Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 12 Dec 1998.
REQUEST: frogs
alt.ascii-art
· 35 messages · 12 Dec 1998 - 3 Jan 1999
Hey.. does anyone have any ascii frogs? Animated would be even better!
In article <9HDc2.2420$961...@server1.news.adelphia.net>, frog
<fro...@Adelphia.net> writes
>Hey.. does anyone have any ascii frogs? Animated would be even better!
see also http://www.xemu.demon.co.uk/art/
and the one in Veronica's sig.
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Dave Bird wrote: > ' ;;;;;;;;;BEER ' (~~) .00 @@-._ \ ' > ' WithAKick\/ ' ( ) ( =) (O ) ( ") (" ) > ' 'LikeAnHBomb ' ' ' ' ^^^^ ' ' ^^ ^^ ' ' ' ' ^^ ^^ ' ' "" ' "" ^ ^ | | The pics here look like Frogstein and its variations. Please add acknowledgement "after Pete Casso" or similar. Thanks! ========================================================= [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] =========================================================
In article <367...@sympatico.ca>, Pete Casso writes >Dave Bird wrote: >> ' ;;;;;;;;;BEER ' (~~) .00 @@-._ \ ' >> ' WithAKick\/ ' ( ) ( =) (O ) ( ") (" ) >> ' 'LikeAnHBomb ' ' ' ' ^^^^ ' ' ^^ ^^ ' ' ' ' ^^ ^^ ' ' "" ' "" > ^ ^ > | | > >The pics here look like Frogstein and its variations. Please add >acknowledgement "after Pete Casso" or similar. Thanks! The middle one is a bit like forgstein, the outer ones are a bit like two others authors, and the new froglets are a bit like ribenaberries or corona-fizzical bubbles. So there would be a lot of credits. I guess I should also credit arnie lerma of a.r.s. for the overall concept which I then illustrated, and LRon Hubbard for the name "Xemu". -- ' ' ' .:::. ' :: ' ' 'what do Scientologists say when ' http://www. ' (o\ /o) .::. ' you ask why their money-grubbing ' xemu.demon. ' \ " / XEMU ' killed a woman by starvation? ' co.uk ' ' '-' :::: ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' :v: \'''| ' BIGOT BIGOT BIGOT ' ' ;;\:::/;;\/ / ' OO / / \ ? ' ' ;;;;;;;;;BEER ' (~~) .00 @@-._ \ ' ' WithAKick\/ ' ( ) ( =) (O ) ( ") (" ) ' 'LikeAnHBomb ' ' ' ' ^^^^ ' ' ^^ ^^ ' ' ' ' ^^ ^^ ' ' "" ' ""
Dave Bird wrote: > > In article <367...@sympatico.ca>, Pete Casso writes > >Dave Bird wrote: > >> ' ;;;;;;;;;BEER ' (~~) .00 @@-._ \ ' > >> ' WithAKick\/ ' ( ) ( =) (O ) ( ") (" ) > >> ' 'LikeAnHBomb ' ' ' ' ^^^^ ' ' ^^ ^^ ' ' ' ' ^^ ^^ ' ' "" ' "" > > ^ ^ > > | | > > > >The pics here look like Frogstein and its variations. Please add > >acknowledgement "after Pete Casso" or similar. Thanks! > > The middle one is a bit like forgstein, the outer ones are a bit like > two others authors, and the new froglets are a bit like ribenaberries > or corona-fizzical bubbles. So there would be a lot of credits. I guess > I should also credit arnie lerma of a.r.s. for the overall concept > which I then illustrated, and LRon Hubbard for the name "Xemu". Well, I claim ownership for both Frogsteins (not just for the middle one) since I drew elongated Frogsteins as well, unless the unnamed two other authors can show that they did it before me. On the lot of credits issue, that's indeed an issue with a composition like this one. But that does not mean that you can omit the credits to the original authors. I can't talk for the other authors, but please add "after Pete Casso" if you use the pics in the future. Thanks! ========================================================= [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] =========================================================
>Message-id: <367...@sympatico.ca> >Well, I claim ownership for both Frogsteins (not just for the middle >one) You're claiming ownership for 10 (ten) characters or anything sortof similar to them??? So everytime someone makes a pic of a frog using any of those 10 characters-- or variations of them-- they have to credit you?? Get real Pete... I thought your copyright went more towards the "jokes" and the "characters" that you created... I suppose if you really want to get picky... you could take the below pic of a frog that Donna Shepherd made-- in '94 or '95 (or even earlier)-- before your beloved Forgstein... \ weasle or /\\ ____ ,^-o, \ /\ .'"v"'. ferret ``-,' `-';~~ rabbit ( ) = 'm' = .',-'~`../' , .( o ). " \|/ "--_o `^^ `^^ .:/ /m"..."m\ @..@ |\__/| ,,///;, ,;/ _,/ (\--/) / \ o:::::::;;/// <__ \_.---. (.>__<.) /_.~ ~,_\ >::::::::;;\\\ \_ / \ ^^^ ^^^ \@/ fox ''\\\\\'" ';\ fish \)\ /\.\ frog A___A ';\ _ // \\ ____ / o o \ O\ /O .-/ )-""". ,/' `\_, _/~____ =^= / O>!<O oP __/_)_( )* kangaroo <______>__m_m_> cat o o "(__/ (___/ puppy _____ _____ oo/><><>\ ()-() Donna Shepherd (((( ~..~ \9 ( -)><><><> (o o) aka ( )(:[ (oo)_____/ L|_|L|_|' /\o/\ Smiling (((( WW WW turtle mouse spider pig Here it is all by itself... @..@ (\--/) (.>__<.) ^^^ ^^^ and with one line omitted... @..@ (\--/) ^^^ ^^^ gee, it looks a bit familiar, huh? Can't accuse her of ripping you off as she did this well before you.... perhaps you need to add a line to your "jokes", " Frogstein based on a frog created by Donna Shepherd." Take the same pic... @..@ (\--/) (.>__<.) ^^^ ^^^ Omit a different line... and : (\--/) (.>__<.) ^^^ ^^^ hmmm-- sortof like a "Birdstein" huh?... add another line to your "jokes"... "Birdstein based on a frog created by Donna Shepherd." # of characters/variations are similar-- I'm sure that you agree. Heck, if someone were to post this now, you'd argue for credit. I don't belittle your claim of the "jokes" w/the characters as being your domain-- However, I don't agree with you that anytime someone makes something with 'your' characters, you need to argue for credit and recognition. C'mon-- I'd buy it if there were more substance to the Frogstein-- but there isn't. Perhaps I ought to go back and reclaim my "copyright" on the letter "S". It's nearly as ridiculous. I'm sure that you'll reply in your typical way-- crying and pleading for more attention. I've had my say. Make a scene now. -joan -- .{{}}}}}}. {{{{{}}}}}}}. joan stark <spu...@juno.com> {{{{ }}}}}}}}} }}}}} _ _ {{{{{ ASCII Art Gallery: }}}} 6 . 6 {{{{ <http://www.ascii-art.com> {{{{{ .___. }}}}} {{{{{{\ \_/ /}}}}}} {{{{{{{;.___.;}}}}}}} still laughing AT you! {{{{{{{) (}}}}}}}' `""'"': :'"'"'` jgs `@`
On 15 Dec 1998 13:38:44 GMT, spu...@aol.comASCIIart (Spunk1111) wrote: >>Message-id: <367...@sympatico.ca> > >>Well, I claim ownership for both Frogsteins (not just for the middle >>one) > >You're claiming ownership for 10 (ten) >characters or anything sortof similar to them??? > So everytime someone makes >a pic of a frog using any of those 10 characters-- >or variations of them-- they have to credit you?? >Get real Pete... Very well said. You can have all the demands you like, but demands will never work as well as respect. What do you think of my little birds? I've called the cute one at the top, (copyright with a halo of asterisks) "Sue Me Stine", and the owl at the bottom, (copyright with a comma behind her eyes), "Sue Me Owl". Obviously, I need to give acknowledgements to Donna Shepherd. *** (@.@) (> <) ^ ^ ,oo ( -) " " Brian
Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >Spunk1111 wrote: >> Get real Pete... I thought your copyright >> went more towards the "jokes" and the "characters" >> that you created... >Look, look, look! Spunkystein is again giving me attention ... not that >I appreciate it ... [ snipped ] Ya know, when I left this group a year and a half ago there was a huge flame fest going on between Pete Casso, Spunk1111, and others. When I returned I was pleased that it had ended. I certainly hope it doesn't start back again. -- Kevin Kreamer
kkr...@x14y52.angelo.edu wrote: > Ya know, when I left this group a year and a half ago there was a huge > flame fest going on between Pete Casso, Spunk1111, and others. When I > returned I was pleased that it had ended. I certainly hope it doesn't > start back again. Yes, exactly. I have repeatedly suggested to ignore each other, but I continue getting unsolicited and unappreciated attention, to say the least. Sheesh! ========================================================= [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] =========================================================
On Wed, 16 Dec 1998 04:03:11 GMT, Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >Brian wrote: ><snip> > >Brian, I have addressed the issue related stuff in a parallel posting. >On your motivation, I am not sure. I have no dealings with you at all >sofar. There is a messy issue going on since two long years, that you >are not aware of. I'd rather confine the mess to the small number of >(but vocal) asciigangsteins as I call them. Fair comment. I'll stay out of it. Brian
Pete Casso wrote: > > Spunk1111 wrote: > > Get real Pete... I thought your copyright > > went more towards the "jokes" and the "characters" > > that you created... > > Look, look, look! Spunkystein is again giving me attention ... not that > I appreciate it ... > > Anyway, my copyright encompass the pics too and their variations. The > following is copied from the Copyright FAQ of the US Copyright Office, > that is basically valid everywhere on the globe, NZ included (this is > also in response to Brian's post) > > 49.How much do I have to change in order to claim copyright in someone > else's work? > > Only the owner of copyright in a work has the right to prepare, or > to authorize someone else to create, a new version of that work. > Accordingly, you cannot claim copyright, no matter how much you > change it, unless you have the owner's consent. See Circular 14. > Thats right....it says that...however i doubt you can claim copyright on those 8 chars :) (uh oh...did i break a copyright law by not giving credit to whoever invented the smiley?) > Also, in this context, Dave Bird by his own acknowledgement was using > other authors' works as well in his composition, without giving any > credits to anyone. > > As I said in the past, I don't think that the issue is personal (to > Brian and Dave Bird,) but general, i.e. people generally don't consider > ascii art as protected by copyright law, and you are doing yourself a > disservice with your antics, Spunkystein, I thought you insisted on > keeping initials? That's a copyright notice in short form whether you > realize it or not ... There is a big difference about claiming copyright on larger scale works and small figures...where the limit is?...hard to say. but come on...8 chars... is this christmas smiley copyrighted too then? *<:-) If someone copies your jokes or is making something similar then you are in your good right to complain. [SNIP] That part is better left alone ;) Go to your corners and do what you are best at...make ascii art ;) > > ========================================================= > [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] > [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] > [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] > ========================================================= Troels Tolstrup - u97...@daimi.aau.dk Computer Science student at the university of Aarhus. Real men dont comment their programs. It was hard to write, It should be impossible to understand.
Troels Tolstrup wrote: > There is a big difference about claiming copyright on larger scale works > and small figures...where the limit is?...hard to say. but come on...8 > chars... is this christmas smiley copyrighted too then? *<:-) Well, I hope you don't judge a painting by the number of brushstrokes. The fewer the better, in fact, same here. And yes, a painting with 8 brushstrokes is copyright protected, same here. And copyright protection is automatic BTW, it exists the moment the work is created. Read the copyright FAQ that I post every week. And surprise, surprise, someone recently asserted her copyrights on a smiley drawing! I find it ridiculous, but she acted undoubtedly within her legal rights. =========================================================== [] oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] (> )> Aladdinstein, who despises the attention [] [] ^^ of nagging old lovers [] ===========================================================
Spunk1111 wrote: > Get real Pete... I thought your copyright > went more towards the "jokes" and the "characters" > that you created... Look, look, look! Spunkystein is again giving me attention ... not that I appreciate it ... Anyway, my copyright encompass the pics too and their variations. The following is copied from the Copyright FAQ of the US Copyright Office, that is basically valid everywhere on the globe, NZ included (this is also in response to Brian's post) 49.How much do I have to change in order to claim copyright in someone else's work? Only the owner of copyright in a work has the right to prepare, or to authorize someone else to create, a new version of that work. Accordingly, you cannot claim copyright, no matter how much you change it, unless you have the owner's consent. See Circular 14. Also, in this context, Dave Bird by his own acknowledgement was using other authors' works as well in his composition, without giving any credits to anyone. As I said in the past, I don't think that the issue is personal (to Brian and Dave Bird,) but general, i.e. people generally don't consider ascii art as protected by copyright law, and you are doing yourself a disservice with your antics, Spunkystein, I thought you insisted on keeping initials? That's a copyright notice in short form whether you realize it or not ... Coming back ... > @..@ |\__/| ,,///;, ,;/ _,/ > (\--/) / \ o:::::::;;/// <__ \_.---. > (.>__<.) /_.~ ~,_\ >::::::::;;\\\ \_ / \ > ^^^ ^^^ \@/ fox ''\\\\\'" ';\ fish \)\ /\.\ > frog A___A ';\ _ // \\ I don't think that Donna Shepherd's frog resembles Frogstein or Birdstein at all, even after you manipulated the pic. Just compare the the pic with the Frogstein in my sig. > I don't belittle your claim of the "jokes" w/the characters as Ha ha ha! You have always tried to make me look bad and instigate others since I rejected your offer to work together two years ago! > I'd buy it if there were more substance to the Frogstein-- > but there isn't. Aha, an example for belittling, anyway it is not simple to make recognizable small ascii art. > Perhaps I ought to go back and reclaim my "copyright" on > the letter "S". It's nearly as ridiculous. You did do nearly as ridiculous things as copyrighting the "S", e.g. you added your initials to a Grinch recently, because the author drew the smile on its face the same way you drew it in one of your pics. > I'm sure that you'll reply in your typical way-- crying and > pleading for more attention. Ha ha ha! It is you who gave me unsolicited (and unwanted) attention! Oh dear, oh dear, two long years ... > Make a scene now. Your turn ... ========================================================= [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] =========================================================
Brian wrote: <snip> Brian, I have addressed the issue related stuff in a parallel posting. On your motivation, I am not sure. I have no dealings with you at all sofar. There is a messy issue going on since two long years, that you are not aware of. I'd rather confine the mess to the small number of (but vocal) asciigangsteins as I call them. ========================================================= [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] =========================================================
Martin Atkins wrote: > oo > ("")-. <<<--- Martin Atkins's WeirdThang (c) Martin Atkins > > .oo > ( -) <<<--- Pete Casso's Frogstein (c) Pete Casso > " " > > Do you expect me to add credits to that too? No, I do not expect you to add credits to your own creation. You mentioned the reason for that yourself in a parallel posting in this thread: it has to do with the similarity of a pic to the original, it has nothing to do with the use of same characters. It was my continually nagging old lover who falsely imputed the ludicrous "use of same characters" notion to me. The other example on the other side of the fence is figletized Frogsteins that several of my emulators have made in the past. Some of them have used the same characters and others have not, but that's totally irrelevant. In all cases of figletized Frogsteins, I do expect a credit to me (resulting in joint credits or something similar,) exactly because of the similarity of those pics to the original. Related, and as I wrote several times in the past, Frogstein is not really a frog, but a human face on tiny feet, with so little detail that it resembles a frog, ideal for making cartoons exactly because of its simplicity/smallness and recognizability at the same time. Positively not apologizing for not using humble words, I think it and the other 'steins are ingenious constructs (highest payback/investment ratio that I have ever seen, as someone once wrote, he may have been a gambler :-)) I think I will do some little write ups on the 'steins in the next few days, stay tuned :-) > No offence etc. Intended and this is not the cue for flames. (I hope) That's OK, it gave me an opportunity to further clarify ascii art copyright issues, this newsgroup and the rest of the world can definitely use more awareness of it, thanks. =========================================================== [] oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] (> )> Aladdinstein, who despises the attention [] [] ^^ of nagging old lovers [] ===========================================================
.----- On 15 Dec 1998 13:38:44 GMT, Spunk1111 posted:
|>Message-id: <367...@sympatico.ca>
|
|>Well, I claim ownership for both Frogsteins (not just for the middle
|>one)
|
|You're claiming ownership for 10 (ten)
|characters or anything sortof similar to them???
| So everytime someone makes
|a pic of a frog using any of those 10 characters--
|or variations of them-- they have to credit you??
|Get real Pete... I thought your copyright
|went more towards the "jokes" and the "characters"
|that you created...
|
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Here's a character of my own invention...
oo
("")-. <<<--- Martin Atkins's WeirdThang (c) Martin Atkins
Whoops!
It's uses the 8 characters that Frogstein consists of (in my memory at
least)
.oo
( -) <<<--- Pete Casso's Frogstein (c) Pete Casso
" "
Do you expect me to add credits to that too?
Not that I intend to use the character for anything, I`m just using it as an
example to ask you, Pete, how far you wan`t to take this copyright issue.
No offence etc. Intended and this is not the cue for flames. (I hope)
Adios,
-Martin
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.----- On Wed, 16 Dec 1998 22:38:43 GMT, Pete Casso posted:
|Troels Tolstrup wrote:
|> There is a big difference about claiming copyright on larger scale works
|> and small figures...where the limit is?...hard to say. but come on...8
|> chars... is this christmas smiley copyrighted too then? *<:-)
|
|Well, I hope you don't judge a painting by the number of brushstrokes.
|The fewer the better, in fact, same here. And yes, a painting with 8
|brushstrokes is copyright protected, same here. And copyright protection
|is automatic BTW, it exists the moment the work is created. Read the
|copyright FAQ that I post every week.
|
|And surprise, surprise, someone recently asserted her copyrights on a
|smiley drawing! I find it ridiculous, but she acted undoubtedly within
|her legal rights.
|
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the way I see it, it's not anything to do with amount of characters changed,
it's whether the picture generally resembles the original. If I wanted to be
pernikety (although I don`t, since I can`t even spell the damn thing) I
could claim that face thing to the right of Meph's sig as a slight mod of my
portrait, since which it has different characters it still looks like my
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Similar huh?
The point is that a pic can look almost the same even with a few characters
changed. Let's play spot the difference...
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They look like the same pic don`t they?
/me now checks out of this thread before anything big happens. No point in
replying to me the thread is now on ignore.
Byez,
-Martin
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Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
PC> Troels Tolstrup wrote:
PC> > There is a big difference about claiming copyright on larger scale works
PC> > and small figures...where the limit is?...hard to say. but come on...8
PC> > chars... is this christmas smiley copyrighted too then? *<:-)
PC> Well, I hope you don't judge a painting by the number of brushstrokes.
PC> The fewer the better, in fact, same here. And yes, a painting with 8
PC> brushstrokes is copyright protected, same here. And copyright protection
PC> is automatic BTW, it exists the moment the work is created. Read the
PC> copyright FAQ that I post every week.
PC>
PC> And surprise, surprise, someone recently asserted her copyrights on a
PC> smiley drawing! I find it ridiculous, but she acted undoubtedly within
PC> her legal rights.
If copyright is automatic(if published, I believe, but net posting counts as
publishing) then a person claiming copyright on something that's already been
done by someone else (eg. the above Christmas smiley), they don't in fact have
a legitimate claim to copyright.
Otherwise I could go ahead and copyright :) (rediculous!)
I would/do claim ownership of the Cyberpopicon: <+]::-{)}
and its variants(that directly relate to my appearance). . .
Your friend,
|<+]::-{)}
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I asked for ascii frogs, not an Issue on who really made frogsteins and whether there should be copyright or not... please move this convertation to a new post.
frog wrote: > > I asked for ascii frogs, not an Issue on who really made frogsteins and > whether there should be copyright or not... please move this convertation to > a new post. Typing "ascii frog" into yahoo's search engine gives you a lot to look at, see below for the first 20. Sorry, I had to respond to someone equating two totally different pics in an attempt to discredit me. ========================================================= [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] ========================================================= Web Pages (1-20 of 925) GULFLINK Recent Uploads for 961102 - Files Posted on 961102 IRAQI ARMY CHEMICAL WEAPONS DOCTRINE; IRANIAN USE OF (ascii text) IRAQI MILITARY DEVELOPMENTS (ascii text) STATUS OF UNREST: CHEMICAL ATTACKS ON RESISTANCE (ascii text) CHEMICAL ATTACKS ON RESISTANCE (ascii text) PREWAR... --http://www.fas.org/irp/gulf/cia/961102/index.html Index of /~jckrug/Pictures/Ascii/ - Index of /~jckrug/Pictures/Ascii/ Name Last modified Size Description Parent Directory 03-Dec-97 08:25 - Animation/ 03-Aug-98 20:32 - EiffelTower.ascii 24-Jun-95 15:16 11K LOpera.ascii 24-Jun-95 15:22 6K NotreDame.ascii 24-Jun-95 15:20 10K... --http://web.syr.edu/~jckrug/Pictures/Ascii/ the ascii-art of b'ger - Drawings animals computer related devils knights/Dragons people (men) people (women) miscellaneous mythology sketches from Hell about ascii art Animations owl fish rabbits infamous rabbits frog another frog Ascii to Gif devil 27kb dancing girl 32kb. --http://www.xs4all.nl/~svzanten/joris/ascii/main.html ASCII Art! - Alanis Morissette Alien Animaniacs Anime Girl Barney the (Satanic) Dinosaur Beavis and Butt-Head Calvin and Hobbes Dogs (from Merry Melodies) Einstein Ferengi Dancing Frog Garfield Grinch Who Stole Christmas * Happy Birthday! Homer Simpson Sings... --http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/u/h2lee/ascii/ Howard's Humor Page - Howard's Humor Page Welcome to my Humor Page. I've collected various tidbits from the internet here for your amusement and mine. If you find something really good then send it to me and I'll add it to the page. Latest fun link: It's better to play.. --http://www.timefold.com/humor.html Doll's Home Page! - : text/html; charset="us-ascii;" name="bluebackground.htm"> : 7bit> : inline; filename="bluebackground.htm"> : "file://C|/pics/bluebackground.htm" > 666666 ://www.apex2000.net/personal/dcampbell/gsmile.gif> Step into another Dimension..where time... --http://www.apex2000.net/personal/dcampbell/index.html Harp Mailing List 1995 Archive: Music notation in ASCII? - Music notation in ASCII? Paul Hoefling (hoe...@mdd.comm.mot.com) Tue, 11 Apr 1995 13:49:12 -0700 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: Christine Ramsey: "Re: Well, I lost the list.." Previous message: Paul... --http://www.tns.lcs.mit.edu/harp/archives/1995/0654.html Frog Art Gallery - Amazing Frogness Frog Picture Gallery If you want to use these images in your own WWW pages, I request that you not make direct links to individual image files. Please copy the files you want to your own server instead. To download, first click... --http://www.wccca.com/~dstroy/gallery/gallery.html Tim Menzies - ascii art - Tim Menzies A australia B baby, bart, bat, bears, beermug, brain.on.unix, bronson, bush.lips, butterfly C castle1, castle2, cat, chinese_message, christmas, circle, clint, coin, cow D dog_face, dragon E enterprise, enterprise1, enterprise2 F face.. --http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~timm/pub/ascii/ascii.html Character Graphic(ASCII art) World - Enjoy pictures that is made of characters !! ( 97.11.12 Updated ) What is Charagra? Charagra in every month @@ ** June: Hydrangea and Frog ** @ @ ** July: Tanabata ** @@ ** August: Firework on the Sea ** @@ ** September: Otsukimi ** @@ ** October.. --http://www.click.or.jp/~riris/net_e/e_chaidx.htm Links - Tributos RAY - Dedicado a Ian Anderson e Jethro Tull Gentle Giant Tribute Bandas Nacionais - Home-Pages - Coloque a home page da sua banda na Rock Progressivo Brasil ! Veja a p�gina Brasil Prog Bandas Internacionais Advent Ariel View Andrew Booker.. --http://www.rockprogressivo.com.br/links_p.htm Laura's Art Page - LAURA'S COLLECTION OF ASCII ART! BEARS Real Bear Teddy Bear In A Heart BIRDS Birds In A Heart CASTLES Sand Castle Haunted Castle CATS Panther Cat At A Computer Fat Cat Sleeping Cat Tiger COWS Parachuting Cow Real Cow Singing Cow DINOSAURS Little... --http://rhf.bradley.edu/~lbarte/berry.htm Animated Gif Gallery - Welcome to my GIF Gallery You'll Need a Browser that Supports Animation.. Try Netscape 2.01 or Higher or Microsoft Explorer Here are some Animated GIF's I Made..Hope you Enjoy em UFO.GIF This one is a UFO Draining the Power out of a City at night . --http://www.jps.net/funnyguy/a-gif.htm ICAN links - The International Canopy Network General Information Subscriptions Board of Directors Newsletter Images (in GIF format) Tree Frog Flying Lizard Bromeliads Temperate Rain Forest Tropical Cloud Forest Coniferous Canopy Research ICAN Canopy Science... --http://lternet.edu/network/ican/master.htm Pete's Ascii Archive - My Ascii Art Archive I have only kept stuff here that I thought would be interesting or useful because I don't have space to keep more. I have tried to preserve the author's name where it was known but I haven't been perfect. If you authored one of. --http://www.seas.upenn.edu/~pchowla/ascii/page.html How do I unsubscribe? - [Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] How do I unsubscribe? Subject: How do I unsubscribe? 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thanks!! Pete Casso wrote in message <368...@sympatico.ca>... >frog wrote: >> >> I asked for ascii frogs, not an Issue on who really made frogsteins and >> whether there should be copyright or not... please move this convertation to >> a new post. > >Typing "ascii frog" into yahoo's search engine gives you a lot to look >at, see below for the first 20. > >Sorry, I had to respond to someone equating two totally different pics >in an attempt to discredit me. > >========================================================= >[] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] >[] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] >[] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] >========================================================= > >Web Pages (1-20 of 925) > > GULFLINK Recent Uploads for 961102 - Files Posted on 961102 IRAQI >ARMY CHEMICAL WEAPONS DOCTRINE; IRANIAN > USE OF (ascii text) IRAQI MILITARY DEVELOPMENTS (ascii text) >STATUS OF UNREST: CHEMICAL ATTACKS ON > RESISTANCE (ascii text) CHEMICAL ATTACKS ON RESISTANCE (ascii >text) PREWAR... > --http://www.fas.org/irp/gulf/cia/961102/index.html > > Index of /~jckrug/Pictures/Ascii/ - Index of >/~jckrug/Pictures/Ascii/ Name Last modified Size Description Parent >Directory 03-Dec-97 08:25 - Animation/ > 03-Aug-98 20:32 - EiffelTower.ascii 24-Jun-95 15:16 11K >LOpera.ascii 24-Jun-95 15:22 6K NotreDame.ascii 24-Jun-95 15:20 10K... > --http://web.syr.edu/~jckrug/Pictures/Ascii/ > > the ascii-art of b'ger - Drawings animals computer related devils >knights/Dragons people (men) people (women) miscellaneous mythology >sketches from > Hell about ascii art Animations owl fish rabbits infamous rabbits >frog another frog Ascii to Gif devil 27kb dancing girl 32kb. > --http://www.xs4all.nl/~svzanten/joris/ascii/main.html > > ASCII Art! - Alanis Morissette Alien Animaniacs Anime Girl Barney >the (Satanic) Dinosaur Beavis and Butt-Head Calvin and Hobbes Dogs (from Merry > Melodies) Einstein Ferengi Dancing Frog Garfield Grinch Who Stole >Christmas * Happy Birthday! Homer Simpson Sings... > --http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/u/h2lee/ascii/ > > Howard's Humor Page - Howard's Humor Page Welcome to my Humor >Page. I've collected various tidbits from the internet here for your >amusement and > mine. If you find something really good then send it to me and >I'll add it to the page. Latest fun link: It's better to play.. > --http://www.timefold.com/humor.html > > Doll's Home Page! - : text/html; charset="us-ascii;" >name="bluebackground.htm"> : 7bit> : inline; >filename="bluebackground.htm"> : > "file://C|/pics/bluebackground.htm" > 666666 >://www.apex2000.net/personal/dcampbell/gsmile.gif> Step into another >Dimension..where time... > --http://www.apex2000.net/personal/dcampbell/index.html > > Harp Mailing List 1995 Archive: Music notation in ASCII? - Music >notation in ASCII? Paul Hoefling (hoe...@mdd.comm.mot.com) Tue, 11 Apr > 1995 13:49:12 -0700 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ >subject ][ author ] Next message: Christine Ramsey: "Re: Well, I lost >the list.." Previous > message: Paul... > --http://www.tns.lcs.mit.edu/harp/archives/1995/0654.html > > Frog Art Gallery - Amazing Frogness Frog Picture Gallery If you >want to use these images in your own WWW pages, I request that you not >make direct > links to individual image files. Please copy the files you want to >your own server instead. To download, first click... > --http://www.wccca.com/~dstroy/gallery/gallery.html > > Tim Menzies - ascii art - Tim Menzies A australia B baby, bart, >bat, bears, beermug, brain.on.unix, bronson, bush.lips, butterfly C >castle1, castle2, cat, > chinese_message, christmas, circle, clint, coin, cow D dog_face, >dragon E enterprise, enterprise1, enterprise2 F face.. > --http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~timm/pub/ascii/ascii.html > > Character Graphic(ASCII art) World - Enjoy pictures that is made >of characters !! ( 97.11.12 Updated ) What is Charagra? Charagra in >every month @@ > ** June: Hydrangea and Frog ** @ @ ** July: Tanabata ** @@ ** >August: Firework on the Sea ** @@ ** September: Otsukimi ** @@ ** October.. > --http://www.click.or.jp/~riris/net_e/e_chaidx.htm > > Links - Tributos RAY - Dedicado a Ian Anderson e Jethro Tull >Gentle Giant Tribute Bandas Nacionais - Home-Pages - Coloque a home page >da sua banda > na Rock Progressivo Brasil ! Veja a p�gina Brasil Prog Bandas >Internacionais Advent Ariel View Andrew Booker.. > --http://www.rockprogressivo.com.br/links_p.htm > > Laura's Art Page - LAURA'S COLLECTION OF ASCII ART! BEARS Real >Bear Teddy Bear In A Heart BIRDS Birds In A Heart CASTLES Sand > Castle Haunted Castle CATS Panther Cat At A Computer Fat Cat >Sleeping Cat Tiger COWS Parachuting Cow Real Cow Singing Cow DINOSAURS > Little... > --http://rhf.bradley.edu/~lbarte/berry.htm > > Animated Gif Gallery - Welcome to my GIF Gallery You'll Need a >Browser that Supports Animation.. Try Netscape 2.01 or Higher or >Microsoft Explorer > Here are some Animated GIF's I Made..Hope you Enjoy em UFO.GIF >This one is a UFO Draining the Power out of a City at night . > --http://www.jps.net/funnyguy/a-gif.htm > > ICAN links - The International Canopy Network General Information >Subscriptions Board of Directors Newsletter Images (in GIF format) Tree Frog > Flying Lizard Bromeliads Temperate Rain Forest Tropical Cloud >Forest Coniferous Canopy Research ICAN Canopy Science... > --http://lternet.edu/network/ican/master.htm > > Pete's Ascii Archive - My Ascii Art Archive I have only kept stuff >here that I thought would be interesting or useful because I don't have >space to keep > more. I have tried to preserve the author's name where it was >known but I haven't been perfect. If you authored one of. > --http://www.seas.upenn.edu/~pchowla/ascii/page.html > > How do I unsubscribe? - [Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread >Next][Date Index][Thread Index] How do I unsubscribe? Subject: How do I > unsubscribe? From: Stephen Smith Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 22:04:09 >-0500 (EST) Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN... > --http://www.tapr.org/~ve3jf/TAPR_1997/SIG/MAIL/APRS/1995/N... > > Terrestrial Salamander Monitoring Program - The Terrestrial >Salamander Monitoring Program Sam Droege Patuxent Wildlife Research >Center 12100 Beech > Forest Drive Laurel, MD 20708-4038 fro...@usgs.gov Laura Monti 9 >Knapp Street, Apt. 1. Somerville, MA 02143 Lem...@aol.com Dan Lantz > FreeLantz... > --http://www.im.nbs.gov/sally/ > > Infoseek : - ��ˀ�Ǻ�߀��ʀ��ˀ�*��� �ȥԥå� �3�ԥ�*�� > >�ǥ���륢�*�� > 11��*��� �� e-�ӥ��ͥ1��(8/13) �� ŷ���*��powerup!(8/11) �� > Webkit���(8/7) �� is-Desktop ��3�(7/31) �ȥԥå��1 �� >�кѡ��ӥ��ͥ1 �� ���*�ͥå� �� �3��ԥ�*�� �� �11ԡ�.. > --http://japan.infoseek.com/20000/20460 > > Netscape 0.96BETA - [Prev][Next][Index] Netscape 0.96BETA To: >pa-...@k12.cnidr.org Subject: Netscape 0.96BETA From: Frank Salas Date: > Thu, 15 Dec 1994 19:02:46 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; >CHARSET=US-ASCII Reply-To: Frank Salas ... > --http://k12.cnidr.org/pa-lists/pa-questions/9412/msg00059.... > > Caldera-Users - February 1998: [Fwd: Dumb Xemacs perl mode >question] - [Fwd: Dumb Xemacs perl mode question] Greg deHollan > (gp...@student.umass.edu) Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:29:23 -0500 Messages >sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: Greg >deHollan: "Re: > Dumb Xemacs perl mode question" Previous... > --http://\www.caldera.com/mail-archives/Caldera-Users/9802/...
>Message-id: <368...@sympatico.ca> >Sorry, I had to respond to someone equating two totally different pics >in an attempt to discredit me. Gee I didn't think that I was discrediting you-- I was pointing out a _clear_ comparison... hmmm, I didn't think that they were two totally different pics... the Donna Shepherd's pics were as similar to your frogstein creatures as the newly created pic made by someone else-- the pic that you claimed copyright ownership to because it used **similar** characters... Go ANALyze the pics, Pete, and stop whining. If you are going to argue copyright whenever someone makes an ASCII frog with "those" eight characters or something similar, you ought to reconsider Donna Shepherd's ASCII frog-- it was made before yours and uses nearly the same characters. Looks like the pot is calling the kettle black again. My one post elicited several debasing posts from you... I wonder how much whining you'll make about this one... And don't bother calling me an "old lover" of yours... I never cared for you at all. (perhaps you cared for me?) -joan -- .{{}}}}}}. {{{{{}}}}}}}. joan stark <spu...@juno.com> {{{{ }}}}}}}}} }}}}} _ _ {{{{{ ASCII Art Gallery: }}}} 6 . 6 {{{{ <http://www.ascii-art.com> {{{{{ .___. }}}}} {{{{{{\ \_/ /}}}}}} {{{{{{{;.___.;}}}}}}} still laughing AT you! {{{{{{{) (}}}}}}}' `""'"': :'"'"'` jgs `@`
>Message-id: <9HDc2.2420$961...@server1.news.adelphia.net> > >Hey.. does anyone have any ascii frogs? Animated would be even better! sorry about the transgression in the thread... Here are some ASCII frogs... -= [ frog ]=- 3/97 .-. .-. _ (o) )-"-( (o) _ / \ __/'-' '-'\__ / \ / \/ \ . . / \/ \ / , / `----=----` \ , \ \ ( \ , `'-----'` , / ) / __> \ `\ \ _ _ / /` / <__ \_ /^\_`\ \,`---`,/ /`_/^\ _/ jgs /_/|_\ /||\ /||\ /_|\_\ -=[ frog ]=- 1/98 _ _ / \ / \ _|_0/-\0_|_ / " \ \'-._____.-'/ .--.'._ _.'.--. | \/ \/ | | / \ | ___\ / / \ \ /___ \__ ( \__ __/ ) __/ /__ |\ _/_ /| __\ jgs |_/ /_/\_\ /_/\_\ \_| -=[ frog ]=- 10/98 _ _ (o`\__/`o) .-' '-. | '' | \__ '.____.' __/ / ;-.____.-; \ | ( / \ ) | / `> <` \ \_\_\ /_/_/ \ \ / / / ;.____.; \ / / \ \ \ \ / / '.\ /.' ) \ / ( /` | | `\ jgs /_ | | _\ /_/-' '-\_\ >> frog << 10/96 .. .' @`._ ~ ...._.' ,__.-; _..------/` .-' ~ : __./' , .'-'--.._ ~ `---(.-'''---. \`._ `. ~ _.--'( .______.'.-' `-.` `. : `-..____`-. ; `. ```` ; ~ jgs `-.__ __.-' ````-----.......-----''' ~ ~ ~ -=[ frog with fly ]=- 12/96 ' .''. '..' '. \/ __ __ '.()o ." ". ." ". ____ "" / .-. \_/ .-. \ ____ / `"=._ _/ (o ) (o ) \_ _.="` \ | "=. /' '-'_,-,_'-' `\ .=" | | ". ". | '. _."_.-._"._ .' | ." ." | ". ". ". \ `"-.~._^_.~.-"` / ." ." ." ". ". ". `--._ `-.~.-` _.--` ." ." ." "=._ ". "=./ `._ _.` \.=" ." _.=" "=._ "._ / `"""""` \ _." _.=" "=. "-. : : .-" .=" ". "| Y Y |" ." _.="` _\ \ / /_ `"=._ _.-"""``""` _.-"`__\ \-.____.-/ /__`"-._ `""``"""-._ .-'.-' _.-'_.-"`jgs.' .' .'\ \ / /'. '._'. `"-._'-._'-.'-. `"` `"` `"` `"` `"` `"` `"` `"` `"` `"` `"` `"` -=[ frog ]=- 2/97 __ __ . ' ' . /`\ .( o)-( o). /`\ . ' ' . / , \( _______ )/ , \ () .' ___/ /_\ /`"-------"`\ /_\ \___ `() jgs`~//^\~_`\ <__ __> /`_~/^\\~` `~//^\\~`~//^\\~` -=[ frog ]=- 5/97 _ _ (o)-(o) .-( " )-. / /`'-=-'`\ \ jgs __\ _\ \___/ /_ /__ /| /|\ /|\ |\ -=[ frog ]=- 5/97 .-. .-. ( o )_( o ) __ / '-' '-' \ __ / / " \ \ | \ _____, / | jgs \ \`-._______.-'/ / _.-` /\) (/\ `-._ (_ / / /.___.\ \ \ _) (_.(_/ / (_ _) \ \_)._) (_(_)_) (_(_)_) -=[ frogs ]=- 8/97 ()-() .-(___)-. _< >_ jgs \/ \/ _ _ (oTo) _.-( _ )-._ `/`( '-' )`\` /'---'\ __\ /__ jgs \_/ \_/ _ _ (.)-(.) / " \ /\'---'/\ /| `'"'` |\ // \ / \\ /|\ / /^\ \ /|\ / .' '. \ \ ( ) / / | | \ jgs / | | \ '-'-' '-'-' _ _ (|)--(|) .-./` .. `\.-. / | .__ __. | \ | \ `` / | \ / ` -- ` \ / \| |/ ,---'\ \ / /'---, jgs \.-'`/=|=\'--'/=|=\`-._/ _______ |#######| _|#######|_ '--(o)-(o)--' / " \ /\'---'/\ /| (>o<) |\ // \ / \\##, /|\ / /^\ \ /|\'# / .' '. \ '#, \ ( ) / '#, / | | \ '#, jgs / | | \ '#, '-'-' '-'-' '# -=[ frog ]=- 4/98 _ __ /_/_\`\ .---\o\o/ | (-. , O`--. \_'----' .--.`\ |` / (| _\ _\ ()_/ {_/'-||_} -'`) jgs {_/ }_..-` -=[ frog ]=- 6/98 .--. _.----._ __ /_.--;_..-''''---''`` .:. `-.`-. c-'`.'.-. '. '::. .::. '::' '. `) .'o ((0)) ' ':::' .::.:. '\ ( '-' .-. .:' .::' '_...._| '._-..__ '-' . .:' .-' .' '-. `''--;:-_, __, '::' .' .' \ \ ,`""\ / / / / , | \-.__\\/(___| |`'''-----'`| | .-' / / `-. | _____\ ` _.-' / `-.-'--`-._ _/ _.;--. `- __.:.--'` jgs `"` '------';` _.' `--` -=[ frog ]=- 7/98 _ _ (')-=-(') __( " )__ / _/'-----'\_ \ ___\\ \\ // //___ jgs >____)/_\---/_\(____< -=[ girl holding frog ]=- 8/97 .--..-""""-..--. ///`/////////\`\\\ ||/ |///""\\\| \|| ## ( 6. 6 ) ## /_\ \ _. / /_\ _`) (`_ /` '--' `\ | _ _ | /\_/(.)(.)\_/\ ( / / \ \ ) \ \/\ -- /\/ / \__)`''`(__/ |\u u/| |/ /\ \| / .' '. \ \ ( || ) / / |_||_| \ / | || | \ '-'-|` || `|-'-' jgs |==||==| /~`//~`/ / // / `""` `"` -=[ frog ]=- 2/98 _ _ (.)_(.) _ ( _ ) _ / \/`-----'\/ \ __\ ( ( ) ) /__ ) /\ \._./ /\ ( jgs )_/ /|\ /|\ \_( -joan -- ( ,=(,)=, |'==='| _, joan stark | |,)/( spu...@juno.com | |)/<_, >>>\, _/<8<-_/ ASCII Art Gallery >>>>>>oo<<)\( http://www.ascii-art.com jgs >>>>>>o<<<\/
Look, look, look, Spunkystein is slinging mud at me again! Since two
years! Only someone with that kind of mindset would equate the two pics below.
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frog by Donna Shepherd Frogstein by Pete Casso
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>Message-id: <368...@sympatico.ca> > >Look, look, look, Spunkystein is slinging mud at me again! Since two >years! Only someone with that kind of mindset would equate the two pics >below. > > @..@ > (\--/) .oo > (.>__<.) ( -) > ^^^ ^^^ " " >frog by Donna Shepherd Frogstein by Pete Casso Why don't you post the 'other' pics that you complained about? I will ' :v: \'''| ' BIGOT BIGOT BIGOT ' ' ;;\:::/;;\/ / ' OO / / \ ? ' ' ;;;;;;;;;BEER ' (~~) .00 @@-._ \ ' ' WithAKick\/ ' ( ) ( =) (O ) ( ") (" ) ' 'LikeAnHBomb ' ' ' ' ^^^^ ' ' ^^ ^^ ' ' ' ' ^^ ^^ ' ' "" ' "" all have different eyes... different feet... different mouths... the only thing in common with your 'frog' are two parentheses and a period... and anytime anyone does that they have to credit YOU? I find that incredulous... That's the only reason I persist with this. Now I just drew this pic... I've used "similar' characters that are used in your frogstein... am I to credit you? or say, "oh great PeteCASSo, thank you for allowing me to use the parentheses, the hyphens, the Os and the periods in my ASCII picture?" I don't think so. \/ .oOOo. ( -)(- ) (`"` `"`) .'\ '' /'. / / \ / \ \ ; | \/ | ; |/ \| \ / '-......-' jgs __|_ _|__ /| |\ -joan -- .{{}}}}}}. {{{{{}}}}}}}. joan stark <spu...@juno.com> {{{{ }}}}}}}}} }}}}} _ _ {{{{{ ASCII Art Gallery: }}}} 6 . 6 {{{{ <http://www.ascii-art.com> {{{{{ .___. }}}}} {{{{{{\ \_/ /}}}}}} {{{{{{{;.___.;}}}}}}} still laughing AT you! {{{{{{{) (}}}}}}}' `""'"': :'"'"'` jgs `@`
> Why don't you post the 'other' pics that you > complained about? I will Look, look, look, Spunkystein is giving up on equating two totally different pics! And now what?! Ruminating yet another nag that has been beat to death and died well over a week ago? Well, wallow in the sewer, Spunkystein! > \/ > .oOOo. > ( -)(- ) > (`"` `"`) > .'\ '' /'. > / / \ / \ \ > ; | \/ | ; > |/ \| > \ / > '-......-' > jgs __|_ _|__ > /| |\ > Eyes after Frogstein by Pete Casso You are undermining your own cause, you have already been complaining a lot more than anyone else on this newsgroup about people stealing your pics, and that's just a tiny fraction of what actually happens on the entire net, have no illusions about it. In just a few years, your work will be nameless, just like most old ascii pics, unless <see copyright FAQ> Wake up for your own benefit. =========================================================== [] oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] (> )> Aladdinstein, who despises the attention [] [] ^^ of nagging old lovers [] ===========================================================
CJRandall wrote: > > ... no offence meant with this ... by way of example only ... Well, everything can be made an asshole, yourself included. cjr asshole by cjr > . ,------------.________,-------------. > . / \ / \ > . / \ / \ > . / \../ \ > . / cjr \ > . / cjr \ > . / /"\/"\ \ > . / / )( \ \ > . / / )( \ \ > . C /\ /\ /\ C > . J / `"` `"` \ J > . R / \ R > . \ /`-.____..____.-'\ / > . \ / \ / > . >------------< >-------------< ================================================================ [] [] [] /( )\ Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( "> <" ) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] (> )><( <) Woodpeckersteins dancing the boogie-woogie [] [] ^^ ^^ [] ================================================================
Pete Casso writes >CJRandall wrote: >> >> ... no offence meant with this ... by way of example only ... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [][ ... altho' extreme ... sorry for the upset :( [disassociated material cut] > >cjr asshole by cjr hmmm... ... it may be wise to review (and publish) the contextual setting in which a 'frogstein' stigmata can be identified as a stand-alone 'frogstein' ? ... or ... plz add a section to your FAQ ... eg: when is a 'frogstein' not a 'frogstein' ? [][ colin -- . /\_/\ ( () |_ | |\| _/ |? .\ |\| |) .\ |_ |_ :( a a( CJRandall http://www.shieldwolf.demon.co.uk ' \___") <>>>oo<<<>X<>>>oo<<<>X<>>>oo<<<>X<>>>oo<<<>
>Pete Casso writes >>CJRandall wrote: >> >[][ ... altho' extreme ... > >[disassociated material cut] >> > [][ the solution to your problem is ... revise your policy on credits per picture element by specifying that the spaces around a 'frogstein' are also part of the object this allows for occurrences of the 'frogstein' char-set that may appear coincidentally embedded in a picture and without being in any way in a 'frogstein' context ... also ... it would put an end to posts like 'the previous from me' for ever! and relegate it back to low-quality trash instead of a piece of copy-write history no-one i know in person would look at the section below and (knowing what it represents) think of you ... altho' your policy on crediting forces me to add credit references you'd rather not see ... e.g.: 'which part of pic' after 'artist' . / \ / \ . / \../ \ . / .oo. \ . / ( ) \ . / /"\/"\ \ . / / )( \ \ section of: butt.txt by cjr dunno how the 'hyphen' appeared in the previous picture ... ... guess it must've been my mailer ... ;) [][ see yuz [][ colin -- . /\_/\ ( () |_ | |\| _/ |? .\ |\| |) .\ |_ |_ :( a a( CJRandall http://www.shieldwolf.demon.co.uk ' \___") <>>>oo<<<>X<>>>oo<<<>X<>>>oo<<<>X<>>>oo<<<>
>Message-id: <368...@sympatico.ca> >> \/ >> .oOOo. >> ( -)(- ) >> (`"` `"`) >> .'\ '' /'. >> / / \ / \ \ >> ; | \/ | ; >> |/ \| >> \ / >> '-......-' >> jgs __|_ _|__ >> /| |\ >> Eyes after Frogstein No, they are not-- it's just a pic of a silly bird which includes parenthesis, hyphens, and periods... *Ironically* it looks 'similar' to your Frogstein pic... I will not bow to you over use of three characters-- especially these 3 common characters... There are so many ASCII pics that use parentheses for eyes... are you going to start whining about those pics too?... There are probably pre-PeteCasso pictures that have the exact same characters... if you are going to cry copyright.. perhaps you ought to credit those earlier ASCII artists who used the similar characters. (this is the entire point of this 'frog' thread and why I introduced the Donna Shepherd pics). <--- Seems like I have struck a chord with you peteyboy... if these issues are beaten to death and long-dead, why do you still bring them up? Claiming that I complain most on this newsgroup about my "stolen" ASCII art is untrue... I'm sure that a check on dejanews will confirm that... you are notorious for making things up and seeing issues where there are none-- or even changing the point of the discussion. Most people have agreed with this-- check dejanews if you doubt me. I'm done with this 'debate'... As far as I am concerned, I have proved my point. You are a little man with delusions of greatship. The way that you make yourself out to be important is by cutting other people down. (most recent examples: F&B- The Two Cousin and the last post in this thread). You crave attention and try to gain it at the expense of others... This seems like something preschoolers might do... I think the best way to deal with you is the ignore mode... g'head-- make more of a fool of yourself. I'm going to sit back and watch... will you let the situation drop? or will you cut me (and others) down? will you make up more untrue and debasing comments? are you going to call people names? post some more 'retaliating' unfunny cartoons? I'll bet you're going to try to egg further debate by making up some more untruths.. Instead, why don't you spend your efforts on improving your humor? Read some syndicated funnies... look at some jokes lists... See what kind of jokes people forward unto others... basically find out what makes people chuckle.. Revise your cartoons accordingly. Maybe people will remember you for something in a few years... (besides whining about others using a couple similar characters ,and your unfunny "jokes") Ah, others probably do what I do.... read your posts, shake their heads in disbelief and confusion, and then hit the 'delete' button... -joan -- .{{}}}}}}. {{{{{}}}}}}}. joan stark <spu...@juno.com> {{{{ }}}}}}}}} }}}}} _ _ {{{{{ ASCII Art Gallery: }}}} 6 . 6 {{{{ <http://www.ascii-art.com> {{{{{ .___. }}}}} {{{{{{\ \_/ /}}}}}} {{{{{{{;.___.;}}}}}}} still laughing AT you! {{{{{{{) (}}}}}}}' `""'"': :'"'"'` jgs `@`
Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> writes >> \/ >> .oOOo. >> ( -)(- ) >> (`"` `"`) >> .'\ '' /'. >> / / \ / \ \ >> ; | \/ | ; >> |/ \| >> \ / >> '-......-' >> jgs __|_ _|__ >> /| |\ >> Eyes after Frogstein by Pete Casso > [][ hi ... sorry for butting into your conversation ... but the above contextual setting for a 'frogstein' is a slightly silly position to adopt since the above doesn't look like a 'frogstein' _and_ it leaves you wide open to humorous retorts as follows ... [obasc:] . ,------------.________,-------------. . / \ / \ . / \ / \ . / \../ \ . / .oo. \ . / ( -) \ . / /"\/"\ \ . / / )( \ \ . / / )( \ \ . C /\ /\ /\ C . J / `"` `"` \ J . R / \ R . \ /`-.____..____.-'\ / . \ / \ / . >------------< >-------------< female genitalia by cjr asshole after pete casso ... no offence meant with this ... by way of example only ... it may be an idea to review the contextual setting in which a 'frogstein' stigmata can be identified as a stand-alone 'frogstein' ? [][ see yuz [][ colin -- . /\_/\ ( () |_ | |\| _/ |? .\ |\| |) .\ |_ |_ :( a a( CJRandall http://www.shieldwolf.demon.co.uk ' \___") <>>>oo<<<>X<>>>oo<<<>X<>>>oo<<<>X<>>>oo<<<>
Spunk1111 wrote: > > .oOOo. > ( -)(- ) > (`"` `"`) > > *Ironically* it looks 'similar' to your Frogstein pic... That's the admission. It now becomes a wilful copyright violation if there is no acknowledgement. The rest is just the usual BS, and it has become quite irrational, just don't drive yourself insane. =========================================================== [] oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] (> )> Aladdinstein, who despises the attention [] [] ^^ of nagging old lovers [] ===========================================================
Colin JR, First of all, it is not my policy/FAQ, but general copyright legislation/FAQ of the US (which might as well be those of any other nation, since we are only dealing with very basic issues here.) The questions you posted do not fit in this conceptual framework, and there is no point in developing alternative conceptual frameworks. You may want to give the copyright FAQ and other information sources a good read, and re-ask the questions from within the framework. Nevertheless, here are some tidbits of info. The use of a pic for standalone or composite pic usage does not change the copyright ownership of the original pic. There are copyright (and other legal) provisions on dishonorable use of pics (and logos, names, etc.) Copyright ownership is based on similarity, not how the similarity is achieved. Say that a manufacturer makes stuffed toys that looks like Frogstein (here is that inflated ego of mine again :-)) I would be able to assert my copyrights, although the stuffed toys do not contain a single letter of the alphabet. (Martin Atkins gave a good corroborating example from the other side of the fence. He drew a pic of about the same size, with the exact same letters of the alphabet, but which looks totally different from Frogstein, which illustrates that it is similarity/dissimilarity that counts, nothing else.) Look at the many Frogstein versions on my website or in the dejanews archives, that's better than any verbose descriptions. A picture is worth a thousand words, and there are many pictures. It is not really an option to put oneself or a group outside the law, copyright or otherwise. ================================================================ [] [] [] /( )\ Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( "> <" ) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] (> )><( <) Woodpeckersteins dancing the boogie-woogie [] [] ^^ ^^ [] ================================================================
h no - another frog with o's for eyes and periods and parentheses.
Better credit this to Pete.
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\_ /^\_`\ \,`---`,/ /`_/^\ _/
jgs /_/|_\ /||\ /||\ /_|\_\
And this one ...
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.-( " )-.
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jgs __\ _\ \___/ /_ /__
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|oo| Happy Holidays
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Denis Guyon wrote:
> Better credit this to Pete.
Please do not make things more messy than they already are.
I can talk for myself, thanks!
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