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Original Usenet message from alt.ascii-art, 26 Sep 1998.
Re: About rendering ascii code in a .txt medium

Re: About rendering ascii code in a .txt medium

In article <360...@sympatico.ca>, Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> writes:
|> > The fact remains, regardless of what fonts the artist uses, the viewer will need
|> > to have those fonts on their computer.
|> 
|> Not if font substitution maps are used.
What in the world is a "font substitution map" ???

|> > Either give us a quote showing that there are no such limitations,
|> > or concede the argument that the ascii standard limits ascii to the being
|> > 7 or 8 bit text in the range 0x20 to 0xFF.
|> 
|> I can't post a quote


|> The coding table merely defines ascii code.
If the table defines ascii code, then that which is not in the table
is not ascii.  There are no gifs in the table, and hence gifs are not
ascii.

|> The context of this exchange is that ascii code alone is not sufficient for
|> ascii art. You need to add typographical code, or the artwork won't even
|> appear!
That's like saying you need to add a computer to ascii art, or the art won't
appear.

|> > Hmm, I seem to have missed these so called "proven facts" - could you repost
|> > them, along with names and references of who proved them?
|> 
|> All my views were backed up with proven facts, if you disagree, please
|> identify which view and we can discuss.
Ya still haven't told me those "proven facts" which, as I mentioned, I seem
to have missed.  Where are they? [at the very least, which articles did you post
them in?]

|> > |> It is exactly the denial that the other (typographical) code element exist,
|> > |> that is like putting your head in the sand. It is exactly the other code
|> > |> element that causes 20% troubles and becoming worse. The ascii code element
|> > |> itself does not cause any problems.
|> > You are *partially* right - it is a denial that typographical code is part of
|> > the ascii character set;  There are no ascii characters to specify any sort
|> > of typography.  Any type of code that does so specify typography is not ascii.
|> 
|> I have never said that typographical code is part of the ascii character set.
|> 
|> What I said was that typographical code (such as font) is part and parcel of
|> ascii art. Big difference! 
I will [temporarily, and only for the sake of argument] concede that typographical
code might be part and parcel of ascii art.  If so, what typographical code is
there in a gif?

|> Please reread my articles carefully, I have said things again and again and
|> again, such as me not wanting to do anyone to do anything, mainstream will
|> take care of all those developments!
Hmm, I think I'd like to meet this Mr. Mainstream of yours... It must be great
having a friendly programmer who will do everything you want him to do, and make
copies that will run on every platform in existance.

|> 
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From: gol...@cii3130-20.rcs.rpi.edu (Benjamin Goldberg)
Subject: Re: About rendering ascii code in a .txt medium
Date: 1998/09/26
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References: <Pin...@onyx.southwind.net> <360...@sympatico.ca> <6u9edj$9e...@vccsouth-21.rcs.rpi.edu> <360...@sympatico.ca> <Pin...@onyx.southwind.net> <360...@sympatico.ca> <Pin...@onyx.southwind.net> <360...@sympatico.ca> <6uf8e3$7p...@cii3130-22.rcs.rpi.edu> <360...@sympatico.ca>
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