Re: ASCII ART article- in Swedish...

I cain't read this, as it is not in American.



Veronica Karlsson wrote in message <34C...@on.spammer>...
>Spunk1111 wrote:
>>
>> I just want to share with you a site which has an article about
>> ASCII art-- those of you who can read Swedish are in luck...
>
>:)
>
>> Darling Magazine at: http://www.drrling.se/nr12/ascii_art/
>>
>> To be honest, I can only pick out bits and pieces... but that's
>> only because I answered some questions about ASCII art for
>> the journalist.  I knew what he asked me...  Those of you who
>> read it, let me know if the English-->Swedish interpretation of
>> ASCII art turned out... (do I sound like I know what I'm talking
>> about?)
>>
>
>That sounds like a challenge...
>
>> Anyhow, even if you can't read Swedish, there is a lot of ASCII
>> art at the site-- not just within the ASCII art article either...
>>
>
>Really? Where? (I didn't find any)
>
>> -joan
>> --
>> jgs  (\/)   .-.  .-.
>>       \/   ((`-)(-`))                                   (\/)
>>             \\    //      (\/)     I LOVE ASCII ART!     \/
>>              \\  //        \/
>>       .="""=._))((_.="""=.
>>      /  .,   .'  '.   ,.  \            joan stark
>>     /__(,_.-'      '-._,)__\      <spu...@juno.com>
>>    `    /|             |\   `                               (\/)
>>        /_|__         __|_\                                   \/
>>  (\/)    | `))     ((` |           ASCII ART GALLERY:
>>   \/     |             |   http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373/
>>         -"==         =="-
>
>
>Ok, here's a quick translation of the article:
>
>
>[Comments from me (VK) look like this. I have added URLs where there
>were links in the pages]
>
>from: http://www.drrling.se/nr12/ascii_art/
>>
>>            _____  _____ _____ _____                _
>>     /\    / ____|/ ____|_   _|_   _|              | |
>>    /  \  | (___ | |      | |   | |______ __ _ _ __| |_
>>   / /\ \  \___ \| |      | |   | |______/ _` | '__| __|
>>  / ____ \ ____) | |____ _| |_ _| |_    | (_| | |  | |_
>> /_/    \_\_____/ \_____|_____|_____|    \__,_|_|   \__|
>>
>>                                  - en bild av tusen ord
>>
>>                                  av Dan Linder
>>
>
>ASCII art - one picture of a thousand words
>
>by Dan Linder ( Dan...@rmi-berghs.se )
>
>>
>> r du bra p att gra en bild av Bob Dylan, Kakmonstret, din katt
>> eller Eiffeltornet med hjlp av ngra parenteser, ett par apostrofer
>> och ngra bokstver? D kan du bli ASCII-konstnr nr du blir
>> stor. Det som frr betecknades som slitsamt datanrderi har blivit en
>> egen konstform p Internet.
>>
>
>Are you good at making a picture of Bob Dylan, the Cookie Monster [?],
>your cat or the Eiffel Tower with the aid of a few parentheses, a
>couple of apostrophes and a few letters? Then you can become an ASCII-
>artist when you grow up. What used to be considered hard work for
>computer nerds has become an art from of its own on the Internet.
>
>> ASCII-art (uttalas asski) r en frkortning av American Standard Code
>> for Information Interchange. Med andra ord r det bilder som skapas av
>> tecken (siffror, bokstver, snedstreck, parenteser...) frn ett
>> tangentbord. Totalt anvnder man omkring 97 tecken, det vill sga i
>> stort sett alla som finns. Ett riktigt petjobb som tar tid och krver
>> stort tlamod men som blir riktigt vackert nr det r klart.
>>
>
>ASCII art (pronounced asski [that makes sense in Swedish]) is short
>for American Standard Code for Information Interchange. In other words
>it is pictures created of characters (digits, letters, slashes [?],
>parentheses...) from a keyboard. Totally one uses about 97 characters,
>that is practially all that exist. A really picky job that takes time
>and demands great patience but which becomes really beautiful when
>it is done.
>
>> ASCII-konsten har sitt ursprung i en konstform som kallas "art typing"
>> och frn brjan satt man och mlade sina konstverk p vanliga
>> skrivmaskiner. Konstens egentlige "uppfinnare" heter Christopher
>> Latham Sholes, mannen som uppfann urskrivmaskinen 1867. ASCII-konsten
>> har allts haft 131 r p sig att utvecklas.
>>
>
>The ASCII art originates from an art form called "art typing" and from
>the beginning one sat and painted great works of art on ordinairy
>typewriters. The real "inventor" of the art is called Christopher
>Latham Sholes, the man who invented the typewriter in 1867. Thus ASCII
>art has had 131 years to evolve.
>
>> Det tidigaste exemplet p art typing gjordes av en koreansk konstnr,
>> Gwang Hyuk Lee, som mitt under brinnande Koreakrig (omkring 1950) tog
>> hela texten ur Bibelns Johannesevangelium och skapade en stor bild av
>> Jesus. Dessvrre sg inte nordkoreanska kommunister med blida gon p
>> nyskapande konst, s Gwang Hyuk Lee ddades fr det han gjort.
>>
>
>The earliest example of art typing was made by a Korean artist, Gwang
>Hyuk Lee, who right in the middle of an ongoing war in Korea (around
>1950) took the whole text of the [?] from the Bible and created a big
>picture of Jesus. Unfortunately North Korean communists didn't like
>creative art, so Gwang Hyuk Lee was killed for what he had done.
>
>> Spanjoren Guillermo Mendana Olivera hade Lee som frebild och satt i
>> brjan av 60-talet, i Leon i Spanien, och gjorde stortartad
>> teckenkonst med bara ett ftal olika tecken: x, o, kommatecken och
>> mellanslag. Olivera var stenograf p dagarna och msterlig
>> ASCII-konstnr p ntterna.
>>
>
>The Spaniard Guillermo Mendana Olivera had Lee as a role model when he
>sat in Leon in Spain in the beginning of the 60's and made great
>character art with just a few different characters: x, o, comma and
>space. Olivera was a stenographer during the days and a master ASCII
>artist during the nights.
>
>
>from: http://www.drrling.se/nr12/ascii_art/2.html
>>
>> Joan Starks guide till ASCII-skapande:
>>
>
>Joan Stark's guide to making ASCII:
>
>> - Gr sm, enkla bilder till att brja med. ga-nsa-mun.
>>
>
>- Make small, simple pictures to start with. Eye-nose-mouth.
>
>> - Gr alltid en modell eller skiss av den bild du tnkt dig.
>>
>
>- Always make a model or a sketch of the picture you have in mind.
>
>> - Stressa inte. ASCII-konst r tids- och tlamodskrvande till max.
>>
>
>- Don't stress. ASCII art demands huge amounts of time and patience.
>
>> - Kontrollera proportioner.
>>
>
>- Check the proportions.
>
>> - Lita till ditt gonmtt. Om du sjlv inte kan se att det r en
>> knguru, kan ingen annan det heller.
>>
>
>- Trust your eye measure [?]. If you can't see that it's a kangaroo,
>then nobody else will either.
>
>> - Lmna plats fr betraktarens fantasi, men gr inte bilderna
>> plottriga med massor av smdetaljer som frstr helhetsintrycket. Ju
>> renare, desto bttre.
>>
>
>- Leave space for the imagination of the viewer [?], but don't make
>the images too cluttered with lots of little details that destroy the
>total impression. The cleaner, the better.
>
>> - Studera tecknade figurer i serietidningar. Profilbilder r lttast.
>>
>
>- Study cartoon characters in cartoon magazines. Pictures in profile
>are the easiest.
>
>> - Ska du skicka in din ASCII-bild till en newsgroup eller liknande, s
>> se till att signera ditt verk. Interaktiva konststlder och plagiat
>> finns det gott om.
>>
>
>- If you intend to send your ASCII picture to a newsgroup or something
>like that, make sure you sign your work. There are plenty of
>interactive art thefts and plagiarism.
>
>> - Kolla hur andra ASCII-konstnrer gr sina bilder.
>>
>
>- See how other ASCII artists make their pictures.
>
>>
>> Joan Starks galleri med ASCII-konst finns att hitta hr
>>
>
>Joan Stark's ASCII art gallery can be found here:
>http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373
>
>
>from: http://www.drrling.se/nr12/ascii_art/2.html
>>
>>
>> Fyrabarnsmamman Joan Stark frn Mississippi i USA r en av mnga som
>> lagt ut sin konst p ntet. P knappt tv r har hon byggt upp ett
>> stort arkiv ASCII-bilder som frestller allt frn seriefigurer,
>> husdjur, byggnader och hennes familj.
>
>Mother of four children, Joan Stark from Mississippi in USA is one of
>many who have put out their art on the net. In less than two years she
>has built a large archive of ASCII images of everything from cartoon
>characters, pets, buildings and her family.
>
>> - Det var mest av en slump jag fick upp gonen fr den hr
>> konstformen, berttar Joan. Jag fick ett mail med en liten bild p
>> en cykel. D visste jag inte ens vad bilderna kallades, men jag blev
>> fullstndigt sld p det, och frstod att folk mste ha grava
>> sysselsttningsproblem som hller p med det.
>
>- It was mostly by coincidence that I noticed this art form, joan
>tells me. I got an email with a little picture of a bike. Back then I
>didn't even know what the pictures were called, but I became totally
>addicted to it, and realised that people must suffer from serious lack
>of something sensible to occupy themselves with in order to do this.
>
>> - Kort drp brjade jag skte jag efter fler bilder p Yahoo och
>> hittade ett stlle dr man kunde skicka in sina egna ASCII-bilder. Och
>> i juli 1996 brjade  jag data ihop egna teckningar.
>>
>
>- Shortly after I started to look for more pictures on Yahoo and found
>a place where one could send in one's own ASCII images. And in July
>1996 I started to make pictures of my own.
>
>> Vad r det som r s fascinerande med ASCII?
>>
>> - Dels r de roligare och smidigare att f och skicka per mail n
>> vanliga pics. ASCII r ju text och tar drfr mindre plats.
>> - Dels finns det bara 94 tecken att jobba med (97 i Sverige med ,
>> och ) och det r allt.
>> - Och s ligger det en fet utmaning i att anvnda ett tangentbord som
>> palett och skrm som duk.
>>
>
>What is it that is so fascinating about ASCII?
>
>- Partly they are more fun and leaner to get and send in email than
>ordinairy pics. ASCII is text and because of this it takes less room.
>- Partly there is only 94 characters to work with (97 in Sweden with
>,  and  [NOT!]) and that is all.
>- And then there is a fat challenge in using a keyboard as a palette
>and a screen as a canvas.
>
>> Det finns olika stt att skapa ASCII-konst p.  Ett stt r att
>> anvnda program som modellerar bilderna, till exempel Gifscii. Men det
>> r inget Joan Stark rekommenderar, bilderna blir kantiga och fula:
>>
>
>There are different ways to make ASCII art. One way is to use programs
>that design the images, for example Gifscii
>( http://www.io360.com/v2/yo/asciiworld/gs.html ). But that is nothing
>Joan Stark recommends, the pictures become square and ugly:
>
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>>
>>
>> "Solid-style" r en annan mjlighet - men rtt svr. Den anvnds mest
>> till att skugga och konturera bilderna:
>>
>
>"Solid style" is another possibility - but quite difficult. It is
>mostly used to shade and construct the images:
>
>>
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>>
>> "Line-style" r precis vad det lter som; ASCII-konst med enbart raka
>> streck:
>
>"Line style" is just what it sounds like; ASCII art with only straight
>lines:
>
>>
>>                                                    (|
>>                                                     ||_
>>                                                    =///`\
>>                               (\                   \\\) |
>>                              __\\                   `|~~|
>>                             (((<_|            ____   |  |
>>                              `-__/\         /~    ~\|   |
>>                                 \  ~-_     |--|     |___|
>>                                  `\   ~-_  |_/     /--__/
>>                                    `\/ / ~-_\___--/    /
>>                                      `-_    ~/   /    /
>>                                         ~-_ /   |   _/
>>                                            |         |
>>                                           |~~~~~-----|
>>                                           |___----~~~/
>>                _-~~\                       \_       /
>>              /(_|_-~                       |       /
>>            /   /~==[]\     ____-------_    |_____--|   ______________
>>          /    (_ //(\0)~~~~    YAMAHA  ~\ /_-       \/'         ___/ ~~~~/
>>         (|      ~~--__                   |/         )_____---~~~    YZF  \
>>          \.      ___  ~~--__ ____        /        _-/              __--~~'
>>            ~\    \\\\       ~~-_ ~-____ /      _-~~          __--~~___
>>       _ ----/ \    \\\\         ~-_    /---__-~        __--~~----~~_  ]=
>>    _-~ ___ / /__\   ~~~            ~-_ ( )-~ ~-_~~~/~~~ _-~         ~-_
>>   /-~~~_-|/ /    ~\                  _) ~-_     \ /~~~~~---__-----_    \
>>  ;    / \/_//`\    \           __--~~/_   \~-_ _-\ ~~~~~~~~~~~~-/_/\    .
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>>       ~ ----- ~                                            ~ ----- ~  -TX
>>
>
>
>from: http://www.drrling.se/nr12/ascii_art/3.html
>
>> ASCII-art siter:
>>
>
>ASCII art sites:
>
>> Best of Ascii pics
>>
>
>http://wigwam.askoyv.no/Ascii/1-l/bestoftheasciipics.txt
>
>> Christopher Johnsons ASCII
>> Art Collection
>>
>
>http://www.chris.com/ascii_art_menu.html
>
>> Wicked ASCII Art
>> Med ASCII Awards!
>>
>
>http://wigwam.askoyv.no/Ascii/
>
>> Strawberry Jamms ASCII
>> Artwork Collection
>>
>
>http://www.jamm.com/asciiart/ascii.html
>
>> ASCII kor
>>
>
>http://ortech-engr.com/pecans/cows.html
>
>> Beavis & Butthead
>>
>
>http://www.digitalis.net/%7Emesser/bbhindex.html
>
>>
>> - Man mste ha en modell att jobba utifrn, sger Joan. Annars r det
>> jttesvrt.
>> - Egentligen handlar det bara om att veta hur och nr man ska anvnda
>> tecken och se proportioner. Vill man gra en ASCII-katt br man ha
>> koll p proportionerna s det inte ser ut som en isbjrn eller insekt
>> nr du r klar med den.
>> - Allra bst r det att brja med krnan; om du ska gra en bjrn s
>> brjar du med nosen och jobbar dig utt kanterna.
>> - gonen brukar vara lttast att brja med: 66, 99, ee, aa, oo, db, qp
>> r bra att anvnda dr.
>> - Kurvor och sm detaljer blir bst med apostrofer, cediljer eller
>> citattecken. Drefter brukar jag "fylla" bilder med kolon och
>> semikolon.
>>
>
>- One has to have a model to work from, says Joan. Otherwise it is
>really difficult.
>- It's really only about knowing how and hwen to use characters and
>see proportions. If you want to make an ASCII cat you should make sure
>to keep control over the proportions so that it doesn't end up looking
>like a polar bear or an insekt when you're done with it.
>- The best thing is to start with the core; if you are going to make a
>bear you start with the nose and work your way towards the edges.
>- The eyes are usually the easiest to start with: 66, 99, ee, aa, oo,
>db, qp are good to use there.
>- Curves and little details are best with apostrophes, [ ??? ], or
>quotes. After that I usually "fill" pictures with colons and
>semicolons.
>
>> That's it. De tangenter som fr jobba mest nr man gr ASCII-konst r
>> backspace (sudd) och mellanslagstangenten.
>>
>
>That's it. The keys that get to work most when you make ASCII art is
>the backspace (eraser) and space bar.
>
>> - Men det gr inte gra bilder p kommando. Jag mste ha lugn och ro,
>> gott om tid och mycket inspiration. Bra dagar tar det inte mer n en
>> halvtimme, sger Joan.
>> - De svraste och mest tidskrvande bilderna r de strsta, uppt 20
>> rader hga, och de minsta. D kan det ta dagar, veckor.
>> - En stor bild r svr fr att det r mnga tecken som mste fungera
>> tillsammans, ungefr som en roman. En liten bild mste uttrycka
>> vldigt mnga detaljer med f tecken, som poesi.
>>
>
>- But one can't make pictures on command. I have to have peace and
>quiet, plenty of time and loads of inspiration. Good days it doesn't
>take more than half an hour, say Joan.
>- The most difficult and most time demanding pictures are the biggest,
>upwards [?] 20 lines high, and the smallest. Then it can take days,
>weeks.
>- A big picture is hard because there are so many characters that have
>to work together, a bit like a novel. A small picture has to express
>really many details with just a few characters, like poetry.
>
>> Joan Stark har sjlv frebilder bland ASCII-konstnrerna.
>> - Knnetecknande fr en bra ASCII-konstnr att han fr den som loggat
>> in p hans galleri att sga "wow". S knner jag nr jag ser bilder av
>> Rowan Crawford, Felix Lee och Daniel Au.
>> - Riktiga perfektionister, allihopa. Det mste man vara. Slarvar man
>> blir det bara skit och d fr man gra allt frn brjan igen.
>>
>
>Joan Stark herself has many role models among the ASCII artists.
>- What distiguishes a good ASCII artist is that he gets the person who
>logs in to his gallery to say "wow". That's how I feel when I see
>pictures by
>Rowan Crawford ( http://www.afn.org/%7Eafn39695/crawford.htm ),
>Felix Lee ( http://www.teleport.com/%7Eflee/home.shtml ) and
>Daniel Au ( http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/%7Edcau/newdcau.htm ).
>- Real perfectionists, all of them. You have to be. If you are
>careless it just becomes shit and you have to startall over from the
>beginning again.
>
>> Och ASCII-konsten har kommit till Internet fr att stanna. tminstone
>> enligt Joan Stark:
>> - Om sg tre, fyra r tror jag ASCII-konsten r mer knd n nu. Folk
>> skickar dem redan nu p kul med e-mail eller anvnder dem p
>> hemsidor. Men ASCII-konsten kommer aldrig kunna erstta vanliga gif-
>> eller jpeg-bilder. Den kommer bara att finnas dr p kul.
>>
>
>And ASCII art has come to the Internet to stay. At least according to
>Joan Stark:
>- In say three, four years I think that ASCII art will be better known
>that it is now. People already send them for fun in email or use them
>on homepages. But ASCII art will never be able to replace ordinairy
>gif or jpeg images. It will just be there for fun.
>
>> Joan Stark tror ocks att ASCII fr en massa "junkies", precis som
>> till exempel MUD-spelen ftt.
>> - Man kan bli riktigt fast p det hr. Hg. Jag har drmt i ASCII
>> flera gnger och det var verkligen helsjukt. ASCII-konst kan verkligen
>> gra skumma saker med din hjrna.
>>
>
>Joan Stark also believes that ASCII art will have lots of "junkies",
>just like for example the MUD games have got.
>- You can get really hooked on this. High. I have dreamed in ASCII
>several times and it was really totally sick. ASCII art can really do
>weird things to your brain.
>
>> I Sverige finns det inga ASCII-konstnrer, n. Hr tror vi att ASCII
>> r ngot fr datanrdar, inte att det r en seris konstform. Mrten
>> Castenfors r konstkritiker p Svenska Dagbladet, han tror dremot att
>> ASCII-konsten har en framtid.
>> - All konst som r bra eller som gr ngot bra mste sjlvklart
>> betraktas som seris konst. Och all seris konst har en framtid, menar
>> han.
>>
>
>There are no ASCII artists in Sweden, yet [ :-D ]. Here we think that
>ASCII is something for computer nerds, not that it is a serious art
>form. Mrten Castenfors is an art critic for Svenska Dagbladed [A
>Swedish newspaper], he on the other hand thinks that ASCII art has a
>future.
>- All art that is good or that does something good must of course be
>looked upon as serious art. And all serious art has a future, he says.
>
>> S fr den som vill bli pionjr inom svensk ASCII-konst r det fritt
>> fram. Datanrd eller ej.
>>
>
>So for anybody who wants to become a pioneer in Swedish ASCII art just
>go for it. Computer nerd or not.
>
>>
>> /Dan Linder
>>
>
>
>
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