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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 11 May 1998.
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alt.ascii-art · 22 messages · 11 May 1998 - 17 May 1998
> Hmmm, a bit on the HUGE side for a fantasic text-editor, no?
> Compare CEd for the Amiga...

I love humongous amounts of features ...

> Besides, it's slow.

Word 98 is much faster than Word 6, in spite of humongous amounts of new
features. I don't think you have tried Word 98.

And I like the compu wizard, it is sooo cute and sooo helpful with the
humongous amounts of new features! And no, I don't work for Microsoft,
but they did a very good job this time!

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Ojoshiro <ojo...@_NOSPAM_mindless.com> ASCII art 11 May 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Pete Casso wrote:
> 
> I just installed Word 98 on my Mac and it's great! Just produced my
> first cartoon with it that I just posted, and wow, the best word
> processor/text editor the world has ever seen!

Hmmm, a bit on the HUGE side for a fantasic text-editor, no?
Compare CEd for the Amiga...

Besides, it's slow.

> While I am at it, and commenting on
> 
> the replacement of > with &gt
> the replacement of < with &lt
> etc
> 
> should we not
> 
> replace " with &quot
> 
> as well?
Actually those are &lt; and &gt;
and the quote is $quot; I know the semicolon can be left out
for SOME browsers, but the standard is with them.

Thank goodness you don't use the &#xx; notation....
I hate it! Can't decipher what char it was.

Ojoshiro!
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  |       Ojoshiro fuit hic       |
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Donovan <bak...@gwtc.net> ASCII art 11 May 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Ojoshiro wrote:
> 
> Pete Casso wrote:
> >
> > I just installed Word 98 on my Mac and it's great! Just produced my
> > first cartoon with it that I just posted, and wow, the best word
> > processor/text editor the world has ever seen!

You should try NoteTabPro for Windows 95(I don't know what other OS's it
is out for but I like it even better than Word)

> Hmmm, a bit on the HUGE side for a fantasic text-editor, no?
> Compare CEd for the Amiga...

NoteTabPro can even auto load in the systray and when you click it up
you can have it automatically load as many specific txt files as you
wish everytime you turn on the computer. They are just a tab away from
each other. And very fast loading.
 
> Besides, it's slow.
> 
> > While I am at it, and commenting on
> >
> > the replacement of > with &gt
> > the replacement of < with &lt
> > etc
> >
> > should we not
> >
> > replace " with &quot
> >
> > as well?
> Actually those are &lt; and &gt;
> and the quote is $quot; I know the semicolon can be left out
> for SOME browsers, but the standard is with them.
> 
> Thank goodness you don't use the &#xx; notation....
> I hate it! Can't decipher what char it was.

Ojoshiro!, What browser do you use that can't see &#xx notations? I'm
curious because that's what I use in my pages.

Is there anyone who can not see the &lt; and &gt; correctly?

-- 
Peace,

Donovan


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Ojoshiro <ojo...@_NOSPAM_mindless.com> ASCII art 11 May 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Donovan wrote:

> > Thank goodness you don't use the &#xx; notation....
> > I hate it! Can't decipher what char it was.
> 
> Ojoshiro!, What browser do you use that can't see &#xx notations? I'm
> curious because that's what I use in my pages.

Again, the semicolon is standard... No semicolon, well...
it's a bit like writing 'whaddya' instead of 'what do you'.
Call it 'slang' if you like =)

 
> Is there anyone who can not see the &lt; and &gt; correctly?
> 
> --
> Peace,
> 
> Donovan

Donovan,

I'm just one of those bitf##kers who reads raw html-code a lot... And I 
don't know all ASCII-codes by heart. ( Am I banned from this group now?
)
So little mnemonics like szlig, aelig, eth, copy and stuff make it more 
readable in the code.

My browser does show them, by the way. Your site is received fine =)
Fine site btw =)

Quite a poet huh =) I don't have the balls to put my own poetry on the
web.
I did put some drawings onthere...
http://ojoshiro.neroc.nl/images/

Hi, Ojoshiro!
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   --------\   .         /--------
      ------`-.|      .-'------
           ---/ `/"\  \---
              `//_-_\\'
   .----------(.'---',)----------.
  | mailto:ojo...@mindless.com  |
  |   http://ojoshiro.neroc.nl    |
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  |       Ojoshiro fuit hic       |
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Donovan <bak...@gwtc.net> ASCII art 11 May 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Ojoshiro wrote:
> 
> Donovan wrote:
> 
> > > Thank goodness you don't use the &#xx; notation....
> > > I hate it! Can't decipher what char it was.
> >
> > Ojoshiro!, What browser do you use that can't see &#xx notations? I'm
> > curious because that's what I use in my pages.
> 
> Again, the semicolon is standard... No semicolon, well...
> it's a bit like writing 'whaddya' instead of 'what do you'.
> Call it 'slang' if you like =)
> 
> 
> > Is there anyone who can not see the &lt; and &gt; correctly?
> >
> > --
> > Peace,
> >
> > Donovan
> 
> Donovan,
> 
> I'm just one of those bitf##kers who reads raw html-code a lot... And I
> don't know all ASCII-codes by heart. ( Am I banned from this group now?)

LOL, we wouldn't be able to live with ourselves if you left us! *S* Stay
and play forever! BTW, hardly any of us do either. Everytime I see a new
one, I put it in a list in my NoteTabPro. 

> So little mnemonics like szlig, aelig, eth, copy and stuff make it more
> readable in the code.

LOL, now those I don't understand! LOL

> My browser does show them, by the way. Your site is received fine =)
> Fine site btw =)

Thanks! *G*

> Quite a poet huh =) I don't have the balls to put my own poetry on the
> web.

Why not? Who cares what others think, besides if they help one person
cope with something or make just one person smile...to me, it's worth
it.

> I did put some drawings onthere...
> http://ojoshiro.neroc.nl/images/

Those are great!!!!! You sure can do eyes!!!

BTW, there is a Jim Henson show called "Bear in the Big Blue House." and
one of the character's name is Ojo, and here is what she looks
like...(keeping the art on topic.*S*)

;"",,,,,"";
 ". o o ."
 :  (O)  :  - Where's my Snowbear?
  ",`-',"
,---"""---.
| |`````| |dwb
Ojo, the small bear, from Disney's 'Bear in the Big Blue House'

She is a small orange teddy bear character.
-- 
Peace,

Donovan


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Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> ASCII art 11 May 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
I just installed Word 98 on my Mac and it's great! Just produced my
first cartoon with it that I just posted, and wow, the best word
processor/text editor the world has ever seen!

However, the "Save as HTML..." command does not work for ascii art.
Specifically, it does not introduce the PRE tag, but the less supported
FONT FACE tag. Moreover, spaces are purged which ruins the drawing.
Unless someone finds a way to adjust the settings of the application,
it's back to the old html editor or handcoding! (Or do it like me, post
in gif format  ;-))

While I am at it, and commenting on

the replacement of > with &gt
the replacement of < with &lt
etc

should we not

replace " with &quot

as well?

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Ojoshiro wrote:
> [ 8< ]
> Quite a poet huh =) I don't have the balls to put my own poetry on the
> web.
> I did put some drawings onthere...
> http://ojoshiro.neroc.nl/images/

"File Not found

The requested URL /images/ was not found on this server."

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dan...@dannyland.org 12 May 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Ojoshiro <ojoshiro@_NOSPAM_mindless.com> wrote:
> Actually those are &lt; and &gt;
> and the quote is $quot; I know the semicolon can be left out
> for SOME browsers, but the standard is with them.

> Thank goodness you don't use the &#xx; notation....
> I hate it! Can't decipher what char it was.

I prefer <q> is a really cool tag ...

As for the numerics, I dunno what number system is employed, but man ascii can
be useful;

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     The ooccttaall set:

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     010 bs   011 ht   012 nl	013 vt	 014 np   015 cr   016 so   017 si
     020 dle  021 dc1  022 dc2	023 dc3  024 dc4  025 nak  026 syn  027 etb
     030 can  031 em   032 sub	033 esc  034 fs   035 gs   036 rs   037 us
     040 sp   041  !   042  "	043  #	 044  $   045  %   046	&   047  '
     050  (   051  )   052  *	053  +	 054  ,   055  -   056	.   057  /
     060  0   061  1   062  2	063  3	 064  4   065  5   066	6   067  7
     070  8   071  9   072  :	073  ;	 074  <   075  =   076	>   077  ?
     100  @   101  A   102  B	103  C	 104  D   105  E   106	F   107  G
     110  H   111  I   112  J	113  K	 114  L   115  M   116	N   117  O
     120  P   121  Q   122  R	123  S	 124  T   125  U   126	V   127  W
     130  X   131  Y   132  Z	133  [	 134  \   135  ]   136	^   137  _
     140  `   141  a   142  b	143  c	 144  d   145  e   146	f   147  g
     150  h   151  i   152  j	153  k	 154  l   155  m   156	n   157  o
     160  p   161  q   162  r	163  s	 164  t   165  u   166	v   167  w
     170  x   171  y   172  z	173  {	 174  |   175  }   176	~   177 del

     The hheexxaaddeecciimmaall set:

     00 nul   01 soh   02 stx	03 etx	 04 eot   05 enq   06 ack   07 bel
     08 bs    09 ht    0a nl	0b vt	 0c np	  0d cr    0e so    0f si
     10 dle   11 dc1   12 dc2	13 dc3	 14 dc4   15 nak   16 syn   17 etb
     18 can   19 em    1a sub	1b esc	 1c fs	  1d gs    1e rs    1f us
     20 sp    21  !    22  "	23  #	 24  $	  25  %    26  &    27	'
     28  (    29  )    2a  *	2b  +	 2c  ,	  2d  -    2e  .    2f	/
     30  0    31  1    32  2	33  3	 34  4	  35  5    36  6    37	7
     38  8    39  9    3a  :	3b  ;	 3c  <	  3d  =    3e  >    3f	?
     40  @    41  A    42  B	43  C	 44  D	  45  E    46  F    47	G
     48  H    49  I    4a  J	4b  K	 4c  L	  4d  M    4e  N    4f	O
     50  P    51  Q    52  R	53  S	 54  T	  55  U    56  V    57	W
     58  X    59  Y    5a  Z	5b  [	 5c  \	  5d  ]    5e  ^    5f	_
     60  `    61  a    62  b	63  c	 64  d	  65  e    66  f    67	g
     68  h    69  i    6a  j	6b  k	 6c  l	  6d  m    6e  n    6f	o
     70  p    71  q    72  r	73  s	 74  t	  75  u    76  v    77	w
     78  x    79  y    7a  z	7b  {	 7c  |	  7d  }    7e  ~    7f del

     The ddeecciimmaall set:

       0 nul	1 soh	 2 stx	  3 etx    4 eot    5 enq    6 ack    7 bel
       8 bs	9 ht	10 nl	 11 vt	  12 np    13 cr    14 so    15 si
      16 dle   17 dc1	18 dc2	 19 dc3   20 dc4   21 nak   22 syn   23 etb
      24 can   25 em	26 sub	 27 esc   28 fs    29 gs    30 rs    31 us
      32 sp    33  !	34  "	 35  #	  36  $    37  %    38	&    39  '
      40  (    41  )	42  *	 43  +	  44  ,    45  -    46	.    47  /
      48  0    49  1	50  2	 51  3	  52  4    53  5    54	6    55  7
      56  8    57  9	58  :	 59  ;	  60  <    61  =    62	>    63  ?
      64  @    65  A	66  B	 67  C	  68  D    69  E    70	F    71  G
      72  H    73  I	74  J	 75  K	  76  L    77  M    78	N    79  O
      80  P    81  Q	82  R	 83  S	  84  T    85  U    86	V    87  W
      88  X    89  Y	90  Z	 91  [	  92  \    93  ]    94	^    95  _
      96  `    97  a	98  b	 99  c	 100  d   101  e   102	f   103  g
     104  h   105  i   106  j	107  k	 108  l   109  m   110	n   111  o
     112  p   113  q   114  r	115  s	 116  t   117  u   118	v   119  w
     120  x   121  y   122  z	123  {	 124  |   125  }   126	~   127 del

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dan...@dannyland.org 12 May 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Word 98 is much faster than Word 6, in spite of humongous amounts of new
> features. I don't think you have tried Word 98.

Well, especially if he has an Amiga.

To be sure, vim5.1 rocks very thoroughly, and costs a great deal less.

> And I like the compu wizard, it is sooo cute and sooo helpful with the
> humongous amounts of new features! And no, I don't work for Microsoft,
> but they did a very good job this time!

:help works well for me. :)

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Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> ASCII art 12 May 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>I just installed Word 98 on my Mac and it's great! Just produced my
>first cartoon with it that I just posted, and wow, the best word
>processor/text editor the world has ever seen!

Nah...the PC-Write 2.55 wordprocessor is the best ever for Ascii 
Artwork. It only has one monospaced font. 
Trouble is you cannot get a copy nowadays except from a local 
Shareware supplier who might have a copy in ancient archive files.  


> However, the "Save as HTML..." command does not work for ascii art.

Whaaaaaaaaaaat?   That's no damn good then...toss it away!



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> > However, the "Save as HTML..." command does not work for ascii art.
> 
> Whaaaaaaaaaaat?   That's no damn good then...toss it away!

Well, no single tool will do everything. You got to have a well balanced
toolset with tools that you like to work with. Word 98 is one such tool
for me.

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Ojoshiro <ojo...@_NOSPAM_mindless.com> ASCII art 12 May 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
dan...@dannyland.org wrote:
> 
> Ojoshiro <ojoshiro@_NOSPAM_mindless.com> wrote:
> > Actually those are &lt; and &gt;
> > and the quote is $quot; I know the semicolon can be left out
> > for SOME browsers, but the standard is with them.
> 
> > Thank goodness you don't use the &#xx; notation....
> > I hate it! Can't decipher what char it was.
> 
> I prefer <q> is a really cool tag ...
> 
> As for the numerics, I dunno what number system is employed, but man ascii can
> be useful;
> 
> Formatting page, please wait...Done.
> 
> ASCII(7)           FreeBSD Miscellaneous Information Manual           ASCII(7)

Ahhh! I smell Unix there?

=)
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              `//_-_\\'
   .----------(.'---',)----------.
  | mailto:ojo...@mindless.com  |
  |   http://ojoshiro.neroc.nl    |
  |          --oO(_)Oo--          |
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Ojoshiro <ojo...@_NOSPAM_mindless.com> ASCII art 13 May 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Veronica Karlsson wrote:
> 
> Ojoshiro wrote:
> > [ 8< ]
> > Quite a poet huh =) I don't have the balls to put my own poetry on the
> > web.
> > I did put some drawings onthere...
> > http://ojoshiro.neroc.nl/images/
> 
> "File Not found
> 
> The requested URL /images/ was not found on this server."

Sorry Veronica, 
The server is atm running a demosite for a client...
A fix, but it'll be back online next week...

sorry!

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   --------\   .         /--------
      ------`-.|      .-'------
           ---/ `/"\  \---
              `//_-_\\'
   .----------(.'---',)----------.
  | mailto:ojo...@mindless.com  |
  |   http://ojoshiro.neroc.nl    |
  |          --oO(_)Oo--          |
  |       Ojoshiro fuit hic       |
   "-----------------------------"

Ojoshiro <ojo...@_NOSPAM_mindless.com> ASCII art 13 May 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
dan...@dannyland.org wrote:
> 
> Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 
> > Word 98 is much faster than Word 6, in spite of humongous amounts of new
> > features. I don't think you have tried Word 98.
> 
> Well, especially if he has an Amiga.

Oh, I do have that old Amiga, I also have a PC that has a Linux-OS

> To be sure, vim5.1 rocks very thoroughly, and costs a great deal less.
> 
> > And I like the compu wizard, it is sooo cute and sooo helpful with the
> > humongous amounts of new features! And no, I don't work for Microsoft,
> > but they did a very good job this time!
> 
> :help works well for me. :)

Actually I'm quite allergic to Microsoft...
 
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   --------\   .         /--------
      ------`-.|      .-'------
           ---/ `/"\  \---
              `//_-_\\'
   .----------(.'---',)----------.
  | mailto:ojo...@mindless.com  |
  |   http://ojoshiro.neroc.nl    |
  |          --oO(_)Oo--          |
  |       Ojoshiro fuit hic       |
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Moreover, spaces are purged which ruins the drawing.
Unless someone finds a way to adjust the settings of the application,
it's back to the old html editor or handcoding! (Or do it like me, post
in gif format  ;-))

P'haps copy and paste the ASCII into the HTML? ('tween PRE's, o'course)

-aardvarko

Pete Casso wrote in message <355...@sympatico.ca>...

aardvarko wrote:
> 
> Moreover, spaces are purged which ruins the drawing.
> Unless someone finds a way to adjust the settings of the application,
> it's back to the old html editor or handcoding! (Or do it like me, post
> in gif format  ;-))
> 
> P'haps copy and paste the ASCII into the HTML? ('tween PRE's, o'course)

Thanks for the idea! After playing around for a little while, here is a
workflow that works for ascii art.

1) Open a new file, and "Save as HTML..."
2) Disregard the warning that appears, and hit OK
3) Paste ascii art into the file and select the entire pic
4) From the toolbar, choose "Preformatted" from the dropdown menu
5) The pic should look correct now and do a "Save"

A somewhat clunky workflow, but it works, at least for the minimal
amount of testing that I have done with IE4, NS3 and NS4. 

You can also:
a) edit the pic after step 4
b) add background color from the dropdown menu in the toolbar.

However, there is a caveat for adding color to individual characters.
The resulting pic looks correct in Word 98 itself and in IE4, but gets
rendered incorrectly in NS3 and NS4. I stopped my investigations at this
point.

The overall impression I got with Word 98 sofar, is that it can do
pretty sophisticated html layout (not just ascii art) that will be
rendered correctly by IE, but you need to exercise care for NS beyond
the lowest common denominator stuff. It is definitely not a neutral html
tool, but to be fair, none of the commercial html tools are neutral
either, although some are more neutral than others.

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Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> wrote in article
<355...@sympatico.ca>...
> > > However, the "Save as HTML..." command does not work for ascii art.
> > 
> > Whaaaaaaaaaaat?   That's no damn good then...toss it away!
> 
> Well, no single tool will do everything. You got to have a well
balanced
> toolset with tools that you like to work with. Word 98 is one such tool
> for me.

Or write on yourself, that should be possible especially with Word.

BTW. Anyone want a program that overlays one text image over another ?

Imran

Imran Ghory wrote:
> BTW. Anyone want a program that overlays one text image over another ?

Can you give more details, how does the program do the overlay (in one
or two or more layers), will the overlay be displayed in any text editor
or email or newsgroup software or do you need a special reader, etc

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The only tool anyone needs is ACIDDRAW. Available at www.acid.org. It is a
tool for artists, by artist, and it also happens to be property of the
most jammin'est art group in the world, ACID productions (c) :)


On Tue, 12 May 1998, Pete Casso wrote:

> > > However, the "Save as HTML..." command does not work for ascii art.
> > 
> > Whaaaaaaaaaaat?   That's no damn good then...toss it away!
> 
> Well, no single tool will do everything. You got to have a well balanced
> toolset with tools that you like to work with. Word 98 is one such tool
> for me.
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spinsane wrote:
> 
> The only tool anyone needs is ACIDDRAW. Available at www.acid.org. It is a
> tool for artists, by artist, and it also happens to be property of the
> most jammin'est art group in the world, ACID productions (c) :)

Perhaps tools like this belong in the FAQ, along with Email Effects, The
Draw, the tools from Kangaroo, Tony Relyea, and others.

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.----- On Sun, 17 May 1998 00:54:22 GMT, Pete Casso posted:
|> The only tool anyone needs is ACIDDRAW. Available at www.acid.org. It is a
|> tool for artists, by artist, and it also happens to be property of the
|> most jammin'est art group in the world, ACID productions (c) :)
|
|Perhaps tools like this belong in the FAQ, along with Email Effects, The
|Draw, the tools from Kangaroo, Tony Relyea, and others.
|
'-------------------------

If someone gives me more details about these programs, I will add them to the
ascii utils section of my minifaq.

Regards,
Martin

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Martin Atkins wrote:
> 
> .----- On Sun, 17 May 1998 00:54:22 GMT, Pete Casso posted:
> |> The only tool anyone needs is ACIDDRAW. Available at www.acid.org. It is a
> |> tool for artists, by artist, and it also happens to be property of the
> |> most jammin'est art group in the world, ACID productions (c) :)
> |
> |Perhaps tools like this belong in the FAQ, along with Email Effects, The
> |Draw, the tools from Kangaroo, Tony Relyea, and others.
> |
> '-------------------------
> 
> If someone gives me more details about these programs, I will add them to the
> ascii utils section of my minifaq.

There are several sources of info:

* the public info written by the makers of the tool, often posted on their
websites, do a keyword search with one of the web search engines 
* ask the makers of the tool to draft an entry for the FAQ (good publicity for
them, may not be bias free, but not much work for you)
* do a keyword search in DejaNews on the product, it means more work for you
(analyzing the comments) but it will also be more bias free. For example, the
tool mentioned in the above, ACIDDRAW is not really a web oriented tool, you
can use it for the web, but you have to bend over backwards. It is therefore
far from being "the only ascii tool you will ever need" although the tool has
interesting capabilities.

P.S. This is my first message ever on Netscape Collabra that I just downloaded
and installed a few minutes ago, sorry for any possible glitches.

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