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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 29 Aug 2003.
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[PIC] Shovel/spade

[PIC] Shovel/spade

alt.ascii-art · 12 messages · 29 Aug 2003 - 5 Sep 2003
MJP <n...@email.right.now> ASCII art 29 Aug 2003 02:49 · permalink · report
eh, for digging yourself a deep hole.
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     | `---....____...|  ..::|...____....---'#|
     |            : :\\   ..:/+:+:+:+:++++++#+|
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     | ::::::+:+:+:+:++++++#+#+#+#+###########|
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      \::::+:+:+:+:++++++#+#+#+#+############/
       `.:::::+:+:+:+:++++++#+#+#+#+#######.'
         `._:+:+:++++++#+#+#+#+#########_.'
            `._:+:+:++++++#+#+#+#+###_.'
               `--.._#+#+#+#+##_..--'
MJP                  ``--..--''

Alien Eggman <ali...@yahoo.com> ASCII art 30 Aug 2003 00:31 · permalink · report
MJP <n...@email.right.now> wrote in message news:<rnf...@4ax.com>...
> eh, for digging yourself a deep hole.
>                       |   ..:|
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>                       |  ..::|
>                       |   ..:|
>                       |  ..::|
>                       |   ..:|
>                       |  ..::|
>      -.               |   ..:|               .-
>      | `---....____...|  ..::|...____....---'#|
>      |            : :\\   ..:/+:+:+:+:++++++#+|
>      |     : : : : :::|| ..:|+:+:++++++#+#+#+#|
>      |        : : : : ||  ..|:+:+:+:++++++#+#+|
>      |   : : : : ::::::||..|:+:++++++#+#+#+#+#|
>      |      : : : : :::|| .|+:+:+:++++++#+#+#+|
>      | : : : : ::::::+:+\\/+:++++#+#+#+#+#+###|
>      |    : : : : ::::::+:+:+:+:++++++#+#+#+#+|
>      | : : : ::::::+:+:+:+:++++#+#+#+#+#######|
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>      | : : ::::+:+:+:+:++++++#+#+#+#+#########|
>      |: : : : ::::::+:+:+:+:++++#+#+#+#+######|
>      | ::::::+:+:+:+:++++++#+#+#+#+###########|
>      |: : : ::::+:+:+:+:++++++#+#+#+#+########|
>       \::::+:+:+:+:++++++#+#+#+#+############/
>        `.:::::+:+:+:+:++++++#+#+#+#+#######.'
>          `._:+:+:++++++#+#+#+#+#########_.'
>             `._:+:+:++++++#+#+#+#+###_.'
>                `--.._#+#+#+#+##_..--'
> MJP                  ``--..--''

Some kinda scout badge, or maybe a shield?


     -.                                     .-
     | `---...._________,'.__________....---'#|
     |             : :.'   '.:+:+:+:+:++++++#+|
     |      : : : _.-'       '-._++++++#+#+#+#|
     |       : :.'               '.:++++++#+#+|
     |    : : :/                   \+#+#+#+#+#|
     |     : :|                     |+++#+#+#+|
     |  : : : :\                   /+#+#+#+###|
     |     : : :'-._           _.-'+++#+#+#+#+|
     |  : : : :_..._`.       .'_..._+#+#######|
     |   : : .'     '.\     /.'     '.#+#+#+##|
     |  : : /   ___   \\   //   ___   \+######|
     |   :  |  /+:+`.  \| |/  .'+#+\  |#######|
     |   : : \ \:+:+:\  Y Y  /#+#+#/ /#+######|
     |  ::::::`-'::==+=+;=;+=+==##'-`#########|
     | : : : ::::+:+://#/ \#\\+#+#+#+#########|
      \::::+:+:+*('-'/+/   \+\'-')###########/
       `.::::::+:+'-':(     )#'-'+#+#######.'
         `._::+:+:+++++'. .'#+#########_.'
            `._::+:+:++++'++#+#+#+###_.'
               `--.._#+#++#+##_..--'
MJP/jgs              ``--.--''

MJP <n...@email.right.now> ASCII art 30 Aug 2003 18:09 · permalink · report
On 29 Aug 2003 17:31:18 -0700, ali...@yahoo.com (Alien Eggman) wrote:

8<

>Some kinda scout badge, or maybe a shield?
>
>
>     -.                                     .-
>     | `---...._________,'.__________....---'#|
>     |             : :.'   '.:+:+:+:+:++++++#+|
>     |      : : : _.-'       '-._++++++#+#+#+#|
>     |       : :.'               '.:++++++#+#+|
>     |    : : :/                   \+#+#+#+#+#|
>     |     : :|                     |+++#+#+#+|
>     |  : : : :\                   /+#+#+#+###|
>     |     : : :'-._           _.-'+++#+#+#+#+|
>     |  : : : :_..._`.       .'_..._+#+#######|
>     |   : : .'     '.\     /.'     '.#+#+#+##|
>     |  : : /   ___   \\   //   ___   \+######|
>     |   :  |  /+:+`.  \| |/  .'+#+\  |#######|
>     |   : : \ \:+:+:\  Y Y  /#+#+#/ /#+######|
>     |  ::::::`-'::==+=+;=;+=+==##'-`#########|
>     | : : : ::::+:+://#/ \#\\+#+#+#+#########|
>      \::::+:+:+*('-'/+/   \+\'-')###########/
>       `.::::::+:+'-':(     )#'-'+#+#######.'
>         `._::+:+:+++++'. .'#+#########_.'
>            `._::+:+:++++'++#+#+#+###_.'
>               `--.._#+#++#+##_..--'
>MJP/jgs              ``--.--''

Without even hooking up the ASCII-O-METER I can say that is a real nice diddle!


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         | .-----------------------.  _   .----------. |
         | |.-.     .-.     .-.    | (_)  |  \ VU    | |
         | |___:___:___:___:___:___|  _   |  .\--.   | |
         | |   :   :   :   :   :   | (_)  `----------' |
         | |    `-'     `-'     `-'|  _    _  _  _  _  |
      MJP| `-----------------------' (_)  (_)(_)(_)(_) |
         `---------------------------------------------'

Rainer Rosenthal <r.r...@web.de> ASCII art 30 Aug 2003 20:57 · permalink · report
MJP wrote
> >
> >      /    : : :'-._           _.-'+++#+#+#+#\
> >     |  : : : :_..._`.       .'_..._+#+#######|
> >     |   : : .'     '.\     /.'     '.#+#+#+##|
> >     |  : : /   ___   \\   //   ___   \+######|
> >     |   :  |  /+:+`.  \| |/  .'+#+\  |#######|
> >     |   : : \ \:(o):\  Y Y  /#(o)#/ /#+######|
> >     |  ::::::`-'::==+=+;=;+=+==##'-`#########|
> >     | : : : ::::+:+://#/ \#\\+#+#+#+#########|
> >      \::::+:+:+*('-'/+/   \+\'-')###########/
> >       `.::::::+:+'-':(     )#'-'+#+#######.'
> >       ::`._::+:+:+++++'. .'#+#########_.'::
> >        ::::`._::+:+:++++'++#+#+#+###_.':::
> >         ::::::`--.._#+#+++##_..--'::::::
> >           :::::::\  ``--.--''  /::::::::
                :::: kk.         .JJ:::::::
                  ::::::''--.--'':::::::::
                     ::::::::::::::::::
                        ''''''''''
                           ''''
> >MJP/jgs/RwR

>
> Without even hooking up the ASCII-O-METER I can say that
> is a real nice diddle!
>

               Maskimoto-san does agree

R@ineR

"Rainer Rosenthal" <r.r...@web.de> wrote in message news:<bir34f$cimt3$1...@ID-54909.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> MJP wrote
> > >
> > >      /    : : :'-._           _.-'+++#+#+#+#\
> > >     |  : : : :_..._`.       .'_..._+#+#######|
> > >     |   : : .'     '.\     /.'     '.#+#+#+##|
> > >     |  : : /   ___   \\   //   ___   \+######|
> > >     |   :  |  /+:+`.  \| |/  .'+#+\  |#######|
> > >     |   : : \ \:(o):\  Y Y  /#(o)#/ /#+######|
> > >     |  ::::::`-'::==+=+;=;+=+==##'-`#########|
> > >     | : : : ::::+:+://#/ \#\\+#+#+#+#########|
> > >      \::::+:+:+*('-'/+/   \+\'-')###########/
> > >       `.::::::+:+'-':(     )#'-'+#+#######.'
> > >       ::`._::+:+:+++++'. .'#+#########_.'::
> > >        ::::`._::+:+:++++'++#+#+#+###_.':::
> > >         ::::::`--.._#+#+++##_..--'::::::
> > >           :::::::\  ``--.--''  /::::::::
>                 :::: kk.         .JJ:::::::
>                   ::::::''--.--'':::::::::
>                      ::::::::::::::::::
>                         ''''''''''
>                            ''''
> > >MJP/jgs/RwR
>  
> >
> > Without even hooking up the ASCII-O-METER I can say that
> > is a real nice diddle!
> >
> 
>                Maskimoto-san does agree
> 
> R@ineR


For future referance, when should one add his/her own sig to the mix
after a diddle? On the shield/badge I did, I left mine off because all
I did was take one of jgs's pics and put it in the middle of the
shovel...Should that count as sig worthy?

I peronally don't really think so...because a diddle like that is
minor to say the least...While it uses a bit of thought and
imagination, very little personal creativity when into it (when
compared to adding my own symbol into it, or like R@ineR's mask).

Is there some kinda unwritten code of ethics on adding additional
sigs...like a certain percentage changed or something? I've changed
one or two lines on a few and left the original sig intact (not adding
my own). Other time's I've changed like 98% of one by the time my
diddle was done and just added my sig, even though you'd be hard
pressed to see the original work.

-Zot

MJP <n...@email.right.now> ASCII art 31 Aug 2003 15:50 · permalink · report
On 31 Aug 2003 05:55:28 -0700, ali...@yahoo.com (Alien Eggman) wrote:
8<
>
>
>For future referance, when should one add his/her own sig to the mix
>after a diddle? On the shield/badge I did, I left mine off because all
>I did was take one of jgs's pics and put it in the middle of the
>shovel...Should that count as sig worthy?
>
>I peronally don't really think so...because a diddle like that is
>minor to say the least...While it uses a bit of thought and
>imagination, very little personal creativity when into it (when
>compared to adding my own symbol into it, or like R@ineR's mask).
>
>Is there some kinda unwritten code of ethics on adding additional
>sigs...like a certain percentage changed or something? I've changed
>one or two lines on a few and left the original sig intact (not adding
>my own). Other time's I've changed like 98% of one by the time my
>diddle was done and just added my sig, even though you'd be hard
>pressed to see the original work.
>
>-Zot

the original/diddles sig theme has been discussed and is the suggested way
to do this. what might be included in the case where the addition to
the pic is not your own original work then could be:
 
original/diddled*
*added xyz by jgs

in the case where you say "98%" diddled, this sounds more like you 
reached the "new work based on" point.

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lgbeard <lgb...@bullregraud.nut> ASCII art 31 Aug 2003 16:50 · permalink · report
On 29 Aug 2003 02:49:17 GMT, MJP <n...@email.right.now> wrote:

>eh, for digging yourself a deep hole.

<snip of shovel or spade>


A gardener


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A dog doing what he knows best

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lgbeard

Alien Eggman <ali...@yahoo.com> ASCII art 31 Aug 2003 23:20 · permalink · report
I needed a Knight & found one from hjw, I needed a dwarf knight, so I
diddled...same with the Gnome.

Before                    After   Try my new weight training formula
                                    ___A___  guaranteed to work /\ or
I'll shave
             _A_                   /   |   \                   /  \   
my beard!
            / | \                 / __ | __ \                 /    \  
  /
           |.-=-.|                |/ o\_/o \|                /      \ 
 /
           )\_|_/(                (.--(_)--.)               /        \
        .=='\   /`==.          .==/.-'\_/`-.\=.           
/__________\
      .'\   (`:')   /`.      .'\ /    '-'    \ /`.         |/ O || O
\|
    _/_ |_.-' : `-._|__\_  _/_ |_\           /_|__\_      
(.--(__)--.)
   <___>'\    :   / `<___><___>'\ `.       ,' /`<___>  
.--/.-'\__/`-.\-.
   /  /   >=======<  /  / /  /   >==`-._.-'==<  /  /  .'  /    '--'   
\  `.
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 |/=,'
    \\     \-._|_,-/      \\     \--.__|__,--/  / _/     |            
 (  \
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)======[@]=====(\_/
      \\   <___X___>        \\   <_____X_____>   ||      |            
 |
       \\   \..|../          \\   \....|..../    ||     
|______________|
        \\   \ | /            \\   \   |   /     ||       
|____||____|
         \\  /V|V\             \\  / v | v \     ||       
\....||..../
          \|/  |  \             \|/   ,^    \    ||       __|   ||  
|__
           '--' `--`             '`--'  
`--'wuvw|Zot'wuv(______||______)wvhjw'wv
        Original (hjw)          Diddle1 (hjw/Zot)           Diddle3
(hjw/Zot)
                        (sorry, crammed into 80 Char's)
Diddle 2
                         ___A___
                        /   |   \  I feel so alone...Zot always leaves
me out :(
                       / __ | __ \  /  
                       |/ o\_/o \|
                       (.--(_)--.)
                   .===/.-'\_/`-.\===.
                 .'\  /           \ / `.
               /___ |_\           /_|___\_
              <____>'\ `.       ,' /`<____>
              /   /   >==`-._.-'==<  /   /
            _/==='   /  ,---:---.  \/==,'
           / _ /    |__/v^v^v^v^v\__)  \
           \)|)      |V^V^V^V^V^V^V|\__/
            ||        \`-----|-----'/
            ||         \--.__|__,--/
            ||          |____|____|
            ||         <_____X_____>
         /A || A\       \....|..../
        // \||/ \\       \   |   /
       ((   []   ))      / v | v \
        \\ /  \ //      /   ,^    \
         \V    V/       `--'   `--'  hjw/Zot
         Diddle2 if ya could not guess right away :P
                         




Which, looking back, would have been WAY easier to get a gnome from
diddling the original from below.

An Old man, a priest, and a wizard walk into a bar...         
                                                                 ____
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o ()   /|
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_(_)_  )  //
        ,'/.-'\_/`-.\`.              #\_  -  _/#                \/  _ 
\/  //
      ,' /    `-'    \ `.          ,'   `"""`   `.            ,' \    
/-.//
     /   \           /   \       ,'      \X/      `.   _    ,'    \  
/  // `.
    /     `.       ,'     \     /         X     ____\ (@) ,'       \ /
 //)   |
   /    /   `-._.-'   \    \   /          v   ,`  v  `/_\'          v 
/,`    ;
 ,-`-._/|     |=|o    |\_.-<  /    /         ( <==+==> `._)     /    
8)     /
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//(    /
 `-)|    |//   _   \\|     )/(\\)  |______@____\  ^  /    )  /
(===(//=)   /
   ||    |'    |    `|         \\  |     ( )    \ ^ /     ( /  )   // 
(  /)
   ||    |     |     |          )  |             \^/      )/   (  //  
) / (
   ||    (    )|(    )         (   |             |v       (    ) //   
(/  )
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 )  )
   ||    |     |     |          v  |             |             //     
    (
   ||    |_.--.|.--._|             |             |            //      
    )
   ||     /'""| |""`\              |_.--.__ .--._|          
//_.--._.--.__(
   []     `===' `==='                `==='  `==='            "   `=='
`=='
       Original (hjw)            Diddle1 (hjw/Zot)        Diddle2
(hjw/Zot)
     (So hard to fit in 80 char's that I had to overlap & edit the
staff :( )
I needed an old man & found one (thanks hjw) then I needed a cleric,
then a wizard...Diddling can make a HUGE differance...thus far i've
only gotten to a second diddle from someone elses work...but I imagine
I could eventually diddle the thing back to it's original work if I
ever need an old man & forget I havethe original...

(NOTE: on my webpage you may notice that the hjw sig is missing on the
cleric & old man...I plan on readding them next time I overhaul my
page, which should not be too long from now.)

From GOOGLE's Posting Style FAQ:
[quote]
Try to keep your lines of text to less than 80 characters for optimal
readability. If people quote part of your article in a followup, short
lines will show up better. Hitting return when you get to the end of
the Google Groups entry form will put a line break after each 80
characters.
[/quote]
         1         2         3         4         5         6         7
        8
123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789
123456789
If the above pics wrap then I'll fix & repost tomorrow...

Alien Eggman <ali...@yahoo.com> ASCII art 1 Sep 2003 16:10 · permalink · report
original
               _A_
              / | \
             |.-=-.|
             )\_|_/(
          .=='\   /`==.
        .'\   (`:')   /`.
      _/_ |_.-' : `-._|__\_
     <___>'\    :   / `<___>
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   _/ .'   /  ,-:-.  \/=,'
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  \(\)     |V^V^V^V^V|\_/
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      \\     \-._|_,-/
       \\     |__|__|
        \\   <___X___>
         \\   \..|../
          \\   \ | /
           \\  /V|V\
            \|/  |  \
             '--' `--`   hjw

             Diddle1
              ___A___
             /   |   \
            / __ | __ \
            |/ o\_/o \|
            (.--(_)--.)
         .==/.-'\_/`-.\=.
       .'\ /    '-'    \ /`.
     _/_ |_\           /_|__\_
    <___>'\ `.       ,'/ `<___>
    /  /   >==`-._.-'=<  /  /
  _/ .'   /  ,---:---.  \/=,'
 / _/    |__/v^v^v^v^v\__) \
 \(\)     |V^V^V^V^V^V^V|\_/
   (\\     \`-----|-----'/
     \\     \--.__|__,--/
      \\     |____|____|
       \\   <_____X_____>
        \\   \....|..../
         \\   \   |   /
          \\  / v | v \
           \|/   ,^    \
            '`--'   `--'   hjw/Zot

               Diddle1.5
                 ___A___
                /   |   \
               / __ | __ \
               |/ o\_/o \|
               (.--(_)--.)
           .===/.-'\_/`-.\===.
         .'\  /           \ / `.
        /___ |_\           /_|___\_
       <____>'\ `.       ,' /`<____>
       /   /   >==`-._.-'==<  /   /
     _/==='   /  ,---:---.  \/==,'
    / _ /    |__/v^v^v^v^v\__)  \
    \)|)     |V^V^V^V^V^V^V|\__/
     ||       \`-----|-----'/
     ||        \--.__|__,--/
     ||         |____|____|
     ||        <_____X_____>
  /A || A\      \....|..../
 // \||/ \\      \   |   /
((   []   ))     / v | v \
 \\ /  \ //     /   ,^    \
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         _/=.'   |              |/=,'
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         ||      |______________|
         ||        |____||____|
         ||        \....||..../
         ||       __|   ||   |__
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     []     `===' `==='  hjw

             Diddle1
              ,-----.
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            #\_  -  _/#
          ,'   `"""`    `.
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Rainer Rosenthal <r.r...@web.de> ASCII art 1 Sep 2003 17:02 · permalink · report
Alien Eggman showed impressing examples of
the art of diddling ...

Well, but sometimes a signature may be added
just because the diddler (or the diddleuse?)
wants to make clear that the orginal author
shouldn't be blamed :-)

Ob-ASCII Gauss

 KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
 KKKKKKKKK######KKKKKKKK#######
 KKKK##############KKKKK#######
 XX#################KKKKKK#####
 #####################KKK######
 ###########T       ::T########
 ########8          :::########
 #######.:::            #######
 K####/: ::  **.  .:._ ::######
 KK##/::   :'o- ' /<o, ::######
 KK#''||          \     :######
 KK# c             \    ::#####
 KKKK #\\      .'. /#   ::#####
 KKKK##       '    #    #######
 KKK    .::    ;---'-'  #######
 ##      \:       '   ;##KK####
 ##|       \.    ;;;..####KK###
             ## ====''#########
               ++      ###  ###
 ##*****            ####    ###
 ####*****          #X    K####
 ####\     ***           ######
 RwR  ##\    **#        #######


    --  C. F. Gauss  --

R@ineR

Alien Eggman <ali...@yahoo.com> ASCII art 5 Sep 2003 12:11 · permalink · report
"Rainer Rosenthal" <r.r...@web.de> wrote in message news:<bivu58$do8gt$1...@ID-54909.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> Alien Eggman showed impressing examples of
> the art of diddling ...
> 
> Well, but sometimes a signature may be added
> just because the diddler (or the diddleuse?)
> wants to make clear that the orginal author
> shouldn't be blamed :-)
> 
> Ob-ASCII Gauss
> 
>  KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
>  KKKKKKKKK######KKKKKKKK#######
>  KKKK##############KKKKK#######
>  XX#################KKKKKK#####
>  #####################KKK######
>  ###########T       ::T########
>  ########8          :::########
>  #######.:::            #######
>  K####/: ::  **.  .:._ ::######
>  KK##/::   :'o- ' /<o, ::######
>  KK#''||          \     :######
>  KK# c             \    ::#####
>  KKKK #\\      .'. /#   ::#####
>  KKKK##       '    #    #######
>  KKK    .::    ;---'-'  #######
>  ##      \:       '   ;##KK####
>  ##|       \.    ;;;..####KK###
>              ## ====''#########
>                ++      ###  ###
>  ##*****            ####    ###
>  ####*****          #X    K####
>  ####\     ***           ######
>  RwR  ##\    **#        #######
> 
> 
>     --  C. F. Gauss  --
> 
> R@ineR


Ok, I've just downloaded JavE and used it fer the first time...
What is 'good form' on adding a sig to converted pictures?

And if you use a program like JavE isn't it kinda cheating to begin
with?

From Watership Down (great movie, EXCELENT book) I used Jave to
convert an image, then heavily modified it. It's still nothing more
then a diddle on my part though.

       --== Hazel ==--                         _,._
                        ,..                  .'    `.
                       /.  `.               /       |
                      / \    \             /        |
                     /   \    \           /         |
                     |   |     \         /|         |
                    |    |     |        / |         |
                    |    |      \      |  |         |
                    \    |      |      |  |         |
                    \    |      ]     .'  |        .'
                     \   |      |     |   |       ,`
                      |  |       |    |   |      '|
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                       | |       |   .'   | ,' .-
                        ||     _-'`'''   |,' _'
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                      /\                / | '\
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                     | 8|              |8 /    |
                     |`.|              |,' '   |
                     |   )            (        |
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                     |                        ,[    _
                     `.                    _,. --'''
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                ''----..,.[_.. __ ,'    | ,'    ,-.
                         \    `.,'     |=,--'''''''``.
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                         |  \:-----'_,'    .          `.
                        ,'    `'''''       | |         :
                       /                 .              `'.
                      /                  |              \  `.
                      |                 /               `.   `-._
                      |                 [                |       --._
                      |                |                 \          
`-.
                      |                |
                       |               |
                      /`.               \
                    /-   `.              `
                  ,'       \             _Y
                `'      . ' ''`------''''
              -        /
         '.-'        ,'                           _,,...
        /           /       _/'''''''----.=......=      `.
      ."       _.-,'       /               \.             `.
    |,'      -' \'        :'  JavE/Zot      `.              `.

>>Alien Eggman showed impressing examples of
>>the art of diddling ...
>>
>>Well, but sometimes a signature may be added
>>just because the diddler (or the diddleuse?)
>>wants to make clear that the orginal author
>>shouldn't be blamed :-)

I like the name diddler :)
It's also to see who is to "blame" for the diddle.
Diddling is art too .. depending on how good the diddle was and how much you 
diddled it's a greater or smaller amount of art/skill on the part on the diddler.


> Ok, I've just downloaded JavE and used it fer the first time...
> What is 'good form' on adding a sig to converted pictures?

If it isn't diddled at all then I like to put my initials on it and state in the 
text that it's was a conversion done with JavE.

If I diddle it, I sometimes leave out that information if I think it wasn't 
important ..

If I .. like I have done before .. start with a image .. edit it in a 
photoeditor to remove or add details (usually i remove details that I know will 
not be converted well) , then convert it .. twiddling with the settings in JavE 
to get the best conversion (thats a skill too) and then rediddled major parts of 
the image .. or sometimes all of it (using the conversion as a guide to get the 
proportions right) then I take full credit and don't feel bad about it.

> And if you use a program like JavE isn't it kinda cheating to begin
> with?

No more cheating than using a lawnmover to cut your grass instead of a pair of 
scissors.
  .. It's just a better tool for the job.
I certainly don't see it as cheating.

> From Watership Down (great movie, EXCELENT book) I used Jave to
> convert an image, then heavily modified it. It's still nothing more
> then a diddle on my part though.

But it's YOUR work.

 >        --== Hazel ==--                         _,._
 >                         ,..                  .'    `.
 >                        /.  `.               /       |
 >                       / \    \             /        |
 >                      /   \    \           /         |
 >                      |   |     \         /|         |
 >                     |    |     |        / |         |
 >                     |    |      \      |  |         |
 >                     \    |      |      |  |         |
 >                     \    |      ]     .'  |        .'
 >                      \   |      |     |   |       ,`
 >                       |  |       |    |   |      '|
 >                       `. |       |    |   |   ,-',
 >                        | |       |   .'   | ,' .-
 >                         ||     _-'`'''   |,' _'
 >                         |[  _.'          '  .'
 >                         ||,'                |
 >                         '|             ,.. |
 >                         /.           ,'    Y
 >                        /  \          '   ,  \
 >                       /\                / | '\
 >                      |''.              ,''|   \
 >                      '  ;              ; '|   `\
 >                      | 8|              |8 /    |
 >                      |`.|              |,' '   |
 >                      |   )            (        |
 >                      Y                        .'
 >                      |                        ,[    _
 >                      `.                    _,. --'''
 >                       '.            .-:.,-' /   (
 >                 ''----..,.[_.. __ ,'    | ,'    ,-.
 >                          \    `.,'     |=,--'''''''``.
 >                 ..-----''\::'  |'      ,'   ,         .
 >                          |  \:-----'_,'    .          `.
 >                         ,'    `'''''       | |         :
 >                        /                 .              `'.
 >                       /                  |              \  `.
 >                       |                 /               `.   `-._
 >                       |                 [                |       --._
 >                       |                |                 \
 > `-.
 >                       |                |
 >                        |               |
 >                       /`.               \
 >                     /-   `.              `
 >                   ,'       \             _Y
 >                 `'      . ' ''`------''''
 >               -        /
 >          '.-'        ,'                           _,,...
 >         /           /       _/'''''''----.=......=      `.
 >       ."       _.-,'       /               \.             `.
 >     |,'      -' \'        :'  JavE/Zot      `.              `.

Nice rabbit.

Here's my diddle :


    --== Hazel ==--                         _,--.
                      __                  .'.....:
                    .'  `.               /.......|
                   /`.    \             /.:.:....|
                  /...\    \           /.........|
                 :....|     \         /|:.:.:.:.:|
                 |....|      \       / |.:.:.:.:.|
                 |:.:.|      :      '  |:::::::::|
                 :.:.:|      |     :   |::::::.:.|
                 :%:%:|      |     |   |%:%:%:%::'
                  \%:%|      .     |   |:%:%::::/
                   :%%|       '    |   .%%%:%:,/
                   `.%|       |    |  '%:%:,-'/
                    ::|       |   .'  |%%,' .'
                    `.|     _'"--'    |,'  /
                     ||  .-'          '  .'
                     ||,'                ;
                     '|             .-. ;
                     /.            /    :
                    /  \          '   _  \
                   /\                / |  \
                  |.-.              .-.|   \
                  ''_:              :_'|    :
                  |(#|              |#);    |
                  |`.|              |.'     |
                  |   )            (        |
                  |                         ;
                  :                        /|  __
                   `                    _,----'
            __      \            _.-.,=' /   \
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                      \    `./      / =----..__ `.
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                      |  \`-----'_,'    .'         `.
                     ,'   ``---''      /             \
                    /                 /               `.
                   :                 /               \  `.
                   |                ;                 :   `-._
                   |                |                 |       `-._
                   |                |                 ;           `-
                   |                |
                   '                :
                   /` . . .       . .\
                 ,'   `  . . .  ......:
               .'       \.::::%%%:%::::)
             .'      .-`''`-------``"""
          _,'       /
      _.-'        .'                           _,---.
     /           /        ,-"```"-----._____.-'%:%:%:`.
   .'       _.-,'       ,'              \.%%%%%%%:%:%::`.   Zot/CJ
  /      ,-'  ;        ;                 `.%%%:%:%:::::::`..

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