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Original Usenet message from alt.ascii-art, 1 Mar 1998.
Re: SigZag - !!!! The ULTIMATE signature creater !!!!

Re: SigZag - !!!! The ULTIMATE signature creater !!!!

Andreas Freise <fre...@stud.uni-hannover.de> wrote:
> The more I read your posts the more I believe that you don't really
> see ascii-art as art. Do you? Do you defend free copying of other art
> forms as well, or is it just because it's part of the big and mighty
> net? 

A magazine might pay $100+ for a poem.  I have a very hard time picturing 
an ascii image of 2k that would be worth that much to anyone.

Here's the finest ascii-art I've ever seen:
                                                     oo
                                                       \___
                                                       /~  \
                                                      /  \ |
                                                          ||
                                                         _|\__
                                                    """;;;;;;;;\
                                              ///"""""""";;;;;;;\
                                  ___////+++++""""""""""""";;;;@@\
                    __________///////++++++++++++++""""""""@@@@%%|
         ....__/0)///0)//0)//0)/++////////++++++++++"""@@@%%%%%/
   ..---0)/--------////////////////+++++++/////+++++@@%%%%%%%/
    ..///---0)---0)///0)//0)///0)/////////+++++====@%%%%%%/
 ...0)....//----///------////////////+++++///=    \\ \\/
    //../0)--0)///0)///0)///0)//++++/////          \| \|
    --///--------///////////+++/////              _/   |
.-//..0).-/0)--0)--0)--0)--..                          |
      .......--/////////.                             _|
             .0)..0)..

It was done by a Japanese artist, whose name I've never found. But I can't 
imagine _any_ use of it that the artist could protest as being an
infringement.

Here's an illustration I did for my ezine "Keepers", simply by pasting two
stolen works together:

                       /\/\
                       \  /            /\/\
               /\/\     \/             \  /    /\/\
        /\  /\ \  /                     \/     \  //\  /\
       /  \/  \ \/       _______________        \//  \/  \  /\/\
       \      /         /               \         \      /  \  /
 /\/\   \    /         /                 \         \    /    \/
 \  /    \  /        //                   \/\       \  /          /\/\
  \/      \/         \|   XXXX     XXXX   | /        \/           \  /
                      |   XXXX     XXXX   |/                       \/ /\/\
"Lindbergh was   /\/\ |   XXX       XXX   |                /\/\       \  /
 known for cruel \  / |         X         |                \  /        \/
  practical     /\/\  \__      XXX      __/             /\/\\/
   jokes..."    \  /    |\     XXX     /|               \  /
       /\  /\    \/     | |           | |                \/       /\/\
      /  \/  \          | I I I I I I I |                         \  /
      \      /          |  I I I I I I  |                          \/
       \    /           \_             _/     /\/\
  /\/\  \  /              \_         _/       \  /        /\/\
  \  /   \/                 \_______/          \/         \  /
   \/                                                      \/

I think this is emotionally powerful, and I might cry 'plagiarism' if 
somebody appropriated it as their own art, but I can't see complaining if 
it ends up in an ascii-archive, even without attribution.

These are my feelings.  They're not derived from a pre-existing theory. 
I can't yet articulate why exactly I feel this way.  But I think it's very
accurately in tune with legal precedents, anyway.

Another possible explanation that occurs to me:  the ascii-artists has 
very little _fine control_ over the appearance of the work.  Fonts make 
huge differences... so there just isn't that much potential for fine art.

Keepers can be tracked down via:
<URL:http://www.mcs.net/~jorn/html/keepers.html>

-- 
I EDIT THE NET: <URL:http://www.mcs.net/~jorn/html/weblogs/weblog.html>
"Tell me, Eutrapelus, which is the weaker person: 
he that yields to another, or he that is yielded to?"  --Erasmus

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From: jor...@mcs.com (Jorn Barger)
Subject: Re: SigZag - !!!! The ULTIMATE signature creater !!!!
Date: 1998/03/01
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Organization: The Responsible Party (conservative left)
Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art
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