Talk: Just something I thought I'd say..actually 2 things

In article <4ied3g$fk...@miso.wwa.com>,
Brandon R. Monse <afn...@afn.org> wrote:
>
>One thoing  I'd like to say:
  Huh, he said "Thoing."  Huh, huh...
  
>SOme ASCII pictures are hard to see, such as the Mona Lisa picture.  One 
>way I have found that works really good is to sort of LOOK THRU the 
>picture, like you would with MAGIC EYE pictures.
>
  I might be mistaken, but the ones you are refering to are generally, I
believes, GIF -> ASCII conversions.  I find the best way to view those is
to go stand at the door of the room, way over there away from the
computer, and look at it.  Squint, too.  If this doesn't work you should
jump up and down (as opposed to staying up) and try to appease the ascii
gods, whom you have obviously angered.  Of course, since these are usually
HUGE pictures, you've now seen the hairline.  Scroll down and repeat for
the eyes and nose, and continue as needed.  One more thing: the ascii gods
like incense, the cones, not the sticks.


>Another thing:
>
>Let's give NORMAN  a big hand!
>He's really good at this acii art stuff, and, though most people don't 
>realize, a lot of work goes into ASCII art...so GOOD JOB NORMAN!!!
>

   Yes, Normand Villeux (spelling from memory, so be kind) is the man.  I
said this in an earlier post-attempt that never made it past the moderator
(the appeasement of whom requires a whole new set of rituals, and more
incense):  I am constantly impressed with both the quality and volume of
Normand's work.  I burn incense for you, Normand  :)
 
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: Let's give NORMAN  a big hand!
: He's really good at this acii art stuff, and, though most people don't 
: realize, a lot of work goes into ASCII art...so GOOD JOB NORMAN!!!

Clap clap! YAY NOOORRRMMMAAANNNNNNN!!!!!!!!

wooooo hoooooo!!!

Lori

Yes, I'd like to say that Norman's work is really superb. I'm very 
impressed by your work.

In fact, does anyone have a list of the stuff he has posted on this list? 
I'd love to see other stuff I've missed. (Norman, ya out there?)

Keep up the good work!!!

mike

In article <4ij5ki$br...@miso.wwa.com>, lpe...@gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca (Lori Penner) writes:
> : Let's give NORMAN  a big hand!
> : He's really good at this acii art stuff, and, though most people don't 
> : realize, a lot of work goes into ASCII art...so GOOD JOB NORMAN!!!
> 
> Clap clap! YAY NOOORRRMMMAAANNNNNNN!!!!!!!!
> 
> wooooo hoooooo!!!

applause, applause, hooray nooorrrmmaaannn!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> Lori
> 
jenny
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                         jenny mabee * jma...@drew.edu 
       

>From: m...@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (F.L. Catalyst)
>
>Someone with excellent taste in art said:
>>: Let's give NORMAN  a big hand!
>>: He's really good at this acii art stuff, and, though most people don't 
>>: realize, a lot of work goes into ASCII art...so GOOD JOB NORMAN!!!
>
>Er...  I rather agree -- except I suspect he'd appreciate the applause
>even more if folks would get his name right...
>
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>               |  | | | | |   | | | | |     |/ | |   |
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>                                    ,'|     |`. 
>                                    `-'     `-'
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>  |   | ,-._,-. ,-.-.-. ,-. ,-.-. ,-|  ` |   | ,-. , | | | | ,-. . . ,-. .   |
>  |   | | |   | | | | | | | | | | | |    (   | | | | | | | | | | | | |  X    '
>  '   `-'-'   `-' ' ' `-'-'-' ' `-'-'     `-' --'--'--'---'---'--'-'-' ' `-  o
>
>(art based on one of Normand's sigs)
>
>We'll miss you.  Good luck!
>-Catalyst


Maybe not!  I think Brandon started a chain reaction here!  Thanks
everyone.  It's always nice to see people appreciate my ASCII art
even though I don't even consider myself an artist.

The only reason there has been a large volume of my work posted
recently is that I was reposting art that I had done between Dec.
'93 and Dec. '95 because there was a good chance that my Internet
account would not be valid after March 15, '96.  I have just been
informed that through some special arrangements my term contract is
now being extended for 1 year, so I will keep my Internet account. 
Yeah!!  :-)

Adam Moore mentioned he was impressed with the quality of my
works.  Well, when I started ASCII drawing I quickly noticed that
these criteria were important to me:  simplicity, cleanliness,
clarity and uniformity of shading.  As a learning experience, I
tried smoothing the contours of other people's pictures and even
though everyone else were using M's, like in the famous "Meriday in
the morning" ASCII picture, I felt that using an '8' was a better
choice IMHO because it had a brightness comparable to the other
characters I was using to smooth out the pictures:  b, d, a, Y, P,
etc.  It just felt right and it looked good too, so it became my
style.

Most people don't know this, but my "career" as an ASCII artist was
greatly influenced by 2 nude pictures that I worked on at the very
beginning.  The first one was probably a GIF conversion that
someone had posted a long time ago and which had been recirculated
many times.  Most of the picture was made up of comas, colons and
semi-colons.  It was quite a challenge to massage her ASCII body
into something better while experimenting with contour smoothing
and trying to find my own style.  Nonetheless, it turned out very
well and I decided to give her a bikini.  Once that one was
finished I converted the picture of Meriday to my style and
eventually gave her a bikini too.  I don't know if there is such a
thing as an artistic turn-on, but if there is then I know exactly
how it feels.  I just couldn't stop working on those pictures.  I
would stay after work, skip supper, come in on the weekends, etc. 
It was like life had no meaning, except to finish those pictures! 
The rest is history...  :-) 

I will be posting this art shortly as well as a few nudes, etc. and
a few old posts describing my techniques, so stay tuned...


The pictures I post are at their best when printed with a
'Line Printer 16.67 cpi' font or equivalent.

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 I8b,  `8b ,88'       d8I    dP"  "Y8ggg8""""8I  ,8" "8P" "8P" "8,
 `Y8P   88.88'       ,88'   i8'    ,8I       8I  I8   8I   8I   8I
        (8V8'        d8P    I8,   ,d8'       Y8,,dP   8I   8I   Yb,
        (88P        ,8P     `Y8888P"         `Y88P'   8I   8I   `Y8ba
        d88         d8'
       ,88'        ,8P                 _,,ggdd888bbgg,,_
       d8P         I8I            _,gd8888P"""""""""Y8888bg,_
      ,88          I8b       _,gd88P"""'               `"""Y88bg,_
      88'          `Y8b,__,gd8P""'      Normand Veilleux     `""Y8bg,_
     d8P            `Y88888P"'        nve...@emr1.emr.ca       `"Y88ba

Normand Veilleux (nve...@emr1.emr.ca) writes:
> It's always nice to see people appreciate my ASCII art
> even though I don't even consider myself an artist.

Normand is far too modest (yes, he's the same way in person, too).


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From: ag4...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Colin R. Leech)
>
>Normand Veilleux (nve...@emr1.emr.ca) writes:
>> It's always nice to see people appreciate my ASCII art
>> even though I don't even consider myself an artist.
>
>Normand is far too modest (yes, he's the same way in person, too).

Hey!  What is this?  I'm under friendly fire!!!  :-)

There is a lot hidden behind the statement I made.  I'm not an
artist in real life.  One of these days I will take a drawing
course and learn how to draw by hand.  Just like scribes used to
copy texts and sometimes embellished the copy I can copy pictures
from paper to screen.  The scribes were not considered authors, so
for the same reason, I don't consider myself an artist.

The vast majority of my ASCII works are just copies of pictures
that I transferred to screen using a grid technique (more on this
in a later post).  I have modified GIFs too, but that is very time
consuming.  This is why I came up with the grid system.  It speeds
up the transfer from paper to screen without using a scanner.  So
basically you could say that I am a human scanner.  Alternatively
you could say that I am a meticulous, hard-headed, quality minded
amateur that likes playing around with ASCII art.  If that's what
you mean by "artist", then I fit the bill.  :-)