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Original Usenet message from alt.ascii-art, 5 Sep 2003.
[PIC] Hazel (Rabbit)
>>Alien Eggman showed impressing examples of
>>the art of diddling ...
>>
>>Well, but sometimes a signature may be added
>>just because the diddler (or the diddleuse?)
>>wants to make clear that the orginal author
>>shouldn't be blamed :-)

I like the name diddler :)
It's also to see who is to "blame" for the diddle.
Diddling is art too .. depending on how good the diddle was and how much you 
diddled it's a greater or smaller amount of art/skill on the part on the diddler.


> Ok, I've just downloaded JavE and used it fer the first time...
> What is 'good form' on adding a sig to converted pictures?

If it isn't diddled at all then I like to put my initials on it and state in the 
text that it's was a conversion done with JavE.

If I diddle it, I sometimes leave out that information if I think it wasn't 
important ..

If I .. like I have done before .. start with a image .. edit it in a 
photoeditor to remove or add details (usually i remove details that I know will 
not be converted well) , then convert it .. twiddling with the settings in JavE 
to get the best conversion (thats a skill too) and then rediddled major parts of 
the image .. or sometimes all of it (using the conversion as a guide to get the 
proportions right) then I take full credit and don't feel bad about it.

> And if you use a program like JavE isn't it kinda cheating to begin
> with?

No more cheating than using a lawnmover to cut your grass instead of a pair of 
scissors.
  .. It's just a better tool for the job.
I certainly don't see it as cheating.

> From Watership Down (great movie, EXCELENT book) I used Jave to
> convert an image, then heavily modified it. It's still nothing more
> then a diddle on my part though.

But it's YOUR work.

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Nice rabbit.

Here's my diddle :


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