GMT, ppu...@chello.balls.nl (Donderfliegen)
> sucked my dick and said:
> >
> >Yeah, so? Does that make all westerners bad?
> 
> yup... it does... because you benefit from it without thinking where it all
> came from...

	That is ridiculous.  Whatever stability that we have did not
solely come from you.  You think that our parents don't work to keep
rooves over our heads and to feed us?  You think that we're all born with
silver spoons in our mouths in North America?  We don't all live in
mansions, if that is what you think, and Africa is not to be thanked for
everything.  Many of the ancestors of people here in my country lived off
of the land-- either as Native Indian people or as tradesmen.  If they
came over from Europe rather than being born here in one of the first
generations of European-Canadians, they came over with likely little or
nothing.  It's a fine fantasy for you to think that we owe you our lives.  
We don't.  The British crown may owe your continent and your specific
country, but we do not.  
	I'm not claiming that there was never a person from Canada who had
something to do with mining in S.Africa-- I really don't know if there
have been or not.  I'm just saying that to point a finger at every
westerner for those that participated in mining over there is sad.  It
says that you need to load blame-- misplaced or not-- onto someone or you
just aren't okay.  That's as bad as every low-income family that is Native
here hating every white person regardless of whether those people are
living in the same financial situation as they are or not and blaming all
the white people for their poverty because the white people don't make it
their 24-hour a day life mission to hand over every thing they have to
Natives.  Canadians are just trying to live, like anyone else.  We don't
need an excuse for that and we don't need to apologise for things that are
not our fault.  If you are still bitter because Canada is a richer country
than yours, that is too bad for you... but I have nothing to feel either 
sorry or ashamed for.  It is not my fault that jealousy lives.

> you don't know what fear is yet... but you will... and then I will laugh
> more...

	Come on.  That's really sad.  We have a word here for people with
that attitude: damaged goods.

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On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:

> Africa has been the pawn and the football of the powerful nations for as
> long as the white man's history...

	You are missing a lot of early European history then.  Europe has
had history for much longer than they've known Africa.

> so this generation has had its wakeup call on 9.11, but I think its going to
> take more of your deaths to make you realise how serious and desperate the
> situation in Africa is, before you relent...

	The terrorism in the U.S.A. was an attack on THEM, not Europe and
it had nothing to do with S.Africa-- it was to do with Osama Bin Laden
wanting his name to go down in history because he's an egotistical
swine.  I know that people in Afghanistan are very poor and life is hard,
but tough shyte if they are bad at business.  No one ever promised them a
rose garden.  It's not an attack on a less wealthy nation when one country
makes a good business move by trading with, say, France because it will be
profitable.  It is simply good business.  Business is not about being nice
or charitable or giving hand-outs.  It is about making money by being
smart when the figures are added up-- and it is wrong for those who aren't
doing well to go kill 30,000 people because they're sulking that they're
not the big weiner and don't get to be the girl with the most cake and
the princess crown.

> you might be living in comfort and ease... but we're not, and while that
> disparity exists, you should fear...

	Do you think that the countries of North America do nothing to
help nations that suffer?  Pardon me, but that is one of the things that
Canada puts a lot of time into.  Peace Keepers don't just try to keep
people from blowing the shyte out of each other-- they also spend a
lot of their time giving relief to the nations that they are shipped to,
whether it is wartime or not.  Canada is not alone in that.  America also
does its share.  Your view of America and Canada both seems to be missing
a few pieces.

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On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:

> it is important to kill those who annoy...

	Is that a personal value or a joke?

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Donderfliegen <ppu...@chello.balls.nl> ASCII art 29 Dec 2001 19:26 · permalink
On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 12:24:47 -0600, Taliszanna
<tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> provoked the following text:

>> The automatic signaturelines from TAFKAPP are often .. strangly apropriate.
>> Almost like if an AI was creating them.
>
>	Automatic signaturelines?  I'm unsure what you are referring
>to.  I'm not really much of a fan, (his name was changed back to Prince,
>btw).

He means me (The artist Formerly Known As Peter Punk) :-)
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"Taliszanna" <tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> skrev i meddelandet
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>
> Come on.  That's really sad.  We have a word here for people with
> that attitude: damaged goods.
                    1      2

Hmm...

-jg

Taliszanna <tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> ASCII art 29 Dec 2001 20:01 · permalink
On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Poster wrote:

> who are the QUEERS???
> 
	Homosexuals.

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Taliszanna <tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> ASCII art 29 Dec 2001 20:10 · permalink
On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, drsquare wrote:

> So what is it then? When I went, it was all skinny, filthy unhygenic arabs
> sitting around in knackered, half-built buildings smoking and being
> abusive. And that was just the women.

	That was only one part of Africa-- you can't honestly believe that
all of the rest of it is just like that.

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Taliszanna <tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> ASCII art 29 Dec 2001 20:54 · permalink
On 27 Dec 2001, Cthulhu wrote:

> Donderfliegen <ppu...@chello.balls.nl> wrote:
> 
> > I can read it, but i don't understand a word Italian :-)))
> 
> As every Necronomicon reader should know, it is not important what you
> understand, the key is how you say that.

	You are going on the principle, however, that the book was not a
joke to begin with.  It is the book that I take the least seriously out of
all.

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Taliszanna <tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> ASCII art 29 Dec 2001 21:39 · permalink
On Sat, 29 Dec 2001, Joaquim Gândara wrote:

> "Taliszanna" <tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> skrev i meddelandet
> news:Pin...@chem4823.usask.ca...
> >
> > Come on.  That's really sad.  We have a word here for people with
> > that attitude: damaged goods.
>                     1      2

	Gah, i was thinking "term" but wrote something else.
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 12:52:48 -0600, Taliszanna
<tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> sucked my dick and said:
>On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 21:47:17 GMT, ppu...@chello.balls.nl (Donderfliegen)
>> sucked my dick and said:
>> >Yeah, so? Does that make all westerners bad?
>> yup... it does... because you benefit from it without thinking where it all
>> came from...
>	That is ridiculous.  Whatever stability that we have did not
>solely come from you.  You think that our parents don't work to keep
>rooves over our heads and to feed us?  You think that we're all born with
>silver spoons in our mouths in North America?  We don't all live in
>mansions, if that is what you think, and Africa is not to be thanked for
>everything.  Many of the ancestors of people here in my country lived off
>of the land-- either as Native Indian people or as tradesmen.  If they
>came over from Europe rather than being born here in one of the first
>generations of European-Canadians, they came over with likely little or
>nothing.  It's a fine fantasy for you to think that we owe you our lives.  
>We don't.  The British crown may owe your continent and your specific
>country, but we do not.  
>	I'm not claiming that there was never a person from Canada who had
>something to do with mining in S.Africa-- I really don't know if there
>have been or not.  I'm just saying that to point a finger at every
>westerner for those that participated in mining over there is sad.  It
>says that you need to load blame-- misplaced or not-- onto someone or you
>just aren't okay.  That's as bad as every low-income family that is Native
>here hating every white person regardless of whether those people are
>living in the same financial situation as they are or not and blaming all
>the white people for their poverty because the white people don't make it
>their 24-hour a day life mission to hand over every thing they have to
>Natives.  Canadians are just trying to live, like anyone else.  We don't
>need an excuse for that and we don't need to apologise for things that are
>not our fault.  If you are still bitter because Canada is a richer country
>than yours, that is too bad for you... but I have nothing to feel either 
>sorry or ashamed for.  It is not my fault that jealousy lives.

but white people definitely _do_ suck... of all the people on the face of
the world, white people are the most wretched perverted evil fuckers... and
I'm a white person just btw...

the white person is the one who brought so-called civilisation to the
world... it is the white person who took by force what the native people
had...

the white people are just fucking users... have always been and continue to
be such... they don't give a shit that the victims of centuries and
millennia of their racist policies are reduced to dying of starvation...
instead they bitch that they cannot afford a new SUV...

ag, I just want the whole of humanity to die soon... because we truly do not
have the right to exist anymore... we have fucked this planet on its head...
and we spend all day thinking of new ways to fuck each other...

fuck humanity... i sincerely hope that some mad fucker destroys this planet
by thermonuclear war before I turn 50 years old...

and the indicator of how sick the human mind is, is evidenced by the
phenomenon known as religion... even you, who seem reasonably intelligent,
have decided that some non-existent goddess spoke to you... you have
successfully deluded yourself with a lie... you cannot prove your goddess'
existence, yet you choose to believe in spite of no evidence...

that's what humans do... they choose to believe in a make-believe reality
that is better than the shithole actual reality, for the obvious reason...
fantasy realities are more palatable to our overactive imaginative brains...

and that is why there is _ZERO_ hope for humanity and should not be...
because our brains are not capable of dealing with the goddawful reality of
existence... so we invent alternative nicer realities...

>> you don't know what fear is yet... but you will... and then I will laugh
>> more...
>	Come on.  That's really sad.  We have a word here for people with
>that attitude: damaged goods.

humanity as a whole is damaged goods... we are all in a state of the deepest
trauma possible...

why do you think people so easily become nazis...? do you think that that
mentality died with the Nazi Reich...? Stalin killed more Russians... Pol
Pot committed large scale genocide... genocide took place even more recently
in Rwanda and in Yugoslavia... the Taliban slaughtered people, and the
Pakistanis and the Indians are stepping up for their turn...

wake up please... people hate each other... and we destroy each other every
opportunity we get... either with bullets or economic oppression... most of
this world lives in abject poverty with _zero_ hope of a better future...
those few 8% who enjoy a life of luxury in the west (and elsewhere but
mostly in the west) do so at the expense of everyone else and the planet's
environment...

we live in a world that is so seriously fucked that no one can solve its
problems... i say "burn it all down"...

if I believed in a god, that is my only prayer, that he destroy this fucking
fucked up world and all its people... actually the animals can stay, just
wipe out humanity and all that it has ever created and discovered... blot us
out permanently... make it like we never even existed...

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On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 13:11:11 -0600, Taliszanna
<tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> sucked my dick and said:
>On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:
>> Africa has been the pawn and the football of the powerful nations for as
>> long as the white man's history...
>	You are missing a lot of early European history then.  Europe has
>had history for much longer than they've known Africa.

we all came from africa...

>> so this generation has had its wakeup call on 9.11, but I think its going to
>> take more of your deaths to make you realise how serious and desperate the
>> situation in Africa is, before you relent...
>	The terrorism in the U.S.A. was an attack on THEM, not Europe and
>it had nothing to do with S.Africa-- it was to do with Osama Bin Laden
>wanting his name to go down in history because he's an egotistical
>swine.

you have probably no idea how truly villainous the rulers of europe over the
millennia were...

OBL cannot hope to aspire to be as evil as the evil that has _ruled_ this
planet previously...

even the popes of the past have outshown his evil deeds... and i don't
consider what obl did as evil... america continues to support israel's
genocide against the palestinians and thus is a legitimate target...
palestinian civilians die, it is proper that american citizens die too...

i don't give a fuck what bush says... he is a fucking arsehole... bush (and
most americans) don't give a fuck about the millions of arabs israel kills
and oppresses... the israelis (who are all jews) have committed a greater
atrocity against the arabs than hitler did against them...

bush is a fucking terrorist...

another example of evil... western history is a blatant twisting of facts to
conceal their evil...

no, america and the west deserve far worse than what obl did to them on
9.11...

> I know that people in Afghanistan are very poor and life is hard,
>but tough shyte if they are bad at business.

oh fuck you... at 21, I cannot expect you to have a sophisticated
appreciation of reality...

the only reason the arabs of the middle east are not poverty stricken
wanderers of the desert was that they lucked out on oil reserves...

that has fuck all to do with being good or bad at business... johannesburg
is only wealthier than cape town because they have huge gold reserves...

the mongolian people lived in abject poverty in a barren geographic
region... they grew tired of their poverty and Genghis Khan built the
Mongolian Empire which conquered China, Persia, Russia and Eastern Europe...

what I'm saying is that most people just get rich by virtue of where they
stay, but others who stay in poorer regions get fed up and take by force the
luxury that others enjoy...

it has always happened, and the same will happen in the west... despite all
your confidence in your military prowess, the west will be defeated and
molten silver will be poured in your eyes and down your throats... (this is
how Genghis Khan tortured people to death)...

>No one ever promised them a rose garden.

we want it nonetheless and we will have it...

>  It's not an attack on a less wealthy nation when one country
>makes a good business move by trading with, say, France because it will be
>profitable.  It is simply good business.  Business is not about being nice
>or charitable or giving hand-outs.

neither is war... hording of wealth is a declaration of war against those in
poverty... is has always been that way...

when someone is holding a razor edged dagger to the soft spot in your throat
and you know that within the next 5 seconds it is going to be plunged into
your throat till it protrudes out the back of your neck, and that you will
writhe and wriggle in pain as you choke to death on your own blood, how
willing would you be to hand over your entire fortune for just another hour
of life...?

but only when it is too late do people wake up and realise that by hording
their wealth and closing their eyes to the abject poverty of others are they
signing their own death warrants... or those of their descendants...

how many generations of Persians lived it up before one day their great
great grandchildren were massacred wholesale by the invading Mongols...?

9.11 is a mere foretaste of what is waiting for either you or your
descendants...

> It is about making money by being
>smart when the figures are added up-- and it is wrong for those who aren't
>doing well to go kill 30,000 people because they're sulking that they're
>not the big weiner and don't get to be the girl with the most cake and
>the princess crown.

nevertheless disenfranchised people have always risen up to take what
another made...

it is not whether you were smart or you produced it, it is whether having
acquired wealth you are able to hold onto it... why do you think the West
spends so much on its military...? because they know that that is the only
way to retain their wealth...

your personal morals might include property rights, but nature does not have
any law which safeguards them... you keep what you have only by virtue of
greater force...

but if we cannot take it, then we will destroy it so that you cannot enjoy
it either...

humanity is at war with each other because people refuse to share their
surplus... even though people have more than they need, they crave yet
more... to the detriment of others...

>> you might be living in comfort and ease... but we're not, and while that
>> disparity exists, you should fear...
>	Do you think that the countries of North America do nothing to
>help nations that suffer?

absolutely yes... you willingly participate in the destruction of
palestinian lives...

and you seek profits from poor continents like africa...

>  Pardon me, but that is one of the things that
>Canada puts a lot of time into.  Peace Keepers don't just try to keep
>people from blowing the shyte out of each other-- they also spend a
>lot of their time giving relief to the nations that they are shipped to,
>whether it is wartime or not.  Canada is not alone in that.  America also
>does its share.  Your view of America and Canada both seems to be missing
>a few pieces.

apart from a miniscule portion of people who involve themselves in relief
work, the greatest majority of people feel that the wealth they have is for
their sole use...

the wealthiest nations of this world have been asked by africa and other
developing economic regions to forgive their debt so that they can invest it
in infrastructure... so far no debt relief has been given...

some scientists have calculated that based on the environmental destruction
caused by first world economies, those first world countries actually owe
the developing countries a huge debt...

we don't want your pennies... we want your trillions... and until we get a
real redress, africa and other developing countries will be places where
terrorists are spawned...

it is your choice... pay us or die...

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On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 13:12:20 -0600, Taliszanna
<tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> sucked my dick and said:
>On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:
>> it is important to kill those who annoy...
>	Is that a personal value or a joke?

it is a value of nature... have a look around... how many lions do you know
who put up with constant annoyances...? lions kill annoyances... water flows
downhill always...

nature always takes the shortcut...

-- 
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
if in doubt, suck me
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 18:32:28 -0000, "Andrew Z Carpenter"
<and...@gloucestershire.freeserve.co.yuk> wrote:

> I can't get to your website, http://talis_white_crow.tripod.com

I can't get there from work, where we are behind a proxy which (in my
opinion, correctly) refuses that URL since it's not a valid hostname --
only letters, digits, and hyphens are valid, but not underscores.

Try http://members.tripod.com/talis_white_crow/ instead.

Cheers,
Philip
-- 
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That really is my address; no need to remove anything to reply.
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

"Peter \"lastfuture\" Marquardt" <lastfuture@lastfuture.de> ASCII art 30 Dec 2001 13:53 · permalink
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 15:06:53 +0200, Mel
<me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> wrote:

>On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 13:12:20 -0600, Taliszanna
><tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> sucked my dick and said:
>>On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:
>>> it is important to kill those who annoy...
>>	Is that a personal value or a joke?
>
>it is a value of nature... have a look around... how many lions do you know
>who put up with constant annoyances...? lions kill annoyances... water flows
>downhill always...
>
>nature always takes the shortcut...

ever heard of maeanders?

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"Peter \"lastfuture\" Marquardt" <lastfuture@lastfuture.de> ASCII art 30 Dec 2001 13:56 · permalink
On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 20:01:37 GMT, ppu...@chello.balls.nl
(Donderfliegen) wrote:

>On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 00:23:03 +0100, "CeeJay" <use...@ceejay.cjb.REMOVEnet>
>provoked the following text:
>
>>> > A lot of it is exported too .. f.x you can't buy good cheese in Sweden or
>>> > Germany and if you can it's imported from Denmark.
>>>
>>> I object!
>>> In Sweden, we have great cheese.
>>(http://www.cheese.com/countrystep2.asp?Country=Sweden)
>>
>>I object to your objection ! :)
>>I have tasted many swedish cheeses and I have yet to taste a good cheese.
>>Hushallsost will do when used in food like lasagna or spagetti , but I would
>>prefer a danish cheese any day.
>
>HAH! Dutch cheese wins every time, hands down! :-)

i love gouda :)
oudse goudse ;)

but i don't like that the dutch keep the best cheese for them selves
and export the not-so-good one.. my sis always has to bring some when
she comes to germany for a visit

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"Peter \"lastfuture\" Marquardt" <lastfuture@lastfuture.de> ASCII art 30 Dec 2001 14:01 · permalink
On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:47:16 +0200, Mel
<me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> wrote:

>we in Africa know you Europeans are racists... why do you think we don't
>give a fuck to join the US / UK crusaded?

oh yeah.. i wonder who is the racist after that statement

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"Peter \"lastfuture\" Marquardt" <lastfuture@lastfuture.de> ASCII art 30 Dec 2001 14:56 · permalink
On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 16:41:52 +0100, "CeeJay"
<use...@ceejay.cjb.REMOVEnet> wrote:

>(Annie said:)
>> >  Goth, Goth, Goth! Hehe! C'mon now, Tali...
>[SNIP]
>> >  It's like the hippies in the '60s, or the beatniks in the '50s.
>
>(The artist formerly known as Peter Punk wrote :)
>> You forget about the Punx in the 70's and 80's and the gabber of the 90's.
>
>Whats a gabber ?
>How about the people wearing clothes that are too big and walk funny in todays
>world ?
>.. what are they called btw ?

here they call themselves
skaters / hiphoppers
altho some do skate and listen to hiphop, some just listen to hiphop,
some just skate and some don't skate neither do they listen to
hiphop.. complicated eh? :)

i think you could call them baggies as well ..this would always be
correct as you are referring to their clothes

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"Peter \"lastfuture\" Marquardt" <lastfuture@lastfuture.de> ASCII art 30 Dec 2001 15:01 · permalink
On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 20:47:42 +0100, Johannes 'Joey' R�ssel
<joh...@web.de> wrote:

>> How about the people wearing clothes that are too big and walk funny in
>todays
>> world ?
>> .. what are they called btw ?
>
>AFAIK Hoppers (comes from Hip-Hop, which also can't be decribed as music)
>
>Joey

well hiphop IS music.. altho just rhythmic spoken word along with a
fine arrangement of snippets mostly from already existing music pieces
of whatever genre the text fits to best

so hiphop is to be described as music as it can't be further
generalized. its sound depends on the snippets used and there is of
course a wide variety of them. maybe the kind of hiphop you heard was
with snippets of a genre you didn't like or with more sound snippets
than music snippets.

one should never ever generalize
                                   -"how to write good" author unknown

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"Peter \"lastfuture\" Marquardt" <lastfuture@lastfuture.de> ASCII art 30 Dec 2001 15:07 · permalink
On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 03:27:41 -0600, Taliszanna
<tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> wrote:

>On 21 Dec 2001, Cthulhu wrote:
>
>>    Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu http://www.rlyeh.it/ wgah'nagl fhtgan!
>> 		     <cthulhu (at) rlyeh (dot) it>
>
>	Through Mr.Cthulhu's website I've found the following groovy link:
>http://www.asciibabes.com/
>
>Can't say that I hold anything for the Necronomicon, however.

i think the necronomicon (at least the version i have "ABDUL ALHAZRED
DAS NECRONOMICON NACH DEN AUFZEICHNUNGEN VON GREGOR A. GREGORIUS") is
mostly nonsense. and if you are deep enough into magic you know that

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"Peter \"lastfuture\" Marquardt" <lastfuture@lastfuture.de> ASCII art 30 Dec 2001 16:39 · permalink
On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 01:43:01 +0200, Mel
<me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> wrote:

>On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 20:59:12 -0000, anonymous@bogus_address.con sucked my
>dick and said:
>>><ann...@oal.com> wrote:
>>> > > Annie Ascii -- budding 14-year-old ASCII artist
>>> > >                           .,,,.
>>> > >  ####    ####            (~~~)))   Well, you've certainly lived up
>>> > > ##  ##  ##  ##           _ _ ((()  / to our negative expectations of
>>> > > ######  ######           (^  ))))    an African: stupid, filthy-
>>> > > ##  ##  ##  ##            ~_((((()   mouthed, and uncivilized. Get
>>> > > ##  ##  ##  ##            / ))))))  some culture, moron. Ooga-booga!
>>>"Lasse Poeppler" said:
>>> > you know that you americans have a antidiscriminating clause
>>> > (dunno the real right word) and i think it's a good thing, so
>>> > take care of it. what you said, is just said by dumbasses.
>>>me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za said:
>>>she's prolly some redneck white trash's daughter... if not, she
>>>certainly can apply for the position...
>>>put some people under pressure and all their racial prejudices come
>>>pouring out... shame to see it come out of a 14yo though...
>>Where did Annie mention 'race?'
>
>she didn't have to... African means black... even in America...

you know.. two friends of mine are african.. actually more than two..
but those two are both caucasian. still african

so shut up and think before posting

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> "Philip Newton" <pne...@newton.digitalspace.net> wrote
> in message news:ji5...@4ax.com...
>
> > On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 18:32:28 -0000, "Andrew Z Carpenter"
> > <and...@gloucestershire.freeserve.co.yuk> wrote:
> >
> > I can't get to your website, http://talis_white_crow.tripod.com
>
> I can't get there from work, where we are behind a proxy which (in my
> opinion, correctly) refuses that URL since it's not a valid hostname --
> only letters, digits, and hyphens are valid, but not underscores.
>
> Try http://members.tripod.com/talis_white_crow/ instead.


Ahh that would be why then.  I'm behind a transparent proxy.

http://members.tripod.com/talis_white_crow/ works for me.

Tali, maybe you should advertise that version of the address,
to ensure that everyone will be able to access it without problems?

Thanks Philip.

Andrew

Taliszanna <tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> ASCII art 30 Dec 2001 18:38 · permalink
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:
> 
> but white people definitely _do_ suck... of all the people on the face of
> the world, white people are the most wretched perverted evil fuckers... and
> I'm a white person just btw...

	I disagree, (and not simply because I am 3 parts white).  I think
that it is about equal everywhere-- it's juat that in the past, countries
that were run by white people had the funds to wield their barbarism as a
weapon because the countries knew business & trade well and probably
also had pillaged someone.  I believe that any nation that has power would
use it to control another nation.  In governments, even the most
well-meaning person, given the right kind of power, will attempt to use it
over someone else.  The *way* in which it is used is how to measure the
quality of that being.

> the white person is the one who brought so-called civilisation to the
> world... it is the white person who took by force what the native people
> had...

	You are speaking about White people in past tense but are you
keeping an eye on the fact that those who ran the Indian schools are not
the current generation or our parents' generation?  Or the fact that we
cannot be blamed for the deeds of the European Explorers in the
1700's?  Be sure, during highschool when we were taught about the history
of our own country, I felt ashamed of many of Canada's forefathers.  When
I read about the things that were done to the First Nations indian peoples
here I was enraged and when I watched movies regarding slavery of black
African-Americans, I was nearly sick to my stomach at how disgusting
humans can be.  However, I will not write off every White person as evil
because of what their ancestors may have done, whatever country their
roots lie in.

> the white people are just fucking users... have always been and continue to
> be such... they don't give a shit that the victims of centuries and
> millennia of their racist policies are reduced to dying of starvation...

There are many who do and do something about it.  Following them, there
are many who do care, but do not have the funds to lend or the opportunity
to actually physically lend a hand because they have children that they
owe money, time and love to first and foremost.  Then, as with any people,
there are people who are selfish even within their own community and live
in a little bubble of a world where they are the big shiny star.  Humans
of all types exist in every group.  It is unavoidable.

> instead they bitch that they cannot afford a new SUV...

	Not every white person gives a crap about getting the better car,
you know.  It is an illusion to believe so.

> ag, I just want the whole of humanity to die soon... because we truly do not
> have the right to exist anymore... we have fucked this planet on its head...
> and we spend all day thinking of new ways to fuck each other...

	Yes, it is true that humankind has very much screwed the planet
over, but there are those of us who try to change things for the
better.  I try as hard as I can-- recycling like mad, helping others to
help themselves, volunteering, cleaning up our parks and the riverbank,
donating blood (whenever my veins don't collapse), creating most of my own
cosmetics instead of buying those that test on animals, (*sometimes people
give me animal-tested stuff so I feel like I have to use it, but I think
about the animals while I wear their sacrifice and honour them).  I give
my old books to those who come from families that have trouble buying 
their own, I look after the birds around here so that they don't die from
the cold in the winter, I had my cat neutered so that she wouldn't
contribute to the stray cat problem that we have, and I look out for
people younger than me who are going through the confusion and angst of
teenagerdom.  I buy 2nd hand clothing and turn the leather jackets that
nobody wants into something so that the animal didn't die in vain, I
don't waste energy or heat, respect even the smallest insects, and 
encourage others to do all of these things as well.  I give back to the
earth.  **smile**  We don't all suck.

> and the indicator of how sick the human mind is, is evidenced by the
> phenomenon known as religion... even you, who seem reasonably intelligent,
> have decided that some non-existent goddess spoke to you... 

	I did not "decide"-- I began to hear her name at odd, completely
random moments when I was deeply involved in reading novels or studying
something that had nothing to do with Her, then I kept seeing Her name
all over the place.  It was far too much coincidence for me when it kept 
happening over 1/2 a year, out of the blue.  She is non-existent to you
if you decide that She is, but just because you decide such a thing does
not make it absolute for the rest of the world.  There are some things
that exist whether you want them to or not and whether or not they touch
your consciousness.

> you have successfully deluded yourself with a lie... you cannot prove
> your goddess' existence, 

Just as you cannot disprove Her.

> yet you choose to believe in spite of no evidence...

I have personal evidence.  I tend to be one of those folks who requires
such before believing in anything.

> that's what humans do... they choose to believe in a make-believe reality
> that is better than the shithole actual reality, for the obvious reason...
> fantasy realities are more palatable to our overactive imaginative brains...

No, it's like this: no matter where a person comes from, in the end that
person will decide whatever he or she wants to.  You have done no
differently.  Reality is generally relative.

> and that is why there is _ZERO_ hope for humanity and should not be...
> because our brains are not capable of dealing with the goddawful reality of
> existence... so we invent alternative nicer realities...

And you expect what as an alternative if we were to embrace *your*
reality?  It would be great to believe in the lack of existence of good
things in the world and be miserable and want to die?  I have known
several atheists in my time, but none of them were so down on the planet
as you seem to be, Mel.  They tried to make the very best of every day and
of themselves.  They believed in science and they were awake to the things
that were going on around the world, but they didn't give up on
themselves.

> humanity as a whole is damaged goods... we are all in a state of the deepest
> trauma possible...

Gee, that's nice and depressing but it's not a reason to abandon anything
that I've worked for or that I care about.

> why do you think people so easily become nazis...? 

Because it was done in a very crafty way.  The people were poor and
desperate and Hitler marched onto the scene promising massive improvement
in the economy as well as avengement-- not to mention that he was highly
intelligent, was excellent at public speech, and had the gift of
psychology on his side.  It was genius-level brainwashing if you take a
look at exactly how it was done... and many people in Germany didn't
realise what was happening until it was upon them in such a force as that
all that they could do was either join the Nazi ranks and fight the Nazis
from the inside or flee the country.

> do you think that that mentality died with the Nazi Reich...? 

Of course not.  I know people who support Nazi values despite that they
themselves would have been targets if they'd been germans of the late
1930's-- people with learning disabilities, of gypsy heritage, or who are
gay.  Hell, I know a Native guy who was raised in a white household and is
a Nazi.  Explain that one to me...

> Stalin killed more Russians... Pol Pot committed large scale genocide... 
> genocide took place even more recently in Rwanda and in Yugoslavia... 

It goes on in Romania, too, by the way.  Romania doesn't like Hungarians
living in the areas that used to belong to Hungary (despite that it is
where their families have lived for hundreds and hundreds of years).  
Consider also the gypsies (who are hated wherever they go).

> the Taliban slaughtered people, and the Pakistanis and the Indians are
> stepping up for their turn...

That's nothing new.  Their conflict has gone on for a long time already.

> wake up please... people hate each other... 

I never doubted that.  You claimed that religions hate.  My reply was "No, 
people do".  Sounds to me like I agreed with you.

> and we destroy each other every opportunity we get... 

I, myself, have never killed anyone.

> either with bullets or economic oppression... most of
> this world lives in abject poverty with _zero_ hope of a better future...
> those few 8% who enjoy a life of luxury in the west (and elsewhere but
> mostly in the west) do so at the expense of everyone else and the planet's
> environment...

Here in the west we have been successful at setting ourselves up over a
long period of time.  If your country held the title of richest or 
2nd-richest country in the world, do you think that you'd take the same
mentality as you currently do?  Economy boosting is not about taking pity
on a country and trading with it because it is crying.  If you think
otherwise, then you don't understand the business world really.

> we live in a world that is so seriously fucked that no one can solve its
> problems... i say "burn it all down"...

And you called *me* gutless.


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Taliszanna <tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> ASCII art 30 Dec 2001 19:25 · permalink
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 13:11:11 -0600, Taliszanna
> <tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> sucked my dick and said:
> >	You are missing a lot of early European history then.  Europe has
> >had history for much longer than they've known Africa.
> 
> we all came from africa...

	That isn't proven.  That has only been theorized.

> >	The terrorism in the U.S.A. was an attack on THEM, not Europe and
> >it had nothing to do with S.Africa-- it was to do with Osama Bin Laden
> >wanting his name to go down in history because he's an egotistical
> >swine.
> 
> you have probably no idea how truly villainous the rulers of europe over the
> millennia were...

That reply seems like an attempt to dodge acknowledging that I have a
point.  The reply was on New York, not some European country.  The white
people of today cannot be blamed for the deeds of those that came before
they were even in existence.

> even the popes of the past have outshown his evil deeds... and i don't
> consider what obl did as evil... america continues to support israel's
> genocide against the palestinians and thus is a legitimate target...
> palestinian civilians die, it is proper that american citizens die too...

Okay, fine-- but how are you going to explain anthrax being sent to
Canada?

> i don't give a fuck what bush says... he is a fucking arsehole... bush (and
> most americans) don't give a fuck about the millions of arabs israel kills
> and oppresses... the israelis (who are all jews) 

They both kill each other-- like how in Belfast Ireland the Protestants
and the Catholics are always at each others' necks.  Nobody is innocent or
any better than the other side.

> > I know that people in Afghanistan are very poor and life is hard,
> >but tough shyte if they are bad at business.
> 
> oh fuck you... 

Hey, I didn't say that to indicate that I have no sympathy for people
dying in the street.  I know tonnes of people who have absolutely
nothing aside from the clothing on their backs and their citizenship
here.  I'm just saying that what it looks like to all of North America
is Afghanistan being pissed off because things in trade and economy
have not gone their way so they are throwing the biggest damned tantrum 
possible.  THAT is what it looks like to us.  Do you honestly expect every
country to share, share, share every bloody thing that they have with the
rest of the world?  Do you expect things to be nicey-nice in the politics
of business?  Of course they won't be!  The object of the trade world is
to do as well as you can for your company and for your country.  To the
winners go the spoils.  Those who don't kick ass every day on the economic
scene can't very well demand that we give them what we've just earned.  
The world might as well be under Communist ruling if we did that.  It is
unrealistic to have such expectations.  It is a dog-eat-dog world and no
one was ever promised less-- no matter *where* they were born.

> at 21, I cannot expect you to have a sophisticated appreciation of
> reality...

Taken a look in the mirror recently?  Some of the things that you've said
are heavily clouded by your jaded attitude and it is apparent that you
tend to paint entire groups with a single brush frequently purely for the
sake of lashing out.

> the only reason the arabs of the middle east are not poverty stricken
> wanderers of the desert was that they lucked out on oil reserves...
> 
> that has fuck all to do with being good or bad at business... 

Yes, it fucking well does.  They are generally not good at the social end
of business (yay, let us go blow up our neighbours and scare the entire 
planet away from us!).  Besides oil, they've been found in the past to 
have little to offer that the rest of the world has a great demand for.  
The rest of the world cannot be blamed for not taking interest in them.  
The world is to blame for their problems regarding the numbers of starving
people they have due to the government generally not giving a shit about
their citizens and managing foreign relations poorly.  Don't you think
that those who run the Middle Eastern countries live a very high life
while those that voted them into office are dying in the alleyway?  I know
that it is certainly that way for the Arabs...

> johannesburg is only wealthier than cape town because they have huge
> gold reserves...

And so to them go whatever spoils that that brings.

> the mongolian people lived in abject poverty in a barren geographic
> region... they grew tired of their poverty and Genghis Khan built the
> Mongolian Empire which conquered China, Persia, Russia and Eastern Europe...

He didn't sit around blaming the world because they were successful,
however-- he just accepted that they were so-- and he also didn't turn it
into a holy war in order to disguise personal motivations.

> what I'm saying is that most people just get rich by virtue of where they
> stay, but others who stay in poorer regions get fed up and take by force the
> luxury that others enjoy...

I know that and it's called pillaging.  It still doesn't make it right.
You can't possibly tell me that it does when you were so against White
people doing it. 

Also, don't try telling me that you don't think that Ghengis Khan didn't
do that for himself.  He lived a very, very wealthy lifestyle afterwards-- 
much more so than his subjects.  

> it has always happened, and the same will happen in the west... despite all
> your confidence in your military prowess, the west will be defeated 

Just because you want it to be so, it doesn't mean that it will be.  The
U.S.A. *is* very equipped and both Canada and the U.S.A. are trained
well.  I think that you'd just like to continue to fantasize that America
is a monster because you are bitter and jaded in general.

> and molten silver will be poured in your eyes and down your throats... 

Are you almost done?

> >No one ever promised them a rose garden.
> 
> we want it nonetheless and we will have it...

That is a very childish way of looking at the world.

> neither is war... hording of wealth is a declaration of war against those in
> poverty... 

Don't be ridiculous.  It is the government of one country taking care of
its own-- doing its assigned job as best as it can.  The government of
America is not responsible for the rest of the world.  The governments of
other countries are supposed to pay attention to what is in demand or are
supposed to create something that will be in demand. To believe that
everyone is supposed to share is to advocate global communism-- which
could never work.  Communism doesn't even work on one country let alone
stand the chance of working for an entire planet.

> when someone is holding a razor edged dagger to the soft spot in your throat
> and you know that within the next 5 seconds it is going to be plunged into
> your throat till it protrudes out the back of your neck, and that you will
> writhe and wriggle in pain as you choke to death on your own blood, how
> willing would you be to hand over your entire fortune for just another hour
> of life...?

You really believe that that is going to happen, don't you?  **scoff**  I
suppose that you advocate slavery too so long as it is white people.

I'm tired of this conversation.

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Taliszanna <tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> ASCII art 30 Dec 2001 19:32 · permalink
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Peter "lastfuture" Marquardt wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 20:47:42 +0100, Johannes 'Joey' Rössel
> <joh...@web.de> wrote:
> >AFAIK Hoppers (comes from Hip-Hop, which also can't be decribed as music)
> 
> well hiphop IS music.. 

	I agree-- think of it as vocal drumming.

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On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Andrew Z Carpenter wrote:

> Ahh that would be why then.  I'm behind a transparent proxy.
> 
> http://members.tripod.com/talis_white_crow/ works for me.
> 
> Tali, maybe you should advertise that version of the address,
> to ensure that everyone will be able to access it without problems?
> 

	Dang!  And I just entered the first address into a tonne of search
engines...  I'll switch the address in my signature below, however.

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On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Taliszanna wrote:

> Yes, it fucking well does.  They are generally not good at the social end
> of business (yay, let us go blow up our neighbours and scare the entire 
> planet away from us!).  Besides oil, they've been found in the past to 
> have little to offer that the rest of the world has a great demand for.  
> The rest of the world cannot be blamed for not taking interest in them.  
> The world is 

not

> to blame for their problems regarding the numbers of starving
> people they have due to the government generally not giving a shit about
> their citizens and managing foreign relations poorly.  Don't you think
> that those who run the Middle Eastern countries live a very high life
> while those that voted them into office are dying in the alleyway?  I know
> that it is certainly that way for the Arabs...

"Peter \"lastfuture\" Marquardt" <lastfuture@lastfuture.de> ASCII art 30 Dec 2001 21:09 · permalink
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:08:29 +0000 (UTC), drsquare
<now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:

>On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 17:39:18 +0100, in alt.ascii-art,
> ("Peter \"lastfuture\" Marquardt" <las...@lastfuture.de>) wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 01:43:01 +0200, Mel
>><me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> wrote:
>>
>>>>> > you know that you americans have a antidiscriminating clause
>>>>> > (dunno the real right word) and i think it's a good thing, so
>>>>> > take care of it. what you said, is just said by dumbasses.
>>>>>me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za said:
>>>>>she's prolly some redneck white trash's daughter... if not, she
>>>>>certainly can apply for the position...
>>>>>put some people under pressure and all their racial prejudices come
>>>>>pouring out... shame to see it come out of a 14yo though...
>>>>Where did Annie mention 'race?'
>>>
>>>she didn't have to... African means black... even in America...
>>
>>you know.. two friends of mine are african.. actually more than two..
>>but those two are both caucasian. still african
>>
>>so shut up and think before posting
>
>Native Africans, or immigrants?

how do you mean ..immigrants? yeah they are immigrants in germany..
but they weren't when they were in africa

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ano...@bogus_address.con 30 Dec 2001 21:26 · permalink
me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za wrote:

>  [...mercy snip...]
>
>if I believed in a god, that is my only prayer, that he destroy
>this fucking fucked up world and all its people... actually the
>animals can stay, just wipe out humanity and all that it has ever
>created and discovered... blot us out permanently... make it like
>we never even existed...

That's in the works right NOW, Melvin.  It's called AIDS,
and Ebola.  Both of which, incidentally, originated in
=Africa!=

>smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself

When can we expect YOU to personally carry out this injunc-
tion, B'wana?  Soon?

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Mel <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> wrote:

>aaaah I love it when 50yo men pose as 14yo's...

Speaking as a father of 2 girls, it gives me the shivers.

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Poster <Pos...@NoSpam.net> 31 Dec 2001 04:53 · permalink
aren't we getting into more ASCII SLANDERING than drawing...

This is supposed to be the season of CHEER and GOOD SPIRIT????

?:)

[Swedish cheese stinks (in more than one way) and Danish cheese rules]
> HAH! Dutch cheese wins every time, hands down! :-)

I haven't tried dutch cheese .. Send me some :)

Have you tried a good danish cheese ?

On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Lemming wrote:

> Mel <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> wrote:
> 
> >aaaah I love it when 50yo men pose as 14yo's...
> 
> Speaking as a father of 2 girls, it gives me the shivers.

	Please talk to your girls and tell them that if they have e-mail
friends who ever ask for their *writing* address they can have a P.O. Box
or something.  At least, that way, if they do give out an address to
receive regular mail at, you know that the person doesn't have your house
number and phone number.  Tell the girls not to give out their real names
even to the person that they give the P.O. box address to. :)

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On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, CeeJay wrote:

> I haven't tried dutch cheese .. Send me some :)

	Be careful.  You might get anthrax cheese.  I hate it when that
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Donderfliegen <ppu...@chello.balls.nl> ASCII art 1 Jan 2002 19:14 · permalink
On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 13:01:21 +0100, "CeeJay" <use...@ceejay.cjb.REMOVEnet>
provoked the following text:

>[Swedish cheese stinks (in more than one way) and Danish cheese rules]
>> HAH! Dutch cheese wins every time, hands down! :-)
>
>I haven't tried dutch cheese .. Send me some :)

By the time you'd get the cheese you'd think it's Swiss cheese :-))

>Have you tried a good danish cheese ?

Only Danish Blue and i love it! I like it even better than Roquefort.
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:53:52 +0100, "Peter \"lastfuture\" Marquardt"
<las...@lastfuture.de> sucked my dick and said:
>On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 15:06:53 +0200, Mel
><me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> wrote:
>>On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 13:12:20 -0600, Taliszanna
>><tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> sucked my dick and said:
>>>On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:
>>>> it is important to kill those who annoy...
>>>	Is that a personal value or a joke?
>>it is a value of nature... have a look around... how many lions do you know
>>who put up with constant annoyances...? lions kill annoyances... water flows
>>downhill always...
>>nature always takes the shortcut...
>ever heard of maeanders?

a lower course feature of rivers... yes... I took geography at school... and
the only reason the river meanders is because it is still the easiest way
downhill... the river lacks energy because the gradiant is slight, and
therefore is very sluggish... the slightest downhill gradient attracts the
flow of water...

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On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 15:01:44 +0100, "Peter \"lastfuture\" Marquardt"
<las...@lastfuture.de> sucked my dick and said:
>On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:47:16 +0200, Mel
><me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> wrote:
>>we in Africa know you Europeans are racists... why do you think we don't
>>give a fuck to join the US / UK crusade?
>oh yeah.. i wonder who is the racist after that statement

anyone who supports the US led "war on terrorism" supports US terror... you
implicitly support more dead 12yo palestinian youths...

you implicitly value a jew life over an arab's...

Israel is perpetrating a holocaust...

The Israelis make me sick... even a South Africa Jew, Ronnie Kasrils, an ANC
MP (Member of Parliament) has decided to speak out against Israeli
terrorism... of course many South African Jews have immediately vilified
him...

But Kasrils is right... his "not in my name" campaign is doing much to heal
the rift between Jew and Muslim in this country...

in South Africa, we do not blindly accept the US propaganda machine... we
actually can FUCKING THINK... unlike you bloody minded fucking Europeans and
Americans...

You eat everything that Bush and Blair say... you believe it, and you
support Israel no matter what that fucking butcher Sharon does...

actually, you just don't care or even bother to inform yourselves... and
then you wonder why death suddenly rains from the sky for you...

may you die in your millions until the few that remain realise that oh shit,
something is wrong with the world, and we are the fucking cause of it...

you may be only 20yo, but you should stone to death anyone who supports
Israel... only then can there be peace...

I suspect that no one in this ng even knows that Israel was formed in
blatant disregard for promises made to the Arabs who fought to wrest control
of Palestine from the Turks in 1917... The Balfour Declaration of 1917 was
made in direct contradiction to British promises to the Arabs prior to the
taking of Palestine in exchange for their help...

even today, for every Jew's blood split, two Arabs die... thanks to American
aid and European complicity...

Yeah... I hate you fucking Europeans and you fucking Americans... because
you are so fucking uninformed and naive...

If that makes me a racist, then I am proud to be against you...

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On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 17:39:18 +0100, "Peter \"lastfuture\" Marquardt"
<las...@lastfuture.de> sucked my dick and said:
>On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 01:43:01 +0200, Mel
><me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> wrote:
>>On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 20:59:12 -0000, anonymous@bogus_address.con sucked my
>>dick and said:
>>>><ann...@oal.com> wrote:
>>>> > > Annie Ascii -- budding 14-year-old ASCII artist
>>>> > >                           .,,,.
>>>> > >  ####    ####            (~~~)))   Well, you've certainly lived up
>>>> > > ##  ##  ##  ##           _ _ ((()  / to our negative expectations of
>>>> > > ######  ######           (^  ))))    an African: stupid, filthy-
>>>> > > ##  ##  ##  ##            ~_((((()   mouthed, and uncivilized. Get
>>>> > > ##  ##  ##  ##            / ))))))  some culture, moron. Ooga-booga!
>>>>"Lasse Poeppler" said:
>>>> > you know that you americans have a antidiscriminating clause
>>>> > (dunno the real right word) and i think it's a good thing, so
>>>> > take care of it. what you said, is just said by dumbasses.
>>>>me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za said:
>>>>she's prolly some redneck white trash's daughter... if not, she
>>>>certainly can apply for the position...
>>>>put some people under pressure and all their racial prejudices come
>>>>pouring out... shame to see it come out of a 14yo though...
>>>Where did Annie mention 'race?'
>>she didn't have to... African means black... even in America...
>you know.. two friends of mine are african.. actually more than two..
>but those two are both caucasian. still african
>so shut up and think before posting

No... you shut the fuck up you stupid fucking Eurocentric white trash... and
fuck your happy new year too btw...

African = Black. fucking full stop... no way around it... African = Black...

there is no white African...

a white person born in Africa IS NOT A FUCKING AFRICAN... NO NO NO...

AND NEVER FUCKING WILL BE!!!!!

If you had the first fucking clue of what it is to live in Africa you would
know that... the Blacks have reserved that term for themselves
exclusively...

if you doubt my word, go to soc.culture.south-africa and ask a gentleman
there by the name of Sabsy what he thinks...

Any white person born in an African country who thinks he has a right to
describe himself as an African is mistaken... he is white... not African...

An African has always been and always will be a Black person...

and fuck what any of you fucking Europeans and Americans think... you don't
live in Africa... I FUCKING DO... and that means I am the fucking expert on
what goes down here...

I don't try to fucking tell you about what goes down in your fucking
suburb... so don't even try to tell me what it is to live in Africa...

if your white friends who live in Africa describe themselves as African,
then they are lying to you... rather ask black people in their country if
they are African... I guarantee you they'll tell you, "no, they are
white"...

THERE ARE NO WHITE AFRICANS... they simply do not exist...

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Mel <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> ASCII art 1 Jan 2002 19:45 · permalink
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 13:25:53 -0600, Taliszanna
<tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> sucked my dick and said:
>On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 13:11:11 -0600, Taliszanna
>> <tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> sucked my dick and said:
>> >	You are missing a lot of early European history then.  Europe has
>> >had history for much longer than they've known Africa.
>> we all came from africa...
>	That isn't proven.  That has only been theorized.

no it is a fact... we all descend from a so-called Eve who lived in
Africa...

>> >	The terrorism in the U.S.A. was an attack on THEM, not Europe and
>> >it had nothing to do with S.Africa-- it was to do with Osama Bin Laden
>> >wanting his name to go down in history because he's an egotistical
>> >swine.
>> you have probably no idea how truly villainous the rulers of europe over the
>> millennia were...
>That reply seems like an attempt to dodge acknowledging that I have a
>point.

you don't have a point... what OBL did was a good thing... he forced the
world to reassess their actions... no matter what Bush and Blair prattle,
thinking people around the world are reassessing what their role was in
causing this...

it's only cunts like Bush that want Americans not to think about the shit
that America is involved in... his whole fucking dynasty has had it's hand
in world terror since whenever...

the presidents of America all share the same bloodline... they are all
closely related to one another...

and their hands are red with the blood of innocents... Bush doesn't want the
average man to know this...

>  The reply was on New York, not some European country.  The white
>people of today cannot be blamed for the deeds of those that came before
>they were even in existence.

yes, they can... someone has to bear the responsibility... the people who
were in the twin towers and the pentagon were forced to bear the
responsibility...

it's like debt which must be repaid... if your ancestors incur debt from
aeons ago but refuse to even service it, then the current generation is
saddled with it... what do you think is happening in Africa right now???
Previous corrupt governments incurred monstrous debts and now the current
generation is fucked because of it...

why do you think we demand a debt jubilee...?

Blood, however, can only be repaid in blood... because people will _never_
forgive that crime...

>> even the popes of the past have outshown his evil deeds... and i don't
>> consider what obl did as evil... america continues to support israel's
>> genocide against the palestinians and thus is a legitimate target...
>> palestinian civilians die, it is proper that american citizens die too...
>Okay, fine-- but how are you going to explain anthrax being sent to
>Canada?

sharing the joy...?

>> i don't give a fuck what bush says... he is a fucking arsehole... bush (and
>> most americans) don't give a fuck about the millions of arabs israel kills
>> and oppresses... the israelis (who are all jews) 
>They both kill each other-- like how in Belfast Ireland the Protestants
>and the Catholics are always at each others' necks.  Nobody is innocent or
>any better than the other side.

One is right and the other is wrong... definitely... when two claims for
legitimacy are made which are mutually exclusive, then either one or neither
are valid... but not both...

Northern Ireland must be vacated by the British... that is the only
solution, and until the fucking British get out, the problem continues...

they should just fucking leave overnight... just hand it fucking over...

If your clan has a person who comes over and kills one of my clan, and then
I retaliate and kill some of yours which sparks a millennia long feud, I am
still right and you are still wrong, because your clan started it... thus
all the blood is on your hands...

there is no other way to see it...

>> > I know that people in Afghanistan are very poor and life is hard,
>> >but tough shyte if they are bad at business.
>> oh fuck you... 
>Hey, I didn't say that to indicate that I have no sympathy for people
>dying in the street.  I know tonnes of people who have absolutely
>nothing aside from the clothing on their backs and their citizenship
>here.  I'm just saying that what it looks like to all of North America
>is Afghanistan being pissed off because things in trade and economy
>have not gone their way so they are throwing the biggest damned tantrum 
>possible.

it's about the Israeli genocide of the Palestinian people... America arms
and aids Israel, hence they are as guilty as Israel...

America allows its defence contractors to profit from the deaths of 5yo
Palestinians... and every American is bathed in blood... and so they are all
legitimate targets...

>  THAT is what it looks like to us.  Do you honestly expect every
>country to share, share, share every bloody thing that they have with the
>rest of the world?

yes... I don't expect people to continue to think that they can store up 10
times the resources they need when there are people dying from lack of
resources...

capitalism is evil... pure evil... it is slavery... and it empowers the
sickest most vile sadistic creatures...

>  Do you expect things to be nicey-nice in the politics
>of business?

yes...

>  Of course they won't be!

then they will attract bullets... as they do...

>  The object of the trade world is
>to do as well as you can for your company and for your country.

yes, that is capitalism and it is a bankrupt philosophy...

everyone knows that co-operation is a much better and sustainable economic
practice...

but it does mean less of a concentration of resources... so it is less
attractive to the evil greed of man...

greed in turn attracts crime... and that is why crime has spiralled out of
control in this world...

on the one hand we have unimaginable prosperity for very few individuals and
on the other hand we have crime ravaging society...

>  To the winners go the spoils.

hence the motivation for the "losers" to shortcut the process and use
weapons to achieve wealth...

the capitalists write the rules of business and declare breaking the rules
as "crime"... but the rules are stacked in their favour...

for example...

you have $1000 dollars... you wish to profit by loaning this amount to
people who will pay you interest... how much can you loan? $1000... @ 10%
interest per annum you receive an income of $100 pa...

a bank has $1000 dollars... how much can it loan? $25 000 (assuming a
mandatory 4% reserve)... @ 10% interest pa, earnings are $2500 pa...

on the same capital amount...

this is just one example of how the evil capitalists write their rules so
that they can always out earn you... and thus control you, because their
greater wealth delivers to them greater _real_ power...

the game you play is catch up... as you try to jump through the hoops so
that you can enjoy earning parity, the goalposts are already being
shifted...

government is the biggest scam... they write the rules for their capitalist
buddies (who buy them) to always ensure they have the upperhand...

you probably don't want to believe this, but trust me, this is how the game
works...

>  Those who don't kick ass every day on the economic
>scene can't very well demand that we give them what we've just earned.

the system must be destroyed from the top down... not the bottom up... I
don't want your pennies... I want to destroy those who have locked up the
world's trillions... these people's families have earned their wealth over
centuries from all manner of shit deals... like the Kennedy's whose wealth
comes from Opium smuggling (into China during the 1800s) and alcohol
bootlegging (during the Prohibition)...

now they have asset snatching laws to prevent the current generation
following in their footsteps...

I'm telling you with a straight face, that this world is under the control
of the most unscrupulous evil twisted capitalist shits the planet has ever
known...
  
>The world might as well be under Communist ruling if we did that.

there should be no central government... only points of administration...
and everyone should work for the good of all...

but finding a better method of organising society is a non-trivial
exercise...

> It is
>unrealistic to have such expectations.  It is a dog-eat-dog world and no
>one was ever promised less-- no matter *where* they were born.

well dog eat dog implies that crime and lack is built into the system... the
capitalist system does not allow parity... it locks people into an unfair
system which keeps the ruling class in power...

hence it must be destroyed...

>> at 21, I cannot expect you to have a sophisticated appreciation of
>> reality...
>Taken a look in the mirror recently?  Some of the things that you've said
>are heavily clouded by your jaded attitude and it is apparent that you
>tend to paint entire groups with a single brush frequently purely for the
>sake of lashing out.

I am jaded because I have seen how things work... and it is truly sick...

>> the only reason the arabs of the middle east are not poverty stricken
>> wanderers of the desert was that they lucked out on oil reserves...
>> that has fuck all to do with being good or bad at business... 
>Yes, it fucking well does.

no it does not...

>  They are generally not good at the social end
>of business (yay, let us go blow up our neighbours and scare the entire 
>planet away from us!).

OPEC nations are extremely wealthy and money continues to pour in... and in
Saudia Arabia an oppressive royalty is in power... they don't share their
wealth with their subjects evenly... they grab resources so that they may
have power and status and control... this is sick...

>  Besides oil, they've been found in the past to 
>have little to offer that the rest of the world has a great demand for.

it is enough... the world falls over itself to keep the oil flowing...

>The rest of the world cannot be blamed for not taking interest in them.  
>The world is to blame for their problems regarding the numbers of starving
>people they have due to the government generally not giving a shit about
>their citizens and managing foreign relations poorly.  Don't you think
>that those who run the Middle Eastern countries live a very high life
>while those that voted them into office are dying in the alleyway?  I know
>that it is certainly that way for the Arabs...

yes... it is the evil capitalist system...

>> johannesburg is only wealthier than cape town because they have huge
>> gold reserves...
>And so to them go whatever spoils that that brings.

and Johannesburg is the one city in South Africa that has the highest rate
of violent crimes... wealth is unevenly distributed... the filthy rich
living next door to the starving masses...

the lesson staring us all in the face is a very simple one... either give
your wealth freely and willingly to alleviate their mass suffering or live
in the chaos of perpetual and real fear of imminent death...

the mass of suffering people know that all they have to do is to stretch out
their hands and take from those who have a surfeit to ease their
suffering... and so they do... and it gets messy...

do you know that I will work my entire life and never become a billionaire
unless by incredible fluke...? don't quote me the examples of the
exceptional people, look at the average person to discover the truth...

the westerner has been brainwashed to think in a particular direction... you
don't give to these people, because they didn't "earn it"... they must earn
your wealth at R5/hour... those are your rules... clearly the masses don't
approve, they'd rather rob you of all your valuables in under an hour...

so something must give, and it does... your life gives out when the young
black chap squirts hot lead into your pathetically fat white body, pulls it
out of your bmw, jumps in and drives off...

this happens every hour every day in Johannesburg...

>> the mongolian people lived in abject poverty in a barren geographic
>> region... they grew tired of their poverty and Genghis Khan built the
>> Mongolian Empire which conquered China, Persia, Russia and Eastern Europe...
>He didn't sit around blaming the world because they were successful,
>however-- he just accepted that they were so-- and he also didn't turn it
>into a holy war in order to disguise personal motivations.

but what he did was he demolished the cities of the wealthy, plundered their
immense wealth and tortured the people to death...

>> what I'm saying is that most people just get rich by virtue of where they
>> stay, but others who stay in poorer regions get fed up and take by force the
>> luxury that others enjoy...
>I know that and it's called pillaging.  It still doesn't make it right.
>You can't possibly tell me that it does when you were so against White
>people doing it.

the spaniards had immense wealth before they demolished the Inca Empire...
that was just pure fucking greed...

the mongols did some pillaging because they had fuck all to begin with...

you see most ordinary people like you and me don't want to rule the world...
we just want enough to live a happy contented life... royalty otoh doesn't
think like that... they want immense wealth and even more... the more
wealth, the greater their power... they all want to rule the world... and
they do...

the Bushes and Clintons all descend from ancient royal family bloodlines...

the people who rule the world write the rules of capitalism and horde
immense wealth... they don't want to grant a debt jubilee... they want to
maintain control over Africa by means of our indebtedness... they'd sooner
see us die by the million than give us a break... all for the sake of their
lust for power and control...

>Also, don't try telling me that you don't think that Ghengis Khan didn't
>do that for himself.  He lived a very, very wealthy lifestyle afterwards-- 
>much more so than his subjects.  

he fucked the women and rode off on the horses... yes...

he was merely operating within the parameters of the system... the
capitalists of this world do not withhold themselves from violence to
achieve their ends... they send in their troops...

but you can't send in your troops... that makes you a criminal... or <gasp>
a terrorist!!!

until you achieve critical mass... then you're no longer a terrorist, but a
legitimate leader to be negotiated with... this means that they no longer
have sufficient power to defeat you outright... so they respect you... they
only respect raw power... if OBL commanded an army the size of China, the US
would be taking him seriously...

>> it has always happened, and the same will happen in the west... despite all
>> your confidence in your military prowess, the west will be defeated 
>Just because you want it to be so, it doesn't mean that it will be.  The
>U.S.A. *is* very equipped and both Canada and the U.S.A. are trained
>well.  I think that you'd just like to continue to fantasize that America
>is a monster because you are bitter and jaded in general.

if you truly understood the nature of the people who command the countries
of the West, you'd want them dead right now...

JFK was eliminated because he didn't want to play the "old boys" game and
have a nice little war in vietnam... johnson was no fool though, he sent in
the troops like he was told to... and he got rewarded...

>> and molten silver will be poured in your eyes and down your throats... 
>Are you almost done?

that's what Genghis Khan did to the people he defeated...

nowadays the US just drops a couple of daisy cutters...

>> >No one ever promised them a rose garden.
>> we want it nonetheless and we will have it...
>That is a very childish way of looking at the world.

welcome to the way the world currently works...

>> neither is war... hording of wealth is a declaration of war against those in
>> poverty... 
>Don't be ridiculous.

of course it is... if you grab all the resources, even those for which you
have no need, you cause others to die for lack of them... that is an act of
war...

>  It is the government of one country taking care of
>its own-- doing its assigned job as best as it can.

the people in charge of this world only care about manipulating countries to
their own ends... the needs of the common people are low down the priority
chain...

any and all aid exercises are mere PR to assuage the world... while behind
the scenes countries which do not play the "old boy" game are kept in
poverty...

do you think that Robert Mugabe is a poor man? He has destroyed the
agricultural economy of Zimbabwe and precipitated mass starvation, but do
you think he will lose 1kg of weight...?

Bob is doing exactly what his bosses have told him to do... fuck his country
up... for that he will be rewarded...

btw a trend in this world is hatred of Muslims... wherever in the world you
go, Muslims are being persecuted... someone has given the order to hurt
Muslims... and it's being carried out...

>  The government of
>America is not responsible for the rest of the world.

the government of America does not even care for America let alone the rest
of the world... they're the biggest bunch of evil conniving thieves...

>  The governments of
>other countries are supposed to pay attention to what is in demand or are
>supposed to create something that will be in demand.

government serves its own perverted self-interests...

> To believe that
>everyone is supposed to share is to advocate global communism-- which
>could never work.

how do you know...? it has never been attempted... and certainly Stalinism
and other Russian variants were just more government oppression than true
communism...

communism in its purest form is you... you care... you have told me in your
postings... you would give to someone in need if you had surplus...

I know I would, because I have already done so myself... if we got rid of
all these wicked greedy people in charge of the world and allowed the people
of the world the opportunity to reinvent human society where we don't race
each other to accumulate hordes of wealth but instead put the emphasis on
seeing that everyone is looked after, I believe we could invent a world
worth living for and in...

it would never be perfect, but it would be a lot better...

>  Communism doesn't even work on one country let alone
>stand the chance of working for an entire planet.

Communism works in many circumstances... when you share your lemons with
your neighbour because he is your neighbour, you are being a good little
commie...

communism is best practised by ordinary people acting in accordance with a
new co-operative spirit of human enterprise... we need to change the way we
view things... we don't need a government to tell us what to do, we need to
do what we instinctively know is the best thing...

we need to also not want to control others... give without trying to
coerce... because that is the method of our society now... I'll help you,
now I own you...

>> when someone is holding a razor edged dagger to the soft spot in your throat
>> and you know that within the next 5 seconds it is going to be plunged into
>> your throat till it protrudes out the back of your neck, and that you will
>> writhe and wriggle in pain as you choke to death on your own blood, how
>> willing would you be to hand over your entire fortune for just another hour
>> of life...?
>You really believe that that is going to happen, don't you?

it happens all the time... every day... I've been mugged... I have the scar
tissue to prove it...

> **scoff** I suppose that you advocate slavery too so long as it is white people.

if you wanna be my slave, I'm happy to have you... heh...

>I'm tired of this conversation.

awwwww... wanna hug...?

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On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 21:26:49 -0000, anonymous@bogus_address.con sucked my
dick and said:
>me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za wrote:
>>  [...mercy snip...]
>>if I believed in a god, that is my only prayer, that he destroy
>>this fucking fucked up world and all its people... actually the
>>animals can stay, just wipe out humanity and all that it has ever
>>created and discovered... blot us out permanently... make it like
>>we never even existed...
>That's in the works right NOW, Melvin.  It's called AIDS,
>and Ebola.  Both of which, incidentally, originated in
>=Africa!=

both created by CIA funded laboratories as part of their racist plot to
exterminate Africans...

but we will use these biological weapons against you fuckers... wait and
see...

Enjoy the plague... it's coming soon...

you will die in your millions...

>>smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
>When can we expect YOU to personally carry out this injunc-
>tion, B'wana?  Soon?

you honky, are gonna die soon... send me a postcard from hell...

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On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 23:58:42 +0000, Lemming <l3m...@bumblbee.demon.co.uk>
sucked my dick and said:
>Mel <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> wrote:
>>aaaah I love it when 50yo men pose as 14yo's...
>Speaking as a father of 2 girls, it gives me the shivers.

wrap them in cottonwool...

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On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:27:02 -0600, Taliszanna
<tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> sucked my dick and said:
>On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Lemming wrote:
>> Mel <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> wrote:
>> >aaaah I love it when 50yo men pose as 14yo's...
>> Speaking as a father of 2 girls, it gives me the shivers.
>	Please talk to your girls and tell them that if they have e-mail
>friends who ever ask for their *writing* address they can have a P.O. Box
>or something.  At least, that way, if they do give out an address to
>receive regular mail at, you know that the person doesn't have your house
>number and phone number.  Tell the girls not to give out their real names
>even to the person that they give the P.O. box address to. :)

not necessary to get paranoid... most 50yo perverts just wanna cum online...

it's the 30yo perverts you gotta watch for... heh heh heh... :-)

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On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 12:38:35 -0600, Taliszanna
<tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> sucked my dick and said:
>On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:
>> but white people definitely _do_ suck... of all the people on the face of
>> the world, white people are the most wretched perverted evil fuckers... and
>> I'm a white person just btw...
>	I disagree, (and not simply because I am 3 parts white).  I think
>that it is about equal everywhere-- it's juat that in the past, countries
>that were run by white people had the funds to wield their barbarism as a
>weapon because the countries knew business & trade well and probably
>also had pillaged someone.  I believe that any nation that has power would
>use it to control another nation.  In governments, even the most
>well-meaning person, given the right kind of power, will attempt to use it
>over someone else.  The *way* in which it is used is how to measure the
>quality of that being.

maybe... except we have only the white example... as the dominant culture on
the planet...

>> the white person is the one who brought so-called civilisation to the
>> world... it is the white person who took by force what the native people
>> had...
>	You are speaking about White people in past tense but are you
>keeping an eye on the fact that those who ran the Indian schools are not
>the current generation or our parents' generation?  Or the fact that we
>cannot be blamed for the deeds of the European Explorers in the
>1700's?  Be sure, during highschool when we were taught about the history
>of our own country, I felt ashamed of many of Canada's forefathers.  When
>I read about the things that were done to the First Nations indian peoples
>here I was enraged and when I watched movies regarding slavery of black
>African-Americans, I was nearly sick to my stomach at how disgusting
>humans can be.  However, I will not write off every White person as evil
>because of what their ancestors may have done, whatever country their
>roots lie in.

past wrongs need to be redressed in the present... no words of apology are
needed... only actions demonstrating remorse...

>> the white people are just fucking users... have always been and continue to
>> be such... they don't give a shit that the victims of centuries and
>> millennia of their racist policies are reduced to dying of starvation...
>There are many who do and do something about it.  Following them, there
>are many who do care, but do not have the funds to lend or the opportunity
>to actually physically lend a hand because they have children that they
>owe money, time and love to first and foremost.  Then, as with any people,
>there are people who are selfish even within their own community and live
>in a little bubble of a world where they are the big shiny star.  Humans
>of all types exist in every group.  It is unavoidable.

the greedy financiers of this world are the ones to target, not the
housewives...

>> instead they bitch that they cannot afford a new SUV...
>	Not every white person gives a crap about getting the better car,
>you know.  It is an illusion to believe so.

most are preoccupied by the trivialities of their own lives...

>> ag, I just want the whole of humanity to die soon... because we truly do not
>> have the right to exist anymore... we have fucked this planet on its head...
>> and we spend all day thinking of new ways to fuck each other...
>	Yes, it is true that humankind has very much screwed the planet
>over, but there are those of us who try to change things for the
>better.  I try as hard as I can-- recycling like mad, helping others to
>help themselves, volunteering, cleaning up our parks and the riverbank,
>donating blood (whenever my veins don't collapse), creating most of my own
>cosmetics instead of buying those that test on animals, (*sometimes people
>give me animal-tested stuff so I feel like I have to use it, but I think
>about the animals while I wear their sacrifice and honour them).  I give
>my old books to those who come from families that have trouble buying 
>their own, I look after the birds around here so that they don't die from
>the cold in the winter, I had my cat neutered so that she wouldn't
>contribute to the stray cat problem that we have, and I look out for
>people younger than me who are going through the confusion and angst of
>teenagerdom.  I buy 2nd hand clothing and turn the leather jackets that
>nobody wants into something so that the animal didn't die in vain, I
>don't waste energy or heat, respect even the smallest insects, and 
>encourage others to do all of these things as well.  I give back to the
>earth.  **smile**  We don't all suck.

one person can make a difference it is true... but we have billions of
people contributing daily to the global crisis...

you repeatedly dispute culpability by saying that people are not _directly_
responsible for the shit that happens...

here is one concrete example...

http://www.mcspotlight.org

every time anyone eats a McDonalds meal they destroy the planet...

without even realising it...

every time we drive our cars, we kill the planet...

obviously people need to be better informed and we need environmentally
sound alternatives... but the market speaks loudly... planet friendly
methods of transport are available... but at greater cost... chief of which
is a huge investment in new infrastructure...

who among us will inventory the world around us and speak out and demand
that we change the way we live...? who will provide us with bullet proof
vests when the big corporates hire hit squads...? (don't even think this
does not happen!)

I can't do it all on my own...

for starters we can summarily close McDonalds down and distribute their
entire fortune to those who need it the most...

>> and the indicator of how sick the human mind is, is evidenced by the
>> phenomenon known as religion... even you, who seem reasonably intelligent,
>> have decided that some non-existent goddess spoke to you... 
>	I did not "decide"-- I began to hear her name at odd, completely
>random moments when I was deeply involved in reading novels or studying
>something that had nothing to do with Her, then I kept seeing Her name
>all over the place.  It was far too much coincidence for me when it kept 
>happening over 1/2 a year, out of the blue.  She is non-existent to you
>if you decide that She is, but just because you decide such a thing does
>not make it absolute for the rest of the world.  There are some things
>that exist whether you want them to or not and whether or not they touch
>your consciousness.

look, tally, I respect you, okay... but I can't believe that your goddess
exists... sorry...

>> you have successfully deluded yourself with a lie... you cannot prove
>> your goddess' existence, 
>Just as you cannot disprove Her.

I believe that it is more plausible that your mind played tricks on you...

>> yet you choose to believe in spite of no evidence...
>I have personal evidence.  I tend to be one of those folks who requires
>such before believing in anything.

I _require_ physical manifestation in front of me... something that I can
experience with all my 5 senses...

I experience the chair I sit on it that way (well I don't taste it
anymore)...

I have never touched or seen directly a gold bullion bar... but I have seen
a gold ring... so I know it is possible to collect enough gold in one place
to form a solid bar of it... but I have experienced no physical trace of any
deity...

>> that's what humans do... they choose to believe in a make-believe reality
>> that is better than the shithole actual reality, for the obvious reason...
>> fantasy realities are more palatable to our overactive imaginative brains...
>No, it's like this: no matter where a person comes from, in the end that
>person will decide whatever he or she wants to.  You have done no
>differently.  Reality is generally relative.

our brains are amazing... they are capable of powerful imagery... they are
also extremely prone to delusion... religion it now appears is a feature of
our brain's functionality...

now this represents a chicken and egg kind of dilemma... a religious person
would argue that god put that in our brains as evidence of his existence...
however a non-religious person like myself prefers to see this as a quirk of
evolution and possibly a flaw...

since the brain is not yet fully understood it is possible that this part of
our brain does more than just conjure up religious fervour...

i believe it is dangerous to extrapolate the existence of deity from the
fact that a portion of our brain is a 'devotion centre'...

>> and that is why there is _ZERO_ hope for humanity and should not be...
>> because our brains are not capable of dealing with the goddawful reality of
>> existence... so we invent alternative nicer realities...
>And you expect what as an alternative if we were to embrace *your*
>reality?

yes... because it is nearer the truth... life is not pretty... for the most
part it is a pretty sordid affair...

> It would be great to believe in the lack of existence of good
>things in the world and be miserable and want to die?

I did not create it... it was already here when I was born... so shoot the
messenger...

you wish me to weave you pretty tales of victorian days gone by...? I
believe Enid Blyton has covered that already...

> I have known
>several atheists in my time, but none of them were so down on the planet
>as you seem to be, Mel.

oh dear... I'm wrong... the planet isn't really hopelessly polluted...
Canada has not really exhausted its stocks of fish... the sea is not really
going to rise several metres in the near future... a huge meteor is not
going to strike the earth and obliterate all life...

>  They tried to make the very best of every day and
>of themselves.

wishful thinking does not make it so...

>  They believed in science and they were awake to the things
>that were going on around the world, but they didn't give up on
>themselves.

we live in a finite universe... a day begins and a day ends... a species is
born and a species is extinguished... so it will be with man...

>> humanity as a whole is damaged goods... we are all in a state of the deepest
>> trauma possible...
>Gee, that's nice and depressing but it's not a reason to abandon anything
>that I've worked for or that I care about.

you won't... because on a practical level one gets on with the job of
surviving... just like I do... I get up, get showered, shaved & dressed and
go to work...

but at a deeper level we perceive larger truths...

>> why do you think people so easily become nazis...? 
>Because it was done in a very crafty way.  The people were poor and
>desperate and Hitler marched onto the scene promising massive improvement
>in the economy as well as avengement-- not to mention that he was highly
>intelligent, was excellent at public speech, and had the gift of
>psychology on his side.  It was genius-level brainwashing if you take a
>look at exactly how it was done... and many people in Germany didn't
>realise what was happening until it was upon them in such a force as that
>all that they could do was either join the Nazi ranks and fight the Nazis
>from the inside or flee the country.

the nazis yearned for the day of television... so that they could beam their
bullshit into every house...

today that is accomplished by people who think little differently from the
nazis... I give you CNN - a propaganda machine Goebbels would have slathered
to have...

>> do you think that that mentality died with the Nazi Reich...? 
>Of course not.  I know people who support Nazi values despite that they
>themselves would have been targets if they'd been germans of the late
>1930's-- people with learning disabilities, of gypsy heritage, or who are
>gay.  Hell, I know a Native guy who was raised in a white household and is
>a Nazi.  Explain that one to me...

he wants to be on the winning team... the nazis control this planet... just
covertly...

>> wake up please... people hate each other... 
>I never doubted that.  You claimed that religions hate.  My reply was "No, 
>people do".  Sounds to me like I agreed with you.

well my point was that religions delude people into believing that they love
others by persecuting them mercilessly for not following their religion...

>> and we destroy each other every opportunity we get... 
>I, myself, have never killed anyone.

I read somewhere that the average Westerner is indirectly responsible for
the deaths of 1.8 people... think of the dispossessed tribes of the South
American rain forests...

>> either with bullets or economic oppression... most of
>> this world lives in abject poverty with _zero_ hope of a better future...
>> those few 8% who enjoy a life of luxury in the west (and elsewhere but
>> mostly in the west) do so at the expense of everyone else and the planet's
>> environment...
>Here in the west we have been successful at setting ourselves up over a
>long period of time.

at the cost of others' lives...

> If your country held the title of richest or 
>2nd-richest country in the world, do you think that you'd take the same
>mentality as you currently do?

well, give us the opportunity first... then we'll see...

>  Economy boosting is not about taking pity
>on a country and trading with it because it is crying.  If you think
>otherwise, then you don't understand the business world really.

I live and breathe in the business world, darling... have been doing so for
many years now... I'm 34yo...

>> we live in a world that is so seriously fucked that no one can solve its
>> problems... i say "burn it all down"...
>And you called *me* gutless.

well it's not going to happen... it's just my wishful thinking... actually I
wish for some solutions first...

by the time I am 44 I want to have done just one thing that will make people
think twice about what they do in their ordinary lives that kills this
planet...

I think I must learn to fly...

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On Tue, 01 Jan 2002 21:45:43 +0200, Mel <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> wrote:

>
>African = Black. fucking full stop... no way around it... African = Black...
>
>there is no white African...
>
>a white person born in Africa IS NOT A FUCKING AFRICAN... NO NO NO...
>
>AND NEVER FUCKING WILL BE!!!!!
>
>If you had the first fucking clue of what it is to live in Africa you would
>know that... the Blacks have reserved that term for themselves
>exclusively...

o-k, I buy this. you are Dutch.

>
>Any white person born in an African country who thinks he has a right to
>describe himself as an African is mistaken... he is white... not African...
>
>An African has always been and always will be a Black person...
>
 blah blah blah
>
>I don't try to fucking tell you about what goes down in your fucking
>suburb... so don't even try to tell me what it is to live in Africa...

lier

blah blah 

On Tue, 01 Jan 2002 21:45:51 +0200, Mel <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> wrote:

>
>both created by CIA funded laboratories as part of their racist plot to
>exterminate Africans...
>
 you use interesting drugs

On Tue, 01 Jan 2002 21:45:53 +0200, Mel <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> wrote:


>
>it's the 30yo perverts you gotta watch for... heh heh heh... :-)
>

you talkin trash about yourself agin pudsputter?

On Tue, 01 Jan 2002 21:48:55 +0200, Mel <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> wrote:



you seem to be lost pudsputter, the mental masturbation usegroup is that way --->

On Tue, 01 Jan 2002 21:45:39 +0200, Mel <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> wrote:

>
>anyone who supports the US led "war on terrorism" supports US terror... you
>implicitly support more dead 12yo palestinian youths...
>
>you implicitly value a jew life over an arab's...

they are related you know

>
>Israel is perpetrating a holocaust...

there may be some truth in this, both the Israilies and the palestinians need to 
realise that should EITHER of them cease to exist, the other will as well,
and in short order.

However this isnt the forum for this discussion. Take your views to a better forum.


>
blah blah blah

>in South Africa, we do not blindly accept the US propaganda machine... we
>actually can FUCKING THINK... unlike you bloody minded fucking Europeans and
>Americans...
>
>You eat everything that Bush and Blair say... you believe it, and you
>support Israel no matter what that fucking butcher Sharon does...
>
>actually, you just don't care or even bother to inform yourselves... and
>then you wonder why death suddenly rains from the sky for you...

lemme see, it was the White arabs in south africa that did this?


>you may be only 20yo, but you should stone to death anyone who supports
>Israel... only then can there be peace...

violence begats violence, you never learn.

>
>even today, for every Jew's blood split, two Arabs die... thanks to American
>aid and European complicity...
>

violence begats violence, both sides over there dont want to learn, either.

Taliszanna <tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> wrote:

>        You are going on the principle, however, that the book was not a
> joke to begin with.  It is the book that I take the least seriously out of
> all.

You are going on the principle, however, that you can buy the real
Necronomicon at amazon.com. :)

It is hard to take seriously a book that doesn't exist.

	contraffattamente,
	    Cthulhu

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On 01 Jan 2002 20:56:23 GMT, mik...@bluedwarf.spam.net (MJP) sucked
my dick and said:
>On Tue, 01 Jan 2002 21:45:43 +0200, Mel <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> wrote:
>>African = Black. fucking full stop... no way around it... African = Black...
>>there is no white African...
>>a white person born in Africa IS NOT A FUCKING AFRICAN... NO NO NO...
>>AND NEVER FUCKING WILL BE!!!!!
>>If you had the first fucking clue of what it is to live in Africa you would
>>know that... the Blacks have reserved that term for themselves
>>exclusively...
>o-k, I buy this. you are Dutch.

wrong... I hate the fucking BOERE...

>>Any white person born in an African country who thinks he has a right to
>>describe himself as an African is mistaken... he is white... not African...
>>An African has always been and always will be a Black person...
> blah blah blah
>>I don't try to fucking tell you about what goes down in your fucking
>>suburb... so don't even try to tell me what it is to live in Africa...
>lier
>blah blah 

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On 01 Jan 2002 20:57:42 GMT, mik...@bluedwarf.spam.net (MJP) sucked
my dick and said:
>On Tue, 01 Jan 2002 21:45:51 +0200, Mel <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> wrote:
>>both created by CIA funded laboratories as part of their racist plot to
>>exterminate Africans...
> you use interesting drugs

crack...

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On 01 Jan 2002 20:58:34 GMT, mik...@bluedwarf.spam.net (MJP) sucked
my dick and said:
>On Tue, 01 Jan 2002 21:45:53 +0200, Mel <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> wrote:
>>it's the 30yo perverts you gotta watch for... heh heh heh... :-)
>you talkin trash about yourself agin pudsputter?

oh yes...

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On 01 Jan 2002 21:00:00 GMT, mik...@bluedwarf.spam.net (MJP) sucked
my dick and said:
>On Tue, 01 Jan 2002 21:48:55 +0200, Mel <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> wrote:
>you seem to be lost pudsputter, the mental masturbation usegroup is that way --->

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

pissed you off...

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On 01 Jan 2002 21:06:59 GMT, mik...@bluedwarf.spam.net (MJP) sucked
my dick and said:
>On Tue, 01 Jan 2002 21:45:39 +0200, Mel <me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> wrote:
>>anyone who supports the US led "war on terrorism" supports US terror... you
>>implicitly support more dead 12yo palestinian youths...
>>you implicitly value a jew life over an arab's...
>they are related you know

we are all related...

>>Israel is perpetrating a holocaust...
>there may be some truth in this, both the Israilies and the palestinians need to 
>realise that should EITHER of them cease to exist, the other will as well,
>and in short order.

they symbiotic parasites...?

>However this isnt the forum for this discussion. Take your views to a better forum.

no.

>blah blah blah
>>in South Africa, we do not blindly accept the US propaganda machine... we
>>actually can FUCKING THINK... unlike you bloody minded fucking Europeans and
>>Americans...
>>You eat everything that Bush and Blair say... you believe it, and you
>>support Israel no matter what that fucking butcher Sharon does...
>>actually, you just don't care or even bother to inform yourselves... and
>>then you wonder why death suddenly rains from the sky for you...
>lemme see, it was the White arabs in south africa that did this?

no.

>>you may be only 20yo, but you should stone to death anyone who supports
>>Israel... only then can there be peace...
>violence begats violence, you never learn.

no. WWII showed that greater force makes peace...

>>even today, for every Jew's blood split, two Arabs die... thanks to American
>>aid and European complicity...
>violence begats violence, both sides over there dont want to learn, either.

when two sides are fairly equally matched, there is just a continual
bloodbath...

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ano...@bogus_address.con 2 Jan 2002 00:52 · permalink
On 2002-01-01 me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za said:

   >  [...snip...]
   >
   >...the presidents of America all share the same bloodline...
   >they are all closely related to one another...
   >
   >...the Bushes and Clintons all descend from ancient royal
   >family bloodlines...
   >
   >...these people's families have earned their wealth
   >over centuries from all manner of shit deals... like the
   >Kennedy's whose wealth comes from Opium smuggling (into
   >China during the 1800s) and alcohol bootlegging (during the
   >Prohibition)...
   >
   >...JFK was eliminated because he didn't want to play the
   >"old boys" game and have a nice little war in vietnam...

Heh!  Melvin, you're an idiot.

You've pumped yourself so full of leftist B.S., you don't
know WHAT you believe...as evidenced by your contradictory
ramblings, quoted above.

You also have no insight into the innate characteristics
of human nature.

Brought down to its most fundamental level, human nature is
comprised essentially of jealousy, vanity, lust and greed.

If you took an average nigger off the streets of Jo'burg
and gave him 10 billion Rand, a large comfortable house,
and several fancy cars, do you think he would 'share the
wealth' with his less-fortunate compatriots?

Hell, NO!  He'd start using and oppressing his brethren
for his own selfish purposes.  And YOU would, too.

That's human nature, son.

But your biggest error is looking for answers through some
communal endeavor.  That will NEVER work...because of the
inherent characteristics of human nature (outlined above).

In the idealized 'peoples republic' which you described,
it would take only one Warburg, or Stalin, or Gill Bates
-- just ONE megalomaniac -- to attain a little bit of
power within your bureaucracy, and you'd eventually be
faced with the same problems all over again.

That's human nature, you silly little git.

The concept of 'redistribution of wealth' is a fallacious
pipe-dream, intended to appeal to the 'have-nots'...who
are generally so stupid and unsophisticated about eco-
nomics that they can't see they're being flim-flammed.

Fact is, if ALL THE 'WEALTH' IN THE WORLD was evenly
're-distributed' among all the =people= in the world, 
EVERYBODY would be living in poverty.

And even THEN, there'd be some Gill Bates-style megalo-
maniac who would figure out a way to separate people from
whatever little bit of money they have.

That's human nature, you idiot Honky.

Get real.  Get a brain.  Get some insight.  Smash your
modem, reboot, and kill yourself.  Or at least take
your idiotic polemic to a different newsgroup.

mel is just full of fecal matter.

all that drivel was just to rant and seem to have a foundation to stand on.

he/she/it lives in south africa where abuse of the Africans (mel's term)
is not only commonplace but encouraged.
mel is obviously of the upper class since mel has a computer and a domain name
(supposedly) and on the African continent I think that its safe to say having 
access to a computer not to mention owning one would be limited to those
in the very position "mel" is taking the stance against: people with money.

I think the time has come to not post back to, or even read his fecal effluence.

On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 13:58:15 -0600, Taliszanna
<tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Andrew Z Carpenter wrote:
> 
> > Ahh that would be why then.  I'm behind a transparent proxy.
> > 
> > http://members.tripod.com/talis_white_crow/ works for me.
> > 
> > Tali, maybe you should advertise that version of the address,
> > to ensure that everyone will be able to access it without problems?
> 
> 	Dang!  And I just entered the first address into a tonne of search
> engines...  I'll switch the address in my signature below, however.

Thanks! BTW, when I visited your site a couple of weeks ago, I think
some links were relative but some were absolute links of the sort
http://talis_white_crow.tripod.com/blabla.html ; those would continue
not to work for people behind proxies.

So if you have a lot of time, changing absolute links to relative ones
would be appreciated :)

Cheers,
Philip
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That really is my address; no need to remove anything to reply.
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

On Wed, 02 Jan 2002 00:52:58 -0000, anonymous@bogus_address.con sucked my
dick and said:
>On 2002-01-01 me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za said:
>   >  [...snip...]
>   >...the presidents of America all share the same bloodline...
>   >they are all closely related to one another...
>   >...the Bushes and Clintons all descend from ancient royal
>   >family bloodlines...
>   >...these people's families have earned their wealth
>   >over centuries from all manner of shit deals... like the
>   >Kennedy's whose wealth comes from Opium smuggling (into
>   >China during the 1800s) and alcohol bootlegging (during the
>   >Prohibition)...
>   >...JFK was eliminated because he didn't want to play the
>   >"old boys" game and have a nice little war in vietnam...
>Heh!  Melvin, you're an idiot.

actually I've done the research... you're just doing the poo pooing... back
in yer box...!

>You've pumped yourself so full of leftist B.S., you don't
>know WHAT you believe...as evidenced by your contradictory
>ramblings, quoted above.

not contradictory... the fact that the Kennedy family is part of the ancient
bloodline ruling class does not mean that they're protected from being
killed should they wander from what the Brotherhood wants...

>You also have no insight into the innate characteristics
>of human nature.

yer an idiot... proved by the above sentence...

>Brought down to its most fundamental level, human nature is
>comprised essentially of jealousy, vanity, lust and greed.

yes... so...?

>If you took an average nigger off the streets of Jo'burg
>and gave him 10 billion Rand, a large comfortable house,
>and several fancy cars, do you think he would 'share the
>wealth' with his less-fortunate compatriots?

yes... as a matter of fact the average black person adheres to a concept
known as ubuntu... most black communities share and help each other a lot...

but then I live in South Africa and I actually know what goes down here...
you are just guessing... and therefore you get it wrong...

>Hell, NO!  He'd start using and oppressing his brethren
>for his own selfish purposes.  And YOU would, too.

Robert Mugabe is _not_ the model of African life...

>That's human nature, son.

you'll be surprised how different people are in different cultures... not
everyone places the same value on accumulating vast fortunes at the expense
of everyone else...

hunter gatherer tribes certainly do not... the San of the Kalahari bushveld
want very simple things... like the ability to hunt again and live according
to their old way of life...

you're prolly a city boy like me... and our culture is one of greed and
separation... cities are places of loneliness...

cities are actually a cancer on the planet too... satellite photos of cities
resemble tumour growths... cities do not breed healthy human beings...

>But your biggest error is looking for answers through some
>communal endeavor.  That will NEVER work...because of the
>inherent characteristics of human nature (outlined above).

well city folk do not make great communists... that's why they'll prolly
have to die first... which is likely to come through communicable
diseases...

the problem is not with the concept of co-operation... it's the people not
being willing to adapt their fixed ideas...

adapt or die... since some will not adapt, they will die...

>In the idealized 'peoples republic' which you described,
>it would take only one Warburg, or Stalin, or Gill Bates
>-- just ONE megalomaniac -- to attain a little bit of
>power within your bureaucracy, and you'd eventually be
>faced with the same problems all over again.

funny how hunter gatherer tribes were completely sustainable within their
own rights... it took a bunch of European city boys with xtian ideals and
rifles to fuck it all up...

but in and of themselves, the Australian aborigines lived a completely
naturally sustainable life... take 9.9 out of 10 Australians living in a
city and dump them in the outback and they will all die within weeks...

>That's human nature, you silly little git.

no... it's European city culture... European civilisation has brought us to
the point where the planet groans with the pressure we place on its
resources...

this planet never needed over 6 billion people... we don't need economies of
scale to feed billions when a few million people are all we need...

none of us should work... we should all stroll the veld in tribes hunting
and gathering... we don't need technology, we don't need to build... we can
all live under the stars exactly like the animals do... and we will be
happier than we are now...

>The concept of 'redistribution of wealth' is a fallacious
>pipe-dream, intended to appeal to the 'have-nots'...who
>are generally so stupid and unsophisticated about eco-
>nomics that they can't see they're being flim-flammed.

all that you see will be destroyed... that is one true fact of the Bible,
even though I don't consider myself a believer...

every endeavour of man will be extinguished... everything we accumulate,
everything we achieve...

how do I know this? Because in this universe everything has a beginning and
everything has an end... so it is no longer important for human kind to
achieve anything, just like a lion does not have to achieve anything...

achievements are only important if they are lasting... this line of thinking
gives some credence to building spiritual riches...

>Fact is, if ALL THE 'WEALTH' IN THE WORLD was evenly
>'re-distributed' among all the =people= in the world, 
>EVERYBODY would be living in poverty.

I've heard this before... and perhaps, if it were possible, it would still
be the thing to do... the fact is, this world has real wealth to enable us
to live...

real wealth is oxygen, water, land, animals, plants, minerals etc... some we
need, some we only desire...

it is not important that our desires are met... only our needs...
fortunately sex is one our of needs... if we are to produce new
generations...

>And even THEN, there'd be some Gill Bates-style megalo-
>maniac who would figure out a way to separate people from
>whatever little bit of money they have.

money should not exist... it is only necessary in a culture where people
wish to accumulate artificial wealth...

>That's human nature, you idiot Honky.
>Get real.  Get a brain.  Get some insight.  Smash your
>modem, reboot, and kill yourself.  Or at least take
>your idiotic polemic to a different newsgroup.

no... I won't comply with any of your demands... now what yer gonna do...?

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On 02 Jan 2002 01:13:19 GMT, mik...@bluedwarf.spam.net (MJP) sucked
my dick and said:
>mel is just full of fecal matter.

as are you...

>all that drivel was just to rant and seem to have a foundation to stand on.
>he/she/it lives in south africa where abuse of the Africans (mel's term)
>is not only commonplace but encouraged.

you prove here you don't have a fucking idea about africa... let me know
when you plan to visit cape town and I will be happy to knock some sense
into you...

you need a good beating...

>mel is obviously of the upper class since mel has a computer and a domain name
>(supposedly) and on the African continent I think that its safe to say having 
>access to a computer not to mention owning one would be limited to those
>in the very position "mel" is taking the stance against: people with money.

you'll be surprised who has access in africa...

>I think the time has come to not post back to, or even read his fecal effluence.

trying to rally support...? you sound unconfident of your position...

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ano...@bogus_address.con 4 Jan 2002 04:46 · permalink
On 2002-01-04 me...@adderleystreet.co.za said:

   >no... I won't comply with any of your demands... now what yer
   >gonna do...?

Put you in the killfile.

<plonk>

On Fri, 04 Jan 2002 04:46:32 -0000, anonymous@bogus_address.con sucked my
dick and said:
>On 2002-01-04 me...@adderleystreet.co.za said:
>   >no... I won't comply with any of your demands... now what yer
>   >gonna do...?
>Put you in the killfile.
><plonk>

which is what you should have done already and saved yerself the pain...

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Well.. I don't want to get into this debate, but from what I read...

None of these are my opinions, these are based from your posts...

You are  "A WHITE MAN" Living in a "BLACK COUNTRY" and feel that
it is the WHITE that has messed up the lives of the BLACK MEN and
in short, MAN, YOU ARE THE WRONG COLOR IN THE WRONG COUNTRY DOING
THE WRONG THING.... Get out of there ......

"Mel" <me...@adderleystreet.co.za> wrote in message
news:hcb...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 04 Jan 2002 04:46:32 -0000, anonymous@bogus_address.con sucked my
> dick and said:
> >On 2002-01-04 me...@adderleystreet.co.za said:
> >   >no... I won't comply with any of your demands... now what yer
> >   >gonna do...?
> >Put you in the killfile.
> ><plonk>
>
> which is what you should have done already and saved yerself the pain...
>
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On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 09:01:23 +0400, "Poster" <Pos...@NoSpam.net> sucked my
dick and said:
>"Mel" <me...@adderleystreet.co.za> wrote in message
>> On Fri, 04 Jan 2002 04:46:32 -0000, anonymous@bogus_address.con sucked my
>> dick and said:
>> >On 2002-01-04 me...@adderleystreet.co.za said:
>> >   >no... I won't comply with any of your demands... now what yer
>> >   >gonna do...?
>> >Put you in the killfile.
>> ><plonk>
>> which is what you should have done already and saved yerself the pain...
>Well.. I don't want to get into this debate, but from what I read...
>None of these are my opinions, these are based from your posts...
>You are  "A WHITE MAN" Living in a "BLACK COUNTRY" and feel that
>it is the WHITE that has messed up the lives of the BLACK MEN and
>in short, MAN, YOU ARE THE WRONG COLOR IN THE WRONG COUNTRY DOING
>THE WRONG THING.... Get out of there ......

don't be pathetic... if that is the level of your understanding, it is a
waste of my time to try and explain things to you...

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"Peter \"lastfuture\" Marquardt" <lastfuture@lastfuture.de> ASCII art 5 Jan 2002 16:32 · permalink
On 1 Jan 2002 23:03:27 +0100, Cthulhu <noo...@nowhere.it> wrote:

>Taliszanna <tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> wrote:
>
>>        You are going on the principle, however, that the book was not a
>> joke to begin with.  It is the book that I take the least seriously out of
>> all.
>
>You are going on the principle, however, that you can buy the real
>Necronomicon at amazon.com. :)
>
>It is hard to take seriously a book that doesn't exist.
>
>	contraffattamente,
>	    Cthulhu

well it does. somebody i know had an old copy with a beautiful cover.
i think over 100 years old. i held it in my own hands.

it was of course not the original (i think nobody has an original
copy) but a version extended and refined by his ancestors


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"Peter \"lastfuture\" Marquardt" <lastfuture@lastfuture.de> ASCII art 5 Jan 2002 16:40 · permalink
On Tue, 01 Jan 2002 21:45:39 +0200, Mel
<me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> wrote:

>On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 15:01:44 +0100, "Peter \"lastfuture\" Marquardt"
><las...@lastfuture.de> sucked my dick and said:
>>On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:47:16 +0200, Mel
>><me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> wrote:
>>>we in Africa know you Europeans are racists... why do you think we don't
>>>give a fuck to join the US / UK crusade?
>>oh yeah.. i wonder who is the racist after that statement
>
>anyone who supports the US led "war on terrorism" supports US terror... you
>implicitly support more dead 12yo palestinian youths...

who said that i do?

>you implicitly value a jew life over an arab's...

no i don't value anybody over anybody else because it wouldn't be fair

>Israel is perpetrating a holocaust...
>
>The Israelis make me sick... even a South Africa Jew, Ronnie Kasrils, an ANC
>MP (Member of Parliament) has decided to speak out against Israeli
>terrorism... of course many South African Jews have immediately vilified
>him...

you know, terrorism is bad in general. no matter who is responsible
for it

>even today, for every Jew's blood split, two Arabs die... thanks to American
>aid and European complicity...

why do you generalize "the europeans" "the americans" and even "the
africans"

>Yeah... I hate you fucking Europeans and you fucking Americans... because
>you are so fucking uninformed and naive...
>
>If that makes me a racist, then I am proud to be against you...

yes it does and being proud of that you might consider therapy

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On Sat, 05 Jan 2002 17:40:38 +0100, "Peter \"lastfuture\" Marquardt"
<las...@lastfuture.de> sucked my dick and said:
>On Tue, 01 Jan 2002 21:45:39 +0200, Mel
><me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> wrote:
>>On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 15:01:44 +0100, "Peter \"lastfuture\" Marquardt"
>><las...@lastfuture.de> sucked my dick and said:
>>>On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:47:16 +0200, Mel
>>><me...@adderleystreet.NOSPAM.co.za> wrote:
>>>>we in Africa know you Europeans are racists... why do you think we don't
>>>>give a fuck to join the US / UK crusade?
>>>oh yeah.. i wonder who is the racist after that statement
>>anyone who supports the US led "war on terrorism" supports US terror... you
>>implicitly support more dead 12yo palestinian youths...
>who said that i do?
[ ... ]
>>Yeah... I hate you fucking Europeans and you fucking Americans... because
>>you are so fucking uninformed and naive...
>>If that makes me a racist, then I am proud to be against you...
>yes it does and being proud of that you might consider therapy

I consider this thread closed until further notice... I have simply lost
interest...

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    / \
>On 1 Jan 2002 23:03:27 +0100, Cthulhu <noo...@nowhere.it> wrote:
>
>>Taliszanna <tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>        You are going on the principle, however, that the book was not a
>>> joke to begin with.  It is the book that I take the least seriously out of
>>> all.
>>
>>You are going on the principle, however, that you can buy the real
>>Necronomicon at amazon.com. :)
>>
>>It is hard to take seriously a book that doesn't exist.
>>
>>	contraffattamente,
>>	    Cthulhu
>
>well it does. somebody i know had an old copy with a beautiful cover.
>i think over 100 years old. i held it in my own hands.
>
>it was of course not the original (i think nobody has an original
>copy) but a version extended and refined by his ancestors

The Necronomicon was invented by HP Lovecraft. And he didn't even
actually write it. He just mentioned it in his stories. The 'copies'
of it you see around are pure invention based on Lovecraft's Cthulhu
mythos. One of the 'copies' is just a few pages of mysterious looking
script repeated over and over.
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Mel writes
>[ snip rant/rave ]
>>>Yeah... I hate you fucking Europeans and you fucking Americans... because
>>>you are so fucking uninformed and naive...
>>>If that makes me a racist, then I am proud to be against you...
>>yes it does and being proud of that you might consider therapy
>
>I consider this thread closed until further notice... I have simply lost
>interest...
>
run out of drugs then eh? lamer!

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On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 12:46:52 +0000, CJRandall <col...@shieldwolf.demon.co.uk>
sucked my dick and said:
>Mel writes
>>[ snip rant/rave ]
>>>>Yeah... I hate you fucking Europeans and you fucking Americans... because
>>>>you are so fucking uninformed and naive...
>>>>If that makes me a racist, then I am proud to be against you...
>>>yes it does and being proud of that you might consider therapy
>>I consider this thread closed until further notice... I have simply lost
>>interest...
>run out of drugs then eh? lamer!

as if you haven't taken hard drugs yourself...

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