Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 29 Jul 2002.
Nerd Boy, episode 257
alt.ascii-art
· 25 messages · 29 Jul 2002 - 31 Jul 2002
Actually, I'm glad
Mandy left! She was
so full of crap! Um..
` `,,,
OO ..'
.||. .||.
______ bb __________ || ____________
She's standing
right behind you.
`,,,
OO ..'
.||. -)).
______ bb _____________ /( _________
I knew that! I was joking!
You think I'm an idiot?! ,,,
`OO ..'
.||. .||.
______ bb __________________ || ____
OK, don't *laugh*
answer that. *point*
` ,,,
OO ~~'
.||. -||.
jg__________________________________________ dd __________________ ||
----
I'm getting tired of my own comments, so I won't comment on this one;
there's not much to say about it anyway.
--
OO Joaquim G�ndara | Official Nerd Boy site:
.||. | http://nerdboy.port5.com (UK)
bb jg | http://nerdboy.xepher.net (US)
Joaquim G�ndara wrote in message ... >Actually, I'm glad >Mandy left! She was > so full of crap! Um.. > ` `,,, > OO ..' > .||. .||. >______ bb __________ || ____________ > > > She's standing > right behind you. > `,,, > OO ..' > .||. -)). >______ bb _____________ /( _________ > > >I knew that! I was joking! >You think I'm an idiot?! ,,, > `OO ..' > .||. .||. >______ bb __________________ || ____ > > > OK, don't *laugh* > answer that. *point* > ` ,,, > OO ~~' > .||. -||. >jg__________________________________________ dd __________________ || > > > >---- >I'm getting tired of my own comments, so I won't comment on this one; >there's not much to say about it anyway. Except that it's very funny - I LOVE the way Fan Boys' eyes look when he's pointing and laughing (I'm reading in Lucida Console). I also like the way he sort of slinks back when he tells NB that Mandy is behind him... :o) -- Graeme Porter -^-_ _ / [_][_]_:_ Proud owner of a 1978 /| _||_ v Pearl Fiberglass Shell kit | / \ | -=/=\\____//=\=jaa "I married Miss right, I just didn't know her first name was 'Always'" -- Anonymous
"Anonymous" <gue...@anonymous.com> skrev i meddelandet news:ai2vtb$4rr$1...@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk > Joaquim G�ndara wrote in message ... 8< > >I'm getting tired of my own comments, so I won't comment on this one; > >there's not much to say about it anyway. > > Except that it's very funny - I LOVE the way Fan Boys' eyes look when he's > pointing and laughing (I'm reading in Lucida Console). After my initial shock had subsided (Lucida Console is -very- different from Courier New), I saw that Fan Boy's depressive stance works very well in that particular font. Cool. > I also like the way he sort of slinks back when he tells NB that Mandy is behind > him... Yeah, I'm pretty proud of that one myself. :) -- OO Joaquim G�ndara | Official Nerd Boy site: .||. | http://nerdboy.port5.com (UK) bb jg | http://nerdboy.xepher.net (US)
Joaquim G�ndara wrote in message ... >After my initial shock had subsided (Lucida Console is -very- different from >Courier New), I saw that Fan Boy's depressive stance works very well in that >particular font. Cool. Tried reading NerdBoy in Courier New - didn't like it; Lucida makes it look so much nicer (from Outlook Express, at least; it's obviously a very _different_ newsreader to most reasonably good ones) >> I also like the way he sort of slinks back when he tells NB that Mandy is behind >> him... > >Yeah, I'm pretty proud of that one myself. :) NerdBoy rules :o) -- Graeme Porter -^-_ _ / [_][_]_:_ Proud owner of a 1978 /| _||_ v Pearl Fiberglass Shell kit | / \ | -=/=\\____//=\=jaa "I married Miss right, I just didn't know her first name was 'Always'" -- Anonymous
"Anonymous" <gue...@anonymous.com> skrev i meddelandet news:ai36ff$8tf$1...@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk > Joaquim G�ndara wrote in message ... > > >After my initial shock had subsided (Lucida Console is -very- different from > >Courier New), I saw that Fan Boy's depressive stance works very well in that > >particular font. Cool. > > Tried reading NerdBoy in Courier New - didn't like it; Lucida makes it look so > much nicer (from Outlook Express, at least; it's obviously a very _different_ > newsreader to most reasonably good ones) Well, each to his own. :) I draw NB in JavE, which uses Courier New -- at least on my platform -- so I've just grown accustomed to seeing it that way. > >> I also like the way he sort of slinks back when he tells NB that Mandy is > >> behind him... > > > >Yeah, I'm pretty proud of that one myself. :) > > NerdBoy rules :o) :) -- OO Joaquim G�ndara | Official Nerd Boy site: .||. | http://nerdboy.port5.com (UK) bb jg | http://nerdboy.xepher.net (US)
In article <ai34uh$10nshl$1...@ID-102694.news.dfncis.de>, "Joaquim G�ndara" <cla...@lords.com> wrote: >"Anonymous" <gue...@anonymous.com> skrev i meddelandet news:ai2vtb$4rr$1...@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk >> Joaquim G�ndara wrote in message ... >8< >> >I'm getting tired of my own comments, so I won't comment on this one; >> >there's not much to say about it anyway. >> >> Except that it's very funny - I LOVE the way Fan Boys' eyes look when he's >> pointing and laughing (I'm reading in Lucida Console). [snip] >> I also like the way he sort of slinks back when he tells NB that Mandy is behind >> him... > >Yeah, I'm pretty proud of that one myself. :) Yes, very good action here. Unfortunately, for me, the timing is off. Suggestion: Move Fanboy over a little so that his "um" doesn't seem like part of Nerdboy's words. Add "She's standing right behind you." to the first frame. Leave the second frame wordless (but retain Fanboy's wonderful pointing gesture) and Nerdboy's freeze ,,, OO ..' .||. -)). ______ bb _____________ /( _________ Remove the extraneous *laugh* *point* from above Fanboy. His expression says it all OK, don't answer that. ` ,,, OO ~~' .||. -||. jg__________________________________________ dd __________________ || -- ____ llizard aka ejm llizard@idirec+.ca /| OO| | |.||| ,^^%--- oh oh... I believe that this is |_|_bb| _/>\ \ another instance of the converse of being --- == > \ "notoriously bad at explaining what I like" [_____] __>,^ ejm | | //| | ASCII-art & ASCII-animation www.crosswinds.net/~llizard/ascii-art/ If you are e-mailing and hit the reply button, add an "e" to "idirct"; If you are e-mailing and hit the reply button, add an "e" to "idirct"
"llizard" <lli...@NOPOLLUTIONwildmail.com> skrev i meddelandet news:v1g...@4ax.com > In article <ai34uh$10nshl$1...@ID-102694.news.dfncis.de>, "Joaquim > G�ndara" <cla...@lords.com> wrote: > >"Anonymous" <gue...@anonymous.com> skrev i meddelandet > >news:ai2vtb$4rr$1...@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk 8< > >> I also like the way he sort of slinks back when he tells NB that > >> Mandy is behind him... > > > >Yeah, I'm pretty proud of that one myself. :) > > Yes, very good action here. > > Unfortunately, for me, the timing is off. > > Suggestion: > > Move Fanboy over a little so that his "um" doesn't seem like part of > Nerdboy's words. It's meant to look as if he's interrupting him. However, I wasn't very satisfied with it either. > Add "She's standing right behind you." to the first frame. Leave the > second frame wordless (but retain Fanboy's wonderful pointing gesture) > and Nerdboy's freeze > > ,,, > OO ..' > .||. -)). > ______ bb _____________ /( _________ That seems odd. The point of the strip is that Nerd Boy tries to "think on his feet" and fails miserably. Your suggestion adds a pause... :\ > Remove the extraneous *laugh* *point* from above Fanboy. His > expression says it all > > OK, don't > answer that. > ` ,,, > OO ~~' > .||. -||. > jg__________________________________________ dd __________________ || But it was Popeye-stylee! > ____ > /| OO| > | |.||| ,^^%--- oh oh... I believe that this is > |_|_bb| _/>\ \ another instance of the converse of being > --- == > \ "notoriously bad at explaining what I like" > [_____] __>,^ > ejm | | //| | Probably. :) > If you are e-mailing and hit the reply button, add an "e" to "idirct"; > > If you are e-mailing and hit the reply button, add an "e" to "idirct" I heard you the first time. :P -- OO Joaquim G�ndara | Official Nerd Boy site: .||. | http://nerdboy.port5.com (UK) bb jg | http://nerdboy.xepher.net (US)
In article <ai3m0d$10idcf$1...@ID-102694.news.dfncis.de>, "Joaquim G�ndara" <cla...@lords.com> wrote: >"llizard" <lli...@NOPOLLUTIONwildmail.com> skrev i meddelandet >news:v1g...@4ax.com [snip] >> Unfortunately, for me, the timing is off. >> >> Suggestion: >> >> Move Fanboy over a little so that his "um" doesn't seem like part of >> Nerdboy's words. > >It's meant to look as if he's interrupting him. However, I wasn't very >satisfied with it either. Okay, how about this: Actually, I'm glad Mandy left! She was so full of crap! Um.. ` `,,, OO ..' .||. .||. ______ bb __________ || ____________ I realize that it doesn't look exactly like an interruption this way but at least there is no doubt that Fanboy is saying "Um" (When I first read the strip, I thought that Nerdboy had said "Um" because he was trying to sidestep from saying such terrible things about Mandy. However, I find I can't let go of wanting to see that brief moment of silent horror and still want you to: >> Add "She's standing right behind you." to the first frame. Leave the >> second frame wordless (but retain Fanboy's wonderful pointing gesture) >> and Nerdboy's freeze >> >> ,,, >> OO ..' >> .||. -)). >> ______ bb _____________ /( _________ > >That seems odd. The point of the strip is that Nerd Boy tries to "think >on his feet" and fails miserably. Your suggestion adds a pause... :\ Ah, this is where you can employ your voice-over with "a fraction of a split second later" over top of the otherwise wordless second frame. As you say, Nerdboy is failing miserably at thinking on his feet so for him, time would appear to stand still at that terrible (for him) moment. >> Remove the extraneous *laugh* *point* from above Fanboy. His >> expression says it all >> >> OK, don't >> answer that. >> ` ,,, >> OO ~~' >> .||. -||. >> jg__________________________________________ dd __________________ || > >But it was Popeye-stylee! I'm not familiar with that unsubtle style. Happily, it has been eons since I have seen a Popeye cartoon. [snip] >> If you are e-mailing and hit the reply button, add an "e" to "idirct"; >> >> If you are e-mailing and hit the reply button, add an "e" to "idirct" > >I heard you the first time. :P Rats!! How did I know that you would notice that senseless repetition? To make up for it, I'll leave it out in this post. >%^7^^^7^^ -- _____ llizard aka ejm llizard@idirec+.ca | `^^,| |-BAM+| ,^%--- |_^_v_| __<_ \ Is "Popeye stylee" sort of --- == >/ the same as Batman punches? [_ejm_] __>,^ | | //| | ASCII-art & ASCII-animation www.crosswinds.net/~llizard/ascii-art/
Joaquim G�ndara <cla...@lords.com> wrote > She's standing > right behind you. > `,,, > ..' > -)). >____________ /( _________ > > there's not much to say about it anyway. Wonderful expression of "watch it!" R@ineR
"Rainer Rosenthal" <r.r...@web.de> skrev i meddelandet news:ai3ocr$10s6kj$1...@ID-54909.news.dfncis.de > Joaquim G�ndara <cla...@lords.com> wrote > > > She's standing > > right behind you. > > `,,, > > ..' > > -)). > >____________ /( _________ > > > > there's not much to say about it anyway. > > Wonderful expression of "watch it!" Thanks. :) -- OO Joaquim G�ndara | Official Nerd Boy site: .||. | http://nerdboy.port5.com (UK) bb jg | http://nerdboy.xepher.net (US)
"llizard" <lli...@NOPOLLUTIONwildmail.com> skrev i meddelandet news:64n...@4ax.com > In article <ai3m0d$10idcf$1...@ID-102694.news.dfncis.de>, "Joaquim > G�ndara" <cla...@lords.com> wrote: > >"llizard" <lli...@NOPOLLUTIONwildmail.com> skrev i meddelandet > >news:v1g...@4ax.com 8< > >> Move Fanboy over a little so that his "um" doesn't seem like part of > >> Nerdboy's words. > > > >It's meant to look as if he's interrupting him. However, I wasn't very > >satisfied with it either. > > Okay, how about this: > > Actually, I'm glad Mandy left! > She was so full > of crap! Um.. > ` `,,, > OO ..' > .||. .||. > ______ bb __________ || ____________ > > I realize that it doesn't look exactly like an interruption this way > but at least there is no doubt that Fanboy is saying "Um" (When I > first read the strip, I thought that Nerdboy had said "Um" because he > was trying to sidestep from saying such terrible things about Mandy. Hmm... The text is sprawling out all over the place. The only solution I can see is to shorten NB's line or move FB. The first is very hard to do and still convey the same thing, and the other just looks odd; they're already a bit far apart for a conversation IMO. > However, I find I can't let go of wanting to see that brief moment of > silent horror and still want you to: > > >> Add "She's standing right behind you." to the first frame. Leave the > >> second frame wordless (but retain Fanboy's wonderful pointing gesture) > >> and Nerdboy's freeze > >> > >> ,,, > >> OO ..' > >> .||. -)). > >> ______ bb _____________ /( _________ > > > >That seems odd. The point of the strip is that Nerd Boy tries to "think > >on his feet" and fails miserably. Your suggestion adds a pause... :\ > > Ah, this is where you can employ your voice-over with "a fraction of a > split second later" over top of the otherwise wordless second frame. > As you say, Nerdboy is failing miserably at thinking on his feet so > for him, time would appear to stand still at that terrible (for him) > moment. I don't know... That's just not the pacing I want. The voice-over would only add to the perceived pause, and Fan Boy seems to be pointing _at_ Nerd Boy as if saying "he said it, not me". > >> Remove the extraneous *laugh* *point* from above Fanboy. His > >> expression says it all > >> > >> OK, don't > >> answer that. > >> ` ,,, > >> OO ~~' > >> .||. -||. > >> jg__________________________________________ dd __________________ || > > > >But it was Popeye-stylee! > > I'm not familiar with that unsubtle style. Happily, it has been eons > since I have seen a Popeye cartoon. It's not unsubtlety, they usually just repeat things all around the character. You're not making any sense Fan Boy. , OO *hm?* *huh?* .||. bb They seem to be using dialogue as sound effects. Similarly, I wanted to use actions as sound effects. Fan Boy literally gives off a *point! laugh!* sound. > >> If you are e-mailing and hit the reply button, add an "e" to "idirct"; > >> > >> If you are e-mailing and hit the reply button, add an "e" to "idirct" > > > >I heard you the first time. :P > > Rats!! How did I know that you would notice that senseless repetition? Because I'm an incorrigible perfectionist and nitpicker? > To make up for it, I'll leave it out in this post. >%^7^^^7^^ Yay! :) > _____ > | `^^,| > |-BAM+| ,^%--- > |_^_v_| __<_ \ Is "Popeye stylee" sort of > --- == >/ the same as Batman punches? > [_ejm_] __>,^ > | | //| | Well.. sort of. See above. -- OO Joaquim G�ndara | Official Nerd Boy site: .||. | http://nerdboy.port5.com (UK) bb jg | http://nerdboy.xepher.net (US)
> I'm getting tired of my own comments, so I won't comment on this one; > there's not much to say about it anyway. Well you know what, that's a good idea :) I love your comics but when I read the comments, it sort of spoils it. We dont want to know why it's funny, because when we know, it's not funny anymore ! BoD
"BoD" <spa...@BoDLand.com> skrev i meddelandet news:3d457b28$0$273$626...@news.free.fr... > > I'm getting tired of my own comments, so I won't comment on this one; > > there's not much to say about it anyway. > > Well you know what, that's a good idea :) > I love your comics but when I read the comments, it sort of spoils it. We > dont want to know why it's funny, because when we know, it's not funny > anymore ! Even if you read the strip first and then the comment? But I never even say why it's funny... I may have said why -I- think it's funny every now and then, but only tiny irrelevant details. -- OO Joaquim G�ndara | Official Nerd Boy site: .||. | http://nerdboy.port5.com (UK) bb jg | http://nerdboy.xepher.net (US)
In article <ai3q09$10mfr9$1...@ID-102694.news.dfncis.de>, "Joaquim G�ndara" <cla...@lords.com> wrote: >"llizard" <lli...@NOPOLLUTIONwildmail.com> skrev i meddelandet >news:64n...@4ax.com >> In article <ai3m0d$10idcf$1...@ID-102694.news.dfncis.de>, "Joaquim >> G�ndara" <cla...@lords.com> wrote: >> >"llizard" <lli...@NOPOLLUTIONwildmail.com> skrev i meddelandet >> >news:v1g...@4ax.com >8< >> >> Move Fanboy over a little so that his "um" doesn't seem like part of >> >> Nerdboy's words. >> > >> >It's meant to look as if he's interrupting him. However, I wasn't very >> >satisfied with it either. >> >> Okay, how about this: >> >> Actually, I'm glad Mandy left! >> She was so full >> of crap! Um.. >> ` `,,, >> OO ..' >> .||. .||. >> ______ bb __________ || ____________ >> >> I realize that it doesn't look exactly like an interruption this way >> but at least there is no doubt that Fanboy is saying "Um" (When I >> first read the strip, I thought that Nerdboy had said "Um" because he >> was trying to sidestep from saying such terrible things about Mandy. > >Hmm... The text is sprawling out all over the place. The only solution I >can see is to shorten NB's line or move FB. The first is very hard to do >and still convey the same thing, and the other just looks odd; they're >already a bit far apart for a conversation IMO. How about the following: Actually, I'm glad Um.. Mandy ` `,,, left! OO ..' She .||. .||. was___ bb _________ || ____________ so full of crap! She's standing right behind you. `,,, OO ..' .||. -)). ______ bb _________ /( _________ (This would mean, of course, that you would have to retain your immediate segue into frame 3) I knew that! I was joking! You think I'm an idiot?! ,,, `OO ..' .||. .||. ______ bb ________ || _________ Note that Fanboy is now standing a little closer to Nerdboy. Maybe you could put something like a table or a vending machine between them so that it makes sense that they are standing so far apart? [snip] >> >> Remove the extraneous *laugh* *point* from above Fanboy. His >> >> expression says it all >> >> >> >> OK, don't >> >> answer that. >> >> ` ,,, >> >> OO ~~' >> >> .||. -||. >> >> jg__________________________________________ dd __________________ || >> > >> >But it was Popeye-stylee! >> >> I'm not familiar with that unsubtle style. Happily, it has been eons >> since I have seen a Popeye cartoon. > >It's not unsubtlety, they usually just repeat things all around the character. > > You're not making > any sense Fan Boy. > , > OO *hm?* > *huh?* .||. > bb This seems entirely different from the *point! laugh!*. That demonstration there is thoughts and dialogue. The *point! laugh!* seems to be an spoonfeeding explanation for readers who may be unable to make out Fanboy's expression. >They seem to be using dialogue as sound effects. Similarly, I wanted to use >actions as sound effects. Fan Boy literally gives off a *point! laugh!* sound. Hmmmm. It doesn't work for me. (How exactly does a *point! laugh!* sound?) -- llizard aka ejm >%^7^^^7^^ llizard@idirec+.ca ASCII-art & ASCII-animation www.crosswinds.net/~llizard/ascii-art/ If you are e-mailing and hit the reply button, add an "e" to "idirct"
In article <3d457b28$0$273$626...@news.free.fr>, "BoD" <spa...@BoDLand.com> wrote: >> I'm getting tired of my own comments, so I won't comment on this one; >> there's not much to say about it anyway. > >Well you know what, that's a good idea :) >I love your comics but when I read the comments, it sort of spoils it. We >dont want to know why it's funny, because when we know, it's not funny >anymore ! Ah, the voice of reason. BoD, I couldn't agree more heartily. Too much analysis makes Nerdboy a dull boy. I like the preface to Mark Twain's "Adventures of Huckleberry Finn": ................................... : Persons attempting to find a motive in this narrative will : be prosecuted; persons attempting to find a moral in it : will be banished; persons attempting to find a plot in it : will be shot. :....................................... -- ____ llizard aka ejm llizard@idirec+.ca /| OO| | |.||| ,^^%--- heh heh... |_|_bb| _/>\ \ of course, my feelings about Joaquim's comments --- == > \ won't stop me from making editorial remarks [_ejm_] __>,^ | | //| | ASCII-art & ASCII-animation www.crosswinds.net/~llizard/ascii-art/ If you are e-mailing and hit the reply button, add an "e" to "idirct"
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - --<-(llizard leyos tos loyos emiv apo alt.ascii-art)->-- > In article <3d457b28$0$273$626...@news.free.fr>, "BoD" ><spa...@BoDLand.com> wrote: > > I like the preface to Mark Twain's "Adventures of Huckleberry Finn": > ................................... >: Persons attempting to find a motive in this narrative will >: be prosecuted; persons attempting to find a moral in it >: will be banished; persons attempting to find a plot in it >: will be shot. >:....................................... Which in turn reminds me of a NPR interview that Douglas Adams: ...................................... : Basicaly I write the story and it ends up at about 500 or 600 pages : and then I go through the editing phase which means I remove anthing : that looks like a plot. :.......................................... ==)-> Xataleipw, Faux_Pseudo -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9Rc9Kkjt2bc9NoGsRArX0AJkBWZce9BN6YCjJw+pBebabFw7sWwCfWnA1 biBWI6Qq9AqptUbS4Eql5TA= =eke1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- .-')) _ UIN= 66618055 _ (('-. | It's a damn poor mind that ' ..- .:" ) ( ":. -.. ' | can only think of one way to ((,,_;'.;' ';. ';_,,)) | spell a word. ((_.;'*Faux_Pseudo*':._)) | - Andrew Jackson
"llizard" <lli...@NOPOLLUTIONwildmail.com> skrev i meddelandet news:da9...@4ax.com > In article <ai3q09$10mfr9$1...@ID-102694.news.dfncis.de>, "Joaquim > G�ndara" <cla...@lords.com> wrote: > >"llizard" <lli...@NOPOLLUTIONwildmail.com> skrev i meddelandet > >news:64n...@4ax.com > >> In article <ai3m0d$10idcf$1...@ID-102694.news.dfncis.de>, "Joaquim > >> G�ndara" <cla...@lords.com> wrote: > >> >"llizard" <lli...@NOPOLLUTIONwildmail.com> skrev i meddelandet > >> >news:v1g...@4ax.com > >8< > >> >> Move Fanboy over a little so that his "um" doesn't seem like part of > >> >> Nerdboy's words. 8< > >Hmm... The text is sprawling out all over the place. The only solution I > >can see is to shorten NB's line or move FB. The first is very hard to do > >and still convey the same thing, and the other just looks odd; they're > >already a bit far apart for a conversation IMO. > > How about the following: > > > Actually, > I'm glad Um.. > Mandy ` `,,, > left! OO ..' > She .||. .||. > was___ bb _________ || ____________ > so full of crap! > She's standing right behind you. > `,,, > OO ..' > .||. -)). > ______ bb _________ /( _________ > > > (This would mean, of course, that you would have to retain your > immediate segue into frame 3) Yeaurgh! You're not serious, right? That makes for -very- weird scanning; the reader will probably just skip over Fan Boy's first line! > I knew that! I was > joking! You think > I'm an idiot?! ,,, > `OO ..' > .||. .||. > ______ bb ________ || _________ > > Note that Fanboy is now standing a little closer to Nerdboy. Maybe you > could put something like a table or a vending machine between them so > that it makes sense that they are standing so far apart? That might make sense. Too bad I didn't think of that when I made it. 8< > >> >> Remove the extraneous *laugh* *point* from above Fanboy. His > >> >> expression says it all 8< > > You're not making > > any sense Fan Boy. > > , > > OO *hm?* > > *huh?* .||. > > bb > > This seems entirely different from the *point! laugh!*. That > demonstration there is thoughts and dialogue. The *point! laugh!* > seems to be an spoonfeeding explanation for readers who may be unable > to make out Fanboy's expression. Nooonononono. I understand how it can be mistaken for spoonfeeding, given the unclear medium. The fact is that I've seen it in comics where the pointing is perfectly obvious; the index finger is simply accompanied by a *point!* sound effect. Similarly, I've seen the sound effect *stare!*. > >They seem to be using dialogue as sound effects. Similarly, I wanted to use > >actions as sound effects. Fan Boy literally gives off a *point! laugh!* sound. > > Hmmmm. It doesn't work for me. (How exactly does a *point! laugh!* > sound?) Actually, that's the whole point of it. It was supposed to be a joke. There -is- no *point!* sound! I'm not trying to be overly clear and explain that Fan Boy is pointing. There's been plenty of pointing in the comic strip without any explanations, why would I start now? -- OO Joaquim G�ndara | Official Nerd Boy site: .||. | http://nerdboy.port5.com (UK) bb jg | http://nerdboy.xepher.net (US)
"llizard" <lli...@NOPOLLUTIONwildmail.com> skrev i meddelandet news:a1b...@4ax.com > In article <3d457b28$0$273$626...@news.free.fr>, "BoD" > <spa...@BoDLand.com> wrote: > > >> I'm getting tired of my own comments, so I won't comment on this one; > >> there's not much to say about it anyway. > > > >Well you know what, that's a good idea :) > >I love your comics but when I read the comments, it sort of spoils it. We > >dont want to know why it's funny, because when we know, it's not funny > >anymore ! > > Ah, the voice of reason. BoD, I couldn't agree more heartily. Too much > analysis makes Nerdboy a dull boy. Someone please show me my alleged analysis of Nerd Boy, I just can't see it. -- OO Joaquim G�ndara | Official Nerd Boy site: .||. | http://nerdboy.port5.com (UK) bb jg | http://nerdboy.xepher.net (US)
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In article <ai4jk9$uqekm$1...@ID-102694.news.dfncis.de>, "Joaquim G�ndara" <cla...@lords.com> wrote: >"llizard" <lli...@NOPOLLUTIONwildmail.com> skrev i meddelandet >news:da9...@4ax.com >> In article <ai3q09$10mfr9$1...@ID-102694.news.dfncis.de>, "Joaquim >> G�ndara" <cla...@lords.com> wrote: >> >"llizard" <lli...@NOPOLLUTIONwildmail.com> skrev i meddelandet >> >news:64n...@4ax.com >> >> In article <ai3m0d$10idcf$1...@ID-102694.news.dfncis.de>, "Joaquim >> >> G�ndara" <cla...@lords.com> wrote: >> >> >"llizard" <lli...@NOPOLLUTIONwildmail.com> skrev i meddelandet >> >> >news:v1g...@4ax.com >> >8< >> >> >> Move Fanboy over a little so that his "um" doesn't seem like part of >> >> >> Nerdboy's words. [snip] >> How about the following: >> >> >> Actually, >> I'm glad Um.. >> Mandy ` `,,, >> left! OO ..' >> She .||. .||. >> was___ bb _________ || ____________ >> so full of crap! >> She's standing right behind you. >> `,,, >> OO ..' >> .||. -)). >> ______ bb _________ /( _________ >> >> >> (This would mean, of course, that you would have to retain your >> immediate segue into frame 3) > >Yeaurgh! You're not serious, right? That makes for -very- weird scanning; >the reader will probably just skip over Fan Boy's first line! It doesn't seem weird at all. Nerdboy's words frame him and his final line actually points over neatly to Fanboy. When I look at it, Fanboy's "Um" in the middle of that stream does show that he is trying to interrupt Nerdboy. >> I knew that! I was >> joking! You think >> I'm an idiot?! ,,, >> `OO ..' >> .||. .||. >> ______ bb ________ || _________ >> >> Note that Fanboy is now standing a little closer to Nerdboy. Maybe you >> could put something like a table or a vending machine between them so >> that it makes sense that they are standing so far apart? > >That might make sense. Too bad I didn't think of that when I made it. You can always produce a second edition. It wouldn't be the first time... >> >> >> Remove the extraneous *laugh* *point* from above Fanboy. His >> >> >> expression says it all [snip] >> The *point! laugh!* >> seems to be an spoonfeeding explanation for readers who may be unable >> to make out Fanboy's expression. > >Nooonononono. I understand how it can be mistaken for spoonfeeding, given the >unclear medium. The fact is that I've seen it in comics where the pointing is >perfectly obvious; the index finger is simply accompanied by a *point!* sound >effect. Similarly, I've seen the sound effect *stare!*. Just because it's in other comics doesn't make it any more acceptable. Either the drawing is selfexplanatory or it is not. In this case, in context, it is clear that Fanboy is laughing at Nerdboy. ,,, ~~' -||. || jg >> >They seem to be using dialogue as sound effects. Similarly, I wanted to use >> >actions as sound effects. Fan Boy literally gives off a *point! laugh!* sound. >> >> Hmmmm. It doesn't work for me. (How exactly does a *point! laugh!* >> sound?) > >Actually, that's the whole point of it. It was supposed to be a joke. There >-is- no *point!* sound! I'm not trying to be overly clear and explain that >Fan Boy is pointing. There's been plenty of pointing in the comic strip >without any explanations, why would I start now? And THAT is my point exactly (no pun intended). Why should you start now? The extraneous *point* *laugh* detracts from Nerdboy's "OK, don't answer that", which is the punchline (at least I thought that was the punchline) -- llizard aka ejm >%^7^^^7^^ llizard@idirec+.ca ASCII-art & ASCII-animation www.crosswinds.net/~llizard/ascii-art/ If you are e-mailing and hit the reply button, add an "e" to "idirct"
In article <3D4...@hotbrev.com>, Veronica Karlsson <v...@hotbrev.com> wrote: >llizard wrote: >> /| OO| >> | |.||| ,^^%--- heh heh... >> |_|_bb| _/>\ \ of course, my feelings about Joaquim's comments >> --- == > \ won't stop me from making editorial remarks [snip] >Just make sure to keep them out of the chat! :-) There's yet ANOTHER rule??? I thought that one just wasn't allowed to utter the name "Nerdboy". -- ,^^%--- llizard aka ejm /<\ \ Has my unjust punishment llizard@idirec+.ca \</ been lifted yet? ASCII-art & ASCII-animation ^^|\ www.crosswinds.net/~llizard/ascii-art/ ejm / | If you are e-mailing and hit the reply button, add an "e" to "idirct"
"llizard" <lli...@NOPOLLUTIONwildmail.com> skrev i meddelandet news:tnj...@4ax.com > In article <ai4jk9$uqekm$1...@ID-102694.news.dfncis.de>, "Joaquim > G�ndara" <cla...@lords.com> wrote: > >"llizard" <lli...@NOPOLLUTIONwildmail.com> skrev i meddelandet > >news:da9...@4ax.com > >> In article <ai3q09$10mfr9$1...@ID-102694.news.dfncis.de>, "Joaquim > >> G�ndara" <cla...@lords.com> wrote: > >> >"llizard" <lli...@NOPOLLUTIONwildmail.com> skrev i meddelandet > >> >news:64n...@4ax.com > >> >> In article <ai3m0d$10idcf$1...@ID-102694.news.dfncis.de>, "Joaquim > >> >> G�ndara" <cla...@lords.com> wrote: > >> >> >"llizard" <lli...@NOPOLLUTIONwildmail.com> skrev i meddelandet > >> >> >news:v1g...@4ax.com > >> >8< > >> >> >> Move Fanboy over a little so that his "um" doesn't seem like part of > >> >> >> Nerdboy's words. > [snip] > >> How about the following: > >> > >> > >> Actually, > >> I'm glad Um.. > >> Mandy ` `,,, > >> left! OO ..' > >> She .||. .||. > >> was___ bb _________ || ____________ > >> so full of crap! > >> She's standing right behind you. > >> `,,, > >> OO ..' > >> .||. -)). > >> ______ bb _________ /( _________ 8< > >Yeaurgh! You're not serious, right? That makes for -very- weird scanning; > >the reader will probably just skip over Fan Boy's first line! > > It doesn't seem weird at all. Nerdboy's words frame him and his final > line actually points over neatly to Fanboy. When I look at it, > Fanboy's "Um" in the middle of that stream does show that he is trying > to interrupt Nerdboy. Well, frankly, I really don't like it. It doesn't work at all for me. 8< > You can always produce a second edition. It wouldn't be the first > time... I hadn't posted it here yet, so it wasn't "official". 8< > >> The *point! laugh!* seems to be an spoonfeeding explanation for > >> readers who may be unable to make out Fanboy's expression. > > > >Nooonononono. I understand how it can be mistaken for spoonfeeding, given the > >unclear medium. The fact is that I've seen it in comics where the pointing is > >perfectly obvious; the index finger is simply accompanied by a *point!* sound > >effect. Similarly, I've seen the sound effect *stare!*. > > Just because it's in other comics doesn't make it any more acceptable. Just because you haven't read the other comics doesn't mean no one else has. I want to and need to draw inspiration from other comics. > Either the drawing is selfexplanatory or it is not. In this case, in > context, it is clear that Fanboy is laughing at Nerdboy. Good. Then the sound effects shouldn't be a problem. 8< > >> Hmmmm. It doesn't work for me. (How exactly does a *point! laugh!* > >> sound?) > > > >Actually, that's the whole point of it. It was supposed to be a joke. There > >-is- no *point!* sound! I'm not trying to be overly clear and explain that > >Fan Boy is pointing. There's been plenty of pointing in the comic strip > >without any explanations, why would I start now? > > And THAT is my point exactly (no pun intended). Why should you start > now? I haven't. > The extraneous *point* *laugh* detracts from Nerdboy's "OK, don't > answer that", which is the punchline (at least I thought that was the > punchline) A weak punchline, which I wanted to combine with a postpunchline joke, Calvin & Hobbes style. -- OO Joaquim G�ndara | Official Nerd Boy site: .||. | http://nerdboy.port5.com (UK) bb jg | http://nerdboy.xepher.net (US)
In article <ai7dq2$128jlj$1...@ID-102694.news.dfncis.de>, "Joaquim G�ndara" <cla...@lords.com> wrote: >"llizard" <lli...@NOPOLLUTIONwildmail.com> skrev i meddelandet >news:tnj...@4ax.com >> In article <ai4jk9$uqekm$1...@ID-102694.news.dfncis.de>, "Joaquim >> G�ndara" <cla...@lords.com> wrote: >> >"llizard" <lli...@NOPOLLUTIONwildmail.com> skrev i meddelandet >> >news:da9...@4ax.com [snip] >> >> The *point! laugh!* seems to be an spoonfeeding explanation for >> >> readers who may be unable to make out Fanboy's expression. >> > >> >Nooonononono. I understand how it can be mistaken for spoonfeeding, given the >> >unclear medium. The fact is that I've seen it in comics where the pointing is >> >perfectly obvious; the index finger is simply accompanied by a *point!* sound >> >effect. Similarly, I've seen the sound effect *stare!*. >> >> Just because it's in other comics doesn't make it any more acceptable. > >Just because you haven't read the other comics doesn't mean no one else has. >I want to and need to draw inspiration from other comics. It makes no difference at all whether anyone has read the other comics or not. I would still say that *laugh* *point* in this instance was unnecessary. >> Either the drawing is selfexplanatory or it is not. In this case, in >> context, it is clear that Fanboy is laughing at Nerdboy. > >Good. Then the sound effects shouldn't be a problem. The sound effects detract from it. I see the words and immediately think "Well, Duh... Yeh, I think I already knew that...." The sound effects there just look to me like an apology for the medium. And I'm well aware that small ASCII-art is extremely difficult to convey. _____|_____ |\ ||||| /| | \ ||||| / | | \|||||/ | | (-o,o-) | ~---, | \ c / | \_,^%--- | ,`-'. | /> \ Hey, I should know - my self portrait | .-\/@\/-. | ___/ > is the original IPOS (incomprehensible _|/_________\|_ (# o) > pile of sticks) /|\ '-~ /|^^ / | \ ejm | \ >> >> Hmmmm. It doesn't work for me. (How exactly does a *point! laugh!* >> >> sound?) >> > >> >Actually, that's the whole point of it. It was supposed to be a joke. There >> >-is- no *point!* sound! I'm not trying to be overly clear and explain that >> >Fan Boy is pointing. There's been plenty of pointing in the comic strip >> >without any explanations, why would I start now? >> >> And THAT is my point exactly (no pun intended). Why should you start >> now? > >I haven't. I believe that you have, by putting in those "sound effects". However, it is clear that I am the only one who objects to the sound effects. C'est la vie. >> The extraneous *point* *laugh* detracts from Nerdboy's "OK, don't >> answer that", which is the punchline (at least I thought that was the >> punchline) > >A weak punchline, which I wanted to combine with a postpunchline joke, >Calvin & Hobbes style. The punchline isn't weak. The postpunchline joke would work better if it didn't have the extra words to distract the eye. But I sense that you have tired of my ceaseless nagging on this. From now on, I will try to confine my comments on your strips that I find funny to "oh wow that was fabulous" and perhaps attempt to say why I think it works. And speaking of #258, is there a reason that it is only on http://nerdboy.xepher.net/ and not on http://nerdboy.port5.com/ ? -- ____ llizard aka ejm llizard@idirec+.ca /| OO| | |.||| ,^^%--- the only reason I've made suggestions |_|_bb| _/>\ \ is that I see something quite good --- == > \ that with a few tweaks could be great [_____] __>,^ ejm | | //| | ASCII-art & ASCII-animation www.crosswinds.net/~llizard/ascii-art/ If you are e-mailing and hit the reply button, add an "e" to "idirct"
"llizard" <lli...@NOPOLLUTIONwildmail.com> skrev i meddelandet news:6is...@4ax.com > In article <ai7dq2$128jlj$1...@ID-102694.news.dfncis.de>, "Joaquim > G�ndara" <cla...@lords.com> wrote: > >"llizard" <lli...@NOPOLLUTIONwildmail.com> skrev i meddelandet > >news:tnj...@4ax.com > >> In article <ai4jk9$uqekm$1...@ID-102694.news.dfncis.de>, "Joaquim > >> G�ndara" <cla...@lords.com> wrote: > >> >"llizard" <lli...@NOPOLLUTIONwildmail.com> skrev i meddelandet > >> >news:da9...@4ax.com 8< > >> The extraneous *point* *laugh* detracts from Nerdboy's "OK, don't > >> answer that", which is the punchline (at least I thought that was the > >> punchline) > > > >A weak punchline, which I wanted to combine with a postpunchline joke, > >Calvin & Hobbes style. > > The punchline isn't weak. The postpunchline joke would work better if > it didn't have the extra words to distract the eye. The "extra words" _are_ the postpunchline joke. > But I sense that you have tired of my ceaseless nagging on this. From > now on, I will try to confine my comments on your strips that I find > funny to "oh wow that was fabulous" and perhaps attempt to say why I > think it works. You can question my writing any time you want, but this discussion just seems to go back and forth... > And speaking of #258, is there a reason that it is only on > http://nerdboy.xepher.net/ and not on http://nerdboy.port5.com/ ? Yes, I couldn't get through to the port5 server yesterday. > ____ > /| OO| > | |.||| ,^^%--- the only reason I've made suggestions > |_|_bb| _/>\ \ is that I see something quite good > --- == > \ that with a few tweaks could be great > [_____] __>,^ > ejm | | //| | Subjectively speaking, of course, since I see something rather OK that with your tweaks would become worse... In this case, anyway. -- OO Joaquim G�ndara | Official Nerd Boy site: .||. | http://nerdboy.port5.com (UK) bb jg | http://nerdboy.xepher.net (US)
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>to utter the name "Nerdboy".
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