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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 11 Nov 2000.
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some ascii of mine

some ascii of mine

alt.ascii-art · 20 messages · 11 Nov 2000 - 24 Nov 2000
Eugene Goede <mor...@xs4all.nl> ASCII art 11 Nov 2000 00:00 · permalink · report
I hope it'll work out with the spaces and more, but here's a wholoe street
in ascii :-))

forgive me if it doesnt work out the way it look son my computer
You have to copy it to a wordpad file an the look.... its a very long
file...
let me know if you saw it okay, 'cause it looks very nice on my wordpad!!




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"Eugene Goede" <mor...@xs4all.nl> wrote in message news:8ujp4l$cob$1...@news1.xs4all.nl...
> I hope it'll work out with the spaces and more, but here's a wholoe street
> in ascii :-))
>
> forgive me if it doesnt work out the way it look son my computer
> You have to copy it to a wordpad file an the look.... its a very long
> file...
> let me know if you saw it okay, 'cause it looks very nice on my wordpad!!

Nope .. either wau i still looks f*cked up.


> ___|      |_-|##||            I  I    |___[] I I I I I LJ I XX I []..|
> |..[].__.[]..|     |..[] I XX I LJ I I I I I []___| ~~~~   I  I |     |_-|##
> ||__@|=  =|  ~~~       ~~~  I|       |I  ~~~       ~~~  |=  =|@__ | | |  |
> ||_-   | ||__I__|__I____I|___||____I__|__I__||~~~  I  I| |_|  |___|
> |_-_|__|_-_|
> |_________I_____I_________[=__=]_______[=__=]_______[=___=]_______[=__=]____
> ___[=__[]____________.'^^=^^^^^==^^^^^==^^^^^==^^^^^=^^'.____________|__##__
> __##____##____##____I____I_|___

But it does show that you have a lot of detail.
I hope you get i right

as i said,
it looks great on my notepad/wordpad, i dontr know why it doesnt work out
here

how do you copy pics here??

Christian 'CeeJay' Jensen <new...@CeeJay.cjb.nOt> schreef in
berichtnieuws 8ukeck$q63$1...@news.inet.tele.dk...
>
> "Eugene Goede" <mor...@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
news:8ujp4l$cob$1...@news1.xs4all.nl...
> > I hope it'll work out with the spaces and more, but here's a wholoe
street
> > in ascii :-))
> >
> > forgive me if it doesnt work out the way it look son my computer
> > You have to copy it to a wordpad file an the look.... its a very long
> > file...
> > let me know if you saw it okay, 'cause it looks very nice on my
wordpad!!
>
> Nope .. either wau i still looks f*cked up.
>
>
> > ___|      |_-|##||            I  I    |___[] I I I I I LJ I XX I []..|
> > |..[].__.[]..|     |..[] I XX I LJ I I I I I []___| ~~~~   I  I |
|_-|##
> > ||__@|=  =|  ~~~       ~~~  I|       |I  ~~~       ~~~  |=  =|@__ | | |
|
> > ||_-   | ||__I__|__I____I|___||____I__|__I__||~~~  I  I| |_|  |___|
> > |_-_|__|_-_|
> >
|_________I_____I_________[=__=]_______[=__=]_______[=___=]_______[=__=]____
> >
___[=__[]____________.'^^=^^^^^==^^^^^==^^^^^==^^^^^=^^'.____________|__##__
> > __##____##____##____I____I_|___
>
> But it does show that you have a lot of detail.
> I hope you get i right
>
>

On Sun, 12 Nov 2000 01:46:18 +0100, "Eugene Goede" <mor...@xs4all.nl> provoked
the following text:

>as i said,
>it looks great on my notepad/wordpad, i dontr know why it doesnt work out
>here

Eus, perhaps this ruler can be of use to you:

         1         2         3         4         5         6         7         8
1        0         0         0         0         0         0         0         0
|________|_________|_________|_________|_________|_________|_________|_________|
                                                                         |
                                                                         74

74 chars is the maximum width the most newsreader will accept without wrapping.
If you still wish to show us pics with a greater width, it's best to make it a
HTML page and put it up on your homepagespace. I'm sure that XS4all has made
some room available for you to put a homepage, if not, go to one of the many
free homepagespace providers and open an account.

>how do you copy pics here??

In wordpad, press Ctrl+A then Ctrl+C, then in OE press Ctrl+V.
It'[s easy :-))
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        Peter Punk
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"I went into a general store, and they wouldn't sell me anything specific".

MJP <mik...@bluedwarf.net.not> ASCII art 15 Nov 2000 00:00 · permalink · report
On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 18:16:52 GMT, ppu...@damnthatspam.chello.nl (Peter Punk) Spake thus:

>On Sun, 12 Nov 2000 01:46:18 +0100, "Eugene Goede" <mor...@xs4all.nl> provoked
>the following text:
>
>>as i said,
>>it looks great on my notepad/wordpad, i dontr know why it doesnt work out
>>here
>
>Eus, perhaps this ruler can be of use to you:
>
>         1         2         3         4         5         6         7         8
>1        0         0         0         0         0         0         0         0
>|________|_________|_________|_________|_________|_________|_________|_________|
>                                                                         |
>                                                                         74
>
>74 chars is the maximum width the most newsreader will accept without wrapping.
>If you still wish to show us pics with a greater width, it's best to make it a
>HTML page and put it up on your homepagespace. I'm sure that XS4all has made
>some room available for you to put a homepage, if not, go to one of the many
>free homepagespace providers and open an account.
>
>>how do you copy pics here??
>
>In wordpad, press Ctrl+A then Ctrl+C, then in OE press Ctrl+V.
>It'[s easy :-))
>-- 
>        Peter Punk
>          \    /
>        ---\\\\---
>          /    \
>

WinWord claims that is unicode, but I dont know what font he used.
Eugene, try notepad, rather than word, and try sorting that back out for us?

non-obascii:but I did it anyway, by hand, closely matches pixels from enlarged screen shot
  ...........................
  :::::::::::::::::::::::::::
  :::                     :::
  ::: :::::::: :::: :::::::::
  :::   ::::  .::::  :::' :::
  :::   :::: .::::: .::'  :::
  :::   ::::::::::::::'   :::
  :::   ::::::'::::::'    :::
  '''   '''::' :::::'     :::
|"""""""""|:'  ::::'      :::
|   ":::  |'   """'       :::
|   ::':  |               :::
|  ::     |...............:::
|  '.     |::::::::::::::::::
|_________|

I seem to have too much time on my hands.


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Peter Punk wrote:
> 74 chars is the maximum width the most newsreader will accept without wrapping.
> If you still wish to show us pics with a greater width, it's best to make it a
> HTML page and put it up on your homepagespace.

It doesn't have to be HTML. Plain-text will do just fine.   :)


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On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 23:22:40 +0100, Veronica Karlsson <asc...@hotmail.com>
provoked the following text:

>> 74 chars is the maximum width the most newsreader will accept without wrapping.
>> If you still wish to show us pics with a greater width, it's best to make it a
>> HTML page and put it up on your homepagespace.
>It doesn't have to be HTML. Plain-text will do just fine.   :)

But then you will have to trust that plain text is displayed in a fixed-width
font in all browsers. And i don't trust all browsers.
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        Peter Punk
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The Roman Rule: The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it.

Peter Punk wrote:
> Veronica Karlsson wrote:
> > Somebody else whose name has been snipped wrote:
> > > 74 chars is the maximum width the most newsreader will accept
> > > without wrapping. If you still wish to show us pics with a
> > > greater width, it's best to make it a HTML page and put it
> > > up on your homepagespace.
> >
> > It doesn't have to be HTML. Plain-text will do just fine.   :)
> 
> But then you will have to trust that plain text is displayed in a
> fixed-width font in all browsers. And i don't trust all browsers.

My experience is the opposite. I often see ascii art html pages that
show up in a proportional font, but I've never had a problem with
plain-text.

Here are some examples (from Joan's list, under "personal exhibits",
first the page URL, then the URL of a screen shot from it):

http://users.breworld.net/m/martin.atkins/asciiart/
http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/proportional1.gif

http://www.geocities.com/theshedragon/
http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/proportional2.gif

http://home9.inet.tele.dk/jez/
http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/proportional3.gif

http://www.gtcom.net/~krogg/ascii/
http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/proportional4.gif

http://www.angelfire.com/mn/Maija/asciiart.html
http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/proportional5.gif

Going through that list I stumbled on another interesting phenomenon:

http://209.220.139.116/tooshy/indexts.html
http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/what_happened_here.gif


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 ,' /   / |          \_/\___|_| \___/_||_|_\__\__,_|        | \   \ `,
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MJP wrote:
> Veronica Karlsson Spake thus:
> > http://209.220.139.116/tooshy/indexts.html
> > http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/what_happened_here.gif
> 
> what happened there was obvious,

Yes it was. It was not the "problem" you described though.

> you didnt have your browser maximised,
> if you had it set correctly, it would have been fine

1. There is no such thing as "maximisation of windows" on this
   computer (clue: not everybody uses Windows).

2. "Maximising" a browser window at the screen resolution I
   use would be ridiculous.

3. There is no "incorrect" way to size a browser window.

4. It is quite possible (and quite simple) to have ascii art
   in an HTML page without it wrapping.

   Here is an example:

   http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/wide_picture.html


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.'    /\ \         __   __                _                 `/|'\'
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MJP <mik...@bluedwarf.net.not> ASCII art 19 Nov 2000 01:06 · permalink · report
On Sat, 18 Nov 2000 23:27:40 +0100, Veronica Karlsson <asc...@hotmail.com> Spake thus:

>http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/what_happened_here.gif

what happened there was obvious, you didnt have your browser maximised,
if you had it set correctly, it would have been fine

also you gave the wrong URL for the page you were viewing
http://209.220.139.116/tooshy/cowboy.html
that would be the correct one


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  (__.'\               ~'. %^.^% .'~             /'.__)  
  / @(O)\                '._)'(_.'              /(O)@ \  
 |  |  (_)               {_\'.'/_}             (_)  |  | 
 _\__\__=  _             /(_).(_)\           _   =__/ /_ 
( /   \ ) ( )           // ) : ( \\         ( ) ( /   \ )
|||   |||(.O')_____________________________('O.)|||   |||
c||___|c| (_)PopUps                  Scripts(_) |c|___||c
||(_(_|||_| |          #ASCII_Art           | |_|||_)_)||
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   |)) *  |_|                               |_|  * ((|   
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In article <3A1...@hotmail.com>, Veronica Karlsson wrote:
>
>Here are some examples (from Joan's list, under "personal exhibits",
>first the page URL, then the URL of a screen shot from it):

Since everyone else (okay, I'm exaggerating) seems to be commenting on
this list, let me see if I can actuallly say something constructive to
help fix those pages:


>http://users.breworld.net/m/martin.atkins/asciiart/
>http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/proportional1.gif

Oops, I think *I* might be to blame here.  The style sheet for those
pages specifies "monospaced" as the last font family for PRE, when it
should really be "monospace" without the "d".

I know I've posted CSS samples here that have this bug, though with
Deja's archive being the way it is, I can't be sure if I started was
the first to spread the particular piece of misinformation.


>http://www.geocities.com/theshedragon/
>http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/proportional2.gif

This one has FONT tags within PRE.  It _is_ technically a standards
violation, though I'm surprised that Netscape should break on it.  The
proper solution would be CSS.

That's not the only thing broken on those pages -- the JavaScript
seems to break Netscape is various ways too, such as making links not
work, but I'm not going to start trying to fix that.


>http://home9.inet.tele.dk/jez/
>http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/proportional3.gif

An unclosed FONT tag _before_ PRE.  Again, technically an error, but I
wouldn't have expected it to matter.  Easily fixed by removing it.  If
you want to specify the font for ascii art in HTML, use style sheets.

>http://www.gtcom.net/~krogg/ascii/
>http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/proportional4.gif

Same as above.


>http://www.angelfire.com/mn/Maija/asciiart.html
>http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/proportional5.gif

Okay, that's just a CSS font family spec without a catch-all entry.
Add "monospace" after "Courier New" and it should work even if none of
the named fonts are present.


>Going through that list I stumbled on another interesting phenomenon:
>
>http://209.220.139.116/tooshy/indexts.html
>http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/what_happened_here.gif

Now that's just ugly.  Ascii art in HTML should *always* be marked up
with <PRE> tags.  Anything else is a kluge at best.

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"Maybe I shouldn't be singing this song / Ranting and raving and
 carrying on / Maybe they're right when they tell me I'm wrong...
 NAAAAH!"  -- Denis Leary, _Asshole_

Mauri Saarinen <mau...@norssi.oulu.fi> ASCII art 20 Nov 2000 00:00 · permalink · report
mite menee karonen...onko kivaa teha ascii hommaa...  o o
							ooooooooooo
ase ylosalaisin tossa

                                        _____
                                   _.-""     ""-._
                                 .'               '.
                    . . . . .  .'                   '.
                    !-!-!-!-! /   .-..                \
                    !_!,!_!_!/    |__H _    .-\_)`-.   \
                  ,/`,/'_`\,`\,  [____|_]  /.-. .-,_\   ;
                ,/',/'/_|_\`\,`\,|=   |=|      \(       ;
              ,/' |/ ||"""|| \| `\, = | |       `       |
              |   #| ||___|| | #  |=  | |               |
            ,/' #  | [_____] |   #`\, |=|               ;
          ,/',-----'      =  '-----,`\--'---,/\,--,    /
         `""|   .;;;,=      ,;;;,   |#  # ,//  \\,'\, /
            | =//___\\ =   //___\\ =| # ,//',;;,'\\,#\,
            |  ||   ||     ||   ||  |#,//' //||\\ '\\,`\,
            |  ||   ||     ||   ||  |-|/| ||_||_|| |\|_ _|
            |  ||   ||   = ||   ||  |=  | |.----.|=|___]
            |= ||___|| =   ||___|| =|  =| ||    || | ||
            | [_______]   [_______] |--.| ||____|| | ||
            ;_______=______=_____ __;   |[________]| ||
          ,/'#    #   #      #       #  '----------''\|
        ,/'    #        #       #         #     #   # '\,
      ,/'___#____#__#_____#___#_______#_______#____#___#'\,
      `""[____________________________________________]|""`
         _[_|   .-----.  =-       ___________    ||_]_||
        |  _| .",-"|"-,',   () = |.--..-..--.| = |_  |||
        |_/ |/ /_\_|_/_\ \ /__\  ||__||_||__||   | \_|\\
        (_) || .-------. | |  |  |.--..-..--.|  =| (_) ||
        / \ || |       | | |()|  ||__||_||__||   | / \ ||
        \_/ || '-------' |  )(   |___________|   | \_/ ||
        (_) ||.---------.|  \/   |.---------.|=  | (_) ||
        / \ |||   ___   ||    =  ||         ||   | / \ ||
        \_/ |||  {___}  ||       ||         ||   | \_/ ||
        (_) |||  ((_))  || -=   =||_________|| = |_(_)_//
        / \ |||   '-'   ||   _ .-'-----------'-. | / \__\
        \_/_|||       ()||  [_]"""""""""""""""""[_]\_/\\\\
       [ __ ]||         || =| |==.==.==.==.==.==| |__]|||||
       j|  ||||         ||  | |  |  |  |  |  |  | |  |====|
       g|__|||;).       ||--|_|=='=='=='=='=='==|_|  ||||||
      _s____/`---`\ ____||_.____._____._____.____.|__|////
     |     |       |=====' |    |    /  \    \   |    |-'
     '------\     /---'----'----'---'----'---'---'----'
             `---'

On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:28:46 +0200, Mauri Saarinen <mau...@norssi.oulu.fi>
provoked the following text:

>mite menee karonen...onko kivaa teha ascii hommaa...  o o
>							ooooooooooo
>ase ylosalaisin tossa

Ermmm... Eeny meeny miny moe!

>                                        _____
>                                   _.-""     ""-._
>                                 .'               '.
>                    . . . . .  .'                   '.
>                    !-!-!-!-! /   .-..                \
>                    !_!,!_!_!/    |__H _    .-\_)`-.   \
>                  ,/`,/'_`\,`\,  [____|_]  /.-. .-,_\   ;
>                ,/',/'/_|_\`\,`\,|=   |=|      \(       ;
>              ,/' |/ ||"""|| \| `\, = | |       `       |
>              |   #| ||___|| | #  |=  | |               |
>            ,/' #  | [_____] |   #`\, |=|               ;
>          ,/',-----'      =  '-----,`\--'---,/\,--,    /
>         `""|   .;;;,=      ,;;;,   |#  # ,//  \\,'\, /
>            | =//___\\ =   //___\\ =| # ,//',;;,'\\,#\,
>            |  ||   ||     ||   ||  |#,//' //||\\ '\\,`\,
>            |  ||   ||     ||   ||  |-|/| ||_||_|| |\|_ _|
>            |  ||   ||   = ||   ||  |=  | |.----.|=|___]
>            |= ||___|| =   ||___|| =|  =| ||    || | ||
>            | [_______]   [_______] |--.| ||____|| | ||
>            ;_______=______=_____ __;   |[________]| ||
>          ,/'#    #   #      #       #  '----------''\|
>        ,/'    #        #       #         #     #   # '\,
>      ,/'___#____#__#_____#___#_______#_______#____#___#'\,
>      `""[____________________________________________]|""`
>         _[_|   .-----.  =-       ___________    ||_]_||
>        |  _| .",-"|"-,',   () = |.--..-..--.| = |_  |||
>        |_/ |/ /_\_|_/_\ \ /__\  ||__||_||__||   | \_|\\
>        (_) || .-------. | |  |  |.--..-..--.|  =| (_) ||
>        / \ || |       | | |()|  ||__||_||__||   | / \ ||
>        \_/ || '-------' |  )(   |___________|   | \_/ ||
>        (_) ||.---------.|  \/   |.---------.|=  | (_) ||
>        / \ |||   ___   ||    =  ||         ||   | / \ ||
>        \_/ |||  {___}  ||       ||         ||   | \_/ ||
>        (_) |||  ((_))  || -=   =||_________|| = |_(_)_//
>        / \ |||   '-'   ||   _ .-'-----------'-. | / \__\
>        \_/_|||       ()||  [_]"""""""""""""""""[_]\_/\\\\
>       [ __ ]||         || =| |==.==.==.==.==.==| |__]|||||
>       j|  ||||         ||  | |  |  |  |  |  |  | |  |====|
>       g|__|||;).       ||--|_|=='=='=='=='=='==|_|  ||||||
>      _s____/`---`\ ____||_.____._____._____.____.|__|////
>     |     |       |=====' |    |    /  \    \   |    |-'
>     '------\     /---'----'----'---'----'---'---'----'
>             `---'

Another great one by our beloved Joan :-)
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On Sat, 18 Nov 2000 23:27:40 +0100, Veronica Karlsson <asc...@hotmail.com>
provoked the following text:

>> But then you will have to trust that plain text is displayed in a
>> fixed-width font in all browsers. And i don't trust all browsers.
>My experience is the opposite. I often see ascii art html pages that
>show up in a proportional font, but I've never had a problem with
>plain-text.
>
>Here are some examples (from Joan's list, under "personal exhibits",
>first the page URL, then the URL of a screen shot from it):
>
>http://users.breworld.net/m/martin.atkins/asciiart/
>http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/proportional1.gif
>
>http://www.geocities.com/theshedragon/
>http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/proportional2.gif
>
>http://home9.inet.tele.dk/jez/
>http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/proportional3.gif
>
>http://www.gtcom.net/~krogg/ascii/
>http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/proportional4.gif
>
>http://www.angelfire.com/mn/Maija/asciiart.html
>http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/proportional5.gif

All of these URLs look perfectly correct to me in both IE 5.5 and NS 4.7
I think you better check your settings in NS.

>Going through that list I stumbled on another interesting phenomenon:
>
>http://209.220.139.116/tooshy/indexts.html
>http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/what_happened_here.gif

That's just a matter of width, resize your browser or work in a higher
resolution.
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On Tue, 21 Nov 2000 08:39:19 +0100, Veronica Karlsson <asc...@hotmail.com>
provoked the following text:

>> All of these URLs look perfectly correct to me in both IE 5.5 and NS 4.7
>> I think you better check your settings in NS.
>My settings? OK
>Edit -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Fonts
>+--- Fonts and Encodings ---------------------------------------+
>|                                                               |
>|      For the Encoding:    Western (iso-8859-1)                |
>|   Variable Width Font:    Helvetica (Adobe)        Size: 12.0 |
>|                                        [ ] Allow scaling ____ |
>|      Fixed Width Font:    Fixed (Misc)             Size: 14.0 |
>|                                        [ ] Allow scaling ____ |
>+---------------------------------------------------------------+
>+---------------------------------------------------------------+
>| Sometimes a document will provide its own fonts.              |
>| < > Use my default fonts, overriding document-specified fonts |
>| < > Use document-specified fonts, but disable Dynamic Fonts   |
>| <*> Use document-specified fonts, including Dynamic Fonts     |
>+---------------------------------------------------------------+
>Looks OK to me.

I have compared it to my own settings and they seem indentical, i guess it may
be the version number or the difference in OS.

>> >Going through that list I stumbled on another interesting phenomenon:
>> >http://209.220.139.116/tooshy/indexts.html
>> >http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/what_happened_here.gif
>> That's just a matter of width, resize your browser or work in a higher
>> resolution.
>That should not be necessary.

True, but in this case it is...
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Committee: a group that keeps minutes and wastes hours.

Veronica Karlsson <asc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> 3. There is no "incorrect" way to size a browser window.

You say that, but I tried talking into the mouse and it didn't work.

-Rus.

Veronica Karlsson <asc...@hotmail.com> ASCII art 21 Nov 2000 07:39 · permalink · report
Peter Punk wrote:
> Veronica Karlsson provoked the following text:
> > Some unknown person wrote:
> > > But then you will have to trust that plain text is displayed in a
> > > fixed-width font in all browsers. And i don't trust all browsers.
> >
> > My experience is the opposite. I often see ascii art html pages that
> > show up in a proportional font, but I've never had a problem with
> > plain-text.
> >
> >Here are some examples (from Joan's list, under "personal exhibits",
> >first the page URL, then the URL of a screen shot from it):
<snip>
> 
> All of these URLs look perfectly correct to me in both IE 5.5 and NS 4.7
> I think you better check your settings in NS.

My settings? OK

Edit -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Fonts


+--- Fonts and Encodings ---------------------------------------+
|                                                               |
|      For the Encoding:    Western (iso-8859-1)                |
|   Variable Width Font:    Helvetica (Adobe)        Size: 12.0 |
|                                        [ ] Allow scaling ____ |
|      Fixed Width Font:    Fixed (Misc)             Size: 14.0 |
|                                        [ ] Allow scaling ____ |
+---------------------------------------------------------------+
+---------------------------------------------------------------+
| Sometimes a document will provide its own fonts.              |
| < > Use my default fonts, overriding document-specified fonts |
| < > Use document-specified fonts, but disable Dynamic Fonts   |
| <*> Use document-specified fonts, including Dynamic Fonts     |
+---------------------------------------------------------------+


Looks OK to me.

> >Going through that list I stumbled on another interesting phenomenon:
> >
> >http://209.220.139.116/tooshy/indexts.html
> >http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/what_happened_here.gif
> 
> That's just a matter of width, resize your browser or work in a higher
> resolution.

That should not be necessary.


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    /|__--__                       .                        __--__
    |\ '__                        /|\                        _{ _ 
    `.' / `.,_ _________           |           _________ _,.' (/ `.
    /  ||``._.'             ASCII ART CHAT!             `---'|:||,/
  .'   /|                                                   /|:| \
.'    /\ \         __   __                _                 `/|'\'
 ` `,/ /`,\        \ \ / /__ _ _ ___ _ _ (_)__ __ _         /,'\ \
   .'.'  /|         \ V / -_) '_/ _ \ ' \| / _/ _` |        |\  `.`.
 ,' /   / |          \_/\___|_| \___/_||_|_\__\__,_|        | \   \ `,
- `- -- `-'- -ejm-------------------------------------VK-- -`-' -- -' -

On Thu, 23 Nov 2000 01:17:28 +0100, Veronica Karlsson <asc...@hotmail.com>
provoked the following text:

>> > > > Going through that list I stumbled on another interesting phenomenon:
>> > > > http://209.220.139.116/tooshy/indexts.html
>> > > > http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/what_happened_here.gif
>> > > That's just a matter of width, resize your browser or work in a higher
>> > > resolution.
>> > That should not be necessary.
>> True, but in this case it is...
>I was talking about this case.

So was i.
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Garter, n.: An elastic band intended to keep a woman from coming out of her stockings and desolating the country.

Peter Punk wrote:
> Veronica Karlsson wrote:
> > Some unknown person whose name got snipped wrote:
> > > Veronica Karlsson wrote:
> > > > Going through that list I stumbled on another interesting phenomenon:
> > > > http://209.220.139.116/tooshy/indexts.html
> > > > http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/what_happened_here.gif
> > >
> > > That's just a matter of width, resize your browser or work in a higher
> > > resolution.
> >
> > That should not be necessary.
> 
> True, but in this case it is...

I was talking about this case.


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    |\ '__                        /|\                        _{ _ 
    `.' / `.,_ _________           |           _________ _,.' (/ `.
    /  ||``._.'             ASCII ART CHAT!             `---'|:||,/
  .'   /|                                                   /|:| \
.'    /\ \         __   __                _                 `/|'\'
 ` `,/ /`,\        \ \ / /__ _ _ ___ _ _ (_)__ __ _         /,'\ \
   .'.'  /|         \ V / -_) '_/ _ \ ' \| / _/ _` |        |\  `.`.
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In article <12v...@4ax.com>, Peter Punk wrote:
>On Thu, 23 Nov 2000 01:17:28 +0100, Veronica Karlsson <asc...@hotmail.com>
>provoked the following text:
>>> > > > Going through that list I stumbled on another interesting phenomenon:
>>> > > > http://209.220.139.116/tooshy/indexts.html
>>> > > > http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/what_happened_here.gif
>>> > > That's just a matter of width, resize your browser or work in a higher
>>> > > resolution.
>>> > That should not be necessary.
>>> True, but in this case it is...
>>I was talking about this case.
>So was i.

http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/temp/cowboy.html

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