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Original Usenet message from alt.ascii-art, 20 Nov 2000.
Re: some ascii of mine

Re: some ascii of mine

In article <3A1...@hotmail.com>, Veronica Karlsson wrote:
>
>Here are some examples (from Joan's list, under "personal exhibits",
>first the page URL, then the URL of a screen shot from it):

Since everyone else (okay, I'm exaggerating) seems to be commenting on
this list, let me see if I can actuallly say something constructive to
help fix those pages:


>http://users.breworld.net/m/martin.atkins/asciiart/
>http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/proportional1.gif

Oops, I think *I* might be to blame here.  The style sheet for those
pages specifies "monospaced" as the last font family for PRE, when it
should really be "monospace" without the "d".

I know I've posted CSS samples here that have this bug, though with
Deja's archive being the way it is, I can't be sure if I started was
the first to spread the particular piece of misinformation.


>http://www.geocities.com/theshedragon/
>http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/proportional2.gif

This one has FONT tags within PRE.  It _is_ technically a standards
violation, though I'm surprised that Netscape should break on it.  The
proper solution would be CSS.

That's not the only thing broken on those pages -- the JavaScript
seems to break Netscape is various ways too, such as making links not
work, but I'm not going to start trying to fix that.


>http://home9.inet.tele.dk/jez/
>http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/proportional3.gif

An unclosed FONT tag _before_ PRE.  Again, technically an error, but I
wouldn't have expected it to matter.  Easily fixed by removing it.  If
you want to specify the font for ascii art in HTML, use style sheets.

>http://www.gtcom.net/~krogg/ascii/
>http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/proportional4.gif

Same as above.


>http://www.angelfire.com/mn/Maija/asciiart.html
>http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/proportional5.gif

Okay, that's just a CSS font family spec without a catch-all entry.
Add "monospace" after "Courier New" and it should work even if none of
the named fonts are present.


>Going through that list I stumbled on another interesting phenomenon:
>
>http://209.220.139.116/tooshy/indexts.html
>http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/what_happened_here.gif

Now that's just ugly.  Ascii art in HTML should *always* be marked up
with <PRE> tags.  Anything else is a kluge at best.

-- 
Ilmari Karonen - http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/
"Maybe I shouldn't be singing this song / Ranting and raving and
 carrying on / Maybe they're right when they tell me I'm wrong...
 NAAAAH!"  -- Denis Leary, _Asshole_

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