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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 21 Jan 1998.
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ASCII ART article- in Swedish...

ASCII ART article- in Swedish...

alt.ascii-art · 7 messages · 21 Jan 1998 - 3 Feb 1998
Spunk1111 <spu...@aol.com> ASCII art 21 Jan 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
I just want to share with you a site which has an article about
ASCII art-- those of you who can read Swedish are in luck...
Darling Magazine at: http://www.drrling.se/nr12/ascii_art/

To be honest, I can only pick out bits and pieces... but that's
only because I answered some questions about ASCII art for
the journalist.  I knew what he asked me...  Those of you who
read it, let me know if the English-->Swedish interpretation of
ASCII art turned out... (do I sound like I know what I'm talking
about?)

Anyhow, even if you can't read Swedish, there is a lot of ASCII
art at the site-- not just within the ASCII art article either...

-joan
--
jgs  (\/)   .-.  .-.
      \/   ((`-)(-`))                                   (\/)
            \\    //      (\/)     I LOVE ASCII ART!     \/
             \\  //        \/
      .="""=._))((_.="""=.
     /  .,   .'  '.   ,.  \            joan stark
    /__(,_.-'      '-._,)__\      <spu...@juno.com>
   `    /|             |\   `                               (\/)
       /_|__         __|_\                                   \/
 (\/)    | `))     ((` |           ASCII ART GALLERY:
  \/     |             |   http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373/
        -"==         =="-

Spunk1111 wrote:
> 
> I just want to share with you a site which has an article about
> ASCII art-- those of you who can read Swedish are in luck...

:)

> Darling Magazine at: http://www.drrling.se/nr12/ascii_art/
> 
> To be honest, I can only pick out bits and pieces... but that's
> only because I answered some questions about ASCII art for
> the journalist.  I knew what he asked me...  Those of you who
> read it, let me know if the English-->Swedish interpretation of
> ASCII art turned out... (do I sound like I know what I'm talking
> about?)
> 

That sounds like a challenge...

> Anyhow, even if you can't read Swedish, there is a lot of ASCII
> art at the site-- not just within the ASCII art article either...
> 

Really? Where? (I didn't find any)

> -joan
> --
> jgs  (\/)   .-.  .-.
>       \/   ((`-)(-`))                                   (\/)
>             \\    //      (\/)     I LOVE ASCII ART!     \/
>              \\  //        \/
>       .="""=._))((_.="""=.
>      /  .,   .'  '.   ,.  \            joan stark
>     /__(,_.-'      '-._,)__\      <spu...@juno.com>
>    `    /|             |\   `                               (\/)
>        /_|__         __|_\                                   \/
>  (\/)    | `))     ((` |           ASCII ART GALLERY:
>   \/     |             |   http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373/
>         -"==         =="-


Ok, here's a quick translation of the article:


[Comments from me (VK) look like this. I have added URLs where there
were links in the pages]

from: http://www.drrling.se/nr12/ascii_art/
> 
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> /_/    \_\_____/ \_____|_____|_____|    \__,_|_|   \__|
>                                                        
>                                  - en bild av tusen ord
>                                  
>                                  av Dan Linder
>

ASCII art - one picture of a thousand words

by Dan Linder ( Dan...@rmi-berghs.se )

>
> r du bra p att gra en bild av Bob Dylan, Kakmonstret, din katt
> eller Eiffeltornet med hjlp av ngra parenteser, ett par apostrofer
> och ngra bokstver? D kan du bli ASCII-konstnr nr du blir
> stor. Det som frr betecknades som slitsamt datanrderi har blivit en
> egen konstform p Internet.
>

Are you good at making a picture of Bob Dylan, the Cookie Monster [?],
your cat or the Eiffel Tower with the aid of a few parentheses, a
couple of apostrophes and a few letters? Then you can become an ASCII-
artist when you grow up. What used to be considered hard work for
computer nerds has become an art from of its own on the Internet.

> ASCII-art (uttalas asski) r en frkortning av American Standard Code
> for Information Interchange. Med andra ord r det bilder som skapas av
> tecken (siffror, bokstver, snedstreck, parenteser...) frn ett
> tangentbord. Totalt anvnder man omkring 97 tecken, det vill sga i
> stort sett alla som finns. Ett riktigt petjobb som tar tid och krver
> stort tlamod men som blir riktigt vackert nr det r klart. 
>

ASCII art (pronounced asski [that makes sense in Swedish]) is short
for American Standard Code for Information Interchange. In other words
it is pictures created of characters (digits, letters, slashes [?],
parentheses...) from a keyboard. Totally one uses about 97 characters,
that is practially all that exist. A really picky job that takes time
and demands great patience but which becomes really beautiful when
it is done.

> ASCII-konsten har sitt ursprung i en konstform som kallas "art typing"
> och frn brjan satt man och mlade sina konstverk p vanliga
> skrivmaskiner. Konstens egentlige "uppfinnare" heter Christopher
> Latham Sholes, mannen som uppfann urskrivmaskinen 1867. ASCII-konsten
> har allts haft 131 r p sig att utvecklas. 
>

The ASCII art originates from an art form called "art typing" and from
the beginning one sat and painted great works of art on ordinairy
typewriters. The real "inventor" of the art is called Christopher
Latham Sholes, the man who invented the typewriter in 1867. Thus ASCII
art has had 131 years to evolve.

> Det tidigaste exemplet p art typing gjordes av en koreansk konstnr,
> Gwang Hyuk Lee, som mitt under brinnande Koreakrig (omkring 1950) tog
> hela texten ur Bibelns Johannesevangelium och skapade en stor bild av
> Jesus. Dessvrre sg inte nordkoreanska kommunister med blida gon p
> nyskapande konst, s Gwang Hyuk Lee ddades fr det han gjort. 
>

The earliest example of art typing was made by a Korean artist, Gwang
Hyuk Lee, who right in the middle of an ongoing war in Korea (around
1950) took the whole text of the [?] from the Bible and created a big
picture of Jesus. Unfortunately North Korean communists didn't like
creative art, so Gwang Hyuk Lee was killed for what he had done.

> Spanjoren Guillermo Mendana Olivera hade Lee som frebild och satt i
> brjan av 60-talet, i Leon i Spanien, och gjorde stortartad
> teckenkonst med bara ett ftal olika tecken: x, o, kommatecken och
> mellanslag. Olivera var stenograf p dagarna och msterlig
> ASCII-konstnr p ntterna. 
>

The Spaniard Guillermo Mendana Olivera had Lee as a role model when he
sat in Leon in Spain in the beginning of the 60's and made great
character art with just a few different characters: x, o, comma and
space. Olivera was a stenographer during the days and a master ASCII
artist during the nights.


from: http://www.drrling.se/nr12/ascii_art/2.html
> 
> Joan Starks guide till ASCII-skapande:
>

Joan Stark's guide to making ASCII:

> - Gr sm, enkla bilder till att brja med. ga-nsa-mun.
>

- Make small, simple pictures to start with. Eye-nose-mouth.

> - Gr alltid en modell eller skiss av den bild du tnkt dig.
>

- Always make a model or a sketch of the picture you have in mind.

> - Stressa inte. ASCII-konst r tids- och tlamodskrvande till max.
>

- Don't stress. ASCII art demands huge amounts of time and patience.

> - Kontrollera proportioner.
>

- Check the proportions.

> - Lita till ditt gonmtt. Om du sjlv inte kan se att det r en
> knguru, kan ingen annan det heller.
>

- Trust your eye measure [?]. If you can't see that it's a kangaroo,
then nobody else will either.

> - Lmna plats fr betraktarens fantasi, men gr inte bilderna
> plottriga med massor av smdetaljer som frstr helhetsintrycket. Ju
> renare, desto bttre.
>

- Leave space for the imagination of the viewer [?], but don't make
the images too cluttered with lots of little details that destroy the
total impression. The cleaner, the better.

> - Studera tecknade figurer i serietidningar. Profilbilder r lttast.
>

- Study cartoon characters in cartoon magazines. Pictures in profile
are the easiest.

> - Ska du skicka in din ASCII-bild till en newsgroup eller liknande, s
> se till att signera ditt verk. Interaktiva konststlder och plagiat
> finns det gott om.
>

- If you intend to send your ASCII picture to a newsgroup or something
like that, make sure you sign your work. There are plenty of
interactive art thefts and plagiarism.

> - Kolla hur andra ASCII-konstnrer gr sina bilder.
>

- See how other ASCII artists make their pictures.

> 
> Joan Starks galleri med ASCII-konst finns att hitta hr
> 

Joan Stark's ASCII art gallery can be found here:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373 


from: http://www.drrling.se/nr12/ascii_art/2.html
> 
> 
> Fyrabarnsmamman Joan Stark frn Mississippi i USA r en av mnga som
> lagt ut sin konst p ntet. P knappt tv r har hon byggt upp ett
> stort arkiv ASCII-bilder som frestller allt frn seriefigurer,
> husdjur, byggnader och hennes familj.

Mother of four children, Joan Stark from Mississippi in USA is one of
many who have put out their art on the net. In less than two years she
has built a large archive of ASCII images of everything from cartoon
characters, pets, buildings and her family.

> - Det var mest av en slump jag fick upp gonen fr den hr
> konstformen, berttar Joan. Jag fick ett mail med en liten bild p
> en cykel. D visste jag inte ens vad bilderna kallades, men jag blev
> fullstndigt sld p det, och frstod att folk mste ha grava
> sysselsttningsproblem som hller p med det.

- It was mostly by coincidence that I noticed this art form, joan
tells me. I got an email with a little picture of a bike. Back then I
didn't even know what the pictures were called, but I became totally
addicted to it, and realised that people must suffer from serious lack
of something sensible to occupy themselves with in order to do this.

> - Kort drp brjade jag skte jag efter fler bilder p Yahoo och
> hittade ett stlle dr man kunde skicka in sina egna ASCII-bilder. Och
> i juli 1996 brjade  jag data ihop egna teckningar. 
>

- Shortly after I started to look for more pictures on Yahoo and found
a place where one could send in one's own ASCII images. And in July
1996 I started to make pictures of my own.

> Vad r det som r s fascinerande med ASCII?
>
> - Dels r de roligare och smidigare att f och skicka per mail n
> vanliga pics. ASCII r ju text och tar drfr mindre plats.
> - Dels finns det bara 94 tecken att jobba med (97 i Sverige med , 
> och ) och det r allt.
> - Och s ligger det en fet utmaning i att anvnda ett tangentbord som
> palett och skrm som duk.
>

What is it that is so fascinating about ASCII?

- Partly they are more fun and leaner to get and send in email than
ordinairy pics. ASCII is text and because of this it takes less room.
- Partly there is only 94 characters to work with (97 in Sweden with
,  and  [NOT!]) and that is all.
- And then there is a fat challenge in using a keyboard as a palette
and a screen as a canvas.

> Det finns olika stt att skapa ASCII-konst p.  Ett stt r att
> anvnda program som modellerar bilderna, till exempel Gifscii. Men det
> r inget Joan Stark rekommenderar, bilderna blir kantiga och fula:
>

There are different ways to make ASCII art. One way is to use programs
that design the images, for example Gifscii
( http://www.io360.com/v2/yo/asciiworld/gs.html ). But that is nothing
Joan Stark recommends, the pictures become square and ugly:

>        :                                 :
>                  :                                   :
>                  :  RRVIttIti+==iiii++iii++=;:,       :
>                  : IBMMMMWWWWMMMMMBXXVVYYIi=;:,        :
>                  : tBBMMMWWWMMMMMMBXXXVYIti;;;:,,      :
>                  t YXIXBMMWMMBMBBRXVIi+==;::;::::       ,
>                 ;t IVYt+=+iIIVMBYi=:,,,=i+=;:::::,      ;;
>                 YX=YVIt+=,,:=VWBt;::::=,,:::;;;:;:     ;;;
>                 VMiXRttItIVRBBWRi:.tXXVVYItiIi==;:   ;;;;
>                 =XIBWMMMBBBMRMBXi;,tXXRRXXXVYYt+;;: ;;;;;
>                  =iBWWMMBBMBBWBY;;;,YXRRRRXXVIi;;;:;,;;;=
>                   iXMMMMMWWBMWMY+;=+IXRRXXVYIi;:;;:,,;;=
>                   iBRBBMMMMYYXV+:,:;+XRXXVIt+;;:;++::;;;
>                   =MRRRBMMBBYtt;::::;+VXVIi=;;;:;=+;;;;=
>                    XBRBBBBBMMBRRVItttYYYYt=;;;;;;==:;=
>                     VRRRRRBRRRRXRVYYIttiti=::;:::=;=
>                      YRRRRXXVIIYIiitt+++ii=:;:::;==
>                      +XRRXIIIIYVVI;i+=;=tt=;::::;:;
>                       tRRXXVYti++==;;;=iYt;:::::,;;
>                        IXRRXVVVVYYItiitIIi=:::;,::;
>                         tVXRRRBBRXVYYYIti;::::,::::
>                          YVYVYYYYYItti+=:,,,,,:::::;
>                          YRVI+==;;;;;:,,,,,,,:::::::
> 
> 
> 
> "Solid-style" r en annan mjlighet - men rtt svr. Den anvnds mest
> till att skugga och konturera bilderna: 
>

"Solid style" is another possibility - but quite difficult. It is
mostly used to shade and construct the images:

> 
>       _                      _______                      _
>    _dMMMb._              .adOOOOOOOOOba.              _,dMMMb_
>   dP'  ~YMMb            dOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOb            aMMP~  `Yb
>   V      ~"Mb          dOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOb          dM"~      V
>            `Mb.       dOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOb       ,dM'
>             `YMb._   |OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO|   _,dMP'
>        __     `YMMM| OP'~"YOOOOOOOOOOOP"~`YO |MMMP'     __
>      ,dMMMb.     ~~' OO     `YOOOOOP'     OO `~~     ,dMMMb.
>   _,dP~  `YMba_      OOb      `OOO'      dOO      _aMMP'  ~Yb._
>  <MMP'     `~YMMa_   YOOo   @  OOO  @   oOOP   _adMP~'      `YMM>
>               `YMMMM\`OOOo     OOO     oOOO'/MMMMP' 
>       ,aa.     `~YMMb `OOOb._,dOOOb._,dOOO'dMMP~'       ,aa.
>     ,dMYYMba._         `OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO'          _,adMYYMb. 
>    ,MP'   `YMMba._      OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO       _,adMMP'   `YM.
>    MP'        ~YMMMba._ YOOOOPVVVVVYOOOOP  _,adMMMMP~       `YM
>    YMb           ~YMMMM\`OOOOI`````IOOOOO'/MMMMP~           dMP
>     `Mb.           `YMMMb`OOOI,,,,,IOOOO'dMMMP'           ,dM'
>       `'                  `OObNNNNNdOO'                   `'
>                             `~OOOOO~'   TISSUE
> 
> "Line-style" r precis vad det lter som; ASCII-konst med enbart raka
> streck:

"Line style" is just what it sounds like; ASCII art with only straight
lines:

> 
>                                                    (|
>                                                     ||_
>                                                    =///`\
>                               (\                   \\\) |
>                              __\\                   `|~~|
>                             (((<_|            ____   |  |
>                              `-__/\         /~    ~\|   |
>                                 \  ~-_     |--|     |___|
>                                  `\   ~-_  |_/     /--__/
>                                    `\/ / ~-_\___--/    /
>                                      `-_    ~/   /    /
>                                         ~-_ /   |   _/
>                                            |         |
>                                           |~~~~~-----|
>                                           |___----~~~/
>                _-~~\                       \_       /
>              /(_|_-~                       |       /
>            /   /~==[]\     ____-------_    |_____--|   ______________
>          /    (_ //(\0)~~~~    YAMAHA  ~\ /_-       \/'         ___/ ~~~~/
>         (|      ~~--__                   |/         )_____---~~~    YZF  \
>          \.      ___  ~~--__ ____        /        _-/              __--~~'
>            ~\    \\\\       ~~-_ ~-____ /      _-~~          __--~~___
>       _ ----/ \    \\\\         ~-_    /---__-~        __--~~----~~_  ]=
>    _-~ ___ / /__\   ~~~            ~-_ ( )-~ ~-_~~~/~~~ _-~         ~-_
>   /-~~~_-|/ /    ~\                  _) ~-_     \ /~~~~~---__-----_    \
>  ;    / \/_//`\    \           __--~~/_   \~-_ _-\ ~~~~~~~~~~~~-/_/\    .
>  |   | \((*))/ |   |\    __--~~     /o \   `\ ~-  `\----_____( 0) ) |   |
>  |    \  |~|  /    | )-~~           \ 0 )    |/' _-~/~--------| |~ /    ,
>   \    ~-----~    / /                ~~~~~~~~/_/O_/'   \    ~-----~    /
>    ~-_         _-~ `---------------------------'        `-_         _-~
>       ~ ----- ~                                            ~ ----- ~  -TX
> 


from: http://www.drrling.se/nr12/ascii_art/3.html

> ASCII-art siter:
>

ASCII art sites:

> Best of Ascii pics
>

http://wigwam.askoyv.no/Ascii/1-l/bestoftheasciipics.txt

> Christopher Johnsons ASCII
> Art Collection
>

http://www.chris.com/ascii_art_menu.html

> Wicked ASCII Art
> Med ASCII Awards!
>

http://wigwam.askoyv.no/Ascii/

> Strawberry Jamms ASCII
> Artwork Collection
>

http://www.jamm.com/asciiart/ascii.html

> ASCII kor
>

http://ortech-engr.com/pecans/cows.html

> Beavis & Butthead 
>

http://www.digitalis.net/%7Emesser/bbhindex.html

>
> - Man mste ha en modell att jobba utifrn, sger Joan. Annars r det
> jttesvrt.
> - Egentligen handlar det bara om att veta hur och nr man ska anvnda
> tecken och se proportioner. Vill man gra en ASCII-katt br man ha
> koll p proportionerna s det inte ser ut som en isbjrn eller insekt
> nr du r klar med den. 
> - Allra bst r det att brja med krnan; om du ska gra en bjrn s
> brjar du med nosen och jobbar dig utt kanterna.
> - gonen brukar vara lttast att brja med: 66, 99, ee, aa, oo, db, qp
> r bra att anvnda dr.
> - Kurvor och sm detaljer blir bst med apostrofer, cediljer eller
> citattecken. Drefter brukar jag "fylla" bilder med kolon och
> semikolon. 
>

- One has to have a model to work from, says Joan. Otherwise it is
really difficult.
- It's really only about knowing how and hwen to use characters and
see proportions. If you want to make an ASCII cat you should make sure
to keep control over the proportions so that it doesn't end up looking
like a polar bear or an insekt when you're done with it.
- The best thing is to start with the core; if you are going to make a
bear you start with the nose and work your way towards the edges.
- The eyes are usually the easiest to start with: 66, 99, ee, aa, oo,
db, qp are good to use there.
- Curves and little details are best with apostrophes, [ ??? ], or
quotes. After that I usually "fill" pictures with colons and
semicolons.

> That's it. De tangenter som fr jobba mest nr man gr ASCII-konst r
> backspace (sudd) och mellanslagstangenten. 
>

That's it. The keys that get to work most when you make ASCII art is
the backspace (eraser) and space bar.

> - Men det gr inte gra bilder p kommando. Jag mste ha lugn och ro,
> gott om tid och mycket inspiration. Bra dagar tar det inte mer n en
> halvtimme, sger Joan.
> - De svraste och mest tidskrvande bilderna r de strsta, uppt 20
> rader hga, och de minsta. D kan det ta dagar, veckor.
> - En stor bild r svr fr att det r mnga tecken som mste fungera
> tillsammans, ungefr som en roman. En liten bild mste uttrycka
> vldigt mnga detaljer med f tecken, som poesi. 
>

- But one can't make pictures on command. I have to have peace and
quiet, plenty of time and loads of inspiration. Good days it doesn't
take more than half an hour, say Joan.
- The most difficult and most time demanding pictures are the biggest,
upwards [?] 20 lines high, and the smallest. Then it can take days,
weeks.
- A big picture is hard because there are so many characters that have
to work together, a bit like a novel. A small picture has to express
really many details with just a few characters, like poetry.

> Joan Stark har sjlv frebilder bland ASCII-konstnrerna.
> - Knnetecknande fr en bra ASCII-konstnr att han fr den som loggat
> in p hans galleri att sga "wow". S knner jag nr jag ser bilder av
> Rowan Crawford, Felix Lee och Daniel Au.
> - Riktiga perfektionister, allihopa. Det mste man vara. Slarvar man
> blir det bara skit och d fr man gra allt frn brjan igen.
>

Joan Stark herself has many role models among the ASCII artists.
- What distiguishes a good ASCII artist is that he gets the person who
logs in to his gallery to say "wow". That's how I feel when I see
pictures by
Rowan Crawford ( http://www.afn.org/%7Eafn39695/crawford.htm ),
Felix Lee ( http://www.teleport.com/%7Eflee/home.shtml ) and
Daniel Au ( http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/%7Edcau/newdcau.htm ).
- Real perfectionists, all of them. You have to be. If you are
careless it just becomes shit and you have to startall over from the
beginning again.

> Och ASCII-konsten har kommit till Internet fr att stanna. tminstone
> enligt Joan Stark:
> - Om sg tre, fyra r tror jag ASCII-konsten r mer knd n nu. Folk
> skickar dem redan nu p kul med e-mail eller anvnder dem p
> hemsidor. Men ASCII-konsten kommer aldrig kunna erstta vanliga gif-
> eller jpeg-bilder. Den kommer bara att finnas dr p kul.
>

And ASCII art has come to the Internet to stay. At least according to
Joan Stark:
- In say three, four years I think that ASCII art will be better known
that it is now. People already send them for fun in email or use them
on homepages. But ASCII art will never be able to replace ordinairy
gif or jpeg images. It will just be there for fun.

> Joan Stark tror ocks att ASCII fr en massa "junkies", precis som
> till exempel MUD-spelen ftt.
> - Man kan bli riktigt fast p det hr. Hg. Jag har drmt i ASCII
> flera gnger och det var verkligen helsjukt. ASCII-konst kan verkligen
> gra skumma saker med din hjrna.
>

Joan Stark also believes that ASCII art will have lots of "junkies",
just like for example the MUD games have got.
- You can get really hooked on this. High. I have dreamed in ASCII
several times and it was really totally sick. ASCII art can really do
weird things to your brain.

> I Sverige finns det inga ASCII-konstnrer, n. Hr tror vi att ASCII
> r ngot fr datanrdar, inte att det r en seris konstform. Mrten
> Castenfors r konstkritiker p Svenska Dagbladet, han tror dremot att
> ASCII-konsten har en framtid.
> - All konst som r bra eller som gr ngot bra mste sjlvklart
> betraktas som seris konst. Och all seris konst har en framtid, menar
> han.
>

There are no ASCII artists in Sweden, yet [ :-D ]. Here we think that
ASCII is something for computer nerds, not that it is a serious art
form. Mrten Castenfors is an art critic for Svenska Dagbladed [A
Swedish newspaper], he on the other hand thinks that ASCII art has a
future. 
- All art that is good or that does something good must of course be
looked upon as serious art. And all serious art has a future, he says.

> S fr den som vill bli pionjr inom svensk ASCII-konst r det fritt
> fram. Datanrd eller ej.
> 

So for anybody who wants to become a pioneer in Swedish ASCII art just
go for it. Computer nerd or not.

>
> /Dan Linder
>



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( \`. )    //\`      \_/\___|_| \___/_||_|_\__\__,_|    '/\\    ( .'/ )
 \_`-'`---'\\__,                                       ,__//`---'`-'_/
  \`        `-\    uggc://jjj.yhqq.yhgu.fr/hfref/ix/    /-'        '/
   ` _____________________ r93...@fz.yhgu.fr ____________________ '
        LIKE MY SIG? GO HERE: http://www.surfplaza.com/figlet/

Veronica Karlsson <dre...@on.spammer> ASCII art 21 Jan 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Veronica Karlsson wrote:
> 
[ 8< long translation neatly stripped of a few critical characters... I
do HATE this stupid program for not being able to handle such important
things properly!!! :( :( :( 8< ]

Ok, new try.... :-/

-- 
              _                                         _
  __   ___.--'_`.  __   __                _           .'_`--.___   __
 ( _`.'. -   'o` ) \ \ / /__ _ _ ___ _ _ (_)__ __ _  ( 'o`   - .`.'_ )
 _\.'_'      _.-'   \ V / -_) '_/ _ \ ' \| / _/ _` |  `-._      `_`./_
( \`. )    //\`      \_/\___|_| \___/_||_|_\__\__,_|    '/\\    ( .'/ )
 \_`-'`---'\\__,                                       ,__//`---'`-'_/
  \`        `-\    uggc://jjj.yhqq.yhgu.fr/hfref/ix/    /-'        '/
   ` _____________________ r93...@fz.yhgu.fr ____________________ '
        LIKE MY SIG? GO HERE: http://www.surfplaza.com/figlet/



[Comments from me (VK) look like this. I have added URLs where there
were links in the pages]

from: http://www.drrling.se/nr12/ascii_art/
> 
>            _____  _____ _____ _____                _   
>     /\    / ____|/ ____|_   _|_   _|              | |  
>    /  \  | (___ | |      | |   | |______ __ _ _ __| |_ 
>   / /\ \  \___ \| |      | |   | |______/ _` | '__| __|
>  / ____ \ ____) | |____ _| |_ _| |_    | (_| | |  | |_ 
> /_/    \_\_____/ \_____|_____|_____|    \__,_|_|   \__|
>                                                        
>                                  - en bild av tusen ord
>                                  
>                                  av Dan Linder
>

ASCII art - one picture of a thousand words

by Dan Linder ( Dan...@rmi-berghs.se )

>
> �r du bra p� att g�ra en bild av Bob Dylan, Kakmonstret, din katt
> eller Eiffeltornet med hj�lp av n�gra parenteser, ett par apostrofer
> och n�gra bokst�ver? D� kan du bli ASCII-konstn�r n�r du blir
> stor. Det som f�rr betecknades som slitsamt datan�rderi har blivit en
> egen konstform p� Internet.
>

Are you good at making a picture of Bob Dylan, the Cookie Monster [?],
your cat or the Eiffel Tower with the aid of a few parentheses, a
couple of apostrophes and a few letters? Then you can become an ASCII-
artist when you grow up. What used to be considered hard work for
computer nerds has become an art from of its own on the Internet.

> ASCII-art (uttalas asski) �r en f�rkortning av American Standard Code
> for Information Interchange. Med andra ord �r det bilder som skapas av
> tecken (siffror, bokst�ver, snedstreck, parenteser...) fr�n ett
> tangentbord. Totalt anv�nder man omkring 97 tecken, det vill s�ga i
> stort sett alla som finns. Ett riktigt petjobb som tar tid och kr�ver
> stort t�lamod men som blir riktigt vackert n�r det �r klart. 
>

ASCII art (pronounced asski [that makes sense in Swedish]) is short
for American Standard Code for Information Interchange. In other words
it is pictures created of characters (digits, letters, slashes [?],
parentheses...) from a keyboard. Totally one uses about 97 characters,
that is practially all that exist. A really picky job that takes time
and demands great patience but which becomes really beautiful when
it is done.

> ASCII-konsten har sitt ursprung i en konstform som kallas "art typing"
> och fr�n b�rjan satt man och m�lade sina konstverk p� vanliga
> skrivmaskiner. Konstens egentlige "uppfinnare" heter Christopher
> Latham Sholes, mannen som uppfann urskrivmaskinen 1867. ASCII-konsten
> har allts� haft 131 �r p� sig att utvecklas. 
>

The ASCII art originates from an art form called "art typing" and from
the beginning one sat and painted great works of art on ordinairy
typewriters. The real "inventor" of the art is called Christopher
Latham Sholes, the man who invented the typewriter in 1867. Thus ASCII
art has had 131 years to evolve.

> Det tidigaste exemplet p� art typing gjordes av en koreansk konstn�r,
> Gwang Hyuk Lee, som mitt under brinnande Koreakrig (omkring 1950) tog
> hela texten ur Bibelns Johannesevangelium och skapade en stor bild av
> Jesus. Dessv�rre s�g inte nordkoreanska kommunister med blida �gon p�
> nyskapande konst, s� Gwang Hyuk Lee d�dades f�r det han gjort. 
>

The earliest example of art typing was made by a Korean artist, Gwang
Hyuk Lee, who right in the middle of an ongoing war in Korea (around
1950) took the whole text of the [?] from the Bible and created a big
picture of Jesus. Unfortunately North Korean communists didn't like
creative art, so Gwang Hyuk Lee was killed for what he had done.

> Spanjoren Guillermo Mendana Olivera hade Lee som f�rebild och satt i
> b�rjan av 60-talet, i Leon i Spanien, och gjorde stortartad
> teckenkonst med bara ett f�tal olika tecken: x, o, kommatecken och
> mellanslag. Olivera var stenograf p� dagarna och m�sterlig
> ASCII-konstn�r p� n�tterna. 
>

The Spaniard Guillermo Mendana Olivera had Lee as a role model when he
sat in Leon in Spain in the beginning of the 60's and made great
character art with just a few different characters: x, o, comma and
space. Olivera was a stenographer during the days and a master ASCII
artist during the nights.


from: http://www.drrling.se/nr12/ascii_art/2.html
> 
> Joan Starks guide till ASCII-skapande:
>

Joan Stark's guide to making ASCII:

> - G�r sm�, enkla bilder till att b�rja med. �ga-n�sa-mun.
>

- Make small, simple pictures to start with. Eye-nose-mouth.

> - G�r alltid en modell eller skiss av den bild du t�nkt dig.
>

- Always make a model or a sketch of the picture you have in mind.

> - Stressa inte. ASCII-konst �r tids- och t�lamodskr�vande till max.
>

- Don't stress. ASCII art demands huge amounts of time and patience.

> - Kontrollera proportioner.
>

- Check the proportions.

> - Lita till ditt �gonm�tt. Om du sj�lv inte kan se att det �r en
> k�nguru, kan ingen annan det heller.
>

- Trust your eye measure [?]. If you can't see that it's a kangaroo,
then nobody else will either.

> - L�mna plats f�r betraktarens fantasi, men g�r inte bilderna
> plottriga med massor av sm�detaljer som f�rst�r helhetsintrycket. Ju
> renare, desto b�ttre.
>

- Leave space for the imagination of the viewer [?], but don't make
the images too cluttered with lots of little details that destroy the
total impression. The cleaner, the better.

> - Studera tecknade figurer i serietidningar. Profilbilder �r l�ttast.
>

- Study cartoon characters in cartoon magazines. Pictures in profile
are the easiest.

> - Ska du skicka in din ASCII-bild till en newsgroup eller liknande, s�
> se till att signera ditt verk. Interaktiva konstst�lder och plagiat
> finns det gott om.
>

- If you intend to send your ASCII picture to a newsgroup or something
like that, make sure you sign your work. There are plenty of
interactive art thefts and plagiarism.

> - Kolla hur andra ASCII-konstn�rer g�r sina bilder.
>

- See how other ASCII artists make their pictures.

> 
> Joan Starks galleri med ASCII-konst finns att hitta h�r
> 

Joan Stark's ASCII art gallery can be found here:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373 


from: http://www.drrling.se/nr12/ascii_art/2.html
> 
> 
> Fyrabarnsmamman Joan Stark fr�n Mississippi i USA �r en av m�nga som
> lagt ut sin konst p� n�tet. P� knappt tv� �r har hon byggt upp ett
> stort arkiv ASCII-bilder som f�rest�ller allt fr�n seriefigurer,
> husdjur, byggnader och hennes familj.

Mother of four children, Joan Stark from Mississippi in USA is one of
many who have put out their art on the net. In less than two years she
has built a large archive of ASCII images of everything from cartoon
characters, pets, buildings and her family.

> - Det var mest av en slump jag fick upp �gonen f�r den h�r
> konstformen, ber�ttar Joan. Jag fick ett mail med en liten bild p�
> en cykel. D� visste jag inte ens vad bilderna kallades, men jag blev
> fullst�ndigt s�ld p� det, och f�rstod att folk m�ste ha grava
> syssels�ttningsproblem som h�ller p� med det.

- It was mostly by coincidence that I noticed this art form, joan
tells me. I got an email with a little picture of a bike. Back then I
didn't even know what the pictures were called, but I became totally
addicted to it, and realised that people must suffer from serious lack
of something sensible to occupy themselves with in order to do this.

> - Kort d�rp� b�rjade jag s�kte jag efter fler bilder p� Yahoo och
> hittade ett st�lle d�r man kunde skicka in sina egna ASCII-bilder. Och
> i juli 1996 b�rjade  jag data ihop egna teckningar. 
>

- Shortly after I started to look for more pictures on Yahoo and found
a place where one could send in one's own ASCII images. And in July
1996 I started to make pictures of my own.

> Vad �r det som �r s� fascinerande med ASCII?
>
> - Dels �r de roligare och smidigare att f� och skicka per mail �n
> vanliga pics. ASCII �r ju text och tar d�rf�r mindre plats.
> - Dels finns det bara 94 tecken att jobba med (97 i Sverige med �, �
> och �) och det �r allt.
> - Och s� ligger det en fet utmaning i att anv�nda ett tangentbord som
> palett och sk�rm som duk.
>

What is it that is so fascinating about ASCII?

- Partly they are more fun and leaner to get and send in email than
ordinairy pics. ASCII is text and because of this it takes less room.
- Partly there is only 94 characters to work with (97 in Sweden with
�, � and � [NOT!]) and that is all.
- And then there is a fat challenge in using a keyboard as a palette
and a screen as a canvas.

> Det finns olika s�tt att skapa ASCII-konst p�.  Ett s�tt �r att
> anv�nda program som modellerar bilderna, till exempel Gifscii. Men det
> �r inget Joan Stark rekommenderar, bilderna blir kantiga och fula:
>

There are different ways to make ASCII art. One way is to use programs
that design the images, for example Gifscii
( http://www.io360.com/v2/yo/asciiworld/gs.html ). But that is nothing
Joan Stark recommends, the pictures become square and ugly:

>        :                                 :
>                  :                                   :
>                  :  RRVIttIti+==iiii++iii++=;:,       :
>                  : IBMMMMWWWWMMMMMBXXVVYYIi=;:,        :
>                  : tBBMMMWWWMMMMMMBXXXVYIti;;;:,,      :
>                  t YXIXBMMWMMBMBBRXVIi+==;::;::::       ,
>                 ;t IVYt+=+iIIVMBYi=:,,,=i+=;:::::,      ;;
>                 YX=YVIt+=,,:=VWBt;::::=,,:::;;;:;:     ;;;
>                 VMiXRttItIVRBBWRi:.tXXVVYItiIi==;:   ;;;;
>                 =XIBWMMMBBBMRMBXi;,tXXRRXXXVYYt+;;: ;;;;;
>                  =iBWWMMBBMBBWBY;;;,YXRRRRXXVIi;;;:;,;;;=
>                   iXMMMMMWWBMWMY+;=+IXRRXXVYIi;:;;:,,;;=
>                   iBRBBMMMMYYXV+:,:;+XRXXVIt+;;:;++::;;;
>                   =MRRRBMMBBYtt;::::;+VXVIi=;;;:;=+;;;;=
>                    XBRBBBBBMMBRRVItttYYYYt=;;;;;;==:;=
>                     VRRRRRBRRRRXRVYYIttiti=::;:::=;=
>                      YRRRRXXVIIYIiitt+++ii=:;:::;==
>                      +XRRXIIIIYVVI;i+=;=tt=;::::;:;
>                       tRRXXVYti++==;;;=iYt;:::::,;;
>                        IXRRXVVVVYYItiitIIi=:::;,::;
>                         tVXRRRBBRXVYYYIti;::::,::::
>                          YVYVYYYYYItti+=:,,,,,:::::;
>                          YRVI+==;;;;;:,,,,,,,:::::::
> 
> 
> 
> "Solid-style" �r en annan m�jlighet - men r�tt sv�r. Den anv�nds mest
> till att skugga och konturera bilderna: 
>

"Solid style" is another possibility - but quite difficult. It is
mostly used to shade and construct the images:

> 
>       _                      _______                      _
>    _dMMMb._              .adOOOOOOOOOba.              _,dMMMb_
>   dP'  ~YMMb            dOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOb            aMMP~  `Yb
>   V      ~"Mb          dOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOb          dM"~      V
>            `Mb.       dOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOb       ,dM'
>             `YMb._   |OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO|   _,dMP'
>        __     `YMMM| OP'~"YOOOOOOOOOOOP"~`YO |MMMP'     __
>      ,dMMMb.     ~~' OO     `YOOOOOP'     OO `~~     ,dMMMb.
>   _,dP~  `YMba_      OOb      `OOO'      dOO      _aMMP'  ~Yb._
>  <MMP'     `~YMMa_   YOOo   @  OOO  @   oOOP   _adMP~'      `YMM>
>               `YMMMM\`OOOo     OOO     oOOO'/MMMMP' 
>       ,aa.     `~YMMb `OOOb._,dOOOb._,dOOO'dMMP~'       ,aa.
>     ,dMYYMba._         `OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO'          _,adMYYMb. 
>    ,MP'   `YMMba._      OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO       _,adMMP'   `YM.
>    MP'        ~YMMMba._ YOOOOPVVVVVYOOOOP  _,adMMMMP~       `YM
>    YMb           ~YMMMM\`OOOOI`````IOOOOO'/MMMMP~           dMP
>     `Mb.           `YMMMb`OOOI,,,,,IOOOO'dMMMP'           ,dM'
>       `'                  `OObNNNNNdOO'                   `'
>                             `~OOOOO~'   TISSUE
> 
> "Line-style" �r precis vad det l�ter som; ASCII-konst med enbart raka
> streck:

"Line style" is just what it sounds like; ASCII art with only straight
lines:

> 
>                                                    (|
>                                                     ||_
>                                                    =///`\
>                               (\                   \\\) |
>                              __\\                   `|~~|
>                             (((<_|            ____   |  |
>                              `-__/\         /~    ~\|   |
>                                 \  ~-_     |--|     |___|
>                                  `\   ~-_  |_/     /--__/
>                                    `\/ / ~-_\___--/    /
>                                      `-_    ~/   /    /
>                                         ~-_ /   |   _/
>                                            |         |
>                                           |~~~~~-----|
>                                           |___----~~~/
>                _-~~\                       \_       /
>              /(_|_-~                       |       /
>            /   /~==[]\     ____-------_    |_____--|   ______________
>          /    (_ //(\0)~~~~    YAMAHA  ~\ /_-       \/'         ___/ ~~~~/
>         (|      ~~--__                   |/         )_____---~~~    YZF  \
>          \.      ___  ~~--__ ____        /        _-/              __--~~'
>            ~\    \\\\       ~~-_ ~-____ /      _-~~          __--~~___
>       _ ----/ \    \\\\         ~-_    /---__-~        __--~~----~~_  ]=
>    _-~ ___ / /__\   ~~~            ~-_ ( )-~ ~-_~~~/~~~ _-~         ~-_
>   /-~~~_-|/ /    ~\                  _) ~-_     \ /~~~~~---__-----_    \
>  ;    / \/_//`\    \           __--~~/_   \~-_ _-\ ~~~~~~~~~~~~-/_/\    .
>  |   | \((*))/ |   |\    __--~~     /o \   `\ ~-  `\----_____( 0) ) |   |
>  |    \  |~|  /    | )-~~           \ 0 )    |/' _-~/~--------| |~ /    ,
>   \    ~-----~    / /                ~~~~~~~~/_/O_/'   \    ~-----~    /
>    ~-_         _-~ `---------------------------'        `-_         _-~
>       ~ ----- ~                                            ~ ----- ~  -TX
> 


from: http://www.drrling.se/nr12/ascii_art/3.html

> ASCII-art siter:
>

ASCII art sites:

> Best of Ascii pics
>

http://wigwam.askoyv.no/Ascii/1-l/bestoftheasciipics.txt

> Christopher Johnson�s ASCII
> Art Collection
>

http://www.chris.com/ascii_art_menu.html

> Wicked ASCII Art
> Med ASCII Awards!
>

http://wigwam.askoyv.no/Ascii/

> Strawberry Jamm�s ASCII
> Artwork Collection
>

http://www.jamm.com/asciiart/ascii.html

> ASCII kor
>

http://ortech-engr.com/pecans/cows.html

> Beavis & Butthead 
>

http://www.digitalis.net/%7Emesser/bbhindex.html

>
> - Man m�ste ha en modell att jobba utifr�n, s�ger Joan. Annars �r det
> j�ttesv�rt.
> - Egentligen handlar det bara om att veta hur och n�r man ska anv�nda
> tecken och se proportioner. Vill man g�ra en ASCII-katt b�r man ha
> koll p� proportionerna s� det inte ser ut som en isbj�rn eller insekt
> n�r du �r klar med den. 
> - Allra b�st �r det att b�rja med k�rnan; om du ska g�ra en bj�rn s�
> b�rjar du med nosen och jobbar dig ut�t kanterna.
> - �gonen brukar vara l�ttast att b�rja med: 66, 99, ee, aa, oo, db, qp
> �r bra att anv�nda d�r.
> - Kurvor och sm� detaljer blir b�st med apostrofer, cediljer eller
> citattecken. D�refter brukar jag "fylla" bilder med kolon och
> semikolon. 
>

- One has to have a model to work from, says Joan. Otherwise it is
really difficult.
- It's really only about knowing how and hwen to use characters and
see proportions. If you want to make an ASCII cat you should make sure
to keep control over the proportions so that it doesn't end up looking
like a polar bear or an insekt when you're done with it.
- The best thing is to start with the core; if you are going to make a
bear you start with the nose and work your way towards the edges.
- The eyes are usually the easiest to start with: 66, 99, ee, aa, oo,
db, qp are good to use there.
- Curves and little details are best with apostrophes, [ ??? ], or
quotes. After that I usually "fill" pictures with colons and
semicolons.

> That's it. De tangenter som f�r jobba mest n�r man g�r ASCII-konst �r
> backspace (sudd) och mellanslagstangenten. 
>

That's it. The keys that get to work most when you make ASCII art is
the backspace (eraser) and space bar.

> - Men det g�r inte g�ra bilder p� kommando. Jag m�ste ha lugn och ro,
> gott om tid och mycket inspiration. Bra dagar tar det inte mer �n en
> halvtimme, s�ger Joan.
> - De sv�raste och mest tidskr�vande bilderna �r de st�rsta, upp�t 20
> rader h�ga, och de minsta. D� kan det ta dagar, veckor.
> - En stor bild �r sv�r f�r att det �r m�nga tecken som m�ste fungera
> tillsammans, ungef�r som en roman. En liten bild m�ste uttrycka
> v�ldigt m�nga detaljer med f� tecken, som poesi. 
>

- But one can't make pictures on command. I have to have peace and
quiet, plenty of time and loads of inspiration. Good days it doesn't
take more than half an hour, say Joan.
- The most difficult and most time demanding pictures are the biggest,
upwards [?] 20 lines high, and the smallest. Then it can take days,
weeks.
- A big picture is hard because there are so many characters that have
to work together, a bit like a novel. A small picture has to express
really many details with just a few characters, like poetry.

> Joan Stark har sj�lv f�rebilder bland ASCII-konstn�rerna.
> - K�nnetecknande f�r en bra ASCII-konstn�r att han f�r den som loggat
> in p� hans galleri att s�ga "wow". S� k�nner jag n�r jag ser bilder av
> Rowan Crawford, Felix Lee och Daniel Au.
> - Riktiga perfektionister, allihopa. Det m�ste man vara. Slarvar man
> blir det bara skit och d� f�r man g�ra allt fr�n b�rjan igen.
>

Joan Stark herself has many role models among the ASCII artists.
- What distiguishes a good ASCII artist is that he gets the person who
logs in to his gallery to say "wow". That's how I feel when I see
pictures by
Rowan Crawford ( http://www.afn.org/%7Eafn39695/crawford.htm ),
Felix Lee ( http://www.teleport.com/%7Eflee/home.shtml ) and
Daniel Au ( http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/%7Edcau/newdcau.htm ).
- Real perfectionists, all of them. You have to be. If you are
careless it just becomes shit and you have to startall over from the
beginning again.

> Och ASCII-konsten har kommit till Internet f�r att stanna. �tminstone
> enligt Joan Stark:
> - Om s�g tre, fyra �r tror jag ASCII-konsten �r mer k�nd �n nu. Folk
> skickar dem redan nu p� kul med e-mail eller anv�nder dem p�
> hemsidor. Men ASCII-konsten kommer aldrig kunna ers�tta vanliga gif-
> eller jpeg-bilder. Den kommer bara att finnas d�r p� kul.
>

And ASCII art has come to the Internet to stay. At least according to
Joan Stark:
- In say three, four years I think that ASCII art will be better known
that it is now. People already send them for fun in email or use them
on homepages. But ASCII art will never be able to replace ordinairy
gif or jpeg images. It will just be there for fun.

> Joan Stark tror ocks� att ASCII f�r en massa "junkies", precis som
> till exempel MUD-spelen f�tt.
> - Man kan bli riktigt fast p� det h�r. H�g. Jag har dr�mt i ASCII
> flera g�nger och det var verkligen helsjukt. ASCII-konst kan verkligen
> g�ra skumma saker med din hj�rna.
>

Joan Stark also believes that ASCII art will have lots of "junkies",
just like for example the MUD games have got.
- You can get really hooked on this. High. I have dreamed in ASCII
several times and it was really totally sick. ASCII art can really do
weird things to your brain.

> I Sverige finns det inga ASCII-konstn�rer, �n. H�r tror vi att ASCII
> �r n�got f�r datan�rdar, inte att det �r en seri�s konstform. M�rten
> Castenfors �r konstkritiker p� Svenska Dagbladet, han tror d�remot att
> ASCII-konsten har en framtid.
> - All konst som �r bra eller som g�r n�got bra m�ste sj�lvklart
> betraktas som seri�s konst. Och all seri�s konst har en framtid, menar
> han.
>

There are no ASCII artists in Sweden, yet [ :-D ]. Here we think that
ASCII is something for computer nerds, not that it is a serious art
form. M�rten Castenfors is an art critic for Svenska Dagbladed [A
Swedish newspaper], he on the other hand thinks that ASCII art has a
future. 
- All art that is good or that does something good must of course be
looked upon as serious art. And all serious art has a future, he says.

> S� f�r den som vill bli pionj�r inom svensk ASCII-konst �r det fritt
> fram. Datan�rd eller ej.
> 

So for anybody who wants to become a pioneer in Swedish ASCII art just
go for it. Computer nerd or not.

>
> /Dan Linder
>



Veronica Karlsson wrote in message <34C...@on.spammer>...
>Spunk1111 wrote:
>> Det tidigaste exemplet p art typing gjordes av en koreansk konstnr,
>> Gwang Hyuk Lee, som mitt under brinnande Koreakrig (omkring 1950) tog
>> hela texten ur Bibelns Johannesevangelium och skapade en stor bild av
>> Jesus. Dessvrre sg inte nordkoreanska kommunister med blida gon p
>> nyskapande konst, s Gwang Hyuk Lee ddades fr det han gjort.
>>
>
>The earliest example of art typing was made by a Korean artist, Gwang
>Hyuk Lee, who right in the middle of an ongoing war in Korea (around
>1950) took the whole text of the [?] from the Bible and created a big
>picture of Jesus. Unfortunately North Korean communists didn't like
>creative art, so Gwang Hyuk Lee was killed for what he had done.


(about the [?])
I don't speak Swedish, but I think that Johannesevangelium means the Gospel
of John--I read about it on Joan's web page, and I have the image around
here somewhere that she had a link to...


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I cain't read this, as it is not in American.



Veronica Karlsson wrote in message <34C...@on.spammer>...
>Spunk1111 wrote:
>>
>> I just want to share with you a site which has an article about
>> ASCII art-- those of you who can read Swedish are in luck...
>
>:)
>
>> Darling Magazine at: http://www.drrling.se/nr12/ascii_art/
>>
>> To be honest, I can only pick out bits and pieces... but that's
>> only because I answered some questions about ASCII art for
>> the journalist.  I knew what he asked me...  Those of you who
>> read it, let me know if the English-->Swedish interpretation of
>> ASCII art turned out... (do I sound like I know what I'm talking
>> about?)
>>
>
>That sounds like a challenge...
>
>> Anyhow, even if you can't read Swedish, there is a lot of ASCII
>> art at the site-- not just within the ASCII art article either...
>>
>
>Really? Where? (I didn't find any)
>
>> -joan
>> --
>> jgs  (\/)   .-.  .-.
>>       \/   ((`-)(-`))                                   (\/)
>>             \\    //      (\/)     I LOVE ASCII ART!     \/
>>              \\  //        \/
>>       .="""=._))((_.="""=.
>>      /  .,   .'  '.   ,.  \            joan stark
>>     /__(,_.-'      '-._,)__\      <spu...@juno.com>
>>    `    /|             |\   `                               (\/)
>>        /_|__         __|_\                                   \/
>>  (\/)    | `))     ((` |           ASCII ART GALLERY:
>>   \/     |             |   http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373/
>>         -"==         =="-
>
>
>Ok, here's a quick translation of the article:
>
>
>[Comments from me (VK) look like this. I have added URLs where there
>were links in the pages]
>
>from: http://www.drrling.se/nr12/ascii_art/
>>
>>            _____  _____ _____ _____                _
>>     /\    / ____|/ ____|_   _|_   _|              | |
>>    /  \  | (___ | |      | |   | |______ __ _ _ __| |_
>>   / /\ \  \___ \| |      | |   | |______/ _` | '__| __|
>>  / ____ \ ____) | |____ _| |_ _| |_    | (_| | |  | |_
>> /_/    \_\_____/ \_____|_____|_____|    \__,_|_|   \__|
>>
>>                                  - en bild av tusen ord
>>
>>                                  av Dan Linder
>>
>
>ASCII art - one picture of a thousand words
>
>by Dan Linder ( Dan...@rmi-berghs.se )
>
>>
>> r du bra p att gra en bild av Bob Dylan, Kakmonstret, din katt
>> eller Eiffeltornet med hjlp av ngra parenteser, ett par apostrofer
>> och ngra bokstver? D kan du bli ASCII-konstnr nr du blir
>> stor. Det som frr betecknades som slitsamt datanrderi har blivit en
>> egen konstform p Internet.
>>
>
>Are you good at making a picture of Bob Dylan, the Cookie Monster [?],
>your cat or the Eiffel Tower with the aid of a few parentheses, a
>couple of apostrophes and a few letters? Then you can become an ASCII-
>artist when you grow up. What used to be considered hard work for
>computer nerds has become an art from of its own on the Internet.
>
>> ASCII-art (uttalas asski) r en frkortning av American Standard Code
>> for Information Interchange. Med andra ord r det bilder som skapas av
>> tecken (siffror, bokstver, snedstreck, parenteser...) frn ett
>> tangentbord. Totalt anvnder man omkring 97 tecken, det vill sga i
>> stort sett alla som finns. Ett riktigt petjobb som tar tid och krver
>> stort tlamod men som blir riktigt vackert nr det r klart.
>>
>
>ASCII art (pronounced asski [that makes sense in Swedish]) is short
>for American Standard Code for Information Interchange. In other words
>it is pictures created of characters (digits, letters, slashes [?],
>parentheses...) from a keyboard. Totally one uses about 97 characters,
>that is practially all that exist. A really picky job that takes time
>and demands great patience but which becomes really beautiful when
>it is done.
>
>> ASCII-konsten har sitt ursprung i en konstform som kallas "art typing"
>> och frn brjan satt man och mlade sina konstverk p vanliga
>> skrivmaskiner. Konstens egentlige "uppfinnare" heter Christopher
>> Latham Sholes, mannen som uppfann urskrivmaskinen 1867. ASCII-konsten
>> har allts haft 131 r p sig att utvecklas.
>>
>
>The ASCII art originates from an art form called "art typing" and from
>the beginning one sat and painted great works of art on ordinairy
>typewriters. The real "inventor" of the art is called Christopher
>Latham Sholes, the man who invented the typewriter in 1867. Thus ASCII
>art has had 131 years to evolve.
>
>> Det tidigaste exemplet p art typing gjordes av en koreansk konstnr,
>> Gwang Hyuk Lee, som mitt under brinnande Koreakrig (omkring 1950) tog
>> hela texten ur Bibelns Johannesevangelium och skapade en stor bild av
>> Jesus. Dessvrre sg inte nordkoreanska kommunister med blida gon p
>> nyskapande konst, s Gwang Hyuk Lee ddades fr det han gjort.
>>
>
>The earliest example of art typing was made by a Korean artist, Gwang
>Hyuk Lee, who right in the middle of an ongoing war in Korea (around
>1950) took the whole text of the [?] from the Bible and created a big
>picture of Jesus. Unfortunately North Korean communists didn't like
>creative art, so Gwang Hyuk Lee was killed for what he had done.
>
>> Spanjoren Guillermo Mendana Olivera hade Lee som frebild och satt i
>> brjan av 60-talet, i Leon i Spanien, och gjorde stortartad
>> teckenkonst med bara ett ftal olika tecken: x, o, kommatecken och
>> mellanslag. Olivera var stenograf p dagarna och msterlig
>> ASCII-konstnr p ntterna.
>>
>
>The Spaniard Guillermo Mendana Olivera had Lee as a role model when he
>sat in Leon in Spain in the beginning of the 60's and made great
>character art with just a few different characters: x, o, comma and
>space. Olivera was a stenographer during the days and a master ASCII
>artist during the nights.
>
>
>from: http://www.drrling.se/nr12/ascii_art/2.html
>>
>> Joan Starks guide till ASCII-skapande:
>>
>
>Joan Stark's guide to making ASCII:
>
>> - Gr sm, enkla bilder till att brja med. ga-nsa-mun.
>>
>
>- Make small, simple pictures to start with. Eye-nose-mouth.
>
>> - Gr alltid en modell eller skiss av den bild du tnkt dig.
>>
>
>- Always make a model or a sketch of the picture you have in mind.
>
>> - Stressa inte. ASCII-konst r tids- och tlamodskrvande till max.
>>
>
>- Don't stress. ASCII art demands huge amounts of time and patience.
>
>> - Kontrollera proportioner.
>>
>
>- Check the proportions.
>
>> - Lita till ditt gonmtt. Om du sjlv inte kan se att det r en
>> knguru, kan ingen annan det heller.
>>
>
>- Trust your eye measure [?]. If you can't see that it's a kangaroo,
>then nobody else will either.
>
>> - Lmna plats fr betraktarens fantasi, men gr inte bilderna
>> plottriga med massor av smdetaljer som frstr helhetsintrycket. Ju
>> renare, desto bttre.
>>
>
>- Leave space for the imagination of the viewer [?], but don't make
>the images too cluttered with lots of little details that destroy the
>total impression. The cleaner, the better.
>
>> - Studera tecknade figurer i serietidningar. Profilbilder r lttast.
>>
>
>- Study cartoon characters in cartoon magazines. Pictures in profile
>are the easiest.
>
>> - Ska du skicka in din ASCII-bild till en newsgroup eller liknande, s
>> se till att signera ditt verk. Interaktiva konststlder och plagiat
>> finns det gott om.
>>
>
>- If you intend to send your ASCII picture to a newsgroup or something
>like that, make sure you sign your work. There are plenty of
>interactive art thefts and plagiarism.
>
>> - Kolla hur andra ASCII-konstnrer gr sina bilder.
>>
>
>- See how other ASCII artists make their pictures.
>
>>
>> Joan Starks galleri med ASCII-konst finns att hitta hr
>>
>
>Joan Stark's ASCII art gallery can be found here:
>http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373
>
>
>from: http://www.drrling.se/nr12/ascii_art/2.html
>>
>>
>> Fyrabarnsmamman Joan Stark frn Mississippi i USA r en av mnga som
>> lagt ut sin konst p ntet. P knappt tv r har hon byggt upp ett
>> stort arkiv ASCII-bilder som frestller allt frn seriefigurer,
>> husdjur, byggnader och hennes familj.
>
>Mother of four children, Joan Stark from Mississippi in USA is one of
>many who have put out their art on the net. In less than two years she
>has built a large archive of ASCII images of everything from cartoon
>characters, pets, buildings and her family.
>
>> - Det var mest av en slump jag fick upp gonen fr den hr
>> konstformen, berttar Joan. Jag fick ett mail med en liten bild p
>> en cykel. D visste jag inte ens vad bilderna kallades, men jag blev
>> fullstndigt sld p det, och frstod att folk mste ha grava
>> sysselsttningsproblem som hller p med det.
>
>- It was mostly by coincidence that I noticed this art form, joan
>tells me. I got an email with a little picture of a bike. Back then I
>didn't even know what the pictures were called, but I became totally
>addicted to it, and realised that people must suffer from serious lack
>of something sensible to occupy themselves with in order to do this.
>
>> - Kort drp brjade jag skte jag efter fler bilder p Yahoo och
>> hittade ett stlle dr man kunde skicka in sina egna ASCII-bilder. Och
>> i juli 1996 brjade  jag data ihop egna teckningar.
>>
>
>- Shortly after I started to look for more pictures on Yahoo and found
>a place where one could send in one's own ASCII images. And in July
>1996 I started to make pictures of my own.
>
>> Vad r det som r s fascinerande med ASCII?
>>
>> - Dels r de roligare och smidigare att f och skicka per mail n
>> vanliga pics. ASCII r ju text och tar drfr mindre plats.
>> - Dels finns det bara 94 tecken att jobba med (97 i Sverige med ,
>> och ) och det r allt.
>> - Och s ligger det en fet utmaning i att anvnda ett tangentbord som
>> palett och skrm som duk.
>>
>
>What is it that is so fascinating about ASCII?
>
>- Partly they are more fun and leaner to get and send in email than
>ordinairy pics. ASCII is text and because of this it takes less room.
>- Partly there is only 94 characters to work with (97 in Sweden with
>,  and  [NOT!]) and that is all.
>- And then there is a fat challenge in using a keyboard as a palette
>and a screen as a canvas.
>
>> Det finns olika stt att skapa ASCII-konst p.  Ett stt r att
>> anvnda program som modellerar bilderna, till exempel Gifscii. Men det
>> r inget Joan Stark rekommenderar, bilderna blir kantiga och fula:
>>
>
>There are different ways to make ASCII art. One way is to use programs
>that design the images, for example Gifscii
>( http://www.io360.com/v2/yo/asciiworld/gs.html ). But that is nothing
>Joan Stark recommends, the pictures become square and ugly:
>
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>>                  :                                   :
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>>                          YRVI+==;;;;;:,,,,,,,:::::::
>>
>>
>>
>> "Solid-style" r en annan mjlighet - men rtt svr. Den anvnds mest
>> till att skugga och konturera bilderna:
>>
>
>"Solid style" is another possibility - but quite difficult. It is
>mostly used to shade and construct the images:
>
>>
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>>       `'                  `OObNNNNNdOO'                   `'
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>>
>> "Line-style" r precis vad det lter som; ASCII-konst med enbart raka
>> streck:
>
>"Line style" is just what it sounds like; ASCII art with only straight
>lines:
>
>>
>>                                                    (|
>>                                                     ||_
>>                                                    =///`\
>>                               (\                   \\\) |
>>                              __\\                   `|~~|
>>                             (((<_|            ____   |  |
>>                              `-__/\         /~    ~\|   |
>>                                 \  ~-_     |--|     |___|
>>                                  `\   ~-_  |_/     /--__/
>>                                    `\/ / ~-_\___--/    /
>>                                      `-_    ~/   /    /
>>                                         ~-_ /   |   _/
>>                                            |         |
>>                                           |~~~~~-----|
>>                                           |___----~~~/
>>                _-~~\                       \_       /
>>              /(_|_-~                       |       /
>>            /   /~==[]\     ____-------_    |_____--|   ______________
>>          /    (_ //(\0)~~~~    YAMAHA  ~\ /_-       \/'         ___/ ~~~~/
>>         (|      ~~--__                   |/         )_____---~~~    YZF  \
>>          \.      ___  ~~--__ ____        /        _-/              __--~~'
>>            ~\    \\\\       ~~-_ ~-____ /      _-~~          __--~~___
>>       _ ----/ \    \\\\         ~-_    /---__-~        __--~~----~~_  ]=
>>    _-~ ___ / /__\   ~~~            ~-_ ( )-~ ~-_~~~/~~~ _-~         ~-_
>>   /-~~~_-|/ /    ~\                  _) ~-_     \ /~~~~~---__-----_    \
>>  ;    / \/_//`\    \           __--~~/_   \~-_ _-\ ~~~~~~~~~~~~-/_/\    .
>>  |   | \((*))/ |   |\    __--~~     /o \   `\ ~-  `\----_____( 0) ) |   |
>>  |    \  |~|  /    | )-~~           \ 0 )    |/' _-~/~--------| |~ /    ,
>>   \    ~-----~    / /                ~~~~~~~~/_/O_/'   \    ~-----~    /
>>    ~-_         _-~ `---------------------------'        `-_         _-~
>>       ~ ----- ~                                            ~ ----- ~  -TX
>>
>
>
>from: http://www.drrling.se/nr12/ascii_art/3.html
>
>> ASCII-art siter:
>>
>
>ASCII art sites:
>
>> Best of Ascii pics
>>
>
>http://wigwam.askoyv.no/Ascii/1-l/bestoftheasciipics.txt
>
>> Christopher Johnsons ASCII
>> Art Collection
>>
>
>http://www.chris.com/ascii_art_menu.html
>
>> Wicked ASCII Art
>> Med ASCII Awards!
>>
>
>http://wigwam.askoyv.no/Ascii/
>
>> Strawberry Jamms ASCII
>> Artwork Collection
>>
>
>http://www.jamm.com/asciiart/ascii.html
>
>> ASCII kor
>>
>
>http://ortech-engr.com/pecans/cows.html
>
>> Beavis & Butthead
>>
>
>http://www.digitalis.net/%7Emesser/bbhindex.html
>
>>
>> - Man mste ha en modell att jobba utifrn, sger Joan. Annars r det
>> jttesvrt.
>> - Egentligen handlar det bara om att veta hur och nr man ska anvnda
>> tecken och se proportioner. Vill man gra en ASCII-katt br man ha
>> koll p proportionerna s det inte ser ut som en isbjrn eller insekt
>> nr du r klar med den.
>> - Allra bst r det att brja med krnan; om du ska gra en bjrn s
>> brjar du med nosen och jobbar dig utt kanterna.
>> - gonen brukar vara lttast att brja med: 66, 99, ee, aa, oo, db, qp
>> r bra att anvnda dr.
>> - Kurvor och sm detaljer blir bst med apostrofer, cediljer eller
>> citattecken. Drefter brukar jag "fylla" bilder med kolon och
>> semikolon.
>>
>
>- One has to have a model to work from, says Joan. Otherwise it is
>really difficult.
>- It's really only about knowing how and hwen to use characters and
>see proportions. If you want to make an ASCII cat you should make sure
>to keep control over the proportions so that it doesn't end up looking
>like a polar bear or an insekt when you're done with it.
>- The best thing is to start with the core; if you are going to make a
>bear you start with the nose and work your way towards the edges.
>- The eyes are usually the easiest to start with: 66, 99, ee, aa, oo,
>db, qp are good to use there.
>- Curves and little details are best with apostrophes, [ ??? ], or
>quotes. After that I usually "fill" pictures with colons and
>semicolons.
>
>> That's it. De tangenter som fr jobba mest nr man gr ASCII-konst r
>> backspace (sudd) och mellanslagstangenten.
>>
>
>That's it. The keys that get to work most when you make ASCII art is
>the backspace (eraser) and space bar.
>
>> - Men det gr inte gra bilder p kommando. Jag mste ha lugn och ro,
>> gott om tid och mycket inspiration. Bra dagar tar det inte mer n en
>> halvtimme, sger Joan.
>> - De svraste och mest tidskrvande bilderna r de strsta, uppt 20
>> rader hga, och de minsta. D kan det ta dagar, veckor.
>> - En stor bild r svr fr att det r mnga tecken som mste fungera
>> tillsammans, ungefr som en roman. En liten bild mste uttrycka
>> vldigt mnga detaljer med f tecken, som poesi.
>>
>
>- But one can't make pictures on command. I have to have peace and
>quiet, plenty of time and loads of inspiration. Good days it doesn't
>take more than half an hour, say Joan.
>- The most difficult and most time demanding pictures are the biggest,
>upwards [?] 20 lines high, and the smallest. Then it can take days,
>weeks.
>- A big picture is hard because there are so many characters that have
>to work together, a bit like a novel. A small picture has to express
>really many details with just a few characters, like poetry.
>
>> Joan Stark har sjlv frebilder bland ASCII-konstnrerna.
>> - Knnetecknande fr en bra ASCII-konstnr att han fr den som loggat
>> in p hans galleri att sga "wow". S knner jag nr jag ser bilder av
>> Rowan Crawford, Felix Lee och Daniel Au.
>> - Riktiga perfektionister, allihopa. Det mste man vara. Slarvar man
>> blir det bara skit och d fr man gra allt frn brjan igen.
>>
>
>Joan Stark herself has many role models among the ASCII artists.
>- What distiguishes a good ASCII artist is that he gets the person who
>logs in to his gallery to say "wow". That's how I feel when I see
>pictures by
>Rowan Crawford ( http://www.afn.org/%7Eafn39695/crawford.htm ),
>Felix Lee ( http://www.teleport.com/%7Eflee/home.shtml ) and
>Daniel Au ( http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/%7Edcau/newdcau.htm ).
>- Real perfectionists, all of them. You have to be. If you are
>careless it just becomes shit and you have to startall over from the
>beginning again.
>
>> Och ASCII-konsten har kommit till Internet fr att stanna. tminstone
>> enligt Joan Stark:
>> - Om sg tre, fyra r tror jag ASCII-konsten r mer knd n nu. Folk
>> skickar dem redan nu p kul med e-mail eller anvnder dem p
>> hemsidor. Men ASCII-konsten kommer aldrig kunna erstta vanliga gif-
>> eller jpeg-bilder. Den kommer bara att finnas dr p kul.
>>
>
>And ASCII art has come to the Internet to stay. At least according to
>Joan Stark:
>- In say three, four years I think that ASCII art will be better known
>that it is now. People already send them for fun in email or use them
>on homepages. But ASCII art will never be able to replace ordinairy
>gif or jpeg images. It will just be there for fun.
>
>> Joan Stark tror ocks att ASCII fr en massa "junkies", precis som
>> till exempel MUD-spelen ftt.
>> - Man kan bli riktigt fast p det hr. Hg. Jag har drmt i ASCII
>> flera gnger och det var verkligen helsjukt. ASCII-konst kan verkligen
>> gra skumma saker med din hjrna.
>>
>
>Joan Stark also believes that ASCII art will have lots of "junkies",
>just like for example the MUD games have got.
>- You can get really hooked on this. High. I have dreamed in ASCII
>several times and it was really totally sick. ASCII art can really do
>weird things to your brain.
>
>> I Sverige finns det inga ASCII-konstnrer, n. Hr tror vi att ASCII
>> r ngot fr datanrdar, inte att det r en seris konstform. Mrten
>> Castenfors r konstkritiker p Svenska Dagbladet, han tror dremot att
>> ASCII-konsten har en framtid.
>> - All konst som r bra eller som gr ngot bra mste sjlvklart
>> betraktas som seris konst. Och all seris konst har en framtid, menar
>> han.
>>
>
>There are no ASCII artists in Sweden, yet [ :-D ]. Here we think that
>ASCII is something for computer nerds, not that it is a serious art
>form. Mrten Castenfors is an art critic for Svenska Dagbladed [A
>Swedish newspaper], he on the other hand thinks that ASCII art has a
>future.
>- All art that is good or that does something good must of course be
>looked upon as serious art. And all serious art has a future, he says.
>
>> S fr den som vill bli pionjr inom svensk ASCII-konst r det fritt
>> fram. Datanrd eller ej.
>>
>
>So for anybody who wants to become a pioneer in Swedish ASCII art just
>go for it. Computer nerd or not.
>
>>
>> /Dan Linder
>>
>
>
>
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Jonathon R. Oglesbee wrote:
> 
> I cain't read this, as it is not in American.
> 

And I can't read it either, as it is not in Swedish.  :(

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Spunk1111 <spu...@aol.com> ASCII art 3 Feb 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
>From: Veronica Karlsson <dre...@on.spammer>
>Date: Wed, Jan 21, 1998 04:02 EST
>Message-id: <34C...@on.spammer>

Thank you Veronica for the translation from Swedish
to English...  ( http://www.drrling.se/nr12/ascii_art/ )
I appreciate the time it took to do the translation!  :)
It's amusing to see what results when English is
translated to Swedish and back again...  I surprised
myself with some of the things that I said!  :)

I've put your translation, along with my comments, at:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373/articles.htm#drrling

A few minor technicalities-- like me living in Ohio, not
Mississippi -- but some other things that I don't want
people to be confused about... like ASCII doing sick
things to one's mind... and solid-style being" ugly"... and
taking weeks to complete an ASCII picture.... and
profiles being easiest to draw... and people suffering
from a serious lack of something sensible to occupy
their time with!  heehee-  

-joan
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