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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 30 Jan 1999.
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Comic: Save the Frogs

Comic: Save the Frogs

alt.ascii-art · 36 messages · 30 Jan 1999 - 6 Mar 1999
Der BluT <ste...@mindspring.com> ASCII art 30 Jan 1999 00:00 · permalink · report

Pete Casso wrote:
|                                   I knew, I             /.........
|                             _   shouldn't have         /..........
|                            (_\ eaten his legs...      /...........
|               _             \ \    /        !        /............
|              ) \_____________\ \_.---o-,    OO      /.............
|              )_)________()_____)_ \ <  =   (-()    /..............
|                          __      `---o-'          /...............
|                         <__>                     /................
| ________________________________________________/db...............
|
|Wow, there is another 'stein emulator, I award 2.5 Frogsteins!
|
|   .oo    .oo    .o
|  (  -)  (  -)  ( |
|   " "    " "    "
|
|I would be happy to see an acknowledgement next time!

what the hell ae you talking about? You mean like I stole your goddam
frog? Or even the whole comic? Sorry, that my frog looks like yours. I
drew that kind of frog on my C64 looooong time before knew about you and
yer stupid frogs.

C'mon, don't be ridiculous!

DerBluT

JRO wrote in message <36b41dc6.0@206.103.97.91>...
>
>I think it are a fine asskey cartoon, an' I are hopin' Nils will make
>plenty more of them.  As to the question of frogs, yes, they has been
>dun afore now, afore afore, an' probable many times afore that. It do
>not ree-quire no 'nowledgement to anybody to put 2 o's an' 2 ('s together.
>Nils are entitled in his own rite, unless he needs give gratitude to first
>man to use typewriter to do them.
>
>I hopes he will make plenty more, an' that we shall soon be dazzled
>by display of wit. I doan care if they has frogs in 'em, or not.
>
>JRO
>



    To which I add, I am plumb embarassed by thanks to me, fer Nils
haff done this here cartoon of his on his own.  If'n he feels I have
inspired him, then I are in total aplomb, an' I like to haff an apoplexy.
Hats off to Nils, not me.

    Good luck Nils, and welcome to the wunerfull world of asskie cartoonin',
which shall make you famous an' sought after by many (if you're funny), an'
jealously dee-spised by others. Make plenty more.

JRO

I think it are a fine asskey cartoon, an' I are hopin' Nils will make
plenty more of them.  As to the question of frogs, yes, they has been
dun afore now, afore afore, an' probable many times afore that. It do
not ree-quire no 'nowledgement to anybody to put 2 o's an' 2 ('s together.
Nils are entitled in his own rite, unless he needs give gratitude to first
man to use typewriter to do them.

I hopes he will make plenty more, an' that we shall soon be dazzled
by display of wit. I doan care if they has frogs in 'em, or not.

JRO

Der BluT <ste...@mindspring.com> ASCII art 30 Jan 1999 00:00 · permalink · report
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<< Great! He's getting closer to the Touchdown line! Will he make it? >>



Thanks to JRO - Thanks to JRO - Thanks to JRO - Thanks to JRO - Thanks !

Thanks to JRO - Thanks to JRO - Thanks to JRO - Thanks to JRO - Thanks !



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<< Looks like he's going to make it!!! Yeaaaaaaah! >>


Thanks to JRO - Thanks to JRO - Thanks to JRO - Thanks to JRO - Thanks!
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Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> ASCII art 30 Jan 1999 00:00 · permalink · report
>                                   I knew, I             /.........
>                             _   shouldn't have         /..........
>                            (_\ eaten his legs...      /...........
>               _             \ \    /        !        /............
>              ) \_____________\ \_.---o-,    OO      /.............
>              )_)________()_____)_ \ <  =   (-()    /..............
>                          __      `---o-'          /...............
>                         <__>                     /................
> ________________________________________________/db/petecasso.....

Wow, there is another 'stein emulator, I award 2.5 Frogsteins!

   .oo    .oo    .o
  (  -)  (  -)  ( |
   " "    " "    "

I would be happy to see an acknowledgement next time!

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[]   /(      )\     Visit the Gallery of the 'steins!         []
[]  ( ">    <" )   http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/        []
[]   (> )><( <)   Woodpeckersteins dancing the boogie-woogie  []
[]     ^^  ^^                                                 []
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Der BluT wrote:
> what the hell ae you talking about? You mean like I stole your goddam
> frog? Or even the whole comic? Sorry, that my frog looks like yours. I
> drew that kind of frog on my C64 looooong time before knew about you and
> yer stupid frogs.
> 
> C'mon, don't be ridiculous!
> 
> DerBluT

Well, ignoring the emotional tone for the moment, I am referring to your
frog that looks like mine, not to the whole comic. I have first
published Frogstein in a publicly verifyable way in January 1997, you
can verify that yourself in the dejanews archives.

Can you point me to accessible archives to prove that you drew that kind
of frog before me?

In spite of a call for evidence that I organized last year, there is no
earlier Frogstein, there was literally zero evidence brought forward,
and of particular importance, there was no independently verifyable
claim of an earlier Frogstein. (There was even an assertion from Colin D
who is particularly knowledgeable on the history of ascii art, that he
has never seen any of the 'steins before.)  But treat the above question
as a pure inquiry for the moment, I am sincerely interested.

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[]   /(      )\     Visit the Gallery of the 'steins!         []
[]  ( ">    <" )   http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/        []
[]   (> )><( <)   Woodpeckersteins dancing the boogie-woogie  []
[]     ^^  ^^                                                 []
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Der BluT <ste...@mindspring.com> ASCII art 31 Jan 1999 00:00 · permalink · report
Dear Pete Casso,

Well, if you still have one of 'em old Commodores C64, I could send you one of
my 5 1/4 discs with the frogs on it. I think that was in 1994. Not sure, might
have been 95...

Oh well, whatever, I just thought it was pretty stoopid to start complaining
because of some ('s and and dots. If it was like big pichure someone stole,
where you could really tell that it was stolen, that would be something else.
But it seems pretty senseless to waste my and your time posting flames about
some little frog pic.

Now, let's say I have never seen any of your frogs before. And for a comic
with a frog in it, I need a small frog, say about 3 rows high. First I draw a
pair of eyes for the frog. something like that: OO That would make the frog be
very small.
So I try something bigger: ( )( )
Ok, closer. Let's make it: (.)(.)
Cool. And now we need the rest of the face:

  1.            2.            3.            4.
 _  _          _  _          _  _          _  _
(.)(.)        (.)(.)        (.)(.)        (.)(.)
 \_ /          |_ |         /    \        ( _  )
  \/            \/          \ o  /         \  /
looks too     looks like    too fat.      there we
thin.         shit.                       go.

There aren't too many ways to draw a frog in that size that looks good. I'm
sure there are lots of different ways to do it, but on the other hand: If you
made everybody in aaa draw a frog in that size, I'm sure about 90% of the
people would come up with something between very close and identical with what
you and I came up with. So I didn't neccessarily copy it from yours. Actually
I have never seen any of your frogs, which would make it pretty hard to copy
one of 'em? Don't you think so? And, maybe someone else came up with thesame
frogs you did? I don't wanna say you stole them, just ask yourself: Couldn't
it be possible that someone else had the same idea loooong time ago?

So, what you wanna say is, that everybody who uses ANY kind of stuph that
someone else MIGHT have already come up with has to ask EVERYBODY if ANYBODY
has EVER drawn something like that before? Cool idea. Would take forever to
post something, because I'm pretty sure that within the last 20 years someone
else has already published something like you just want to.

I'm not sure, cause I never read your FAQs, but did you give credit to all the
people who's ideas, figlet fonts, words and stuff you used? I'm pretty sure I
could find someone who wrote something that is pretty close to what you wrote.

Anyway, let me draw my stuph and i let you draw yours. OK?

Sincerely,

         DerBluT

P.S.: I think your name is some kind of modification of Picasso. Therefor I am
not sure if it is appropriate fot YOU or anybody else to MISuse the name of
one of the greatest artist ever. Think about it.

> Dear Pete Casso,

That's a nice change of tone from the past posting, thanks, and I should
therefore reciprocate and say:

Dear DerBlut,

>   1.            2.            3.            4.
>  _  _          _  _          _  _          _  _
> (.)(.)        (.)(.)        (.)(.)        (.)(.)
>  \_ /          |_ |         /    \        ( _  )
>   \/            \/          \ o  /         \  /
> looks too     looks like    too fat.      there we
> thin.         shit.                       go.

You own the above pics 100% if you say so, that's not what I was talking
about. I was talking about Frogstein, you drew a similar pic according
to your own words in your previous posting, and I need to insist on an
acknowledgement if you use any 'stein pics. For examples of 'stein pics,
see my web site, the URL is in my sig below, or search the dejanews archives.

It is really up to the original copyright holder to assert his/her
copyrights in case of a reinvention (it does not have to be plagiarism,)
I am doing just that. Other copyright holders are at liberty to do the
same, including those from the past.

You may want to read the Copyright FAQ which is *not* my FAQ, but the
FAQ of the US Copyright Office. It may prevent you from listening to bad advice.

P.S. The name Pete Casso is by far from unique. I receive email
inquiries from members of the Casso family every now and then, e.g.
asking whether I am related to a certain John Casso (or whatever first
name it is,) now living in a certain city of the US, but originally from
a certain city in Italy, and the like. I have no idea how big the Casso
family is, but there may well be thousands or tenthousands or
hundredthousands of Pete Casso's running around on this globe  :-)

P.S. P.S. I just saw your latest TardVille comic, bravo!

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[]   /(      )\     Visit the Gallery of the 'steins!         []
[]  ( ">    <" )   http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/        []
[]   (> )><( <)   Woodpeckersteins dancing the boogie-woogie  []
[]     ^^  ^^                                                 []
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Pete Casso wrote in message <36B...@sympatico.ca>...
>>                                   I knew, I             /.........
>>                             _   shouldn't have         /..........
>>                            (_\ eaten his legs...      /...........
>>               _             \ \    /        !        /............
>>              ) \_____________\ \_.---o-,    OO      /.............
>>              )_)________()_____)_ \ <  =   (-()    /..............
>>                          __      `---o-'          /...............
>>                         <__>                     /................
>> ________________________________________________/db/petecasso.....
>
>Wow, there is another 'stein emulator, I award 2.5 Frogsteins!
>
>   .oo    .oo    .o
>  (  -)  (  -)  ( |
>   " "    " "    "
>
>I would be happy to see an acknowledgement next time!
>
>================================================================
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>[]   /(      )\     Visit the Gallery of the 'steins!         []
>[]  ( ">    <" )   http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/        []
>[]   (> )><( <)   Woodpeckersteins dancing the boogie-woogie  []
>[]     ^^  ^^                                                 []
>================================================================

Being a lay reader of alt.a-a, I hate to interrupt, but I think this
copyright thing is getting a *tad* petty. As you know, there is a limited
amount of characters available, and often, when a picture need to be small,
there is only one way to make it look like what it is meant to. Therefore -
some frogs may look similar.

Personally, I love the 'steins, and they are VERY distinctive - the way they
are used and the expressions put on their faces. The frog, on the pitch
above...

     OO                    oo.
    (-()     **Vs.**      (-  )
 (c) DerBlut               " " (c) Pete Casso

...is VAGUELY similar to Pete's Frogstein - but hardly. Both are small, and
so will have to include similar characters to look plausible as frogs.

Take a Close look. How similar are they really? Personally I think they are
completely different.


Sara Wallen wrote:

> Pete Casso wrote in message <36B...@sympatico.ca>...
> >>                                   I knew, I             /.........
> >>                             _   shouldn't have         /..........
> >>                            (_\ eaten his legs...      /...........
> >>               _             \ \    /        !        /............
> >>              ) \_____________\ \_.---o-,    OO      /.............
> >>              )_)________()_____)_ \ <  =   (-()    /..............
> >>                          __      `---o-'          /...............
> >>                         <__>                     /................
> >> ________________________________________________/db/petecasso.....
> >
> >Wow, there is another 'stein emulator, I award 2.5 Frogsteins!
> >
> >   .oo    .oo    .o
> >  (  -)  (  -)  ( |
> >   " "    " "    "
> >
> >I would be happy to see an acknowledgement next time!
> >
> >================================================================
> >[]                                                            []
> >[]   /(      )\     Visit the Gallery of the 'steins!         []
> >[]  ( ">    <" )   http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/        []
> >[]   (> )><( <)   Woodpeckersteins dancing the boogie-woogie  []
> >[]     ^^  ^^                                                 []
> >================================================================
>
> Being a lay reader of alt.a-a, I hate to interrupt, but I think this
> copyright thing is getting a *tad* petty. As you know, there is a limited
> amount of characters available, and often, when a picture need to be small,
> there is only one way to make it look like what it is meant to. Therefore -
> some frogs may look similar.
>
> Personally, I love the 'steins, and they are VERY distinctive - the way they
> are used and the expressions put on their faces. The frog, on the pitch
> above...
>
>      OO                    oo.
>     (-()     **Vs.**      (-  )
>  (c) DerBlut               " " (c) Pete Casso
>
> ...is VAGUELY similar to Pete's Frogstein - but hardly. Both are small, and
> so will have to include similar characters to look plausible as frogs.
>
> Take a Close look. How similar are they really? Personally I think they are
> completely different.

Besides which, if I recall correctly, Mr. Pete Casso Himself made the point a
few months ago that the identifying points on the Frogstein are the dot behind
the eyes and the quotes for feet. As DerBlut's frog has neither of these, I
think it is fair to say that DerBlut's creation is in no way an infringement of
Mr. Pete Casso's copyright on the 'steins.

Ender

Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> ASCII art 1 Feb 1999 00:00 · permalink · report
> Personally, I love the 'steins, and they are VERY distinctive - the way they
> are used and the expressions put on their faces.

Thanks for the nice words, Sara. But you (and Ender) may not have seen
all of the 'stein characters, see below. I use a full bodied Frogstein
if I need body language in my cartoons, if I need facial expressions
only, I put his head on tiny legs.

                    Help, I am decapitated!
                   /
       OO        OO
      (- )      (-()  Still copyright Pete Casso
     <(:<)
       ^^
     Full bodied Frogstein by Pete Casso

The thing is, that exactly because the 'steins are constructed with just
a few keystrokes, one can copy or make variations to them with just a
few keystrokes too, but other artists should make their own distinctive
pics  :-)

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[]   /(      )\     Visit the Gallery of the 'steins!         []
[]  ( ">    <" )   http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/        []
[]   (> )><( <)   Woodpeckersteins dancing the boogie-woogie  []
[]     ^^  ^^                                                 []
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No. Actually this forg is supposed to be in a wheel chair.
C'mon your    \\     Copyrite stuff is getting boring...
               \\
       OO        OO
      (- )      (-()  Still NOT copyright Pete Casso
     <(:<)
       ^^

DerBluT

How'd you come up with that name anyway? A german artist (Uli Stein) has got the
international copyright for then name. Just looked it up. Following names are
registered trademarks:

- The Steins
- Frosch Steins
- Frog Steins
and some other animal Steins...

Makes sense?

Copy right ya later,

DerBluT

      Pow?   Zonk?   Splat?


JRO

Der BluT wrote:
> How'd you come up with that name anyway? A german artist (Uli Stein) has got the
> international copyright for then name. Just looked it up. Following names are
> registered trademarks:

<sigh> Nothing jives here. There is no such thing like an international
copyright, each administration has its own copyright office. Uli Stein's
web page contains all graphics, not ascii. 

> Just looked it up. Following names are
> registered trademarks:

- The Steins
- Frosch Steins
- Frog Steins
and some other animal Steins...

I did not even look things up, since the above names are different from
the names that I use: The 'steins, Frogstein, etc.

<big sigh> I don't know how old you are, chances are that your parents
are still accountable for your actions. Anyway, I am filing your
postings for future reference. It would be a lot better for all of us if
you draw your own distinctive pictures, you are more than able to do so.
This is good advice, even if you don't think so.

P.S. Perhaps Colin D was right about disagreeing to kids on aaa ...

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[]   /(      )\     Visit the Gallery of the 'steins!         []
[]  ( ">    <" )   http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/        []
[]   (> )><( <)   Woodpeckersteins dancing the boogie-woogie  []
[]     ^^  ^^                                                 []
================================================================

I am Cornholio! Are you threat'ning me?

DerBluT

No, for real. Don't you see, that nobody really cares what the hell we're talking
about? I DON'T care if you think you have a copyright on two O's. So just quit trying
to get credit for everything, won't work.

The only thing this whole threat will gain is that more and mor people stop reading
aaa. I don't really care what you do, but I'm not gonna keep wasting my time for some
"artist" with an excessive ego.

Hope NOT to hear from you,

Der BluT

Maybe I was a little too fast for you. Ok, again and reaaaally slow, so everybody can
understand it:

If you really based that whole thing on this

 OO
(-()

frog, then you start thinking. It is NOT _your_ frog. It is a frog in a wheelchair. So
the ONLY part of the real frog you can are two O's. You think you have the copyright
for that?

OO      -> frog's eyes.

(-()    -> wheelchair.

|  |
|  left wheel.
|
right wheel.

Makes sense? I've never seen a frogstein in a wheelchair before. Did you?

Der BluT

Hmmmm...... I've never even seen a frog in a wheelchair.  They
usually just hang out around the pond, although there are tree
frogs who like to get on my windows if I leave the poorch light
on at night.

JRO

Spunk1111 <spu...@aol.com> ASCII art 2 Feb 1999 00:00 · permalink · report
>Message-id: <36B...@mindspring.com>

>How'd you come up with that name anyway? A german artist (Uli Stein) has got
>the
>international copyright for then name. Just looked it up. Following names are
>registered trademarks:
>
>- The Steins
>- Frosch Steins
>- Frog Steins
>and some other animal Steins...
>
>Makes sense?
>
>Copy right ya later,
>
>DerBluT


interesting...
according to this website, he has been making
his stein cartoons since 1972...
http://www.ulistein.de/INFOS/infos_gb.html

-joan
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In article <36b812fb.0@206.103.97.91>, "JRO"
<ogl...@mail.fullnet.net-remove> wrote:
> 
> Hmmmm...... I've never even seen a frog in a wheelchair.  They
> usually just hang out around the pond, although there are tree
> frogs who like to get on my windows if I leave the poorch light
> on at night.
> 
> JRO

You probably haven't seen a frog in a wheelchair...

            /
         _ '\oo 
          L(_c      ...because there are no wheel chair
 ejm     (*).L``         ramps installed by the pond!



NOTE: I do not pick up my mail from the idirect address that you
see. If you are e-mailing me and hit the reply button, add an "e"
to "freent"; its absense is to stop the torment of automatic mailers.
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llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> schrieb:
> You probably haven't seen a frog in a wheelchair...
>             /
>          _ '\oo 
>           L(_c      ...because there are no wheel chair
>  ejm     (*).L``         ramps installed by the pond!

ROTFLCTC

	Faroul
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        Nichts ist so einfach, da� man es nicht falsch machen k�nnte.

Probably...

=)

Der BluT wrote:
> I am Cornholio! Are you threat'ning me?

That was Frogstein's head with an additional keystroke. Stop using
'stein pics, and I mean no harm to you or anyone else for that matter.
There is really no honor in wallowing in the grey areas of plagiarism as
others are doing. Develop your own distinctive style as you wrote, that
is a lot more satisfying, you have the ability, I am positive. Well, I
am done for now.

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[]                                                            []
[]   /(      )\     Visit the Gallery of the 'steins!         []
[]  ( ">    <" )   http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/        []
[]   (> )><( <)   Woodpeckersteins dancing the boogie-woogie  []
[]     ^^  ^^                                                 []
================================================================

Ok, let me tell you again:
 OO
(-()
This is NOT the head of a frog. This is a frog in a wheelchair. OK? Good.
The only part of the frog are the eyes. --> OO
The rest are the wheels ------------------>(-()
The only thing our two frogs have in common are the two O's as eyes.
So, how do you want to make a frog in a wheelchair in that size other than
that?

I know it looks similar to your frog'stein...'frogstein? whatever. It is
something else though.

Just imagine: I drew a pic like that:  ..o  It's a worm. I hereby call it
wormlet.
Later someone else draws this:         ,,o  pretty similar, just that the
dots are replaced by commas. Now imagine the  ,,o  is supposed to be a dog.
Do I still have the copyright? Don't think so.

Please stop wasting everybody's time.

DerBluT

Donovan <don...@misslink.net> ASCII art 3 Feb 1999 00:00 · permalink · report
=
 ___  ____  _____  ____ /\
/ __)(_  _)(  _  )(  _ \)(
\__ \  )(   )(_)(  )___/\/
(___/ (__) (_____)(__)  ()
 _    _  _   _  ____  _  _  ____  _  _  ___ /\/\/\
( \/\/ )( )_( )(_  _)( \( )(_  _)( \( )/ __))()()(
 )    (  ) _ (  _)(_  )  (  _)(_  )  (( (_-.\/\/\/
(__/\__)(_) (_)(____)(_)\_)(____)(_)\_)\___/()()()

IT is getting old.

I come back home to the fun stomping grounds and that is all I see in the
newsgroup. Hmmmm, maybe I didn't take a long enough vacation from Ascii-Art
after all. Grrrrr...

I mean for crying out loud it is only 6 characters on 2 lines...One of you
should get more original and the other should just get a new comic idea and
become more original.

OK, I'm sorry I got bent out of shape, but man, this shtuff has gone on long
enough children.

Peace to the WORLD,
Donovan

P  O  E  M  S     B  Y     D  O  N  O  V  A  N
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Peace,
Donovan

P  O  E  M  S     B  Y     D  O  N  O  V  A  N
ASCII Art, Secret Link Game, and DA QUIZ!
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/LeftBank/6558/
======
EVANS PLUNGE BEANIE BABIES PRICE LIST
http://www.misslink.net/donovan/bb1.html
New & Retired Beanies available. Prices at $6.95!

I know....

Sorry 'bout it,

DerBluT

Daniel Beer <dlb...@geocities.com> ASCII art 3 Feb 1999 00:00 · permalink · report
On Mon, 01 Feb 1999 20:36:48 -0500, Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>> Personally, I love the 'steins, and they are VERY distinctive - the way they
>> are used and the expressions put on their faces.
>
>Thanks for the nice words, Sara. But you (and Ender) may not have seen
>all of the 'stein characters, see below. I use a full bodied Frogstein
>if I need body language in my cartoons, if I need facial expressions
>only, I put his head on tiny legs.
>
>                    Help, I am decapitated!
>                   /
>       OO        OO
>      (- )      (-()  Still copyright Pete Casso
>     <(:<)
>       ^^
>     Full bodied Frogstein by Pete Casso
>
>The thing is, that exactly because the 'steins are constructed with just
>a few keystrokes, one can copy or make variations to them with just a
>few keystrokes too, but other artists should make their own distinctive
>pics  :-)

Why do you feel the need to annoy people and try to discredit them with your
copyright lectures?  Do you think it makes you look good?  You are the only one
who sees similarities between the two frogs above.


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Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> ASCII art 13 Feb 1999 00:00 · permalink · report
Donovan <don...@misslink.net> wrote:
>=
> ___  ____  _____  ____ /\
>/ __)(_  _)(  _  )(  _ \)(
>\__ \  )(   )(_)(  )___/\/
>(___/ (__) (_____)(__)  ()
> _    _  _   _  ____  _  _  ____  _  _  ___ /\/\/\
>( \/\/ )( )_( )(_  _)( \( )(_  _)( \( )/ __))()()(
> )    (  ) _ (  _)(_  )  (  _)(_  )  (( (_-.\/\/\/
>(__/\__)(_) (_)(____)(_)\_)(____)(_)\_)\___/()()()

>IT is getting old.

>I come back home to the fun stomping grounds and that is all I see in the
>newsgroup. Hmmmm, maybe I didn't take a long enough vacation from Ascii-Art
>after all. Grrrrr...

>I mean for crying out loud it is only 6 characters on 2 lines...One of you
>should get more original and the other should just get a new comic idea and
>become more original.

>OK, I'm sorry I got bent out of shape, but man, this shtuff has gone on long
>enough children.

>Peace to the WORLD,
>Donovan

>P  O  E  M  S     B  Y     D  O  N  O  V  A  N


You have inspired to write the following:



                     National Anthem of the Frogs
                     =============================

                     God save our gracious Frogs
                     Long live our noble Frogs
                     Long live the Frogs
                     Send them victorious
                     Happy and glorious
                     Long to croak over us
                     God save the Frogs.

     ______
    (__  __)
      |  |
      |  |________........--------........________                  __
      |  |\\                                      ~~~~~~~~------~~~~  ||
      |  | \\                             o                           ||
      |  |  ||                         o^/|\^o                        ||
      |  |  ||                     o\*`'.\|/.'`*/o                    ||
      |  |  ||                      \\\\\\|//////                     ||
      |  |  ||                       {><><@><><}                      ||
      |  |  ||                       ).--._.--.(                      ||
      |  |  ||                       ( O     O )                      ||
      |  |  ||:::::::::::::::::      /   . .   \       :::::::::::::::||
      |  |  ||:::::::::::::::::     .`._______.'.      :::::::::::::::||
      |  |  ||:::::::::::::::::    /(    \_/    )\     :::::::::::::::||
      |  |  ||:::::::::::::::::: _/  \  \   /  /  \_ :::::::::::::::::||
      |  |  ||::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::||
      |  |  ||::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::||
      |  |  ||::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::||
      |  |  ||::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::||
      |  |//::::::''''''''~~~~~~~~''''''''::::::::::::::::::::::::::''~~
      |  |                                         ~~~~~~~~~~
      |  | -cfbd99-           THE ROYAL FROG STANDARD


Toodles,

>
>                      National Anthem of the Frogs
>                      =============================
>
>                      God save our gracious Frogs
>                      Long live our noble Frogs
>                      Long live the Frogs
>                      Send them victorious
>                      Happy and glorious
>                      Long to croak over us
>                      God save the Frogs.

Hell Yeah!

DerBluT

Spunk1111 <spu...@aol.com> ASCII art 2 Mar 1999 00:00 · permalink · report
>Message-id: <36B...@mindspring.com>

> if you still have one of 'em old Commodores C64

Our 'first' home computer was a
Commodore 128...sigh....  that seemed ages ago.


-joan
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>Our 'first' home computer was a
>Commodore 128...sigh....  that seemed ages ago.



Oooh I remember way back when.. my first computer was an Acorn Electron!
I think EVERYONES first BASIC program is one that scrolls the word "hello"
across the screen, something which I have recreated here:

HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO
HELLO HELLO HELL
O HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO
HELLO HELLO HE ELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO
HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO
 HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO
HELLO HELLO HEL
LO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO
HELLO HELLO H
ELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO
HELLO HELLO
 HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO
HELLO HELLO HEL

I think you get the picture.. :O)

Andrew.

--
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Andrew Carpenter <and...@cirencester.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:36d...@news.star.co.uk...
>>Our 'first' home computer was a
>>Commodore 128...sigh....  that seemed ages ago.
>
>
>
>Oooh I remember way back when.. my first computer was an Acorn Electron!
>I think EVERYONES first BASIC program is one that scrolls the word "hello"
>across the screen, something which I have recreated here:


AHHH NOOO!!

I fear the dreaded line wrap has struck again!


Andrew.

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Martin DiViaio <mar...@erols.com> ASCII art 3 Mar 1999 00:00 · permalink · report
Spunk1111 wrote:
> 
> >Message-id: <36B...@mindspring.com>
> 
> > if you still have one of 'em old Commodores C64
> 
> Our 'first' home computer was a
> Commodore 128...sigh....  that seemed ages ago.
> 

:) I still have mine. Now, if I can only get Linux to load on it... :)

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Ojosh!ro <ojo...@lunatech.com> ASCII art 3 Mar 1999 00:00 · permalink · report
Andrew Carpenter wrote:
> 
> >Our 'first' home computer was a
> >Commodore 128...sigh....  that seemed ages ago.
> 
> Oooh I remember way back when.. my first computer was an Acorn Electron!
> I think EVERYONES first BASIC program is one that scrolls the word "hello"
> across the screen, something which I have recreated here:
> 
> HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO
> HELLO HELLO HELL
> O HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO
> HELLO HELLO HE ELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO
> HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO
>  HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO
> HELLO HELLO HEL
> LO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO
> HELLO HELLO H
> ELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO
> HELLO HELLO
>  HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO HELLO
> HELLO HELLO HEL
> 
> I think you get the picture.. :O)
> 
> Andrew.
> 
> --
> My sig file is on its lunch break

Ehm, well, My first 'computer' was a Texas Instruments TI99-4/A.
Fantastic machine with a tea-warmer built in... =)
Remember the time when 16 kB cost you a fortune? These days 512
K's are onboard in the proc...enfin.
Hmmm, hate to disappoint you there, my first program was something 
that looked a little like an ASCII-pacman... Though the 'ghosts' (
represented by the 'A' character) did not move and were pretty safe to bump
into...
It still must be somewhere on a 10000 years old casette tape in the darkest pits 
of oblivion.

Something like this...

+-------<Score 00100 - @@@>-------+
|* . . .|. . . . . .A. . .|. . . *|
|.+----.|.+------ ------+.|.----+.|
|.|. . . .|. . . . . . .|. . . .|.|
|. .----+. .+---------+. .+----. .|
...wait...

That's not true...
The first thing I made was some Ski-slalom program! You had to move you ('#')
between the flags ('P') to score points...
It went on forever...(And I got bored pretty quick, though my little brother
seemed 
to like it much better) It probably als went to that huge casette in the sky...

Ojosh!ro
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In article <36D...@erols.com>, Martin DiViaio
<mar...@erols.com> writes
>Spunk1111 wrote:
>> 
>> >Message-id: <36B...@mindspring.com>
>> 
>> > if you still have one of 'em old Commodores C64
>> 
>> Our 'first' home computer was a
>> Commodore 128...sigh....  that seemed ages ago.
>> 
>
>:) I still have mine. Now, if I can only get Linux to load on it... :)
>
          __________________________
    _,.-'|_||_||_||_||_|  _,.-''    '|
 .-'|_||_||_||_||_||_| .-'          ,'
|                     |        _,.-'MdM99
'----------------------'------'  

We still have a C64 as well - I got my parents to buy me the C64
programmer's reference book so that I could do some real sound and
graphics programming, but it died at about the same time. 
 
My first computer, though, was a ZX81 (which sadly passed away about the
time my brother accidentally kicked it... )
                             ______
                            | 16K  |
                ____________|______|_
            _.-'+.-'+.-'+.-'      _.-|
        _.-'__  __  __        _.-'   | 
    _.-'   +.-'+.-'+.-'   _.-'   _,.-'
 .-'___________________.-'  _,.-'
|_____________________|_,.-'MdM99

(if someone could tidy up those keys, it might look more recogniseable)

I have an Amstrad 286 that I wouldn't mind putting Linux on - it's such
a shame it was developed on 386's, but I guess it had to start
somewhere...

           ____________________ _
          |  ________________  | '.
          | |                | |  |
          | |                | |  |'.
          | |                | |  | |
          | |                | |  |.'
          | |________________| |  |
          |____________________|.'--,.-.
        _-_________|____|_______,.-'    |
    _.-'                    .-'      .-'|
 .-'_____________________.-'     ,.-'   |
|PC2286        _______  |    ,.-'     .'
|_______________________|,.-'      .-'MdM99
 '-.,____________________'-.,__,.-'

(It really does look like kind of a weird space ship, but not quite like
this :)

I really like the Psion Palmtop computers now, though. I can still
remember being amazed that my first Psion (Model II, LZ64) had the same
amount of RAM as my Commodore 64 and yet was soooo small.
 _____________
| ___________ |M
||           ||d
||           ||M
||___________||9
| ___________ |9
 |           |
 |# # # # # #|
 |A B C D E F|
 |G H I J K L|
 |M N O P Q R|
 |S T U V W X|
 |# # Y Z # #|
 |___________|

That's all for now... :)

MAtt.

(the UPPERCASE word should be DEMON to reply ;)

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