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RE: Re: 3 line animal heads BY: war...@cybergal.com >> In Dutch "Lemurs" are called "lemuren" or "maki's". Die halfapen van >> Madagascar die met zwaaiende armen naar de lekkere hapjes van de >> cameraploeg komen gerend in EO-documentaires, weetjewel :) > >ik meen ze ook uit de apenheul te kennen. > >> PS What's a platypus?? And what does it look like in ASCII? >> mic > >een vogelbekdier (pictures in other postings) > > > >bart >-- >____________________________________________________________________ >To reply by email, change cybergal into cyberdude I take it Dutch is a bit different than German? ,sS$$Ss,. . �OhN dO� ` `'�S$$S�' Origin: The Kobran Imperium * 801-265-1299
John Doa #115-288 wrote: > I take it Dutch is a bit different than German? We speak Dutch in The Netherlands a.k.a. Holland. German is spoken in Germany. = Holland is small, on the left of Germany (big, east and west together now). = > = > ,sS$$Ss,. . > =FBOhN dO=8F > ` `'=FCS$$S=FC' > = What is this? Sorry I can't see. bart -- = ____________________________________________________________________ To reply by email, change cybergal into cyberdude
Eric wrote: > >I take it Dutch is a bit different than German? > > German is a Dutch dialect. > > Eric > (donning flame proof suit now ;-) :) No need. I always wanted to speak a dialect. Just wondering what all those Dutch people are doing here. Something wrong with the Dutch TV program lately? :) ( Andreas ( ) .___. ,-. __) NC + a:f \|/ //===\\ ,-' o `-!| .'+^+`. //=|_|=\\ ,-'---------`-. .'///|\\\`. //=======\\ | [+] [+] | .-------------. //////|\\\\\\ //|||'"`|||\\ | ___ | < huff, puff > /((|||^..|||))\ |||||.^ ||||| | | | // `--v----------' ((|||(oo)|||) |||||o) ||||| | |' | |..~~~O { ~vv' ASCII Dictionary : | - http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~freise >O< Alt.Ascii-Art FAQ : - http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~freise/ascii/faq.html
"John Doa #115-288" <kwa...@aros.net> wrote: > I take it Dutch is a bit different than German? Two bits to prove that the German language is a subset of Dutch ;) 1st: >>>In Dutch "Lemurs" are called "lemuren" or "maki's". Die halfapen van >>>Madagascar die met zwaaiende armen naar de lekkere hapjes van de >>>cameraploeg komen gerend in EO-documentaires, weetjewel :) >> In German "Lemurs" are called "Maki". Das sind die Halbaffen von Madagaskar, >> die herumfuchtelnd die Leckerbissen bewillkommen, die die Kameramaenner vom >> WDR ihn presentieren :) 2nd: <diagram of civilization flow> viking tribes : : : :__ /\:\ \ / :_/ [ hom...@ludens.org...>>>....+...._......>>... germanic tribes.....>> / :__ | [__/: |\ : |_| : : : : gaulish tribes -- mic >>Take one of the ff out to respond to proper email address<<
Kristian Andr=E9 Gallis wrote: = > Dutch often reminds of german in text, because of the common origin of > the languages, but when you hear it spoken, it is almost impossible to > draw connections between the languages. > = > Dutch is spoken in Dutchland, = ??? We call it The Netherlands (actually we call it Nederland, in dutch of course) It is often called Holland. > and the eastern half of Belgium. I think that is the TOP half of Belgium, known as Vlaanderen. > = > Kristian Andr=E9 -- = ____________________________________________________________________ To reply by email, change cybergal into cyberdude
John Doa #115-288 wrote: > > RE: Re: 3 line animal heads > BY: war...@cybergal.com > > >> In Dutch "Lemurs" are called "lemuren" or "maki's". Die halfapen van > >> Madagascar die met zwaaiende armen naar de lekkere hapjes van de > >> cameraploeg komen gerend in EO-documentaires, weetjewel :) > > > >ik meen ze ook uit de apenheul te kennen. > > > >> PS What's a platypus?? And what does it look like in ASCII? > >> mic > > > >een vogelbekdier (pictures in other postings) > > > > > > > >bart > >-- > > > I take it Dutch is a bit different than German? Dutch often reminds of german in text, because of the common origin of the languages, but when you hear it spoken, it is almost impossible to draw connections between the languages. Dutch is spoken in Dutchland, and the eastern half of Belgium. German is spoken in Germany, Austria, Switzerland (a dialect), Luxembourg (a dialect). The original language is named germanic. Germanic parted in three different families: North-germanic, west-germanic and east-germanic. East-germanic developed to gothic, but died(+). North-germanic became to west nordic (icelandic, foeroeian, norn(+) and norwegian) and east nordic (swedish and danish). West-germanic became english, dutch, low-german, german and frisian. Even because the close relation, it is hard to a Dutch to learn german compared to other languages. Norwegians, danes and swedes understand each other with some practice. It is easy for norwegians to learn icelandic (which is almost unchanged from oldnorse). Kristian Andr� -- ************************************* Deyr f�, * Kristian Andr� Gallis * deyja fr�ndr, * e-post: kri...@ifi.uio.no * deyr sjalfr it sama; * http://www.ifi.uio.no/~kristiag/ * en or�st�rr * NORGE/NORWAY/NORVEGE/NORWEGEN * deyr aldrigi ************************************* hveim er s�r g��an getr.
Eric wrote: > > Sharing a wisdom not previously known to readers of alt.ascii-art, > "Kristian Andr� Gallis" <kri...@ifi.uio.no> wrote: > > >John Doa #115-288 wrote: > >> I take it Dutch is a bit different than German? > > > >Dutch often reminds of german in text, because of the common origin of > >the languages, but when you hear it spoken, it is almost impossible to > >draw connections between the languages. > > When I was about seven, I had a German school friend who had just > immigrated from Germany. We had very little trouble understanding each > other, since the languages are so much alike. > Today I find that most of the Germans I deal with in my work have little > trouble understanding Dutch, even though they never studied the language. OK. My mistake. For me, which knows german it is very hard to understand spoken dutch. But written I gan get much of. > > >Dutch is spoken in Dutchland, > > Ugh! We're Dutchmen and we live in the Netherlands, also wrongly referred > to by most people as Holland. There's no such thing as 'Dutchland'. OK. In norwegian we call it Nederland, but somehow I thought it was "Dutchland" in english. In Norway we say that the danes speak with a hot potato in their mouth. It is also said that dutch is a throat-decease... > > >and the eastern half of Belgium. > > Make that the north/north-western part. The Dutch spoken there is better > known as Flemish. OK. I thought it was spoken in the half that is closest to the Netherlands. > > [snip-a-dee-doodah] > >West-germanic became english, dutch, low-german, german and frisian. > > Hmmm, interesting. What's low-german? Low-german (I don't know the proper english word, in german they call it platt-deutsch or nieder-deutsch, in norwegian lavtysk or nedertysk) is (or was) spoken in the lower laying parts of germany (the northern part). They only speak it in the northenmost part of Germany today, I have heard it spoken in Neum�nster. It is also the language spoken by the "Hansa" people, traders in Europe in the middle ages. The "normal" german is called high-german because it was the german language spoken in the higher elevated parts of Germany. > > >Even because the close relation, it is hard to a Dutch to learn german > >compared to other languages. > > It's hard to learn it *properly*, due to the elaborate German grammar. Many > Dutchmen have no trouble whatsoever making themselves perfectly > understandable to Germans by using a 'Germanised' version of Dutch. > > Eric > (genuine cloggy) Cloggy?? > -- > > _U___@_____.._------ > ./_ | | | | (__ .------.____ > _\___|___|___| | @ | | EK | > /.==\ _ _ _ \__|____|_|____________| > / o=o (_)(_)(_)----o=o - o=o o=o > > Sig added just to make the posting slightly on-topic ;-) If you are interested in languages, and differences: OLDNORSE (the language of the vikings). ************************** Deyr f�, deyja fr�ndr, deyr sjalfr it sama; en or�st�rr deyr aldrigi hveim er s�r g��an getr. ************************** ICELANDIC ************************** Deyr f�, deyja fr�ndur, deyr sj�lfur i� sama; en or�st�r deyr aldregi hveim er s�r g��an getur. ************************** NORWEGIAN ************************** D�yr fe; d�yr frendar; d�yr sj�lv det same. Men ordet om deg aldri d�yr vinn du eit gjetord gj�vt. ************************** SWEDISH ************************** F� d�r, fr�nder d�, �ven sj�lv skiljes du h�dan, men efterm�let aldrig d�r f�r envar, som ett gott har vunnit. ************************** ENGLISH ************************** Cattle die and kinsmen die, thyself too soon must die, but one thing never, I ween, will die,-- fair fame of one who has earned. or Cattle die, kindred die, yourself will die: But the story never dies of one who has done well This is taken from H�vam�l, more information at http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/havamal.html _ ____ _/___ _/_|___| _/____| O O O O O O Jeep Pick-up Wagon Kristian Andr� -- ************************************* Deyr f�, * Kristian Andr� Gallis * deyja fr�ndr, * e-post: kri...@ifi.uio.no * deyr sjalfr it sama; * http://www.ifi.uio.no/~kristiag/ * en or�st�rr * NORGE/NORWAY/NORVEGE/NORWEGEN * deyr aldrigi ************************************* hveim er s�r g��an getr.
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