Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 2 Feb 1997.
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· 9 messages · 2 Feb 1997 - 8 Feb 1997
ONE QUESTION. HOW IS THIS STUFF DONE? ITS PRETTY WILD
In article <5d398c$dg...@paperboy.ids.net>, Bobby <dome@?.com> writes
>ONE QUESTION. HOW IS THIS STUFF DONE? ITS PRETTY WILD
Please don't shout. Well, you get the keys;
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In article <199...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, spu...@aol.com writes >In article <1Of...@g-dav.demon.co.uk>, alisha ><sop...@g-dav.demon.co.uk> writes: >> Well, you get the keys; >> >>a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z >>A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z >>[ ] { } ; : ' @ # ~ , < . > / ? \ | ` � � >>1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 - = >>! " � $ % ^ & * ( ) _ + >> >>and turn them into pictures & writing (i.e; animals, people, writing) > >hey.. there are a couple non-ascii characters in the list that ought not >to be used... > � and � and � Why not use them? They _are_ keys on the keyboard after all. >-joan >-- > .==,_ > .===,_`\ > .====,_ ` \ .====,__ > --- .==-,`~. \ `:`.__, > --- `~~=-. \ /^^^ ...always on the go! > --- `~~=. \ / > `~. \ / spu...@juno.com > ~. \____./ * joan stark * > jgs `.=====) > ___.--~~~--.__ > ___\.--~~~ ~~~---.._|/ > ~~~" / > > my ascii art gallery: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373/ > > -- (\ <__> /) What's in a name? (\ <__> /) ( \(__)/ ) / / That which we call a rose \ \ ( \(__)/ ) ( /< \ ) |/_/ By any other name would smell as sweet; \_\| ( / >\ ) (/ `\ / --William Shakespere \ /` \) ( )~~O' 'O~~( ) / \/' e-mail: sop...@g-dav.demon.co.uk '\/ \ ~~~~ ~~~~
sop...@g-dav.demon.co.uk (alisha): > In article <5d398c$dg...@paperboy.ids.net>, Bobby <dome@?.com> writes > >ONE QUESTION. HOW IS THIS STUFF DONE? ITS PRETTY WILD > Please don't shout. Well, you get the keys; > a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z > A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z > [ ] { } ; : ' @ # ~ , < . > / ? \ | ` � � > 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 - = ^ ^ > ! " � $ % ^ & * ( ) _ + | | | | 254_8 AC_16 172_10 ?? -----------' | 246_8 A6_16 166_10 ?? -------------' And here I was, thinking that ASCII only was for characters from 000 to 127. Have I missed yet another revolution? Sven [HIBT?]
In article <1Of...@g-dav.demon.co.uk>, alisha <sop...@g-dav.demon.co.uk> writes: > Well, you get the keys; > >a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z >A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z >[ ] { } ; : ' @ # ~ , < . > / ? \ | ` � � >1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 - = >! " � $ % ^ & * ( ) _ + > >and turn them into pictures & writing (i.e; animals, people, writing) hey.. there are a couple non-ascii characters in the list that ought not to be used... � and � and � -joan -- .==,_ .===,_`\ .====,_ ` \ .====,__ --- .==-,`~. \ `:`.__, --- `~~=-. \ /^^^ ...always on the go! --- `~~=. \ / `~. \ / spu...@juno.com ~. \____./ * joan stark * jgs `.=====) ___.--~~~--.__ ___\.--~~~ ~~~---.._|/ ~~~" / my ascii art gallery: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373/
sop...@g-dav.demon.co.uk (alisha): > >hey.. there are a couple non-ascii characters in the list that ought not > >to be used... � and � and � > Why not use them? They _are_ keys on the keyboard after all. Beause they are not ASCII characters? RfD: alt.non-ascii.art RfD: alt.ascii.art.not RfD: alt.iso.art RfD: alt.art.whatever Sven
spa...@mymail.com wrote: >On Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:51:01 +0000, alisha <sop...@g-dav.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >>In article <199...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, >>spu...@aol.com writes >>>In article <1Of...@g-dav.demon.co.uk>, alisha >>><sop...@g-dav.demon.co.uk> writes: >>>> Well, you get the keys; >>>> >>>>a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z >>>>A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z >>>>[ ] { } ; : ' @ # ~ , < . > / ? \ | ` � � >>>>1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 - = >>>>! " � $ % ^ & * ( ) _ + >>>> >>>>and turn them into pictures & writing (i.e; animals, people, writing) >>> >>>hey.. there are a couple non-ascii characters in the list that ought not >>>to be used... >>> � and � and � >> >>Why not use them? They _are_ keys on the keyboard after all. >Because they are not ASCII standard characters and are therefore not >necessarily portable across systems. These characters that are on *your* >keyboard may be entirely untranslatable on some other type of system. >The whole purpose of the ASCII standard was to allow different machines to have >some standard of communication. Only the 1st 127 characters are ASCII standard. >The rest are anarchic. > >Alan <sigh> Some day, one day, someone, will write a FAQ explaining this with such crystal clarity and simplicity that no one could possibly fail to understand it. I have tried with my regular "WARNING" posting but it clearly fails in its purpose. :-( I think I may try adding your paragraphs to the WARNING posting. >> � and � and � Those keys are not on _my_ keyboard. I have to use the Alt key to access them. Why ? Because they are part of the "Extended Character Set" ( paragraph 2 below ). =================================================================== WARNING ==================================================================== Control Codes: ------------- PLEASE do *NOT* post Colour, Color, Control Codes or Animation Codes to ASCII-ART newsgroups - or indeed ANY Internet newsgroup. It can cause an awful lot of trouble on Net systems worldwide. If you wish to post Raw Code then UUENCODE it first ! Colour & Color Control Codes in subject titles and headers should be avoided entirely. Extended Character Set: ---------------------- The only Ascii characters which should be posted and used in Ascii Art are: Decimal characters 32 to 127. The Extended Character Set of Decimal 128 to 255 made by using the Alt key, and used for ANSI pictures, must be UUencoded before posting to the Net and should not be used in ASCII artwork pictures. ==================================================================== Please do NOT post Colour & Color Control Codes in message headers and titles. The problems are due to some Net software recognising the Raw Code as commands which make the software do unwanted things and can even cause a system to crash. This message is being reposted frequently because many newcomers to the Net do not seem to know the problems caused by Control Codes. ==================================================================== I really _will_ have to try to rehash this damn thing to make it crystal clear whilst keeping it short and precise. One problem with it is that I wrote it at a time when alt.ascii-art was full of screams saying " Please, please turn off the colour " and a big flamewar resulted...so the current WARNING posting is slanted to colour code avoidance rather than avoidance of Non-Ascii Characters. The Jorn Barger and Scarecrow FAQs do address these matters but again the information seems to be ineffective in reaching readers...assuming they even read all that stuff. The Ascii Art FAQs have been criticised for being too long. Bye,
On Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:51:01 +0000, alisha <sop...@g-dav.demon.co.uk> wrote: >In article <199...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, >spu...@aol.com writes >>In article <1Of...@g-dav.demon.co.uk>, alisha >><sop...@g-dav.demon.co.uk> writes: >>> Well, you get the keys; >>> >>>a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z >>>A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z >>>[ ] { } ; : ' @ # ~ , < . > / ? \ | ` � � >>>1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 - = >>>! " � $ % ^ & * ( ) _ + >>> >>>and turn them into pictures & writing (i.e; animals, people, writing) >> >>hey.. there are a couple non-ascii characters in the list that ought not >>to be used... >> � and � and � > >Why not use them? They _are_ keys on the keyboard after all. > Because they are not ASCII standard characters and are therefore not necessarily portable across systems. These characters that are on *your* keyboard may be entirely untranslatable on some other type of system. The whole purpose of the ASCII standard was to allow different machines to have some standard of communication. Only the 1st 127 characters are ASCII standard. The rest are anarchic. Alan My real address is alanp @ netcom.ca (without spaces) but I'm sick of email spam.
On 6 Feb 1997 20:05:56 GMT, cfb...@southern.co.nz (Colin Douthwaite) wrote: >>>> � and � and � >>> > >>>Why not use them? They _are_ keys on the keyboard after all. > >>Because they are not ASCII standard characters and are therefore not >> >>Alan > ><sigh> Some day, one day, someone, will write a FAQ explaining this >with such crystal clarity and simplicity that no one could possibly >fail to understand it. I have tried with my regular "WARNING" >posting but it clearly fails in its purpose. :-( > >I think I may try adding your paragraphs to the WARNING posting. I'm flattered. >I really _will_ have to try to rehash this damn thing to make it >crystal clear whilst keeping it short and precise. > >The Jorn Barger and Scarecrow FAQs do address these matters but >again the information seems to be ineffective in reaching >readers...assuming they even read all that stuff. The Ascii Art FAQs >have been criticised for being too long. I think it's a losing battle. There was a time way back in the misty dawn of personal computers that this was not an issue because about the only people buying them were doing so in order to learn what made them tick, and were digging into the internals. Now though, people want an appliance, and it never really occurs to many that all keyboard are not created equal - I mean, they all look much the same (within reason). I feel the need here to qualify that I am not saying that disparagingly. I think that the computer as an appliance is becoming more and more a very reasonable expectation. About the only way to really bring it home would be to supply everybody with a keyboard for a day that generates EBCDIC keycodes attached to an ASCII system, and let them loose on it. Maybe after typing nothing but gibberish for a while, they'd get the message. Alan My real address is alanp @ netcom.ca (without spaces) but I'm sick of email spam.
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