Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 13 Oct 1998.
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· 50 messages · 13 Oct 1998 - 25 Oct 1998
Thanks sarah, I am very brite, and I am sure I will be better at creating ASCII art with experiance. This, what these "adults" are showing is imaturity in themselves, taking automatically to conclusion that we, as 13 yr olds, are stupider then them, and we can not do just as god, or BETTER work them them. This, is just as bad as racism or sexism, maybe there is such a thing as ageism.
temp wrote: > > Thanks sarah, I am very brite, and I am sure I will be better at > creating ASCII art with experiance. This, what these "adults" are > showing is imaturity in themselves, taking automatically to conclusion > that we, as 13 yr olds, are stupider then them, and we can not do just > as god, or BETTER work them them. This, is just as bad as racism or > sexism, maybe there is such a thing as ageism. You were the one holding up your age as a defense - _after_ having showed that you're a newbie. There are others, e.g. Martin Atkins, who occasionally "come out" and shock the rest of us with how young they are... Trust me, it's not your age that made me think you're, well, less intelligent than some others, but the way you acted. So far, I think I have a fairly good grip of the age of llizard, Joris, Joan, Martin, and maybe a couple of others. Then there are some that I know are students, so it seems likely they should be about 20-30, and some who talk about their children, so they are probably a little bit older than that. Other than that I don't have a clue about people's age - I just assume they are all 25-year-old boys. ;) -- _ __ __ _ _ __ ___.--'_`. \ \ / /__ _ _ ___ _ _ (_)__ __ _ .'_`--.___ __ ( _`.'. - 'o` ) \ V / -_) '_/ _ \ ' \| / _/ _` | ( 'o` - .`.'_ ) _\.'_' _.-' \_/\___|_| \___/_||_|_\__\__,_| `-._ `_`./_ ( \`. ) //\` '/\\ ( .'/ ) \_`-'`---'\\__, uggc://jjj.yhqq.yhgu.fr/~ix/ ,__//`---'`-'_/ \` `-\ r93...@fz.yhgu.fr /-' '/ ` ascii art chat: http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/cgi/asciichat/ '
temp wrote: > > Thanks sarah, I am very brite, and I am sure I will be better at > creating ASCII art with experiance. This, what these "adults" are > showing is imaturity in themselves, taking automatically to conclusion > that we, as 13 yr olds, are stupider then them, and we can not do just > as god, or BETTER work them them. This, is just as bad as racism or > sexism, maybe there is such a thing as ageism. Yes, I agree. Kids are in many ways better than adults. Adults are weird at times ... ========================================================= [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] =========================================================
temp <c.j...@erols.com> wrote: > Thanks sarah, I am very brite, and I am sure I will be better at > creating ASCII art with experiance. Well it seems that you are not very "brite" at spelling in spite of the 8 years (or more ?) of "experiance" of tuition/schooling that you had have already. I was taught to spell excellently in my second year of my very first primary school. > This, what these "adults" are showing is imaturity in themselves, > taking automatically to conclusion that we, as 13 yr olds, are > stupider then them, ^^^^ It is not a matter of stupidity but one of comprehension. One cannot do University study straight out of Kindergarten unless you are a child prodigy. Most students get their first Internet account at their University not at school or home where they should be fully supervised in their use of computers and especially the Net and newsgroups. At this time in your development you should be using the K12 Hierarchy on the Net which is specifically provided for those people of school age who learning to use the Net. Schools provide K12 and teacher supervision. The Usenet newsgroups, like this one are for ADULTS not CHILDREN...sorry but that is the reality. There are no hierarchies or newsgroups for children with the exception of K12. Ask your schoolteachers about K12. > and we can not do just as god, or BETTER work them them. ^^^ ^^^^ You don't know how silly and almost infantile you are making yourself appear, although I doubt you are that bad, by repeatedly using your silly arguments and _atrocious_ spelling for a 13 year old. > This, is just as bad as racism or sexism, maybe there is > such a thing as ageism. IMPORTANT: Please get one thing crystal clear:. Nobody on the Net has any obligation to educate you in the use of the Net and its many activities including newsgroups. Everything that people do on the Net is completely free and voluntary and they are in no way required to answer you, help you, or tolerate you. Some folks will try to help you, others will flame you. Personally I do not think children should use these newsgroups unsupervised by teachers and parents/guardians. That is only my personal opinion and most of the things that appear in newsgroups are often just that...personal opinions. It your position it is a question of learning to walk before you can run, knowing how to spell before you can write properly, and working up through the grades necessary for mature adulthood and participation in the adult newsgroups of the Net. And yes, there _is_ ageism...it becomes increasingly harder to find work and to remain sufficiently healthy and wealthy as age increases. So...please...follow Veronica Karlsson's advice and try not to become either a problem child and, maybe, a problem adult later. Do your parents/guardians and teachers know you here are on the Net? Are you under their supervision and advice? Do you heed and follow their help and advice when they give it? Here once again, to remind you is Veronica's advice to you. She also tried to help Sarah Day. You might do well to start with number 5) in her list: -------------------------------------------------------------------- Veronica Karlsson <dre...@on.spammer> wrote: >temp wrote: >> Veronica Karlsson wrote: >> > Hmmm... Maybe you should use some more interesting name than "temp".. >> >> thats the thing, Im only 13, its my dad's account, I dont know how to >> change it, if I did, I wouldnt be able to change it to anything >> interesting. I need a place where I can have my own account. >1. Your age in years as a human is not an excuse for anything. >2. Your youth in days as a newbie is an explanation, but not an excuse. >3. Spend a couple of hours at this place: > ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.announce.newusers/ >4. If you want to make test posts and just generally play with and get >used to your news program there is another, special, newsgroup for that >purpose called alt.test >5. Please, stay out of the newsgroup and come into my chat (see my sig >for the URL) and we can sort out your problems there, were we won't >irritate the rest of the group. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ============================================================================ -------The ASCII ART FAQ Ten Commandments.--------- \\\\`/// / _ _| 1/ Thou shalt read the FAQ. (\'('\/') 2/ Thou shalt not remove the ______/( >(__ Signature from any ASCII ART. /`- \ \_=__| `\ 3/ Thou shalt not claim the Ownership / /__( _____\ _____ of someone else's ASCII ART. /_ \.____ ," "." ",__ 4/ Thou shalt read the FAQ. | / _\__/_ - / \ 5/ Thou shalt ask permission \/ /____ \ASCII ART FAQ /// before using Someone else's ) / / \__\ - | ASCII ART. '-.__|_/ ///| I VI | 6/ Thou shalt not sell Someone \_ | | | else's ASCII ART. | | II VII | 7/ Thou shalt read the darn FAQ. \ | | | 8/ Thou shalt not post / | III VIII | unaccredited ASCII ART without \ | | | mentioning that you didn't make it. \_ | IV IX | 9/ Thou shalt not assume that \| | | ASCII ART isn't ART at all. | V X | 10/ Thou shalt read the FAQing FAQ. |______b'ger______| a copy of the FAQ can be found at: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373/faq.htm tutorials also available there! ============================================================================ Later,
On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, Veronica Karlsson wrote: > So far, I think I have a fairly good grip of the age of llizard, Joris, > Joan, Martin, and maybe a couple of others. Then there are some that I > know are students, so it seems likely they should be about 20-30, and > some who talk about their children, so they are probably a little bit > older than that. Other than that I don't have a clue about people's age > - I just assume they are all 25-year-old boys. ;) > Ah! A new question for the FAQ: How old is the UNKNOWN ASCII ARTIST? ------------------------------------ / | | | | | Have you been playing | | | | | on Daddys computer again?| |__|__| | ( ; ; ) .). __ '| , |' qPjPp (\/) Shake! | | | (@) ;)'" | | | //v\// |__|__| (;,;#;, ,--,_ __ .--& | &--. __(;/";))____-O--o'___('_)-_(______|______)_-[= ############################################### Phil -- Philip Powell ccx...@coventry.ac.uk Computing Services Coventry University
Shanaka Dias wrote: > > > hmm, I heard that everything is downhill from 25 > Grandma Veronica! ;) > Not *everything* ;) nice obascii. > Obascii : > > /\ > / \ > | | > --:'''':-- > :'_' : > _:"":\___ > ' ' ____.' ::: '._ > . *=====<<=) \ : > . ' '-'-'\_ /'._.' > \====:_ "" > .' \\ > : : > / | \ > | / '. > ,. _ snd | : : | > '-' ). |__|-|__.;--' > ( ' ) '-' '-' > ( - .00. - _ > ( .' _ ) ) > '- ()_.\,\, - > -- `, ,\, # |/ ? | ~ )\ /_ /\ \____ joris bellenger (b'ger) / \_/ \ e-mail: svz...@xs4all.nl http://www.xs4all.nl/~svzanten/joris/ascii/main.html / < ______ _> \ /___/ ,___/____) |\/
Phil wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, Veronica Karlsson wrote: > > > So far, I think I have a fairly good grip of the age of llizard, Joris, > > Joan, Martin, and maybe a couple of others. Then there are some that I > > know are students, so it seems likely they should be about 20-30, and > > some who talk about their children, so they are probably a little bit > > older than that. Other than that I don't have a clue about people's age > > - I just assume they are all 25-year-old boys. ;) > > > > Ah! A new question for the FAQ: > > How old is the UNKNOWN ASCII ARTIST? > ------------------------------------ > > / | | | | | > Have you been playing | | | | | > on Daddys computer again?| |__|__| | > ( ; ; ) > .). __ '| , |' > qPjPp (\/) Shake! | | | > (@) ;)'" | | | > //v\// |__|__| > (;,;#;, ,--,_ __ .--& | &--. > __(;/";))____-O--o'___('_)-_(______|______)_-[= > ############################################### > > Phil > > -- > Philip Powell > ccx...@coventry.ac.uk > Computing Services > Coventry University LOL ! Should we include a Stats-list now? ,--. ,-----------------------------. ([ oo] | You may be a prince | `- ^\ | or a streetsweeper | _ I`-' | Sooner or later | ,o(`-V' | You'll dance for the reaper | |( `-H-' `-----------------------------' |(`--A-' |(`-/_\'\ O `'I ``\\ (\ I |\, \\-T-"`, |H -- ____ Time : Thu Oct 15 15:58:33 1998 .X+. . .Xx+-. . "All's fair in love and war" -- what a contemptible lie. XXx++-.. Lazarus Long (134) XXxx++--.. `XXXxx+++--' `XXXxxx' ""
>From: "Ojosh!ro" <ojo...@lunatech.com> >Phil wrote: >> >> On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, Veronica Karlsson wrote: >> >> > So far, I think I have a fairly good grip of the age of llizard, Joris, >> > Joan, Martin, and maybe a couple of others. Then there are some that I >> > know are students, so it seems likely they should be about 20-30, and >> > some who talk about their children, so they are probably a little bit >> > older than that. Other than that I don't have a clue about people's age >> > - I just assume they are all 25-year-old boys. ;) >LOL ! > > Should we include a Stats-list now? Well I'm 28, but you can just assume I'm 25. :) -- .-~~-. (_^..^_) Lester||||AMC *Mythos Online : Internet Magazine of Lovecraftian Horror - Dead Alice* http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/redlion/157/deadal.htm *ANSI/ASCII* http://members.aol.com/lester5374/
Shanaka Dias <sdi...@netlane.com> wrote: > The difference between intelligence and wisdom is > that the intelligent man knows WHAT to say, while > the wise man knows WHEN to say it. Is that your own original quotable quote or is it an existing quote you got from somewhere? Do you have the source of the quote? Bye,
> nice obascii. > > Obascii : > > . . > > . . /\ > > . . . / \ > > . . . | | > > . . --:'''':-- > > . . . :'_' : > > . _:"":\___ > > . ' ' ____.' ::: '._ > > . .'. *=====<<=) \ : > > . . ,. '. '-'-'\_ /'._.' > > . . . \====:_ "" > > . . . . . .' \\ > > . . : : > > . . / | \ > > | / '. > > . ,. _ . snd | : : | > > '-' ). |__|-|__.;--' > > ( ' ) . '-' '-' > > _-^-_ ( - .00. - _ //~`, > > / : : \ ( .' _ ) ) //--' > > `-----' '- ()_.\,\, - // diddles: Faroul Dark troll telling a wizard he doesn't believe in magic Faroul -- Henning `Faroul' Peters - far...@gmx.net Kissing is like drinking salted water: you drink, and your thirst increases...
Colin Douthwaite wrote: > > temp <c.j...@erols.com> wrote: > > > Thanks sarah, I am very brite, and I am sure I will be better at > > creating ASCII art with experiance. > > Well it seems that you are not very "brite" at spelling in spite of Holy cow! Colin is now becoming quite vicious not just to me, but to kids! Following someone's lead, I counted 5 quite vicious flames from Colin today. That's down from 40+ flames a day, but when will that go down to zero? ========================================================= [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] =========================================================
Veronica Karlsson <dre...@on.spammer> wrote: >temp wrote: >> >> Thanks sarah, I am very brite, and I am sure I will be better at >> creating ASCII art with experiance. This, what these "adults" are >> showing is imaturity in themselves, taking automatically to conclusion >> that we, as 13 yr olds, are stupider then them, and we can not do just >> as god, or BETTER work them them. This, is just as bad as racism or >> sexism, maybe there is such a thing as ageism. Ummm yes temp, there is such a thing as ageism. As a newbie, you seemed to have missed a few points about newsgroups. When replying to a message it is usually good form to keep it in that thread and to include the relevant parts of the message in your post. The reason for this is that a newsgroup is different from a chatroom, people can take days, weeks, months to read a message, from the time it was posted. (Thank goodness Sarah has finally figured this out! ;) The difference between intelligence and wisdom is that the intelligent man knows WHAT to say, while the wise man knows WHEN to say it. Generally adults have lived longer than teenagers, and have had more time to make lots more mistakes. "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it." Of course, if part of your learning process is to post silly messages in a world wide forum, please don't let my comments affect your development. As for VK: >Other than that I don't have a clue about people's age >- I just assume they are all 25-year-old boys. ;) Even the girls? :) (umm that doesn't include me, Darned silly name "Shanaka"! <mumble> <mumble>) ;) hmm, I heard that everything is downhill from 25 Grandma Veronica! ;) Obascii : /\ / \ | | --:'''':-- :'_' : _:"":\___ ' ' ____.' ::: '._ . *=====<<=) \ : . ' '-'-'\_ /'._.' \====:_ "" .' \\ : : / | \ | / '. ,. _ snd | : : | '-' ). |__|-|__.;--' ( ' ) '-' '-' ( - .00. - _ ( .' _ ) ) '- ()_.\,\, - , , / \/ \ (/ //_ \_ .-._ \|| . \ \ '-._ _,:__.-"/---\_ \ ______/___ '. .--------------------'~-'--.)__( , )\ \ `'--.___ _\ / | Shanaka Dias ,' \)|\ `\| /_.-' _\ \ _:,_ Western Australia " || ( .'__ _.' \'-/,`-~` sdi...@netlane.com |/ '. ___.> /=,| | / .-'/_ ) '---------------------------------' snd )' ( /(/ \\ " '==' http://www.ece.curtin.edu.au/~shanaka
Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >Colin Douthwaite wrote: >> >> temp <c.j...@erols.com> wrote: >> >> > Thanks sarah, I am very brite, and I am sure I will be better at >> > creating ASCII art with experiance. >> >> Well it seems that you are not very "brite" at spelling in spite of >Holy cow! Colin is now becoming quite vicious not just to me, but to kids! HeHeHe. Temp's latest posting is a real beaut...right up your alley, Mr. Casso. Have you been giving "Temp" private tuition in Your Very Own Mailing List? Remember you wrote that you were 13 years old when Sarah Day launched her " This is a public channel " post expressing disapproval of people posting nudes, swear words with little kids watching. So PC...I'm only treating you just the same as the other 13 year olds...otherwise you are sure to complain about favouritism. Just be very thankful that I have had some of my fangs extracted and that I don't use too many swear words except the odd d#@&* and bl!#*t: _,--~~~, .' `. | ; " Aah 13 | : My Favourite Age /_,-==/ .' All soft & Juicy /'`\* ; : :' `- : Come 'ere! `~*,' . : sweet one :__.,._ `; : Aaaah! " `\' ) ' `, \-/ ' ) :' \ _ `~---,-~ `,) ___ \ /~`\ \---__ `;~~~-------------~~~(| _-' `, ---, ' \`-._____ _______.---' \ \--- `~~-`, ~~~~~~ `, \---- ) \ \----. __ / `- \----'` -~____ -szaman- ~~~~~--------,.___ ```\_ > Following someone's lead, I counted 5 quite vicious flames from > Colin today. That's down from 40+ flames a day, but when will > that go down to zero? Possibly when Mr. Casso and his young admirers go on permanent leave? Please take all your toothless, barking and sucking frogs with you though. We don't want anyone to get Mad Frog Disease from their toothless sucking and spitting. Viscously,
Well thank you Veronika =)
I knew I shoud have get rid of the beard sooner=)
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Colin,
I have come out of lurk mode to try to make a point. One of the greatest
things about the Internet is its great diversity. That includes age. The
Internet has provided a great place to get information from, and many kids log
on every day to get information for homework or to chat with their friends.
Newsgroups are another one of the great things that comes with the Internet.
They provide a chance to share things with other people across the world and to
get the opinions and ideas from them. If you do not like listening to what the
kids have to say, then maybe you should be the one to go, not the kids.
~Lianne, 14~
Lianne wrote: > > Colin, > > I have come out of lurk mode to try to make a point. One of the > greatest things about the Internet is its great diversity. That > includes age. The Internet has provided a great place to get > information from, and many kids log on every day to get information > for homework or to chat with their friends. Newsgroups are another one > of the great things that comes with the Internet. > They provide a chance to share things with other people across the > world and to get the opinions and ideas from them. If you do not like > listening to what the kids have to say, then maybe you should be the > one to go, not the kids. Amen!! I've been gone from this group for a long time but I don't like coming back and finding everybody screaming at each other... people who *used* to get along. All this throwing hate doesn't help any. --Muke! (my uncle once said, 'You become like the people you hate.') -- Beauty is skin deep; ugly goes right to the bone. No more spamblocks, send me all the passion you want... ICQUIN: 1936556 http://welcome.to/alt.binaries.games.creatures - Visit the abgc archive.
> Well I'm 28, but you can just assume I'm 25. :)
I am assumed 13, but then you can assume anything ;-))
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Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> wrote: > >> The difference between intelligence and wisdom is >> that the intelligent man knows WHAT to say, while >> the wise man knows WHEN to say it. > >Is that your own original quotable quote or is it an existing quote >you got from somewhere? > Nope, not mine, and I don't have the source. I don't remember where the one below came from either: "Intelligence is knowing that smoking is bad for your health. Wisdom is not smoking." ____ _____ _. / \ _.-'_.-' ;=',_ _____________________________ \ _\/ _/ S" .--` | Shanaka Dias | ___)/ __< sS \__ | Western Australia | <'-;:\_ _\ __.' ( \--> | sdi...@netlane.com | '; \_\ _=/ _./-\/ |_____________________________| >/-,\ ((\( /-' -'l ""` |_\ ) |/ \\ snd \\ \ http://www.ece.curtin.edu.au/~shanaka `~ `~
Pete Casso probably wrote: > > Welcome back, Angel Rivera! Thanks. :) > Since then, Colin has set the world record of 41 flames a day. We > should all be proud that he accomplished this remarkable feat > here on aaa. Don't start that with me. I don't need it. _ a /_(")_|\ >>--> \(")/ Archery. <eg> / / |/ \ \ \ \ / / __///___________________\\\__bkn_ --Muke! -- .signature file not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N) http://mc11a.southern.edu/ ICQ:1936556 mailto:rea...@bigfoot.com http://welcome.to/alt.binaries.games.creatures -Visit the abgc archive!
Colin Douthwaite wrote: > Er...what actually happened did you have a sex change? Nope. English is the only language I know where 'Angel' is a woman's name, and I am not of English (or even Caucasian) descent. > Whatever...if you didn't post any piccies what on earth were your 200 > postings to alt.ascii-art all about? As another user pointed out this > group is mainly for pics, do you see it as a chatroom? No, I see it as a community, like the rest of Usenet. I came here to appreciate the work of artists like Joan, Haley, Veronica, you, Krogg, Pete, Andreas, Shanaka, etc.. and to *try* to better my own work. > >I was just agreeing with Lianne B., whom I know from a different > >group. :) > > Oh you two _know_ each other? That sounds ominous...couple more > Trolls perhaps come to plague us all here in alt.ascii-art? Nope, I'm a Voice of Reason in my home group. > If you and Lianne are in fact trolling...please go away...we do not > need any more trolls here of any age or sex. I'd rather not go through age or sex here myself, thank you. > >(It would be a pretty pathetic flame too, lol, since I didn't even > >name any names or insult anyone! ;-) > > Huh? Your post was directed at poor l'il ol' me. Really? Here's the post I was referring to. [See http://www.dejanews.com/msgid.xp?MID=<362...@bigfoot.com> if it has expired from your server.] >Amen!! > >I've been gone from this group for a long time but I don't like coming >back and finding everybody screaming at each other... people who *used* >to get along. All this throwing hate doesn't help any. > > --Muke! > (my uncle once said, 'You become like > the people you hate.') The thread went as follows: Lianne `---Angel Rivera <-- the post quoted `---Colin Douthwaite <-- your post not remembering me `---Angel Rivera <-- my post identifying myself `---Colin Douthwaite <-- the post this post is a reply to If you'll notice, I did not mention your name in my original post. The reason for that is that I was not referring to you. --Muke! -- "NO wonder they're so bad tempered! They're always teething." --Lis Morris (on sharks) ICQ:1936556 http://mc11a.southern.edu/ -Personal [non-C1/C2] homepage http://welcome.to/alt.binaries.games.creatures -Visit the abgc archive!
Angel Rivera <rea...@bigfoot.com> wrote: >I've been gone from this group for a long time but I don't like coming >back and finding everybody screaming at each other... people who *used* >to get along. All this throwing hate doesn't help any. If you mean that people used to get along with Casso then you most certainly have been a long time away. In fact I do not even remember an "Angel Rivera" or any of your work. When were you last here and how many postings did you contribute? I've been here continuously since September 1993 but I do miss some postings and some never arrive here. Anyway, it's quite interesting to note that you have made your re-entry to alt.ascii-art purely with a flame of your own! __7__ %%%,%%%%%%% \_._/ ,'%% \\-*%%%%%%% ( ^ ) ;%%%%%*% _%%%% `='|\. ,%%% \(_.*%%%%. / | % *%%, ,%%%%*( ' (/ | %^ ,*%%% )\|,%%*%,_ |__, | *% \/ #).-*%%* | | _.) ,/ *%, | | _________/)#(_____________ /___| |_____________________b'ger| === Confucius say... " People who live in glasshouse should not throw stones." TTFN,
Lianne <emi...@columbus.rr.com> wrote: >Colin, > I have come out of lurk mode to try to make a point. One of the greatest >things about the Internet is its great diversity. That includes age. The >Internet has provided a great place to get information from, and many kids log >on every day to get information for homework or to chat with their friends. >Newsgroups are another one of the great things that comes with the Internet. >They provide a chance to share things with other people across the world and to >get the opinions and ideas from them. If you do not like listening to what the >kids have to say, then maybe you should be the one to go, not the kids. >~Lianne, 14~ But you completely miss the major points of Net use and newsgroup usage: 1) The Internet _is_ used by kids but they need to be supervised in its use by parents/guardians and teachers/tutors. It is clear that many kids are NOT supervised and use their home computers ...probably when no adults are home. Newsgroups are just one area of the Net. 2) There is a K12 hierarchy of newsgroups specifically for schools to help children of school age to learn to use the Net under teacher supervision and training. ==================================================================== k12 9 Aug 1996 ==================================================================== K12Net is a collection of conferences devoted to K-12 educational curriculum, language exchanges with native speakers, and classroom-to-classroom projects designed by teachers. The conferences are privately distributed among FidoNet-compatible electronic bulletin board systems in Africa, Asia, Australia, Europe, and North America, as well as available from uunet.uu.net as Usenet newsgroups in the hierarchy k12.* Classroom-to-classroom projects are featured in the K12 "Channels" which are periodically reassigned based on usage and appropriate project length. They comprise the k12.sys hierarchy. Forums for casual conversation among students are divided by grade level in the k12.chat hierarchy; there is also an area for teachers to exchange general ideas about using telecommunications in education. For more information, contact one of the members of the K12Net Council of Coordinators: Terry Bowden <bow...@vnet.ibm.com> Robert Brault <bra...@csmanoirs.qc.ca> Wolfgang Hofmeier <who...@cln.etc.bc.ca> George Perkins <ggp...@homer.louisville.edu> Geoff Shearsby <g.s...@edfac.usyd.edu.au> Les Turner <ltu...@uranus.esc.k12.in.us> Louis Van Geel <elv...@cybcobe.cybco.be> Mr. Brault is currently the chairman of the council, so he is probably the best one to contact first. k12.chat.teacher Casual conversation for teachers of grades K-12. k12.ed.art Arts & crafts curricula in K-12 education. k12.ed.business Business education curricula in grades K-12. k12.ed.comp.literacy Teaching computer literacy in grades K-12. k12.ed.health-pe Health and Physical Education curricula in grades K-12. k12.ed.life-skills Home Economics, career education, and school counseling. k12.ed.math Mathematics curriculum in K-12 education. k12.ed.music Music and Performing Arts curriculum in K-12 education. k12.ed.science Science curriculum in K-12 education. k12.ed.soc-studies Social Studies and History curriculum in K-12 education. k12.ed.special Educating students with handicaps and/or special needs. k12.ed.tag K-12 education for gifted and talented students. k12.ed.tech Industrial arts & vocational education in grades K-12. k12.lang.art The art of teaching language skills in grades K-12. k12.lang.deutsch-eng Bilingual German/English practice with native speakers. k12.lang.esp-eng Bilingual Spanish/English practice with native speakers. k12.lang.francais French practice with native speakers. k12.lang.japanese Bilingual Japanese/English ith native speakers. k12.lang.russian Bilingual Russian/English practice with native speakers. k12.library Implementing info technologies in school libraries. k12.sys.channel0 Current projects. k12.sys.channel1 Current projects. k12.sys.channel10 Current projects. k12.sys.channel11 Current projects. k12.sys.channel12 Current projects. k12.sys.channel2 Current projects. k12.sys.channel3 Current projects. k12.sys.channel4 Current projects. k12.sys.channel5 Current projects. k12.sys.channel6 Current projects. k12.sys.channel7 Current projects. k12.sys.channel8 Current projects. k12.sys.channel9 Current projects. k12.sys.projects Discussion of potential projects. ==================================================================== 3) With the exception of those K12 groups ALL Usenet newsgroups are for ADULTS and _not_ children. Most contain material, language and discussion unsuitable for children and often incomprehensible to them so there is no way that children can interact adequately in such discussions. You should see what some of the mischievous, uncontrolled and unsupervised kids have done in and to many Usenet newsgroups...but not in "alt.ascii-art" where we have been relatively fortunate. The real problem is that alt.ascii-art comes early in the list of some 30,000 available newsgroups and kids see "funny pictures" instead of endless slabs of words they cannot even understand. So kids think " Oh goody goody...I can draw funny pictures...aha this must be a "Kids newsgroup" WRONG! It is an adults newsgroup like all the rest which have no pictures only text and discussions. 4) Perhaps many parents do not care what their children are exposed to on the Net nor on how they use it. However many other parents _do_ care and try to only allow supervised use of the Net by their chldren. A problem with modern society is that because both parents often now work there is no one at home to supervise the kids. > If you do not like listening to what the kids have to say, then > maybe you should be the one to go, not the kids. Bzzzt! Wrong again. This is NOT a newsgroup for kids...it never has been. The time to get into Usenet newsgroups is at University. Many university students get a Net account whilst they are studying there. If you want a kid's newsgroup for pictures then talk to your schoolteachers and see if a group can be set up for you in the K12 hierarchy. Also kids are welcome on most local BBSs ( Bulletin Boards ) where the Sysops ( Administrators ) who privately own the BBSs, strictly control what gets posted in them and anyone posting objectionable material or language get stopped from using the BBS. They are have strict controls because they know that many the BBS users are children. Most BBSs are free and only require a local telephone call to connect to them. As far as me being the one to go elsewher. I will say this it once again... but shouting this time..." THIS IS AN ADULTS NEWSGROUP ". I have been here in alt.ascii-art since it was created in September 1998 and I am not going away. Nope...on the contrary, if kids come in to alt.ascii-art and do or say things I do not enjoy I will very likely to tell them about it and in no uncertain words. Please understand that Net users have no obligation whatever to educate newcomers to the Net or to the adult newsgroups. Any help and advice people may choose to give is entirely unpaid and voluntary. It's cost is what you pay for it...nothing! If you think any Net user owes you anything then think again. They don't. There are many hundreds of FAQ ( Frequently Asked Questions) documents and advisory articles posted regularly every month in the "news.announce.newusers" and the "news.answers" newsgroups and newcomers should spend some months studying them. Most newsgroups do not like newbies jumping in and immediately posting articles without having got quite a few clues. Newcomers who do that can deservedly expect to be flamed. Most of this discussion is actually off-topic for this newsgroup, "alt.ascii-art", and would probably be better in "misc.kids". The problems of accessing Internet: ----------------------------------- /mmm\ /mmm\ /mmm\ (O o) (O O) (o o) U U u /mmm\ ||\ \\ / \\ . (- -) oOOo__oOOo _____oOOo ___________ __u_oOOo ############ ######### ########### ################ (BAD ANSWER) (RETRY) (ONCE MORE) (Bored & Asleep) -David Bourgin- Bye,
Colin Douthwaite wrote: > > Angel Rivera <rea...@bigfoot.com> wrote: > > >I've been gone from this group for a long time but I don't like > >coming back and finding everybody screaming at each other... people > >who *used* to get along. All this throwing hate doesn't help any. > > If you mean that people used to get along with Casso then you most > certainly have been a long time away. Yes, it was around the beginning of this year... Pete did occasionally get into trouble, but it wasn't a constant thing. > In fact I do not even remember an "Angel Rivera" or any of your work. > > When were you last here and how many postings did you contribute? http://www.dejanews.com/profile.xp?author=new...@earthling.net According to DejaNews, I posted about 200 messages (give or take a few--blame on lousy news servers). You may not remember me as "Angel Rivera" because I was posting under the name "Brock Kevin Nambo". And you probably don't remember my work because I couldn't draw any if I tried :) (I mostly came here to watch, although I *did* try a couple of times.) > I've been here continuously since September 1993 but I do miss some > postings and some never arrive here. I hate when that happens :( > Anyway, it's quite interesting to note that you have made your > re-entry to alt.ascii-art purely with a flame of your own! Huh? lol, if you mean the post this was a reply to, I was just agreeing with Lianne B., whom I know from a different group. :) (It would be a pretty pathetic flame too, lol, since I didn't even name any names or insult anyone! ;-) >>BKNambo --Muke! ^^^^^^^^^ <again the double bit> ^^^^^^^ -- "The reason why Mr. Gates is so rich and everyone else isn't is because everyone else keeps giving him their money. Pretty sweet deal, huh?" --The Internet Oracle http://mc11a.southern.edu/ ICQ:1936556 mailto:rea...@bigfoot.com http://welcome.to/alt.binaries.games.creatures -Visit the abgc archive!
Colin Douthwaite wrote: > > Lianne <emi...@columbus.rr.com> wrote: > >Colin, > > > I have come out of lurk mode to try to make a point. One of the > > greatest things about the Internet is its great diversity. That > > includes age. The Internet has provided a great place to get > > information from, and many kids log on every day to get information > > for homework or to chat with their friends. Newsgroups are another > > one of the great things that comes with the Internet. They provide a > > chance to share things with other people across the world and to > > get the opinions and ideas from them. If you do not like listening > > to what the kids have to say, then maybe you should be the one to > >go, not the kids. > > But you completely miss the major points of Net use and newsgroup > usage: > > 1) The Internet _is_ used by kids but they need to be supervised in > its use by parents/guardians and teachers/tutors. Just like everything else kids do. The Internet isn't exceptional in this regard. If a parent can trust their kid with, (for example) cable television, that's their prerogative. And if they feel they are mature enough for the Internet, they have that right as well. > 2) There is a K12 hierarchy of newsgroups specifically for schools > to help children of school age to learn to use the Net under > teacher supervision and training. So where do K-12 kids go after learning to use the Net? > 3) With the exception of those K12 groups ALL Usenet newsgroups are > for ADULTS and _not_ children. 'Children' is a subjective term, unless you are an ageist. (And the Internet is no place for ageism.) > Most contain material, language and discussion unsuitable for > children and often incomprehensible to them so there is no way > that children can interact adequately in such discussions. So they will interact adequately in discussions where the material, language and discussion are suitable and/or comprehensible to them, won't they? Like our home alt.games.creatures. :) > You should see what some of the mischievous, uncontrolled and > unsupervised kids have done in and to many Usenet newsgroups...but > not in "alt.ascii-art" where we have been relatively fortunate. What a kid can do on Usenet is nothing compared to what an adult with the same amount of net.knowledge can do. Perhaps you've heard of these people. Perhaps you haven't. (Try alt.usenet.kooks, IIRC, for a discussion of them, or perhaps news.admin.net-abuse.usenet...) > The real problem is that alt.ascii-art comes early in the list of > some 30,000 available newsgroups and kids see "funny pictures" > instead of endless slabs of words they cannot even understand. > So kids think " Oh goody goody...I can draw funny pictures...aha > this must be a "Kids newsgroup" > WRONG! It is an adults newsgroup like all the rest which have > no pictures only text and discussions. That is very strange. I've never seen a kid talk like that after they turn five years old. My little sister couldn't even read or write at that age, how could she wreak havoc on the Net, then, or have it wreak havoc on her? (She is older now... in high school.) [snip] > > If you do not like listening to what the kids have to say, then > > maybe you should be the one to go, not the kids. > > Bzzzt! Wrong again. This is NOT a newsgroup for kids...it never > has been. The time to get into Usenet newsgroups is at University. So? University is not an age, it is a place. I was a kid when I started University and I still am now, (a measly one year later.) > Many university students get a Net account whilst they are studying > there. So? What if they get their Net account earlier? Our university gave free, *full* access to all students in elementary and high school. [snip] > Also kids are welcome on most local BBSs ( Bulletin Boards ) where > the Sysops ( Administrators ) who privately own the BBSs, strictly > control what gets posted in them and anyone posting objectionable > material or language get stopped from using the BBS. They are have > strict controls because they know that many the BBS users are > children. Not around here anyway! When I was on BBSs, way before I got Internet, every single BBS sysop I met was surprised I was online at my age. > As far as me being the one to go elsewher. I will say this it once > again... but shouting this time..." THIS IS AN ADULTS NEWSGROUP ". There's that ageism again! 'Adult' is a frame of mind, not an age, *especially* when you're in a place like the Internet where you can be any age you tell people you are! (Same thing for 'kid'.) > I have been here in alt.ascii-art since it was created in September > 1998 and I am not going away. ??? I'll assume that date is a typo. > Nope...on the contrary, if kids come in to alt.ascii-art and do or > say things I do not enjoy I will very likely to tell them about it > and in no uncertain words. But otherwise, you won't say anything. In most cases, you won't even *know* they are kids until they tell you. > Please understand that Net users have no obligation whatever to > educate newcomers to the Net or to the adult newsgroups. Any help > and advice people may choose to give is entirely unpaid and voluntary. > It's cost is what you pay for it...nothing! It sounds like you are supporting the Endless September. :;shudder;: > There are many hundreds of FAQ ( Frequently Asked Questions) > documents and advisory articles posted regularly every month in the > "news.announce.newusers" and the "news.answers" newsgroups and > newcomers should spend some months studying them. Been there, done that, I've helped *write* FAQs. > Most of this discussion is actually off-topic for this newsgroup, > "alt.ascii-art", and would probably be better in "misc.kids". Nope, misc.kids isn't in the k12.* hierarchy, and you don't want us there. --Muke! (Amazingly, 4000 posts to USENET in one year) -- It's always darkest before dawn. So if you're going to steal the neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it. http://mc11a.southern.edu/ ICQ:1936556 mailto:rea...@bigfoot.com http://welcome.to/alt.binaries.games.creatures -Visit the abgc archive!
Angel Rivera wrote: > > Lianne wrote: > > > > Colin, > > > > I have come out of lurk mode to try to make a point. One of the > > greatest things about the Internet is its great diversity. That > > includes age. The Internet has provided a great place to get > > information from, and many kids log on every day to get information > > for homework or to chat with their friends. Newsgroups are another one > > of the great things that comes with the Internet. > > They provide a chance to share things with other people across the > > world and to get the opinions and ideas from them. If you do not like > > listening to what the kids have to say, then maybe you should be the > > one to go, not the kids. > > Amen!! Welcome back, Angel Rivera! Since then, Colin has set the world record of 41 flames a day. We should all be proud that he accomplished this remarkable feat here on aaa. ========================================================= [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] =========================================================
On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 01:37:17 GMT, sdi...@netlane.com (Shanaka Dias) wrote: >Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> wrote: >> >>> The difference between intelligence and wisdom is >>> that the intelligent man knows WHAT to say, while >>> the wise man knows WHEN to say it. >> >>Is that your own original quotable quote or is it an existing quote >>you got from somewhere? >> > >Nope, not mine, and I don't have the source. >I don't remember where the one below came from either: >"Intelligence is knowing that smoking is bad for your health. Wisdom >is not smoking." OK then, let's see if anyone in the newsgroup "alt.quotations" knows the sources. Bye,
In article <362...@columbus.rr.com>, Lianne <emi...@columbus.rr.com> writes >Colin, > > I have come out of lurk mode to try to make a point. One of the greatest >things about the Internet is its great diversity. That includes age. The >Internet has provided a great place to get information from, and many kids log >on every day to get information for homework or to chat with their friends. >Newsgroups are another one of the great things that comes with the Internet. >They provide a chance to share things with other people across the world and to >get the opinions and ideas from them. If you do not like listening to what the >kids have to say, then maybe you should be the one to go, not the kids. > >~Lianne, 14~ > [][ hi ... (i know that this was addressed to Colin) but ... thank you for such a nice and polite posting :) all children using these services are required to be polite to all the other people here (just like the adults) and not to spit in peoples faces when they dissagree with something or if they receive mixed praise and/or sharp critique. they would find it helpful to learn to take it like an adult with good grace and not to cry. i have a 14 year old son ... i should like to think that he does not go out being impolite to people and vandalizing things that others hold in esteem. ___|/__ ___)\ /______ \ \|(___ | //_ ___\| | (/ _\\ | | \\| | |/_ \\ | //__ \) | // | |// ______) | (/ \ \| | \ \ | \_) | | | | | | | | | ________//||\\______ 4sep98,12oct98 [ps] no offence meant with this:- do you have an adult proof read what you send (eg: scanned for impropriety) ? [][ see yuz [][ colin -- ( () /_ / /\) _/ /? .\ /\) /) .\ /_ /_ CJRandall http://www.shieldwolf.demon.co.uk
Spunk1111 <spu...@aol.com> wrote: >><908...@mnementh.southern.co.nz> >>>Nope. English is the only language I know where 'Angel' is a woman's >>>name, and I am not of English (or even Caucasian) descent. >> >>Ah, then you must be a _real_ Angel? >Angel is a very common Latin male name-- even in >the US. With all the nagging, it would seem that this NG >is becoming a bunch of women who are PMSing... " PMSing" ? You've got me guessing there. There does seem to be a lot more females in alt.ascii-art these days compared with 1993/1996. Some of the early talent, like Susie Oviatt, finally pulled out because she got too upset about her name being constantly stripped from her pictures...and that was in the early days... it's nothing new. > Now can't we bring back the aaa we used to know? SOAPBOX MODE: ON Nope, I don't think we can. This newsgroup has always been a bit of a rough and tumble from its very earliest days and it still goes through those patches. The dedicated users ride it out whilst others drift away. The old aaa I used to know was never very settled or peaceful for very long. The group has had many faces in 5 years. It is a real joy when you first find the group...but the magic diminishes with time. The moderated group, rec.arts.ascii, was created to solve all the problems we experience in alt.ascii-art but it does not work because what users truly wanted was for the moderator to disallow all the things that annoyed them personally as _individuals_. Bob Allison, to ensure the vote passed, personally promised to be a light-handed and benign moderator, but once the group was successfully created that policy did not please people, and I know, that behind the scenes of rec.arts.ascii, Allison got so much criticism...from too many people...who were initial enthusiasts for the moderated newsgroup...and they stopped posting and departed. And so Allison just gave up totally demoralised and burnt-out by the experience. He had expended a tremendous amount of energy, time and enthusiasm into creating the newsgroup, writing FAQs, establishing archives and FTP sites and all the rest. But the bottom line is that people are fickle and too many do not respect the freely given voluntary work and time of others. It is often said that people place the least value on things they get absolutely free...but of course nothing is really free...it is a cost to the giver. I upset Allison by saying, from the outset of the proposal, that a moderated group simply would not work for Ascii Art because it is a subject which needs to allow free expression. But, of course, there is a price to pay for allowing a free-for-all environment. At that time I was flamed to a crisp by respected regulars of alt.ascii-art. In the early days of alt.ascii-art users used to scream about GIFs and greyscale conversions, animations, non-ascii characters and pixellated stuff and they screamed about endless repetitive requests for Roses, Birthday Cakes and Beavis & Butthead. Today, the scenario has vastly changed. There has been an explosion of newbie users who are concerned with their "rights" rather than privileges in using the Net and newsgroups, and a diminishing number of newbies are willing to study the basic documents on Net use found in the newsgroups "news.announce.newusers" and "news.newusers.questions" and the hundreds of newsgroup FAQs poste monthly in news.answers and the other *.answers newsroups. Nope, the newbies including kids, jump into newsgroups and expect to be catered for and educated _as of right_ and have all their questions answered quickly by users ofthe newsgroup. If they get a hostile response then they become abusive and claim they have rights rather than privileges. This can only get worse as the Net grows at such a phenomenal rate. So, your personal approach, and that of some other users here, of trying to post pictures and comment about those pictures, together with totally avoiding, without fail, any response to trolls and disruptive postings will keep alt.ascii-art as healthy as possible. Too many newcomers and relative newcomers fail to ignore flamewars and once those people break their silence the damage is done and if old users fail to advise them to stop responding...the trolls and flames and aggro just continues. Some newbies make their very first post a criticism/flame of what they have found in the newsgroup they have just entered. SOAPBOX MODE: OFF _.-._ | | | |_ ...talk to the hand... | | | | | _ | | | | | \`\| '-._ | \ \`-.'-._; \ ' | \ .` / jgs | | Thanks but no thanks! :-) " I talk to the trees...but they don't listen to me." 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On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 01:35:29 -0400, Angel Rivera <rea...@bigfoot.com> wrote: >http://www.dejanews.com/profile.xp?author=new...@earthling.net >According to DejaNews, I posted about 200 messages (give or take a >few--blame on lousy news servers). >You may not remember me as "Angel Rivera" because I was posting under >the name "Brock Kevin Nambo". And you probably don't remember my work >because I couldn't draw any if I tried :) (I mostly came here to watch, >although I *did* try a couple of times.) Er...what actually happened did you have a sex change? Whatever...if you didn't post any piccies what on earth were your 200 postings to alt.ascii-art all about? As another user pointed out this group is mainly for pics, do you see it as a chatroom? >I was just agreeing with Lianne B., whom I know from a different >group. :) Oh you two _know_ each other? That sounds ominous...couple more Trolls perhaps come to plague us all here in alt.ascii-art? Lianne doesn't seem to have much of a clue, a 14 year old child who asks rudimentary questions, and is a ME TOO poster too, whose first post after lurking was a flame at poor ol' much-maligned li'l me. <sniffle>. If you and Lianne are in fact trolling...please go away...we do not need any more trolls here of any age or sex. >(It would be a pretty pathetic flame too, lol, since I didn't even name >any names or insult anyone! ;-) Huh? Your post was directed at poor l'il ol' me. Flames don't necessarily have to include insults but John Stanley claims that even a smiley :-) can be an insult. ) ( ( ( ( ) () @@ ) (( ( ( ( )( @@ ( )) ) ( //////// ( ( ( ()( /---\ (()( ( |:: \ | ) ) )(@ !O O! )@@ ( ) ) ) |( = \ @@@@@@@@@@@@@)( ()@ \ o / (@@@@@ ( ()( ) | ^ /_| @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ((@@(@@ !o! @@@@(@@@@@)() ( \ (_@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@)@@)@ /---\-/---\ )@@@@@()( ) | /_ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@)@@@( // /-----\ \\ @@@)@@@@@( . / ~~~ \ @@@@@@@@@@@@@(@@@ // @ /---\ @ \\ @(@@@(@@@ . . | ( \ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ O @@@ /-\ @@@ O @@(@@)@@ @ . | \ | @@@@@@@@@@ !! @@@@ % @@@@ !! @@)@@@ .. . \ \ | . @@@@@@ !! @@ /---\ @@ !! @@(@@@ @ . . \ \------. ) . @@ /MM /\O O/\ MM\ @@@@@@@. . |\_______|_)) ( . @ !!! !! \-/ !! !!! @@@@@ . ---------- ) . . @@@@ !! !! .(. @. .. . | |-\ \ ( / .( . \)). ( !! )( !! @@@@ . ) . | | \ \ ) ( )). (( .) !O ((( O! @@ (. ((. . . | | \ \ )) .( ( ( ) ). ( !! )( !! ) (( )) .. | | / / ) ( ) ).) (( !! ( !!\( )) ((. ). | | / / )) .( ( ( ) ). ( !! )( !! ) (( )) .. | |_< / ) ) (( ) )).) ((/ | ( | \( )) ((. ). ___<_____\\__\__ _____ __((_(____))__(_(___.oooO_____Oooo.(_(_)_)((_ -cfbd/after others- Consider yourself to have been verbally flamed but I will not add insult to injury by adding a smiley. Toodle-oo,
Angel Rivera <rea...@bigfoot.com> wrote: >Colin Douthwaite wrote: >> Er...what actually happened did you have a sex change? >Nope. English is the only language I know where 'Angel' is a woman's >name, and I am not of English (or even Caucasian) descent. Ah, then you must be a _real_ Angel? That could explain your use of pseudonyms which could be male or female. Few real Angels are known by their names...but I have never heard of of the Angels "Rivera" or "Nambo". A real Angel: c=< | | ////\ 1@2 @@ | /___\** @@@2 @@@ | |~L~ |* @@@@@@ @@@@@ | \=_/8 @@@@1@@ @@@@@@| _ /| |\__ @@@@@@@@2 1@@@@@@|\ \___/) @@1@@@@@2 2@@@@@ | \ \ / | @@@@@@2 2@@@@ |_ > <|__ @@1@12 @@@@ / _| / \/ \ @@1@ @@ / |^\/ | | @@1 / / ---- \ \\\= @@ \___/ -------- ~~ @@@ -Nina Butorac- @@ | | | | -- @@ St. Michael the Archangel [...snip...] > I'd rather not go through age or sex here myself, thank you. If you stay here then that's inevitable, they are both parts of life which none of us can escape either here or anywhere. [...snip...] A female angel... | .\`|'/, --- * --- '/,|.\` | .-"~. ,;;;, ,~"-. { \ ((()(() / } {' \();o,o*()/ `} { ((); v ;(() } {' ,(((;-`-'-;((), `} `{ ((() , , ((() }' `{ : :_,|._; : }' {' `---'*`---': `} {' / / | \ \ `} ( / / " \ \ ) `-..-' //; |\ `-..-' )) )) (/ \\ -Rob Pomeroy- (*;~*:~*;~*;~*) (~*~*~*~*~*~*~*;) (*;*~;*;`*;`*;~;*) (''; \' ``) '' \' >> >(It would be a pretty pathetic flame too, lol, since I didn't even > >name any names or insult anyone! ;-) >> >> Huh? Your post was directed at poor l'il ol' me. >Really? >Here's the post I was referring to. >>>Amen!! >>> >>>I've been gone from this group for a long time but I don't like coming >>>back and finding everybody screaming at each other... people who *used* >>>to get along. All this throwing hate doesn't help any. > If you'll notice, I did not mention your name in my original post. > The reason for that is that I was not referring to you. But you said "finding everybody screaming at each other" which just ^^^^^^^^^ has to mean l'il ol' me. Perhaps you're not really here for the pictures but for your debate and arguments which are quite good and methinks you should do well in chat/discussion groups...I reckon you could argue the hind leg off a donkey? *8-) /\ /\ ( \\ // ) \ \\ // / \_\\||||//_/ \/ _ _ \ \/|(O)(O)| \/ | | ___________________\/ \ / // // |____| // || / \ //| \| \ 0 0 / // \ ) V / \____/ // \ / ( / "" \ /_________| |_/ / /\ / | || _ _ _ / / / / \ || /_/ _ _ _ / | | | || | | | || |_| |_|| \_\ \_\\ Hard'96 Whatever...you celebrated your return with a hiss, and a roar, and a flame...so no wonder Mr. Casso was quick to welcome you back. Mr. Casso enjoys it when anybody and everybody he dislikes gets flamed...but take care not to flame Mr. Casso or his supporters/admirers... he'll send his " toothless sucking frogs " to bite you. A male angel... ----o- _____________ %%% , ,%_________ (___________,,) %c >) ,________) (_________,,) ) = ,______) (_____,,)/ _/__,,____) / \ \__/ /\ /\ | \/\ /__\|' , / \, < - '====o==, /_\ / /` |\ __ \ /__,_/ | _/, \____\ // | \/ \ \\ _( \ \ \ \ _/ \ //| \ \ \ |/| < ` _\ -) / |_/ | | / |_/ / _, ' /| \/ \_,--., '( )' / | | \ |,/ \,/ b'ger HooRoo,
><908...@mnementh.southern.co.nz> >>Nope. English is the only language I know where 'Angel' is a woman's >>name, and I am not of English (or even Caucasian) descent. > >Ah, then you must be a _real_ Angel? Angel is a very common Latin male name-- even in the US. With all the nagging, it would seem that this NG is becoming a bunch of women who are PMSing... -=[ male angel ]=- .--------. <<<<*>>>> .--------. / .-----. \ ,#####, / .-----. \ / /{{{{{{{`. \ #_ _# / .`}}} }}}\ \ / /{{ {{{ {{ ".\|6` `6|/."}} }}}} }}\ \ { {{ {{{ {{{{ {{;| u |;} }} }} }} }}} } { {{{{ {{{{ {{{{ \ = /}}} }} }} }}} } } { { {{{ {{{{{ {{{|\___/|} }} }} }}}} }} } { {{{ {{{ {{____/: :\____}}}}}} }}} } { {{{{.'"""`.-===-\ /-===-.`"""'.}} } } { {{{/ ""-.-"" \}}} } jgs \ \/' '\/ / -=[ angel blowing horn ]=- ______ '-._ ```"""---.._ ,-----.:___ `\ ,;;;, '-.._ ```"""--.._ |,%%%%%% _ , '. `\;;;; -\ _ _.'/\ .' `-.__ \ ,;;;;" .__{=====/_)==:_ || ,===/ ```";,,,,,,,;;;;;'`-./.____,'/ / '.\/ '---/ ';;;;;;;;' `--.._.' / ,===/ '-. `\/ '---/ ,'`. | ; __.-' \ ,' jgs \______,,.....------'''`` `---` Now can't we bring back the aaa we used to know? -joan -- _.-._ | | | |_ ...talk to the hand... | | | | | _ | | | | | joan stark \`\| '-._ | spu...@juno.com \ \`-.'-._; \ ' | ASCII ART GALLERY \ .` / http://www.ascii-art.com/ jgs | |
Spunk1111 wrote: > > ><908...@mnementh.southern.co.nz> > >>Nope. English is the only language I know where 'Angel' is a > >>woman's name, and I am not of English (or even Caucasian) descent. > > > >Ah, then you must be a _real_ Angel? > > Angel is a very common Latin male name-- even in > the US. Yep-- Exactly right. > With all the nagging, it would seem that this NG > is becoming a bunch of women who are PMSing... LOL! :) _ ,I do NOT have PMS! <o> ]"} H `-V-' / \ /_\ --Muke! -- Why did the blonde scale the chain-link fence? (To see what was on the other side!) ICQ:1936556 http://mc11a.southern.edu/ -Personal [non-C1/C2] homepage http://welcome.to/alt.binaries.games.creatures -Visit the abgc archive!
joris bellenger <svz...@xs4all.nl> wrote: >Colin Douthwaite wrote: >[snip] >> >> >> Too many newcomers and relative newcomers fail to ignore flamewars >> and once those people break their silence the damage is done and if old >> users fail to advise them to stop responding...the trolls and flames >> and aggro just continues. Some newbies make their very first post a >> criticism/flame of what they have found in the newsgroup they have >> just entered. >> >???? then, why did you flame me when I told Tweeter to mind her >own business ???? >She was a newcomer, she was flaming and you supported her. Right? >Tttt Tttt.... There are several answers to your question, though you may well not like any of them: - It seemed to me that Tweeter was doing a much needed job which some other group users were doing either ineffectively or not doing at all. - Your own methods of handling of the Casso problem seemed to have the effect of mainly encouraging him rather than the opposite, so...I labelled you a Cassophile...knowing full well that I would get flamed for that in return. - I have scarcely ever, if indeed ever, seen you flame any of the many newcomers to alt.ascii-art who come here either criticising or flaming or bitching and offering nothing else. Tweeter clearly was someone who _really_ "got your goat", whereas the rest have largely passed you by with scarcely a murmur from you. ( Cue for an ObAscii? ): ObAscii: GOAT (\ (\ \\ \\ __))____))__ '\_ """" _/` (-s s-) ,\ / _ - - - - - - - - - - ' ,\ / __- , "" / , ) | ) / | / _ _ _ _ \ /\ / PADDY McGINTY'S / _/ / - - - |/ |/ GOAT | / | / )> )> | | | | |/ |/ | / |/ -cfbd- || (\ || (\ (\ (\ - I really expect you to do what I advise you to do...rather than do what I personally actually do ( which you don't agree with anyway ). - There is method in a lot of my madness! I simply cannot understand how You and I don't see Eye to Eye. Can you? .%%%%. `, %%%%%%%% ,\, # d c c b |/ ? \ V / | ~ )\ \ ~~/ /_ /\ \____ __ | | __ -b'ger/cfbd- / \_/ \ / < > \ / < ______ _> \ //| \ / |\\ ______ /___/ ,___/____) ___________ \\| _______ |_\\________ / /| /____________________________________________________________ / / |____________________________________________________________|/ joris bellenger (b'ger) Colin Douthwaite (-cfbd-) But you CAN see who is the real artist though can't you? *8-) Toodle-oo,
Colin Douthwaite wrote: [snip] > > > Too many newcomers and relative newcomers fail to ignore flamewars > and once those people break their silence the damage is done and if old > users fail to advise them to stop responding...the trolls and flames > and aggro just continues. Some newbies make their very first post a > criticism/flame of what they have found in the newsgroup they have > just entered. > ???? then, why did you flame me when I told Tweeter to mind her own business ???? She was a newcomer, she was flaming and you supported her. Right? Tttt Tttt.... -- `, ,\, # |/ ? | ~ )\ /_ /\ \____ joris bellenger (b'ger) / \_/ \ e-mail: svz...@xs4all.nl http://www.xs4all.nl/~svzanten/joris/ascii/main.html / < ______ _> \ /___/ ,___/____) |\/
.----- On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:31:16 +0500, temp posted: |Thanks sarah, I am very brite, and I am sure I will be better at |creating ASCII art with experiance. This, what these "adults" are |showing is imaturity in themselves, taking automatically to conclusion |that we, as 13 yr olds, are stupider then them, and we can not do just |as god, or BETTER work them them. This, is just as bad as racism or |sexism, maybe there is such a thing as ageism. '----------------------- There is indeed, temp, and for a select few of the adults here (No names mentioned) what they are saying is ageist and isn`t really very nice... but unfortunately there is nothing you can do. Just get on and make some nice pictures that I can 'WOW!' at - and keep those 'I have made a pic and need some help' postings coming too... it's the main way to improve at ascii art. I look forward to seeing what kind of pics you can come up with... remember what I said - the 'REQ: ...' postings! :o) Have fun, Martin. |\/| _..__|_o._ /\_|_| o._ _ mart.atkins@-- | |(_|| |_|| | /--\|_|<|| |_> --bigfoot.com
sandra van zanten wrote: > > Pete Casso wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > > > Colin is the anti-Christ ... uh, anti-Casso, everything else gets rationalized > > somehow ... well, good that you and I don't subscribe to any holy books ... > > > > > > My gawd... He thinks of Himself as a martyr now! > -- > > `, > ,\, # > |/ ? > | ~ )\ > /_ /\ \____ joris bellenger (b'ger) > / \_/ \ e-mail: svz...@xs4all.nl > http://www.xs4all.nl/~svzanten/joris/ascii/main.html > / < ______ _> \ > /___/ ,___/____) > |\/ Ah well, it's nearly twothousand years ago, maybe we should hammer another one to a cross, just to make sure... ,-. __|o|__ [`-"Y"-'] ""|A|"" |H| . | | -+- --| |-----!----- -- ____ Time : Tue Oct 20 14:52:33 1998 .X+. . .Xx+-. . Stupidity cannot be cured with money, or through XXx++-.. education, or by legislation. Stupidity is not a sin, the XXxx++--.. victim can't help being stupid. But stupidity is the only `XXXxx+++--' universal capital crime; the sentence is death, there is `XXXxxx' no appeal, and execution is carried out automatically and "" without pity. Lazarus Long (56)
sandra van zanten <svz...@xs4all.nl> wrote: >Colin Douthwaite wrote: >> joris bellenger <svz...@xs4all.nl> wrote: >> >> >Colin Douthwaite wrote: >> >[snip] >> >> >> ( Cue for an ObAscii? ): >> >> ObAscii: GOAT >> >> (\ (\ >> \\ \\ >> __))____))__ >> '\_ """" _/` >> (-s s-) >> ,\ / >> _ - - - - - - - - - - ' ,\ / >> __- , "" >> / , >> ) | ) / >> | / _ _ _ _ \ /\ / PADDY McGINTY'S >> / _/ / - - - |/ |/ GOAT >> | / | / )> )> >> | | | | |/ |/ >> | / |/ -cfbd- || (\ >> || (\ (\ >> (\ >nice goat :) Thanks. :-) Patrick McGinty wasn't too impressed though: " Now Patrick McGinty, an Irishman of note Fell in for a fortune and bought himself a goat. Said he: 'Sure o' goat's milk I'm going to have m' fill.' But when he got it home he found the Nanny was a Bill." -- Irish folk song >> - I really expect you to do what I advise you to do...rather than do >> what I personally actually do ( which you don't agree with anyway ). > "Do what I say, don't do what I do" This doesn't give you > much credibility I'm affraid. Be neither afraid nor affrayed. My credibility is constantly at risk...as indeed it should be...and also so should everyone' elses who post messages on the Net. Later,
sandra van zanten...um..ur...Joris... wrote: > -- > I don't know if I'm an ageist > but I sure am an atheist. > / > `, > ,\, # > |/ ? > | ~ )\ > /_ /\ \____ joris bellenger (b'ger) > / \_/ \ e-mail: svz...@xs4all.nl > http://www.xs4all.nl/~svzanten/joris/ascii/main.html > / < ______ _> \ > /___/ ,___/____) > |\/ <aol> ME TOO!! </aol> /"\ (o o) \"/ \ ____________________ _ /"\ | | (If snakes could talk) / \(o o) | | (They probly wouldnt) | | \"/ \ | | (waste thier time) | | | | \ _______ | | (trying to get you) | | | | (I agree) | | (to eat apples) | | | | """"""" | | """"""""""""" | | | | \ \_______________________/ / | | \_________________________/ / / ___________________________/ / ####____________________________/ -- <`.THE PRINCE ,'> `.`/""""""\,',' SEE HIS ( / \ \' SEE HIS FACE \/-- <>\/ SMILE / W \ ,'\_|||||_/`. ,',' ||| `.`.kro...@gtcom.net <,' TIME TO DIE `.>Remove no.to.spam to reply
joris bellenger wrote: > > Colin Douthwaite wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > > > Too many newcomers and relative newcomers fail to ignore flamewars > > and once those people break their silence the damage is done and if old > > users fail to advise them to stop responding...the trolls and flames > > and aggro just continues. Some newbies make their very first post a > > criticism/flame of what they have found in the newsgroup they have > > just entered. > > > > ???? then, why did you flame me when I told Tweeter to mind her > own business ???? > She was a newcomer, she was flaming and you supported her. Right? > > Tttt Tttt.... Colin is the anti-Christ ... uh, anti-Casso, everything else gets rationalized somehow ... well, good that you and I don't subscribe to any holy books ... ========================================================= [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] =========================================================
Martin Atkins <zne...@ovtsbbg.pbz> wrote: >.----- On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:31:16 +0500, temp posted: >|Thanks sarah, I am very brite, and I am sure I will be better at >|creating ASCII art with experiance. This, what these "adults" are >|showing is imaturity in themselves, taking automatically to conclusion >|that we, as 13 yr olds, are stupider then them, and we can not do just >|as god, or BETTER work them them. This, is just as bad as racism or >|sexism, maybe there is such a thing as ageism. >'----------------------- >There is indeed, temp, and for a select few of the adults here (No names >mentioned) what they are saying is ageist and isn`t really very nice... but >unfortunately there is nothing you can do. >Just get on and make some nice pictures that I can 'WOW!' at - and keep >those 'I have made a pic and need some help' postings coming too... it's the >main way to improve at ascii art. >I look forward to seeing what kind of pics you can come up with... remember >what I said - the 'REQ: ...' postings! :o) ( You obviously have not read all of Temp's postings! ) If, by misfortune, "Temp" (age 13) does return...let us hope he has lernt to spel and rite betta text messiges in intelligible English. Can't remember seeing any pictures yet, only pea-brain questions; requests for help and advice ( coz he sez he d'unt know wot to draw ); and then abuse when he gets flamed or doesn't get what he deserves. What we need here is _a majority of users_ in that category and age group to make alt.ascii-art a really lively newsgroup for crap art and kindergarten behaviour and language - which can only be responded too effectively at a similar level to ensure reader understanding. It often descends to playground lanquage like f*** off; p*** off; s***head etc etc. ObAscii: " NAH NA NA NAH-NA !!! " oooo$$$$$$$$$$$$oooo oo$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$o oo$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$o o$ $$ o$ o $ oo o$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$o $$ $$ $$o$ oo $ $ "$ o$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$o $$$o$$o$ "$$$$$$o$ o$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$o $$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ """$$$ "$$$""""$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ "$$$ $$$ o$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ "$$$o o$$" $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$o $$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$" "$$$$$$ooooo$$$$o o$$$oooo$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ o$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$"$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$"""""""" """" $$$$ "$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$" o$$$ "$$$o """$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$"$$" $$$ $$$o "$$""$$$$$$"""" o$$$ $$$$o oo o$$$" "$$$$o o$$$$$$o"$$$$o o$$$$ "$$$$$oo ""$$$$o$$$$$o o$$$$"" ""$$$$$oooo "$$$o$$$$$$$$$""" ""$$$$$$$oo $$$$$$$$$$ """"$$$$$$$$$$$ -unknown- $$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$" "$$$"""" YAH !!! RAZZBERYS If you encourage these people when they arrive here then you really ought to carry the blame if the newsgroup goes that way and for any flaming that results. Of course you won't take the blame though because no one on the Net accepts responsibility or is accountable for anything. That's the Net! Posters often just enter a newsgroup, piss in the soup, and then scuttle off in disgust...usually banging the door as they leave: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ( I'll make a run ) ( for it. Leggs don't ) ( fail me now? ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ O o _______ O-O |lllllll\ > |llllllll\ @ |lllllllll\ \---oOO--Ooo----------------/ -Leggs E. Cradle - \lllllllllllllllllllllllll/ \llll LEGGS' CRADLE llll/ " The leggs that rock the \lllllllllllllllllllll/ cradle... " // \\ || || oOOO OOoo Nowadays far too many Net users thing they have Rights, rather than privileges, and accept no responsibility for their behaviour and actions...sometimes they go too far and there can be consquences. Later,
Colin Douthwaite wrote: [snip] > > > __7__ %%%,%%%%%%% > \_._/ ,'%% \\-*%%%%%%% > ( ^ ) ;%%%%%*% _%%%% > `='|\. ,%%% \(_.*%%%%. > / | % *%%, ,%%%%*( ' > (/ | %^ ,*%%% )\|,%%*%,_ > |__, | *% \/ #).-*%%* > | | _.) ,/ *%, > | | _________/)#(_____________ > /___| |_____________________b'ger| > === > > Confucius say... > > " People who live in glasshouse should not throw stones." > > TTFN, Frank Lloyd Wright should have said that. ;) -- `, ,\, # |/ ? | ~ )\ /_ /\ \____ joris bellenger (b'ger) / \_/ \ e-mail: svz...@xs4all.nl http://www.xs4all.nl/~svzanten/joris/ascii/main.html / < ______ _> \ /___/ ,___/____) |\/
Angel Rivera wrote: > 'Children' is a subjective term, unless you are an ageist. (And the > Internet is no place for ageism.) -- I don't know if I'm an ageist but I sure am an atheist. / `, ,\, # |/ ? | ~ )\ /_ /\ \____ joris bellenger (b'ger) / \_/ \ e-mail: svz...@xs4all.nl http://www.xs4all.nl/~svzanten/joris/ascii/main.html / < ______ _> \ /___/ ,___/____) |\/
Colin Douthwaite wrote: > joris bellenger <svz...@xs4all.nl> wrote: > > >Colin Douthwaite wrote: > > >[snip] > > >> > >> > >> Too many newcomers and relative newcomers fail to ignore flamewars > >> and once those people break their silence the damage is done and if old > >> users fail to advise them to stop responding...the trolls and flames > >> and aggro just continues. Some newbies make their very first post a > >> criticism/flame of what they have found in the newsgroup they have > >> just entered. > >> > > >???? then, why did you flame me when I told Tweeter to mind her > >own business ???? > >She was a newcomer, she was flaming and you supported her. Right? > > >Tttt Tttt.... > > [snip of stuff just good enough to be snipped] > > > ( Cue for an ObAscii? ): > > ObAscii: GOAT > > (\ (\ > \\ \\ > __))____))__ > '\_ """" _/` > (-s s-) > ,\ / > _ - - - - - - - - - - ' ,\ / > __- , "" > / , > ) | ) / > | / _ _ _ _ \ /\ / PADDY McGINTY'S > / _/ / - - - |/ |/ GOAT > | / | / )> )> > | | | | |/ |/ > | / |/ -cfbd- || (\ > || (\ (\ > (\ nice goat :) > > > - I really expect you to do what I advise you to do...rather than do > what I personally actually do ( which you don't agree with anyway ). > "Do what I say, don't do what I do" This doesn't give you muchcredibility I'm affraid. > - There is method in a lot of my madness! Rules, rules... they gotta have rules everywhere. > > > I simply cannot understand how You and I don't see Eye to Eye. Can you? > > .%%%%. > `, %%%%%%%% > ,\, # d c c b > |/ ? \ V / > | ~ )\ \ ~~/ > /_ /\ \____ __ | | __ > -b'ger/cfbd- / \_/ \ / < > \ > / < ______ _> \ //| \ / |\\ > ______ /___/ ,___/____) ___________ \\| _______ |_\\________ > / /| > /____________________________________________________________ / / > |____________________________________________________________|/ > joris bellenger (b'ger) Colin Douthwaite (-cfbd-) > > But you CAN see who is the real artist though can't you? *8-) Nope :) > > > Toodle-oo, -- `, ,\, # |/ ? | ~ )\ /_ /\ \____ joris bellenger (b'ger) / \_/ \ e-mail: svz...@xs4all.nl http://www.xs4all.nl/~svzanten/joris/ascii/main.html / < ______ _> \ /___/ ,___/____) |\/
Pete Casso wrote: [snip] > > > Colin is the anti-Christ ... uh, anti-Casso, everything else gets rationalized > somehow ... well, good that you and I don't subscribe to any holy books ... > > My gawd... He thinks of Himself as a martyr now! -- `, ,\, # |/ ? | ~ )\ /_ /\ \____ joris bellenger (b'ger) / \_/ \ e-mail: svz...@xs4all.nl http://www.xs4all.nl/~svzanten/joris/ascii/main.html / < ______ _> \ /___/ ,___/____) |\/
sandra van zanten <svz...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>Rules, rules... they gotta have rules everywhere.
Indeed. Amen...
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" Thou shalt not make to thyself any graven image, nor the likeness of
any thing that is in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, or in
the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down to them nor
worship them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, and visit
the sins of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth
generation of them that hate me, and show mercy unto thousands in
them that love me, and keep my commandments."
-- King James Bible
HooRoo,
sandra van zanten wrote: > > Pete Casso wrote: > > > Colin is the anti-Christ ... uh, anti-Casso, everything else gets rationalized > > somehow ... well, good that you and I don't subscribe to any holy books ... > > My gawd... He thinks of Himself as a martyr now! I am not thinking of Myself as a martyr, I am thinking of Myself as God! But then I don't exist for atheists who say: "My gawd..." ;-))) ========================================================= [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] =========================================================
Colin Douthwaite wrote: > [snip] > > > " Thou shalt not make to thyself any graven image, nor the likeness of > any thing that is in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, or in > the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down to them nor > worship them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, and visit > the sins of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth > generation of them that hate me, and show mercy unto thousands in > them that love me, and keep my commandments." > -- King James Bible > > HooRoo, "Love me and you'll go to Heaven, don't love me and you'll go to Hell" Sounds like wrath to me...damn!... "wrath" one of seven deadly sins! Ah well... "do what I say, don't do what I do" right? ...doesn't give Him much credibility either. -- `, ,\, # |/ ? | ~ )\ /_ /\ \____ joris bellenger (b'ger) / \_/ \ e-mail: svz...@xs4all.nl http://www.xs4all.nl/~svzanten/joris/ascii/main.html / < ______ _> \ /___/ ,___/____) |\/
> Sounds like wrath to me...damn!... "wrath" one of seven deadly sins! > Ah well... "do what I say, don't do what I do" right? > ...doesn't give Him much credibility either. ========================================================================= [] The 'steins - Imperfections [] [] Copyright 981021 Pete Casso [] [] [] [] HolyGhostein! Up there! [] [] Where is God? \ [] [] / )\ [] [] oo /\(" )/\ [] [] ( -) \ / [] [] (>:)> [] [] ^^ [] [] [] [] Devilstein! [] [] Where is God? [] [] \ [] [] ,, oo [] [] ( "> (- ) [] [] ,(> )> <(:<) [] [] ( ^^ ^^ [] [] Down here! [] [] [] [] Frogstein! God is just a concept! [] [] / [] [] / And therefore subject to [] [] / conceptual imperfections! [] [] oo / [] [] ( -) oo. [] [] (>:)> (- ) [] [] ^^ " " [] ========================================================================= ========================================================= [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] =========================================================
Martin Atkins <zne...@ovtsbbg.pbz> wrote: >I Apologise - I was trying to persuade temp to post pics not 'I hate you cos >you hate me' type postings. I was hoping that temp's pics would improve as >he carried on making them. (I like to think mine have! <g>) That's OK, there's a posting from Temp today saying that he is lurking and reading this newsgroup for the time being. Perhaps he will also read and study the FAQs at the same time? ============================================================================ -------The ASCII ART FAQ Ten Commandments.--------- \\\\`/// / _ _| 1/ Thou shalt read the FAQ. (\'('\/') 2/ Thou shalt not remove the ______/( >(__ Signature from any ASCII ART. /`- \ \_=__| `\ 3/ Thou shalt not claim the Ownership / /__( _____\ _____ of someone else's ASCII ART. /_ \.____ ," "." ",__ 4/ Thou shalt read the FAQ. | / _\__/_ - / \ 5/ Thou shalt ask permission \/ /____ \ASCII ART FAQ /// before using Someone else's ) / / \__\ - | ASCII ART. '-.__|_/ ///| I VI | 6/ Thou shalt not sell Someone \_ | | | else's ASCII ART. | | II VII | 7/ Thou shalt read the darn FAQ. \ | | | 8/ Thou shalt not post / | III VIII | unaccredited ASCII ART without \ | | | mentioning that you didn't make it. \_ | IV IX | 9/ Thou shalt not assume that \| | | ASCII ART isn't ART at all. | V X | 10/ Thou shalt read the FAQing FAQ. |______b'ger______| a copy of the FAQ can be found at: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373/faq.htm tutorials also available there! ============================================================================ Bye,
.----- On 20 Oct 1998 01:19:24 GMT, Colin Douthwaite posted: | |( You obviously have not read all of Temp's postings! ) | '----------------------- I have read all of the 'I have made this pic and need help' postings. .----------------------- |If, by misfortune, "Temp" (age 13) does return...let us hope he has |lernt to spel and rite betta text messiges in intelligible English. | |Can't remember seeing any pictures yet, only pea-brain questions; |requests for help and advice ( coz he sez he d'unt know wot to draw |); and then abuse when he gets flamed or doesn't get what he deserves. '----------------------- Wasn`t temp the one who made the huge 'Yahoo!' logo? Maybe I am thinking of someone else and if so I apologise. .----------------------- | |What we need here is _a majority of users_ in that category and age |group to make alt.ascii-art a really lively newsgroup for crap art |and kindergarten behaviour and language - which can only be |responded too effectively at a similar level to ensure reader |understanding. It often descends to playground lanquage like f*** |off; p*** off; s***head etc etc. | |If you encourage these people when they arrive here then you really |ought to carry the blame if the newsgroup goes that way and for any |flaming that results. '----------------------- I Apologise - I was trying to persuade temp to post pics not 'I hate you cos you hate me' type postings. I was hoping that temp's pics would improve as he carried on making them. (I like to think mine have! <g>) .----------------------- |Of course you won't take the blame though because no one on the Net |accepts responsibility or is accountable for anything. That's the Net! '----------------------- Hmmm. .----------------------- |Posters often just enter a newsgroup, piss in the soup, and then |scuttle off in disgust...usually banging the door as they leave: | |Nowadays far too many Net users thing they have Rights, rather than |privileges, and accept no responsibility for their behaviour and |actions...sometimes they go too far and there can be consquences. '----------------------- Yes, I see your point. I`ll be more careful with who I encourage in future. Thoughtfully..... -Martin |\/| _..__|_o._ /\_|_| o._ _ mart.atkins@-- | |(_|| |_|| | /--\|_|<|| |_> --bigfoot.com
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