Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 13 Aug 1998.
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· 8 messages · 13 Aug 1998 - 17 Aug 1998
>Message-id: <ExM...@iglou.com>
Thanks Joe for posting that long one for me...
but what happened to all the ` characters?
(alt-096) they were there when I sent the post to you!
How odd..... that is an ASCII character-
And unfortunately, without them, some of the
pics looked a bit munged-
-joan
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Spunk1111 (spu...@aol.com) wrote:
: >Message-id: <Exn...@iglou.com>
: > ALT-096 seems to be invisible in Usenet text mode,
: >here is ALT-095 _ and here is ALT-096 ` which is
: >invisible
: }>but on Usenet, a character is just an ASCII number between
: >32 and 126 (or whatever), and will display differently
: >in different readers (you probably see 096 above, I don't).
:
: I can see it on my usenet reader... hmmmmm...
: And why wouldn't your reader read an ASCII character?
I am not sure of any exact definition of ASCII
other than the original for teletype machines. :-)
: I've been under the impression that ASCII is universal.
It is a standard, but a large number of
users at colleges and large companies use unix
work stations and may use "tin", "nn", "rn",
etc. to read, and "vi", "pine" or "pico" to
write and reply to messages.
These programs just contain what the
author put in them, and may incluse or exclude
any ASCII number. I suppose there were many
keyboards that don't have the character, some
of my keyboards have it in different places,
if you are talking about the reverse single
quote mark.
: I don't recall this problem occuring before.
: Are there others who don't see the grave character ```````````?
The most frequent error I see is the TAB
character, it is not universal, and really messes
up an ASCII Art display.
: that would certainly influence those of us who
: make the ASCII art pics...
Thank you very much. :-)
: -joan
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And thank you for showing me what the bug looks
like, maybe I can find it now. :-)
Joe Fischer
Spunk1111 (spu...@aol.com) wrote:
: Thanks Joe for posting that long one for me...
: but what happened to all the ` characters?
: (alt-096) they were there when I sent the post to you!
: How odd..... that is an ASCII character-
: And unfortunately, without them, some of the
: pics looked a bit munged-
Sorry, the way I capture adds extra lines from the
online reader, and I have to delete them, I may have made
a mistake, I will be more careful.
ALT-096 seems to be invisible in Usenet text mode,
here is ALT-095 _ and here is ALT-096 ` which is
invisible (sorry, but a lot of things I do are invisible). :-)
I see a lot of talk about font types in notepad,
but on Usenet, a character is just an ASCII number between
32 and 126 (or whatever), and will display differently
in different readers (you probably see 096 above, I don't).
I am surprised that 96 decimal ASCII is invisible,
there must be a reason for it. There are a couple of
special characters on Usenet, including a substitute
ESCape character (I think), I try to avoid them, and
just use the "typewriter" keys.
Regards,
Joe Fischer
>Message-id: <Exn...@iglou.com> > ALT-096 seems to be invisible in Usenet text mode, >here is ALT-095 _ and here is ALT-096 ` which is >invisible }>but on Usenet, a character is just an ASCII number between >32 and 126 (or whatever), and will display differently >in different readers (you probably see 096 above, I don't). I can see it on my usenet reader... hmmmmm... And why wouldn't your reader read an ASCII character? I've been under the impression that ASCII is universal. I don't recall this problem occuring before. Are there others who don't see the grave character ```````````? that would certainly influence those of us who make the ASCII art pics... -joan -- ___ ___ ,_;-'-._\__/_.-' ,_\ a\/a ,_\ ,-( _'-._ IS THERE A BUG IN YOUR SYSTEM? ,_\ (==/\ |'-._\ ,_\ -. /\ \/ | |\ ` ,_\ \/==\ '._\7 '._ joan stark <spu...@juno.com> jgs '. '._ \=/\'-}}} '-}}} / /> /` ) ~~ASCII ART GALLERY~~ |\_.' .'( <_ <_ <http://www.ascii-art.com> \____.-' '--}}}-}}
kef...@iglou.com (Ken Fischer) spake thusly: >: I can see it on my usenet reader... hmmmmm... >: And why wouldn't your reader read an ASCII character? Actually, ASCII means every single character displayable in an MS-DOS window. ANSI is the windows version. However, as in "ascii art," the word ascii has grown to mean every character on the lower-left hand side of the keyboard. ----------------------------------------------------------- |KOBY CHODOSH, OFFICIAL HUMIDIPHOBE OF ALT.FAN.SPACE-GHOST| ----------------------------------------------------------- the ghost quasar: http://members.xoom.com/koby {reviewed links and a windows theme}
Spunk1111 (spu...@aol.com) wrote:
: I can see it on my usenet reader... hmmmmm...
: And why wouldn't your reader read an ASCII character?
I found the problem, I had it configured to translate
character 96 to the ESCape character for either FIDO or
RIME art groups so I could get ANSI pixtures on line,
sorry. It was only supposed to translate if the next
character was [ though.
: I've been under the impression that ASCII is universal.
The printable characters are, so please go by
the ASCII-art FAQ, don't worry about me, just tell me
when I goofed. :-) I test ASCII art by going to
MSDOS prompt and using "TYPE filename.ext" to see what
the picture should look like.
Joe Fischer
.----- On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 04:36:09 GMT, Koby Chodosh posted: | |Actually, ASCII means every single character displayable in an MS-DOS |window. ANSI is the windows version. However, as in "ascii art," the |word ascii has grown to mean every character on the lower-left hand |side of the keyboard. | '---------------------------- You are nurgled. :op Er, maybe I`m just not cut out for flaming - especially when I`m in such a good mood! The information you posted is innaccurate and may cause confusion. ANSI isn`t anything windows specific. ASCII is totally non os-specific and ASCII art is made using characters 32-127 in the ascii set missing out which ever one is DEL. (I can`t remember that) Please get your facts straight before posting, or include a disclamer, simlar to the one I have included for my message. I am in no way assuring anybody that my information is 100% accurate and will not be held responsible for any deaths, chickens or electric shocks resulting from use of my information. If you want to correct me, go ahead. I don`t think I`m 100% right anyway. So there. :op *toungue in cheeck mode* <g> |\/| _..__|_o._ /\_|_| o._ _ mart.atkins@-- | |(_|| |_|| | /--\|_|<|| |_> --bigfoot.com
Koby Chodosh wrote: >... > Actually, ASCII means every single character displayable in an MS-DOS > window. ANSI is the windows version. However, as in "ascii art," the > word ascii has grown to mean every character on the lower-left hand > side of the keyboard. No, not quite ... it's nothing to do with MS-DOS windows, or corners of the keyboard (there are several different kinds of keyboard, anyway). Allow me to quote myself (:-) from the FAQ: ---- The ASCII (American Standard Code for Information Interchange) character set is a set of 128 characters (0 to 127) which are standard on almost all types of computer. The only characters used in ASCII art are those with the values 32 to 126, which are shown below, and 13, which represents a carriage return (new line). The other characters in the ASCII character set (0-12, 13-31, and 127) are control codes for representing things such as `end of file' and `backspace'; they should not be used in ASCII art. 032 [space] 048 0 064 @ 080 P 096 ` 112 p 033 ! 049 1 065 A 081 Q 097 a 113 q 034 " 050 2 066 B 082 R 098 b 114 r 035 # 051 3 067 C 083 S 099 c 115 s 036 $ 052 4 068 D 084 T 100 d 116 t 037 % 053 5 069 E 085 U 101 e 117 u 038 & 054 6 070 F 086 V 102 f 118 v 039 ' 055 7 071 G 087 W 103 g 119 w 040 ( 056 8 072 H 088 X 104 h 120 x 041 ) 057 9 073 I 089 Y 105 i 121 y 042 * 058 : 074 J 090 Z 106 j 122 z 043 + 059 ; 075 K 091 [ 107 k 123 { 044 , 060 < 076 L 092 \ 108 l 124 | 045 - 061 = 077 M 093 ] 109 m 125 } 046 . 062 > 078 N 094 ^ 110 n 126 ~ 047 / 063 ? 079 O 095 _ 111 o ---- Bye -- .._o Matthew Thomas (mpt26 @ student . canterbury . ac . nz) ..://\/ http://cantua.canterbury.ac.nz/~mpt26/ (Site for sore eyes) ..:_/\ ASCII ART FAQ: http://cantua.canterbury.ac.nz/~mpt26/art/ascii/ ..:/ Linux. Because life is too short to reboot.
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