Re: Mr.Genius

On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Mel wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 13:11:11 -0600, Taliszanna
> <tal...@chem4823.usask.ca> sucked my dick and said:
> >	You are missing a lot of early European history then.  Europe has
> >had history for much longer than they've known Africa.
> 
> we all came from africa...

	That isn't proven.  That has only been theorized.

> >	The terrorism in the U.S.A. was an attack on THEM, not Europe and
> >it had nothing to do with S.Africa-- it was to do with Osama Bin Laden
> >wanting his name to go down in history because he's an egotistical
> >swine.
> 
> you have probably no idea how truly villainous the rulers of europe over the
> millennia were...

That reply seems like an attempt to dodge acknowledging that I have a
point.  The reply was on New York, not some European country.  The white
people of today cannot be blamed for the deeds of those that came before
they were even in existence.

> even the popes of the past have outshown his evil deeds... and i don't
> consider what obl did as evil... america continues to support israel's
> genocide against the palestinians and thus is a legitimate target...
> palestinian civilians die, it is proper that american citizens die too...

Okay, fine-- but how are you going to explain anthrax being sent to
Canada?

> i don't give a fuck what bush says... he is a fucking arsehole... bush (and
> most americans) don't give a fuck about the millions of arabs israel kills
> and oppresses... the israelis (who are all jews) 

They both kill each other-- like how in Belfast Ireland the Protestants
and the Catholics are always at each others' necks.  Nobody is innocent or
any better than the other side.

> > I know that people in Afghanistan are very poor and life is hard,
> >but tough shyte if they are bad at business.
> 
> oh fuck you... 

Hey, I didn't say that to indicate that I have no sympathy for people
dying in the street.  I know tonnes of people who have absolutely
nothing aside from the clothing on their backs and their citizenship
here.  I'm just saying that what it looks like to all of North America
is Afghanistan being pissed off because things in trade and economy
have not gone their way so they are throwing the biggest damned tantrum 
possible.  THAT is what it looks like to us.  Do you honestly expect every
country to share, share, share every bloody thing that they have with the
rest of the world?  Do you expect things to be nicey-nice in the politics
of business?  Of course they won't be!  The object of the trade world is
to do as well as you can for your company and for your country.  To the
winners go the spoils.  Those who don't kick ass every day on the economic
scene can't very well demand that we give them what we've just earned.  
The world might as well be under Communist ruling if we did that.  It is
unrealistic to have such expectations.  It is a dog-eat-dog world and no
one was ever promised less-- no matter *where* they were born.

> at 21, I cannot expect you to have a sophisticated appreciation of
> reality...

Taken a look in the mirror recently?  Some of the things that you've said
are heavily clouded by your jaded attitude and it is apparent that you
tend to paint entire groups with a single brush frequently purely for the
sake of lashing out.

> the only reason the arabs of the middle east are not poverty stricken
> wanderers of the desert was that they lucked out on oil reserves...
> 
> that has fuck all to do with being good or bad at business... 

Yes, it fucking well does.  They are generally not good at the social end
of business (yay, let us go blow up our neighbours and scare the entire 
planet away from us!).  Besides oil, they've been found in the past to 
have little to offer that the rest of the world has a great demand for.  
The rest of the world cannot be blamed for not taking interest in them.  
The world is to blame for their problems regarding the numbers of starving
people they have due to the government generally not giving a shit about
their citizens and managing foreign relations poorly.  Don't you think
that those who run the Middle Eastern countries live a very high life
while those that voted them into office are dying in the alleyway?  I know
that it is certainly that way for the Arabs...

> johannesburg is only wealthier than cape town because they have huge
> gold reserves...

And so to them go whatever spoils that that brings.

> the mongolian people lived in abject poverty in a barren geographic
> region... they grew tired of their poverty and Genghis Khan built the
> Mongolian Empire which conquered China, Persia, Russia and Eastern Europe...

He didn't sit around blaming the world because they were successful,
however-- he just accepted that they were so-- and he also didn't turn it
into a holy war in order to disguise personal motivations.

> what I'm saying is that most people just get rich by virtue of where they
> stay, but others who stay in poorer regions get fed up and take by force the
> luxury that others enjoy...

I know that and it's called pillaging.  It still doesn't make it right.
You can't possibly tell me that it does when you were so against White
people doing it. 

Also, don't try telling me that you don't think that Ghengis Khan didn't
do that for himself.  He lived a very, very wealthy lifestyle afterwards-- 
much more so than his subjects.  

> it has always happened, and the same will happen in the west... despite all
> your confidence in your military prowess, the west will be defeated 

Just because you want it to be so, it doesn't mean that it will be.  The
U.S.A. *is* very equipped and both Canada and the U.S.A. are trained
well.  I think that you'd just like to continue to fantasize that America
is a monster because you are bitter and jaded in general.

> and molten silver will be poured in your eyes and down your throats... 

Are you almost done?

> >No one ever promised them a rose garden.
> 
> we want it nonetheless and we will have it...

That is a very childish way of looking at the world.

> neither is war... hording of wealth is a declaration of war against those in
> poverty... 

Don't be ridiculous.  It is the government of one country taking care of
its own-- doing its assigned job as best as it can.  The government of
America is not responsible for the rest of the world.  The governments of
other countries are supposed to pay attention to what is in demand or are
supposed to create something that will be in demand. To believe that
everyone is supposed to share is to advocate global communism-- which
could never work.  Communism doesn't even work on one country let alone
stand the chance of working for an entire planet.

> when someone is holding a razor edged dagger to the soft spot in your throat
> and you know that within the next 5 seconds it is going to be plunged into
> your throat till it protrudes out the back of your neck, and that you will
> writhe and wriggle in pain as you choke to death on your own blood, how
> willing would you be to hand over your entire fortune for just another hour
> of life...?

You really believe that that is going to happen, don't you?  **scoff**  I
suppose that you advocate slavery too so long as it is white people.

I'm tired of this conversation.

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