Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 12 Oct 1998.
conversion - planet/sphere
alt.ascii-art
· 28 messages · 12 Oct 1998 - 26 Oct 1998
Lester5374 wrote: > > Conversion by Lester - AMC > .d$#T!!!~"#*b. > d$MM!!!!~~~ "h > dRMMM!!!~ ^k > $RMM!!~ ? > $MMM!~ " > $MM!! 9 > 4RM!! F > $!!! J > 9!!~ F > 'k~~ : > 3> F > 9> F > "i :" > t. .P > #c. .z# > ^#*heee*#" > > .-~~-. > (_^..^_) > Lester||||AMC > > -- > http://members.aol.com/lester5374/index.htm - Ansi home page > FTP://members.aol.com/lester5374/ansi - To D/L ANSI and ASCII files. Oh, I take it you don't like the sphere in my sig then ?=) -- ____ Time : Mon Oct 12 13:04:25 1998 .X+. . .Xx+-. . A fake fortuneteller can be tolerated. But an authentic XXx++-.. soothsayer should be shot on sight. Cassandra did not get XXxx++--.. half the kicking around she deserved. Lazarus Long (9) `XXXxx+++--' `XXXxxx' ""
In article <362...@lunatech.com>, "Ojosh!ro" <ojo...@lunatech.com> writes: >From: "Ojosh!ro" <ojo...@lunatech.com> >Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:12:12 +0200 > >Lester5374 wrote: >> >> Conversion by Lester - AMC >> .d$#T!!!~"#*b. >> d$MM!!!!~~~ "h >> dRMMM!!!~ ^k >> $RMM!!~ ? >> $MMM!~ " >> $MM!! 9 >> 4RM!! F >> $!!! J >> 9!!~ F >> 'k~~ : >> 3> F >> 9> F >> "i :" >> t. .P >> #c. .z# >> ^#*heee*#" >> >> .-~~-. >> (_^..^_) >> Lester||||AMC >> >> -- >> http://members.aol.com/lester5374/index.htm - Ansi home page >> FTP://members.aol.com/lester5374/ansi - To D/L ANSI and ASCII files. > >Oh, I take it you don't like the sphere in my sig then ?=) > >-- > ____ Time : Mon Oct 12 13:04:25 1998 > .X+. . >.Xx+-. . A fake fortuneteller can be tolerated. But an authentic >XXx++-.. soothsayer should be shot on sight. Cassandra did not get >XXxx++--.. half the kicking around she deserved. Lazarus Long (9) >`XXXxx+++--' > `XXXxxx' > "" I like your sig! It's great, and I'm sure it's not a conversion, this took almost no effort for me. I just thought since I was posting everything I've done recently, I'd post the conversions too. :) .-~~-. (_^..^_) Lester||||AMC -- http://members.aol.com/lester5374/index.htm - Ansi home page FTP://members.aol.com/lester5374/ansi - To D/L ANSI and ASCII files.
Well, Lester, I grabbed your pic to experiment with in a script I'm writing...
( for creating ASCII-animations, yes, back off Pete Casso!, I won't post the
script here! )
Have to find some solution for non-transparent spaces and your Sphere/planet has
quite
a lot of those in it.
( Problem is, I'm working with layers and I want the program to make a
difference between
spaces inside the drawing and spaces outside the drawing, the spaces outside the
drawing
should be transparend, i.e. show the layer below... )
There, thanks!
Ojos!ro.
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____ Time : Mon Oct 12 15:10:32 1998
.X+. .
.Xx+-. . The second most preposterous notion is that copulation is
XXx++-.. inherently sinful. Lazarus Long (70)
XXxx++--..
`XXXxx+++--'
`XXXxxx'
""
>From: "Ojosh!ro" <ojo...@lunatech.com> >Well, Lester, I grabbed your pic to experiment with in a script I'm >writing... >( for creating ASCII-animations, yes, back off Pete Casso!, I won't post the >script here! ) >Have to find some solution for non-transparent spaces and your Sphere/planet >has >quite >a lot of those in it. > >( Problem is, I'm working with layers and I want the program to make a >difference between >spaces inside the drawing and spaces outside the drawing, the spaces outside >the >drawing >should be transparend, i.e. show the layer below... ) > >There, thanks! I don't know what you just said, but cool. :) .-~~-. (_^..^_) Lester||||AMC -- http://members.aol.com/lester5374/index.htm - Ansi home page FTP://members.aol.com/lester5374/ansi - To D/L ANSI and ASCII files.
Ojosh!ro wrote: > > Well, Lester, I grabbed your pic to experiment with in a script I'm writing... > ( for creating ASCII-animations, yes, back off Pete Casso!, I won't post the > script here! ) Hey, a dig out of nowhere! No, thanks, I have my own, smooth ascii animations, see my website! ========================================================= [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] =========================================================
Conversion by Lester - AMC
.d$#T!!!~"#*b.
d$MM!!!!~~~ "h
dRMMM!!!~ ^k
$RMM!!~ ?
$MMM!~ "
$MM!! 9
4RM!! F
$!!! J
9!!~ F
'k~~ :
3> F
9> F
"i :"
t. .P
#c. .z#
^#*heee*#"
.-~~-.
(_^..^_)
Lester||||AMC
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http://members.aol.com/lester5374/index.htm - Ansi home page
FTP://members.aol.com/lester5374/ansi - To D/L ANSI and ASCII files.
Pete Casso wrote: > > Ojosh!ro wrote: > > > > Well, Lester, I grabbed your pic to experiment with in a script I'm writing... > > ( for creating ASCII-animations, yes, back off Pete Casso!, I won't post the > > script here! ) > > Hey, a dig out of nowhere! No, thanks, I have my own, smooth ascii animations, > see my website! > > ========================================================= > [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] > [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] > [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] > ========================================================= I was talking ASCII-art animations, halfwit. Sod off! -- ____ Time : Tue Oct 13 11:29:11 1998 .X+. . .Xx+-. . Never crowd youngsters about their private affairs -- sex XXx++-.. especially. When they are growing up, they are nerve ends XXxx++--.. all over, and resent (quite properly) any invasion of `XXXxx+++--' their privacy. Oh, sure, they'll make mistakes -- but `XXXxxx' that's their business, not yours. (You made your own "" mistakes, did you not?) Lazarus Long (95)
Ojosh!ro <ojo...@lunatech.com> writes >Have to find some solution for non-transparent spaces > >( Problem is, I'm working with layers and I want the program to make a >difference between >spaces inside the drawing and spaces outside the drawing, the spaces outside the >drawing >should be transparend, i.e. show the layer below... ) > >There, thanks! > >Ojos!ro. > [][ hi ... o o ______/~/~/~/__ /(( o // __ ====__ /_(( o // @)) )))) ===/__(( )) ))))))) __(( \\ \) )))) __===\ _(( \\_______________==== \_(( \(( 6sep98 i too (with assistance from miK) have made some working colour ascii-animations ... using six different HTML/Javascript methods ... two of which use layers i also noticed the effect of transparency ... when layers are rendered 'visible' without being 'hidden' prior to the next layer 'visible' the area of the page where the pictures are animated is defined using CSS ... (cascading style sheets) ... so switching layers only affects that area what you could try is to have two sets of animation pictures ... one set defines the 'surround' with the 'center' clear the other defines the 'center' ... first make visible a picture from each set: 'surround','center' then make hidden the picture from the set: 'center' and repeat ... the surrounding could build-up while the center could rotate? hope this makes sense :) i havn't checkd my spelling either [][ see yuz [][ colin -- ( () /_ / /\) _/ /? .\ /\) /) .\ /_ /_ CJRandall http://www.shieldwolf.demon.co.uk
> > > ( for creating ASCII-animations, yes, back off Pete Casso!, I won't post the > > > script here! ) > > > > Hey, a dig out of nowhere! No, thanks, I have my own, smooth ascii animations, > > see my website! > > > I was talking ASCII-art animations, halfwit. > Sod off! Ah, after your long analysis, this is one class lower. ========================================================= [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] =========================================================
>From: CJRandall <col...@shieldwolf.demon.co.uk> Wouldn't making an animated GIF be easier than all of this? >i too (with assistance from miK) have made some working colour >ascii-animations >... using six different HTML/Javascript methods ... two of which use layers > >i also noticed the effect of transparency ... when layers are rendered >'visible' >without being 'hidden' prior to the next layer 'visible' > >the area of the page where the pictures are animated is defined using CSS ... >(cascading style sheets) ... so switching layers only affects that area > >what you could try is to have two sets of animation pictures ... >one set defines the 'surround' with the 'center' clear >the other defines the 'center' ... > first make visible a picture from each set: 'surround','center' > then make hidden the picture from the set: 'center' > and repeat ... >the surrounding could build-up while the center could rotate? > >hope this makes sense :) i havn't checkd my spelling either .-~~-. (_^..^_) Lester||||AMC -- http://members.aol.com/lester5374/index.htm - Ansi home page FTP://members.aol.com/lester5374/ansi - To D/L ANSI and ASCII files.
Lester5374 wrote: > >From: CJRandall <col...@shieldwolf.demon.co.uk> > > Wouldn't making an animated GIF be easier than all of this? I declare this guy to be heretic and ask he should be flamed at once. / / ) ( /( (\___/) )\ ( #) \ ('')| ( # ||___c\ > '__|| ||**** ),_/ **'| .__ |'* ___| |___*'| \_\ |' ( ~ ,)'| (( |' /(. ' .)\ | \\_|_/ <_ _____> \______________ / '-, \ / ,-' ______ \ / (// \\) __/ / \ './_____/ b'ger -- `, ,\, # |/ ? | ~ )\ /_ /\ \____ joris bellenger (b'ger) / \_/ \ e-mail: svz...@xs4all.nl http://www.xs4all.nl/~svzanten/joris/ascii/main.html / < ______ _> \ /___/ ,___/____) |\/
Lester5374 wrote: > > >From: CJRandall <col...@shieldwolf.demon.co.uk> > > Wouldn't making an animated GIF be easier than all of this? > That depends. Can you have two animated gif's on top of each other? And what about transparency? Some browsers have trouble with both of these. -- /)-._ | It may be better to be a live jackal than Y. ' _] | a dead lion, but it is better still to be ,.._ |`--"= | a live lion. And usually easier / "-/ `.\ | /) sk | |_ `\|___ | - Lazarus Long, A fictional character \:::::::\___/_\__\_______\ | created by Robert Heinlein
Martin DiViaio wrote: > > Lester5374 wrote: > > > > >From: CJRandall <col...@shieldwolf.demon.co.uk> > > > > Wouldn't making an animated GIF be easier than all of this? > > > That depends. Can you have two animated gif's on top of each other? And > what about transparency? Some browsers have trouble with both of these. > > -- > /)-._ | It may be better to be a live jackal than > Y. ' _] | a dead lion, but it is better still to be > ,.._ |`--"= | a live lion. And usually easier > / "-/ `.\ | > /) sk | |_ `\|___ | - Lazarus Long, A fictional character > \:::::::\___/_\__\_______\ | created by Robert Heinlein Well, to top it all, although I'll probably get flamed for off-topic posting... This is the result of some gamma-version. http://kwak.lunatech.com/~ojoshiro/flyby.html Have a look and give me some comment if you want (On alt.ascii_art.animation) Thx! Ojoshiro -- ____ Time : Wed Oct 14 12:50:51 1998 .X+. . .Xx+-. . A "critic" is a man who creates nothing and thereby feels XXx++-.. qualified to judge the work of creative men. There is XXxx++--.. logic in this; he is unbiased - - he hates all creative `XXXxx+++--' people equally. Lazarus Long (108) `XXXxxx' ""
>From: Martin DiViaio <mar...@erols.com> >> Wouldn't making an animated GIF be easier than all of this? >> >That depends. Can you have two animated gif's on top of each other? And >what about transparency? Some browsers have trouble with both of these. Why would you want two of them on top of each other when you would already have the whole picture in ASCII frames? And that would probably answer the transparency question. _____________________________ | | | | | | | | | | | | `-----------------------------' "What are we watching?" -Lester(~~) (~~) (~~)/ AMC _)(________)(___)(_ (~~) (~~) (~~) "Transparent film." ______)(___)(________)(_ / (~~) (~~) (~~) (~~) _)(________)(________)(___)(_ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | ||~~~~~||~~~~~||~~~~~||~~~~~~|| `' `' `' `' `' -- .-~~-. (_^..^_) Lester||||AMC *Mythos Online : Internet Magazine of Lovecraftian Horror - Dead Alice* http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/redlion/157/deadal.htm *ANSI/ASCII* http://members.aol.com/lester5374/
>True, to a point. What if you are only animating part of the picture? Or >trying to automate the animation process (i.e., telling object A to >slide to location 1?) I was asking if it was easier, I don't have the slightest idea about how java works, so I don't know. -- .-~~-. (_^..^_) Lester||||AMC *Mythos Online : Internet Magazine of Lovecraftian Horror - Dead Alice* http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/redlion/157/deadal.htm *ANSI/ASCII* http://members.aol.com/lester5374/
Lester5374 wrote: > > >From: Martin DiViaio <mar...@erols.com> > > >> Wouldn't making an animated GIF be easier than all of this? > >> > >That depends. Can you have two animated gif's on top of each other? And > >what about transparency? Some browsers have trouble with both of these. > > Why would you want two of them on top of each other when you would already > have the whole picture in ASCII frames? And that would probably answer the > transparency question. > True, to a point. What if you are only animating part of the picture? Or trying to automate the animation process (i.e., telling object A to slide to location 1?) -- /)-._ | It may be better to be a live jackal than Y. ' _] | a dead lion, but it is better still to be ,.._ |`--"= | a live lion. And usually easier / "-/ `.\ | /) sk | |_ `\|___ | - Lazarus Long, A fictional character \:::::::\___/_\__\_______\ | created by Robert Heinlein
Lester5374 <les...@aol.commander> writes > > Wouldn't making an animated GIF be easier than all of this? > > .-~~-. > (_^..^_) >Lester||||AMC > [][ aha ... i think i understand what you mean now ... gosh i'm a bit slow at the moment ... ............ _____ __ _ ............... ........... /\ \ .............. _ __ ___/ \____\ __ _ ............. / \ / / ............. _ __ /____/\/____/ __ _ ............. \ \ / ...................... _ __ \____\/ cjr_12mar98........... ..................................... i now read what you've said as :- "take snapshot images of ascii screens and stack them together into a single GIF file" well ... yes ... it could be easier with all the right tools ... i also now understand what Ojo was on about too ... ... the anim is the product of a generator to create the pictures ... ... not render them as i had first thought as for gifs ... they take too long to download for me :( so far ... i have only played with rendering techniques [][ see yuz [][ colin -- ( () /_ / /\) _/ /? .\ /\) /) .\ /_ /_ CJRandall http://www.shieldwolf.demon.co.uk
Lester5374 wrote: > Somebody wrote: > >True, to a point. What if you are only animating part of the picture? Or > >trying to automate the animation process (i.e., telling object A to > >slide to location 1?) > > I was asking if it was easier, I don't have the slightest idea about how > java works, so I don't know. > Please, animation discussions belong in alt.ascii-art.animation -- _ __ __ _ _ __ ___.--'_`. \ \ / /__ _ _ ___ _ _ (_)__ __ _ .'_`--.___ __ ( _`.'. - 'o` ) \ V / -_) '_/ _ \ ' \| / _/ _` | ( 'o` - .`.'_ ) _\.'_' _.-' \_/\___|_| \___/_||_|_\__\__,_| `-._ `_`./_ ( \`. ) //\` '/\\ ( .'/ ) \_`-'`---'\\__, uggc://jjj.yhqq.yhgu.fr/~ix/ ,__//`---'`-'_/ \` `-\ r93...@fz.yhgu.fr /-' '/ ` ascii art chat: http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/cgi/asciichat/ '
Veronica Karlsson <dre...@on.spammer> wrote: >Lester5374 wrote: >> Somebody wrote: >> >True, to a point. What if you are only animating part of the picture? Or >> >trying to automate the animation process (i.e., telling object A to >> >slide to location 1?) >> >> I was asking if it was easier, I don't have the slightest idea about how >> java works, so I don't know. >> >Please, animation discussions belong in alt.ascii-art.animation Especially long animated ones! Yada, yada, yada, yada! HeHeHe. ObAscii: _-====-__-======-__-========-_____-============-__ _( _) OO( _/_ _ _ _/_ _/_ _ _ _/_ )_ 0 (_ (__(_)(_) (__ (__(_)(_) (__ _) o0 (_ _) o '=-___-===-_____-========-___________-===-dwb-=' .o _________ . ______ ______________ | | _____ _()_||__|| ________ | | |_________| __||___||__ (BNSF 1995| | | | | __Y______00_| |_ _| /-OO----OO""="OO--OO"="OO--------OO"="OO-------OO"="OO-------OO"=P ##################################################################### Toot toot tootsie, goodbye,
.----- On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:01:45 +0200, Ojosh!ro posted: |Well, Lester, I grabbed your pic to experiment with in a script I'm writing... |( for creating ASCII-animations, yes, back off Pete Casso!, I won't post the |script here! ) |Have to find some solution for non-transparent spaces and your Sphere/planet has |quite |a lot of those in it. | '--------------------------- In TheDraw, there are spaces and real spaces (though those arn`t the real names!)... one of which is clear and the other is solid blank character. Maybe this will help you in some way!? :o) -Martin |\/| _..__|_o._ /\_|_| o._ _ mart.atkins@-- | |(_|| |_|| | /--\|_|<|| |_> --bigfoot.com
Martin Atkins wrote: > > .----- On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:01:45 +0200, Ojosh!ro posted: > |Well, Lester, I grabbed your pic to experiment with in a script I'm writing... > |( for creating ASCII-animations, yes, back off Pete Casso!, I won't post the > |script here! ) > |Have to find some solution for non-transparent spaces and your Sphere/planet has > |quite > |a lot of those in it. > | > '--------------------------- > > In TheDraw, there are spaces and real spaces (though those arn`t the real > names!)... one of which is clear and the other is solid blank character. > > Maybe this will help you in some way!? :o) > Well, I solved it, every ascii-art-file has a header now, containing title and the transparent-char The script replaces the transparent-char by a "\0". -- ____ Time : Tue Oct 20 11:37:31 1998 .X+. . .Xx+-. . Being generous is inborn; being altruistic is a learned XXx++-.. perversity. No resemblance-- Lazarus Long (146) XXxx++--.. `XXXxx+++--' `XXXxxx' ""
Ojosh!ro wrote: > > Martin Atkins wrote: > > > > .----- On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:01:45 +0200, Ojosh!ro posted: > > |Well, Lester, I grabbed your pic to experiment with in a script I'm writing... > > |( for creating ASCII-animations, yes, back off Pete Casso!, I won't post the > > |script here! ) > > |Have to find some solution for non-transparent spaces and your Sphere/planet has > > |quite > > |a lot of those in it. > > | > > '--------------------------- > > > > In TheDraw, there are spaces and real spaces (though those arn`t the real > > names!)... one of which is clear and the other is solid blank character. > > > > Maybe this will help you in some way!? :o) > > > Well, I solved it, every ascii-art-file has a header now, containing title and > the transparent-char > The script replaces the transparent-char by a "\0". Oh dear, these are just very basic techniques, look for something better on my website, although I won't post the script here either ;-)) ========================================================= [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] =========================================================
Pete Casso wrote: > > Ojosh!ro wrote: > > > > Martin Atkins wrote: > > > > > > .----- On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:01:45 +0200, Ojosh!ro posted: > > > |Well, Lester, I grabbed your pic to experiment with in a script I'm writing... > > > |( for creating ASCII-animations, yes, back off Pete Casso!, I won't post the > > > |script here! ) > > > |Have to find some solution for non-transparent spaces and your Sphere/planet has > > > |quite > > > |a lot of those in it. > > > | > > > '--------------------------- > > > > > > In TheDraw, there are spaces and real spaces (though those arn`t the real > > > names!)... one of which is clear and the other is solid blank character. > > > > > > Maybe this will help you in some way!? :o) > > > > > Well, I solved it, every ascii-art-file has a header now, containing title and > > the transparent-char > > The script replaces the transparent-char by a "\0". > > Oh dear, these are just very basic techniques, look for something better on my > website, although I won't post the script here either ;-)) > > ========================================================= > [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] > [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] > [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] > ========================================================= I believe I haven't seen ANY ascii-animations on your website... Only some Java-applets that move Textcharacters with pixel-precision across the screen. Mine even play on a VT100, now you again, twat. -- ____ Time : Wed Oct 21 11:17:10 1998 .X+. . .Xx+-. . A competent and self-confident person is incapable of XXx++-.. jealousy in anything. Jealousy is invariably a symptom of XXxx++--.. neurotic insecurity. Lazarus Long (85) `XXXxx+++--' `XXXxxx' ""
Ojosh!ro wrote: > So, if I take the ascii-char 'decimal point' and copy that in a gif in different > colors and > positions that's still 'AscII-art' to you? Take an ascii pic and the answer is yes, it is ascii art in a gif medium. Only Dutch twats don't understand that. > But I'll send you some of my "decimal point AscII-art" Thanks for the nice pic. It must have cost you a few phone ticks in the Netherlands, local access is free here in North-America. ========================================================= [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] =========================================================
Pete Casso wrote: > > > I believe I haven't seen ANY ascii-animations on your website... > > Only some Java-applets that move Textcharacters with pixel-precision > > across the screen. > > Yes, Java can do that, and other techniques too :-))) > Only twats still play with VT100 ;-))) So, if I take the ascii-char 'decimal point' and copy that in a gif in different colors and positions that's still 'AscII-art' to you? Then french must be english to you aswell, cos they use the same charset...twat! But I'll send you some of my "decimal point AscII-art" it's in 16bit color and is 1024 decimal points by 768 decimal points... Oh yes, it's in gif-format. (But hey, open that in vim and you get ascii too, not?). Here's in proper french: 'Ga toch weg, malloot!'. Ojoshiro! -- ____ Time : Thu Oct 22 11:08:21 1998 .X+. . .Xx+-. . You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever XXx++-.. count on having both at once. Lazarus Long (40) XXxx++--.. `XXXxx+++--' `XXXxxx' ""
Ojosh!ro wrote: [snip] > > > Here's in proper french: 'Ga toch weg, malloot!'. > > Ojoshiro! And in proper Dutch: 'D�gage, abruti!' joris! ;)
> I believe I haven't seen ANY ascii-animations on your website... > Only some Java-applets that move Textcharacters with pixel-precision > across the screen. Yes, Java can do that, and other techniques too :-))) Only twats still play with VT100 ;-))) ========================================================= [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] =========================================================
Pete Casso wrote: > > Ojosh!ro wrote: > > So, if I take the ascii-char 'decimal point' and copy that in a gif in different > > colors and > > positions that's still 'AscII-art' to you? > > Take an ascii pic and the answer is yes, it is ascii art in a gif medium. Only > Dutch twats don't understand that. > > > But I'll send you some of my "decimal point AscII-art" > > Thanks for the nice pic. It must have cost you a few phone ticks in the > Netherlands, local access is free here in North-America. Glad you like it, and don't worry... We got an open line to the web here, and someone else is paying for it. I don't care about megs =) Ojoshiro. -- ____ Time : Mon Oct 26 10:32:31 1998 .X+. . .Xx+-. . Cheops' Law: Nothing ever gets built on schedule or XXx++-.. within budget. Lazarus Long (25) XXxx++--.. `XXXxx+++--' `XXXxxx' ""
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