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Fokker F100

Fokker F100

alt.ascii-art · 18 messages · 15 May 2003 - 19 May 2003
Hello...

Yes, time for another ASCII art piece that is too wide for Usenet...

As usual, it can be found on http://www.tsd-ltd.demon.co.uk under the
"ASCII Art" section.

Enjoy, and let me know what you all think !  :o)

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 _.--- Graeme Porter spoke in alt.ascii-art --------._ 
> Yes, time for another ASCII art piece that is too wide for Usenet...

Here I am always trying to keep every drawing I do within the 72 char
limit and you come in and make me look the fool. =)

BTW you should mark which ones drawings are new.  Also I can view wide
asciis just fine.  Could you post the drawing as well as a link? 

'---...____ Faux_Pseudo ________________...---~~~

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  Don't pet the  : Now: /korn/issues/08_wake_up.mp3
 sweaty things.  : Fwd: 980_1990/01_u2_-_pride__in_the_name_of_love_.mp3

Faux_Pseudo wrote in message ...
> _.--- Graeme Porter spoke in alt.ascii-art --------._
>> Yes, time for another ASCII art piece that is too wide for Usenet...
>
>Here I am always trying to keep every drawing I do within the 72 char
>limit and you come in and make me look the fool. =)

Don't worry about that; I think there's a special talent in being able to
make ASCII's as good as yours are with such a restriction.

Your ASCIIs rock !

>BTW you should mark which ones drawings are new.  Also I can view wide
>asciis just fine.  Could you post the drawing as well as a link?

Unfortunately I'm restricted to using Outlook Express here (at work), and
that's where I post most of my pictures from.  I can never get OE to post
wide pictures without it mucking up badly.

The Fokker F100 was the first drawing I've done purely from home in some
time.

Should be no problem to mark the new ones as New - but how long do they stay
"New" for ??

Do you know where I could get a decent free text-only counter from ?  My ISP
(Demon Internet) don't let home users have their own CGI scripts, and while
they have a cgibin, the counter in that produces graphical output.

Because I can't upload and use my own CGIs, it would need to run from
another server.  Any suggestions ?

--
Graeme Porter
   -^-_  _
   / [_][_]_:_  Proud owner of a 1978
  /|  _||_  v  Pearl Fiberglass Shell kit
   | /    \ |
-=/=\\____//=\=jaa  "I married Miss right, I just didn't
                     know her first name was 'Always'"
                                       -- Anonymous

"Anonymous" <gue...@guest.net> skrev i meddelandet
 news:ba23ni$8ug$1...@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk
>
> Do you know where I could get a decent free text-only counter from ?  My ISP
> (Demon Internet) don't let home users have their own CGI scripts, and while
> they have a cgibin, the counter in that produces graphical output.
>
> Because I can't upload and use my own CGIs, it would need to run from
> another server.  Any suggestions ?

I could make one for you, but I don't know how you would include it in
your page. An <IMG> could easily point to another server, but how would
you include another HTML page in yours? Does your ISP allow server-side
includes?

--
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.||. http://www.Nerd-Boy.net
 bb  jg

Joaquim G�ndara screef

>> Because I can't upload and use my own CGIs, it would need to run from
>> another server.  Any suggestions ?

> I could make one for you, but I don't know how you would include it in
> your page. An <IMG> could easily point to another server, but how would
> you include another HTML page in yours? Does your ISP allow server-side
> includes?

<iframe>'s can do that trick.
-- 
Dennis K.
 I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. 

Anonymous <gue...@guest.net> ASCII art 16 May 2003 10:47 · permalink · report
Dennis Kaarsemaker wrote in message
<1859m52u8uwgu$.dl...@sunflower.daemon.sh>...
>Joaquim G�ndara screef
>
>>> Because I can't upload and use my own CGIs, it would need to run from
>>> another server.  Any suggestions ?
>
>> I could make one for you, but I don't know how you would include it in
>> your page. An <IMG> could easily point to another server, but how would
>> you include another HTML page in yours? Does your ISP allow server-side
>> includes?
>
><iframe>'s can do that trick.

[GASP!]

FRAMES ???

*** E V I L ***

--
Graeme Porter
   -^-_  _
   / [_][_]_:_  Proud owner of a 1978
  /|  _||_  v  Pearl Fiberglass Shell kit
   | /    \ |
-=/=\\____//=\=jaa  "I married Miss right, I just didn't
                     know her first name was 'Always'"
                                       -- Anonymous

Joaquim G�ndara wrote in message ...
>"Anonymous" <gue...@guest.net> skrev i meddelandet
> news:ba23ni$8ug$1...@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk
>>
>> Do you know where I could get a decent free text-only counter from ?  My
ISP
>> (Demon Internet) don't let home users have their own CGI scripts, and
while
>> they have a cgibin, the counter in that produces graphical output.
>>
>> Because I can't upload and use my own CGIs, it would need to run from
>> another server.  Any suggestions ?
>
>I could make one for you, but I don't know how you would include it in
>your page. An <IMG> could easily point to another server, but how would
>you include another HTML page in yours? Does your ISP allow server-side
>includes?

No; ordinary home users like me don't get write access to the cgibin.  That
would enable me to make a professional, scripted, business website.

Business account holders are given this priveledge.

Would it be possible to make a Javascript that would run from my page, that
would access something on your page (say, an empty text file), and have a
cgi on your server monitor the number of times that file was accessed?

--
Graeme Porter
   -^-_  _
   / [_][_]_:_  Proud owner of a 1978
  /|  _||_  v  Pearl Fiberglass Shell kit
   | /    \ |
-=/=\\____//=\=jaa  "I married Miss right, I just didn't
                     know her first name was 'Always'"
                                       -- Anonymous

Anonymous screef

> *** E V I L ***

Yep, very evil >:)

On my site i don't use frames, hell i've even kicked out the tables. Just
css for positioning. That is good evil :)

ob-frame:

.----------------------.
|  ___        ___      |
| |    \    /  |   |   |
| |--   \  /   |   |   |
| |___   \/   _|_  |__ |
|                      |
|                      |
`----------------------'
-- 
Dennis K.
 I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. 

> Joaquim G�ndara wrote in message ...
> >"Anonymous" <gue...@guest.net> skrev i meddelandet
> > news:ba23ni$8ug$1...@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk
> >>
> >> Do you know where I could get a decent free text-only counter from ?
> >
> >I could make one for you, but I don't know how you would include it in
> >your page. An <IMG> could easily point to another server, but how would
> >you include another HTML page in yours? Does your ISP allow server-side
> >includes?
>
> No; ordinary home users like me don't get write access to the cgibin.  That
> would enable me to make a professional, scripted, business website.
>
> Business account holders are given this priveledge.
>
> Would it be possible to make a Javascript that would run from my page, that
> would access something on your page (say, an empty text file), and have a
> cgi on your server monitor the number of times that file was accessed?

I don't think that's possible. For security reasons, Java and JavaScript
aren't allowed to access anything outside of their domain. I think the
only solution is an IFRAME, like Dennis suggested. In that case you'd
just have to put

  <iframe src="http://www.nerd-boy.net/counter/graeme" frameborder="0"
          width=100 height=40 scrolling="no">
    Error   <!-- "Error" shown when nerd-boy.net is down -->
  </iframe>

or something like it somewhere on your page. The URL would just be a
PHP page that shows a higher number each time it's accessed.

Some website claimed that you could also use <OBJECT> to include an
HTML file in another, but I couldn't get their example to work, so
obviously it doesn't work in all browsers. That's probably true for
<IFRAME> as well, so you might want to do this:

  <iframe src="http://www.nerd-boy.net/counter/graeme" frameborder="0"
          width="100" height="40" scrolling="no">
    <object data="http://www.nerd-boy.net/counter/graeme">
      Error   <!-- "Error" shown when nerd-boy.net is down -->
    </object>
  </iframe>

That way, if a browser doesn't support <IFRAME>, it tries to use the
<OBJECT> code instead.

--
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 bb  jg

Joaquim G�ndara wrote in message ...
>  <iframe src="http://www.nerd-boy.net/counter/graeme" frameborder="0"
>          width="100" height="40" scrolling="no">
>    <object data="http://www.nerd-boy.net/counter/graeme">
>      Error   <!-- "Error" shown when nerd-boy.net is down -->
>    </object>
>  </iframe>
>
>That way, if a browser doesn't support <IFRAME>, it tries to use the
><OBJECT> code instead.

If I cut-and-paste the above, will it work (as in, is
http://www.nerd-boy.net/counter/graeme a valid URL for a counter ?)

If so, I will have a crack at that tonight  :O)

Thanks !

--
Graeme Porter
   -^-_  _
   / [_][_]_:_  Proud owner of a 1978
  /|  _||_  v  Pearl Fiberglass Shell kit
   | /    \ |
-=/=\\____//=\=jaa  "I married Miss right, I just didn't
                     know her first name was 'Always'"
                                       -- Anonymous

"Anonymous" <gue...@guest.net> skrev i meddelandet
 news:ba2llb$jb8$1...@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk
> Joaquim G�ndara wrote in message ...
> >  <iframe src="http://www.nerd-boy.net/counter/graeme" frameborder="0"
> >          width="100" height="40" scrolling="no">
> >    <object data="http://www.nerd-boy.net/counter/graeme">
> >      Error   <!-- "Error" shown when nerd-boy.net is down -->
> >    </object>
> >  </iframe>
> >
> >That way, if a browser doesn't support <IFRAME>, it tries to use the
> ><OBJECT> code instead.
>
> If I cut-and-paste the above, will it work (as in, is
> http://www.nerd-boy.net/counter/graeme a valid URL for a counter ?)

It is now, after a bit of coding. :)

> If so, I will have a crack at that tonight  :O)
>
> Thanks !

No problem, glad to help.

--
 OO  Joaquim G�ndara
.||. http://www.Nerd-Boy.net
 bb  jg

Veronica Karlsson <v...@hotbrev.com> ASCII art 16 May 2003 13:52 · permalink · report
Graeme Porter wrote:
> Yes, time for another ASCII art piece that is too wide for Usenet...

You just have to tame your software (or find some that can be tamed).  :)

Here it is:

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         :   .  :   :   . '                    :     :                                                            `"""""::____________..-'
        .'____________________________________.'____.'_________________________________________________________________________:
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========:    '          ' .                   :     :    .:#:                     .'    .--"""""""""""""""""""""""""""-------"-----------------........................_______________________  
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BoD <Bo...@JRAF.org> 16 May 2003 17:38 · permalink · report
Fabulous !!
Congratulations

BoD

> Graeme Porter wrote:
> Here it is:

Faux_Pseudo <Fau...@yahoo.comERCIAL> ASCII art 16 May 2003 22:04 · permalink · report
 _.--- Anonymous spoke in alt.ascii-art --------._ 
> Should be no problem to mark the new ones as New - but how long do they stay
> "New" for ??

I keep my stuff new until the next webiste update.  I suppose that if
I were to make frequent updateds that I might start including the
date that each item was created.  

#!/bin/bash
for f in * ; do 
    # I alwasy 'touch' each file in the dir after an update so that I
    # can spot new files right away when I go for the next update. 
    DATE=$(ls -l $f | awk '{print$7}') 
    MONTH=$(ls -l $f | awk '{print$6}')
    if [[ "$MONTH" != "May" ]] ; then 
       continue
    else
       if [ $DATE -gt 6 ] ; then 
	  FILEDATA=$(echo $f NEW: $MONTH/$DATE/2003 | sed 's/.html//')
          echo "<a href=\"http://asciipron/fp/ascii/pr0n/$f\">$FILEDATA</A>"
       fi
    fi
done >> index.html
EOF

This is a bit more complicated then what I normally do but would
produce much better results:
<a href="http://asciipron/fp/ascii/pr0n/ellen_stratton.html">ellen_stratton NEW: May/12/2003</A>
<a href="http://asciipron/fp/ascii/pr0n/laurie_wallace.html">laurie_wallace NEW: May/13/2003</A>

My normal method is:
ls -l | grep -v May[[:blank:]]*6 | awk '{print$NF}' >> index.html

Looks like I have a new way of doing things...
 
> Do you know where I could get a decent free text-only counter from ?

I think I asked about this a long time ago in on of the html groups...
Google Search: author:faux_pseudo html counter	
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author%3Afaux_pseudo%20html%20counter&ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en

> Because I can't upload and use my own CGIs, it would need to run from
> another server.  Any suggestions ?

Ask someone who works with websites. =)
I only know[0] enough html to get by.  Anything more fancy then I
already know is too much for me to bother with.  I am an ascii artist
and a programer, but I don't want to have to blend the two via complex
html.

[0] and care to know

'---...____ Faux_Pseudo ________________...---~~~

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what we give away: Fwd: /mnt/box/hendrix/Hendrix_Misc/03_-_Tax_Free.mp3

In message <ba23ni$8ug$1...@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk>  "Anonymous"
<gue...@guest.net> wrote:

>Faux_Pseudo wrote in message ...
>> _.--- Graeme Porter spoke in alt.ascii-art --------._
>>> Yes, time for another ASCII art piece that is too wide for Usenet...
>>
>>Here I am always trying to keep every drawing I do within the 72 char
>>limit and you come in and make me look the fool. =)
>
>Don't worry about that; I think there's a special talent in being able to
>make ASCII's as good as yours are with such a restriction.
>
>Your ASCIIs rock !

I'll second that !

On Fri, 16 May 2003 12:13:26 +0200, "Joaquim G�ndara" <cla...@lords.com>
wrote:

> "Anonymous" <gue...@guest.net> skrev i meddelandet
>  news:ba23ni$8ug$1...@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk
> >
> > Do you know where I could get a decent free text-only counter from ?  My ISP
> > (Demon Internet) don't let home users have their own CGI scripts, and while
> > they have a cgibin, the counter in that produces graphical output.
> >
> > Because I can't upload and use my own CGIs, it would need to run from
> > another server.  Any suggestions ?
> 
> I could make one for you, but I don't know how you would include it in
> your page. An <IMG> could easily point to another server, but how would
> you include another HTML page in yours? Does your ISP allow server-side
> includes?

One way to do text-only counters would by JavaScript, I think; that can
reference external scripts. Then use something like <script
src="http://www.example.com/counter.js?site=wherever"> and have that
/counter.js be a CGI program which counts the hit and then spits out
some JavaScript which does document.write("2837") or the like.

Requires that the visitor have JS turned on, of course.

Cheers,
Philip
-- 
Philip Newton <nos...@gmx.li>
That really is my address; no need to remove anything to reply.
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

Una <un...@semicircle.org> 19 May 2003 18:49 · permalink · report
I've had great experiences with NextGenStats and highly recommend
them. They have free web stats and hit counters which can be
invisible, text-based, or one of 165 graphical styles. Their code uses
just one line of javascript so installation couldn't be any easier.

http://www.nextgenstats.com/

Joaquim Gândara <cla...@lords.com> ASCII art 19 May 2003 20:50 · permalink · report
"Philip Newton" <pne...@newton.digitalspace.net> skrev i meddelandet
 news:m4l...@4ax.com
> On Fri, 16 May 2003 12:13:26 +0200, "Joaquim G�ndara" <cla...@lords.com>
> wrote:
> > "Anonymous" <gue...@guest.net> skrev i meddelandet
> >  news:ba23ni$8ug$1...@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk
> > >
> > > Do you know where I could get a decent free text-only counter from ?  My ISP
> > > (Demon Internet) don't let home users have their own CGI scripts, and while
> > > they have a cgibin, the counter in that produces graphical output.
> > >
> > > Because I can't upload and use my own CGIs, it would need to run from
> > > another server.  Any suggestions ?
> >
> > I could make one for you, but I don't know how you would include it in
> > your page. An <IMG> could easily point to another server, but how would
> > you include another HTML page in yours? Does your ISP allow server-side
> > includes?
>
> One way to do text-only counters would by JavaScript, I think; that can
> reference external scripts. Then use something like <script
> src="http://www.example.com/counter.js?site=wherever"> and have that
> /counter.js be a CGI program which counts the hit and then spits out
> some JavaScript which does document.write("2837") or the like.
>
> Requires that the visitor have JS turned on, of course.

Good idea. The counter on my website now has two different modes.
By default, it just spits out the new number, like in this example:
http://www.nerd-boy.net/counter/nerdboy

That can be inserted into a HTML-page by using an <IFRAME>. If you'd
rather use JavaScript, there's the other mode, which you can access by
just adding .js to the user id.
http://www.nerd-boy.net/counter/nerdboy.js

This one can be inserted into a page by using JavaScript:
<script language="Javascript"
src="http://www.nerd-boy.net/counter/nerdboy.js"></script>

The JavaScript style is seamless, it's like it's really part of the
webpage, not like the ugly <IFRAME>.

Now, if someone has JavaScript turned off, their browser will ignore
the <SCRIPT> tags and instead use their contents, so we can make the
counter code as failsafe as possible like this:

<script language="Javascript"
        src="http://www.nerd-boy.net/counter/nerdboy.js">
  <iframe src="http://www.nerd-boy.net/counter/nerdboy" frameborder="0"
          width="100" height="40" scrolling="no">
    <object data="http://www.nerd-boy.net/counter/nerdboy">
      Error   <!-- "Error" shown when nerd-boy.net is down -->
    </object>
  </iframe>
</script>

Disclaimer: Produced no output when I turned
            off JavaScript in Ghostzilla.

obascii:

    Irasshaimase!
        ,
       O
  ____ -)-
 |  | |/\

A guy behind a counter, saying "Welcome!" in Japanese.

--
 OO  Joaquim G�ndara
.||. http://www.Nerd-Boy.net
 bb  jg

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