Re: [pic] Font

Pete Casso wrote:

> >We'd have to definiate what's ascii art, artform, medium, thechniques
> >and maybe a few other things if we want this dicussion to be constructive.
>
> Good idea. My definition of ascii art is simply pics made with a keyboard.
> That is the artform in which individual styles exist.
>
> ascii is blessed with myriads and myriads and myriads of media, i.e. you can
> display ascii pics in .txt or .doc or .gif or .html etc etc etc.
>

This is where it all went wrong in our previous discussion.
We don't have the same definition about what ascii art is.

1)-Ascii art is a computer (!) artform. It uses the computer as medium.
   The computer renders ascii art through the screen.
   (note: ASCII has been created to exchange infomation from a computer
   to an other, it is a product of the computer era: art using ASCII
   can only exist on a computer).

2)-The component of ascii art is the American Standard blah blah...
   in short: ASCII.
   ASCII includes: a certain amount of typogaphic characters
                   a certain amount of control codes
                   a certain amount of bits

   ascii art uses: a certain amount of typogaphic characters
                   a fixed width font
                   a certain amount of bits

3)- An -ascii pic- is the result of the practice of ascii art.

note: I guess you can get ascii art on the wall if you project
      the rendering  of your screen on it.  :)


Ascii art must use ASCII (as discribed above)as "material" (like a
painting must use paint).
When you turn an ascii art picture into a gif (or whatever) you get a gif
(a reproduction) of an ascii pic but it is not -technicaly speaking-
ascii art anymore.
(please note the difference between -ascii art- and -ascii pic-)

But: You can, indeed, save ascii pics in a bunch of different computer formats,
     you can even print them.   :)

As I wrote before ASCII (thus ascii art too) is a product of the
computer era: therefore art made on a typewriter couldn't possibly
be called ascii art.
I won't even talk about pencil & paper.  ;)


> I myself routinely move ascii code back and forth between a variety of
> (web-related) media to play with the ascii pics that appear in these media and
> to experiment with the capabilities of these media (such as animation.) That
> is what I meant with techniques closely related to media.
>
> >How do we go further from here?
>
> Well, in contrast to the myriads and myriads and myriads of media that ascii
> is blessed with, the ascii community has limited itself to the .txt medium and
> treats the .html medium as a necessary evil to display ascii pics on the web.
>
> This is a self-limiting behaviour of the ascii community that has led to
> lively debates ;-)) in the past. And if I said things like "the ascii
> community does not take advantage of the full potential of the .html medium"
> then there was guaranteed somebody jumping up and down ;-)))
>
> But, I was merely stating facts based on first hand experience with the ascii
> artform in a variety of media. Anyway, I have posted many lengthy articles
> showing means and ways for the ascii community to go beyond .txt and .html and
> utilize other media.
>
> Reviewing what I just wrote, I think I sound more like a prophet or researcher
> than a politician ;-))

  :)
How about a mad scientist? PeteCassoStein?

Well, I don't know who is right and who isn't (if someone is right at all).
Let history will be the judge of that and let's go back to drawing.



[the Mad Scientist PeteCassoStein,
 at work, in his laboratorium]


    "The article is immersed in the gif format producing
     immediate asciing, typical with non fixed font.
     After about 15 minutes, the article is removed
     and washed thoroughly in Shokwave solution. It is
     allowed to dry in air, and may be HTML finished when dry."
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