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Dufus and Rufus

Dufus and Rufus

alt.ascii-art · 10 messages · 25 Nov 2001 - 4 Dec 2001
The Silent Shadow <sil...@s.ashadow> ASCII art 25 Nov 2001 00:09 · permalink


     "Readin' the classified ads, Rufus?"
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LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

                  "Yep.. lookin' for a truck...(hic!!).., Dufus"
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            |______|___               \
           (_)     ||.'\
           (_)_____||.''\             ______________________
          /(_)  (__/ ..``\           |          |           |
         /// \_  _/ \ ' .`\          |          |           |
         /\\   ||  //\` . .\         |          |           |
         \_  //()\\  _\` `. \        |          |           |
           \  ____  /  \' .  /       |          |           |
      _____/\______/\_/._'. /        |          |           |
_____/` ' \  \ ^ /  /.  '` /_________|          |           |__
    /`.`. `\  \_/  /`  .``/          |_         |          _|
   /. ' /  `\_/ \_/`.'`'./          (__)        |         (__)
  /` . /' .` `.o. `. '.  |          (__)        |         (__)
_/. ` /`` . . . '`.' . ' |__________(__)        |         (__)__ 
 \` `.\. `. `  o . `'    |           |          |           |
__\` .`\' .` . ` '. `'.` |___________|__________|___________|__
   \`. `\'`. ` o'. . ' ' |             |        @        |
    \____\`. .' `  .' ` .|             \_________________/
    /_ _ _\______________|             /______|__|_______\
____\ \ \ \\__[__]_______|____________/                   |__
    /\_\_\_\             |           /          /         /
___/          /          |__________/          /         /___  
  /  ___     /   ___     /          |          |        |

LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

           "Find anything (hic!)?"
                     /
                    /
           __________
          //////////\\                ______________________
         ////////// \\\              |          |           |
        /// __    __ \\\             |          |           |
        /|| (O|  |(O ||\             |          |           |
        \_    (__)    _/             |          |           |
          \  ///\\\  /               |          |           |
      ____/\________/\____           |          |           |
_____/`  \   \   /    /.'`\__________|          |           |__
    /`.`. `\  \_/   /` .`` \         |_         |          _|
   /. ' /  `\_(_)_/`.'`\.`' \       (__)        |         (__)
  /` . /' .` _| |_ `. '.\` .`\      (__)        |         (__)
_/. ` /`` . /_____\.' . '\. `'\_____(__)        |         (__)__
 \` `.\. `.(__    \______/.'`  >     |          |           |
__\` .`\' .(__    |.`' ' '` .`/______|__________|___________|__
   \`. `\'`(______|__________/         |        @        |
    \____\`.|~~~~~|.' . .|             \_________________/
    /_ _ _\_|_____|______|             /______|__|_______\
____\ \ \ \\__[__]_______|____________/                   |__
    /\_\_\_\              \          /         /          /
___/          /           |_________/         /          /___
  /  ___     /   ___     /          |         |         |

LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

             "Yep, it says here that a (hic!) pickup truck is just 
              half a car sold at twice th price ta those who have
                         more dollars then sense...(hic!)."
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          //////////\\                ______________________
         ////////// \\\              |          |           |
        /// __    __ \\\             |          |           |
        /|| (O|  |(O ||\             |          |           |
        \_    (__)    _/             |          |           |
          \  ///\\\  /               |          |           |
      ____/\________/\____           |          |           |
_____/`  \   \   /    /.'`\__________|          |           |__
    /`.`. `\  \_/   /` .`` \         |_         |          _|
   /. ' /  `\_(_)_/`.'`\.`' \       (__)        |         (__)
  /` . /' .` _| |_ `. '.\` .`\      (__)        |         (__)
_/. ` /`` . /_____\.' . '\. `'\_____(__)        |         (__)__
 \` `.\. `.(__    \______/.'`  >     |          |           |
__\` .`\' .(__    |.`' ' '` .`/______|__________|___________|__
   \`. `\'`(______|__________/         |        @        |
    \____\`.|~~~~~|.' . .|             \_________________/
    /_ _ _\_|_____|______|             /______|__|_______\
____\ \ \ \\__[__]_______|____________/                   |__
    /\_\_\_\              \          /         /          /
___/          /           |_________/         /          /___
  /  ___     /   ___     /          |         |         |

LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

       "I drive a (hic!) pickup..."
               \
               \
           __________
          //////////\\                ______________________
         ////////// \\\              |          |           |
        /// __    __ \\\             |          |           |
        /|| (O|  |O) ||\             |          |           |
        \_    (__)    _/             |          |           |
          \  ///\\\  /               |          |           |
      ____/\________/\____           |          |           |
_____/`  \   \   /    /.'`\__________|          |           |__
    /`.`. `\  \_/   /` .`` \         |_         |          _|
   /. ' /  `\_(_)_/`.'`\.`' \       (__)        |         (__)
  /` . /' .` _| |_ `. '.\` .`\      (__)        |         (__)
_/. ` /`` . /_____\.' . '\. `'\_____(__)        |         (__)__
 \` `.\. `.(__    \______/.'`  >     |          |           |
__\` .`\' .(__    |.`' ' '` .`/______|__________|___________|__
   \`. `\'`(______|__________/         |        @        |
    \____\`.|~~~~~|.' . .|             \_________________/
    /_ _ _\_|_____|______|             /______|__|_______\
____\ \ \ \\__[__]_______|____________/                   |__
    /\_\_\_\              \          /         /          /
___/          /           |_________/         /          /___
  /  ___     /   ___     /          |         |         |

LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
                                           
                      "And looky here... it says (hic!) that they
                      take a (hic!) delivery truck and put seats 
                        in it and sell it as a converstion van."

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        /// __    __ \\\             |          |           |
        /|| (O|  |(O ||\             |          |           |
        \_    (__)    _/             |          |           |
          \  ///\\\  /               |          |           |
      ____/\________/\____           |          |           |
_____/`  \   \   /    /.'`\__________|          |           |__
    /`.`. `\  \_/   /` .`` \         |_         |          _|
   /. ' /  `\_(_)_/`.'`\.`' \       (__)        |         (__)
  /` . /' .` _| |_ `. '.\` .`\      (__)        |         (__)
_/. ` /`` . /_____\.' . '\. `'\_____(__)        |         (__)__
 \` `.\. `.(__    \______/.'`  >     |          |           |
__\` .`\' .(__    |.`' ' '` .`/______|__________|___________|__
   \`. `\'`(______|__________/         |        @        |
    \____\`.|~~~~~|.' . .|             \_________________/
    /_ _ _\_|_____|______|             /______|__|_______\
____\ \ \ \\__[__]_______|____________/                   |__
    /\_\_\_\              \          /         /          /
___/          /           |_________/         /          /___
  /  ___     /   ___     /          |         |         |

LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

                             "They ev'n take (hic!) stationwagins
                                  shaped like cracker boxes,
             ______                and put big tires on 'em
            |______|___              and sell 'em as SUVs."
           (_)     ||.'\                        \
           (_)_____||.''\             ______________________
          /(_)  (__/ ..``\           |          |           |
         /// \_  _/ \ ' .`\          |          |           |
         /\\   ||  //\` . .\         |          |           |
         \_  //()\\  _\` `. \        |          |           |
           \  ____  /  \' .  /       |          |           |
      _____/\______/\_/._'. /        |          |           |
_____/` ' \  \ ^ /  /.  '` /_________|          |           |__
    /`.`. `\  \_/  /`  .``/          |_         |          _|
   /. ' /  `\_/ \_/`.'`'./          (__)        |         (__)
  /` . /' .` `.o. `. '.  |          (__)        |         (__)
_/. ` /`` . . . '`.' . ' |__________(__)        |         (__)__ 
 \` `.\. `. `  o . `'    |           |          |           |
__\` .`\' .` . ` '. `'.` |___________|__________|___________|__
   \`. `\'`. ` o'. . ' ' |             |        @        |
    \____\`. .' `  .' ` .|             \_________________/
    /_ _ _\______________|             /______|__|_______\
____\ \ \ \\__[__]_______|____________/                   |__
    /\_\_\_\             |           /          /         /
___/          /          |__________/          /         /___  
  /  ___     /   ___     /          |          |         |

LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

     "Well.. (hic!) .. what kinda
        truck you gonna git?"
                     /
                    /
           __________
          //////////\\                ______________________
         ////////// \\\              |          |           |
        /// __    __ \\\             |          |           |
        /|| (O|  |O) ||\             |          |           |
        \_    (__)    _/             |          |           |
          \  ///\\\  /               |          |           |
      ____/\________/\____           |          |           |
_____/`  \   \   /    /.'`\__________|          |           |__
    /`.`. `\  \_/   /` .`` \         |_         |          _|
   /. ' /  `\_(_)_/`.'`\.`' \       (__)        |         (__)
  /` . /' .` _| |_ `. '.\` .`\      (__)        |         (__)
_/. ` /`` . /_____\.' . '\. `'\_____(__)        |         (__)__
 \` `.\. `.(__    \______/.'`  >     |          |           |
__\` .`\' .(__    |.`' ' '` .`/______|__________|___________|__
   \`. `\'`(______|__________/         |        @        |
    \____\`.|~~~~~|.' . .|             \_________________/
    /_ _ _\_|_____|______|             /______|__|_______\
____\ \ \ \\__[__]_______|____________/                   |__
    /\_\_\_\              \          /         /          /
___/          /           |_________/         /          /___
  /  ___     /   ___     /          |         |         |

LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

                             "I'm gonna git me one of them
                              two wheel kind... you know, 
                                    hand truck (hic!)" 
                                          \
           __________                      \
          //////////\\                ______________________
         ////////// \\\              |          |           |
        /// __    __ \\\             |          |           |
        /|| (@|  |@) ||\             |          |           |
        \_    (__)    _/             |          |           |
          \  ///\\\  /               |          |           |
      ____/\________/\____           |          |           |
_____/`  \   \   /    /.'`\__________|          |           |__
    /`.`. `\  \_/   /` .`` \         |_         |          _|
   /. ' /  `\_(_)_/`.'`\.`' \       (__)        |         (__)
  /` . /' .` _| |_ `. '.\` .`\      (__)        |         (__)
_/. ` /`` . /_____\.' . '\. `'\_____(__)        |         (__)__
 \` `.\. `.(__    \______/.'`  >     |          |           |
__\` .`\' .(__    |.`' ' '` .`/______|__________|___________|__
   \`. `\'`(______|__________/         |        @        |
    \____\`.|~~~~~|.' . .|             \_________________/
    /_ _ _\_|_____|______|             /______|__|_______\
____\ \ \ \\__[__]_______|____________/                   |__
    /\_\_\_\              \          /         /          /
___/          /           |_________/         /          /___
  /  ___     /   ___     /          |         |         |

LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

  "(hic!) Give me strength!"
               \
               \
             ______ 
            |______|___
           (_)     ||.'\
           (_)_____||.''\             ______________________
          /(_)  (__/ ..``\           |          |           |
         /// \_  _/ \ ' .`\          |          |           |
         /\\   ||  //\` . .\         |          |           |
         \_  //()\\  _\` `. \        |          |           |
           \  ____  /  \' .  /       |          |           |
      _____/\______/\_/._'. /        |          |           |
_____/` ' \  \ ^ /  /.  '` /_________|          |           |__
    /`.`. `\  \_/  /`  .``/          |_         |          _|
   /. ' /  `\_/ \_/`.'`'./          (__)        |         (__)
  /` . /' .` `.o. `. '.  |          (__)        |         (__)
_/. ` /`` . . . '`.' . ' |__________(__)        |         (__)__ 
 \` `.\. `. `  o . `'    |           |          |           |
__\` .`\' .` . ` '. `'.` |___________|__________|___________|__
   \`. `\'`. ` o'. . ' ' |             |        @        |
    \____\`. .' `  .' ` .|             \_________________/
    /_ _ _\______________|             /______|__|_______\
____\ \ \ \\__[__]_______|____________/                   |__
    /\_\_\_\             |           /          /         /
___/          /          |__________/          /         /___  
  /  ___     /   ___     /          |          |         |

MJP <mik...@bluedwarf.spam.net> ASCII art 25 Nov 2001 03:10 · permalink
On Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:09:33 GMT, sil...@s.ashadow (The Silent Shadow) wrote:

um, you really should put JRO's initials back on that comic.

and I dont know who's castle that was you posted earlier 
but I have seen that before as well.
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MJP <mik...@bluedwarf.spam.net> ASCII art 26 Nov 2001 04:36 · permalink
On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 04:44:57 GMT, sil...@a.ashadow (The Silent Shadow) wrote:

>
>Ok, since you evidently run an ASCII Gestapo service, you put whatever
>initials you believe belong on there, Mister.  If you will take
>notice, I did not make a claim to the ASCIIs. They never had initials
>on them when I got them out of another news group a long time ago.

I believe you.
I didn't accuse you.
I guess if I had said "Oh wow, there is that JRO cartoon, cool! Gosh
what happened his initials aren't on it, I bet you didnt know it was his
and you might want to put them on, like 'Original by JRO' or something."
you wouldn't have taken it as a personal attack. I wasn't meant as one.

>Henceforth, I will put "artist unknown" on such.  

ok

Gads! How picky
>do we get in this nosy news group anyway????
>Sheeeeeezzzzzzzzzzz...
>And I am sure you have seen the castle before since I did it about
>15 years ago.  

nice work.

Now, if you want to dispute that, you go right ahead
>and make an ass out of yourself. I really don't care who claims it
>otherwise because I just try to have fun and share the entertainment
>with others who have a good sense of humor, also.
>-Shadow

Excerpt from the FAQ for this news group:
10. Can I post or use other people's ASCII art?

  Don't assume that if somebody posts something to a newsgroup, that gives you
  the right to use it however you like; copyright laws still apply. For more
  information, see the article `Copyright Myths FAQ: 10 big myths about
  copyright explained' in news:news.announce.newusers. (It is also available at
  http://www.clari.net/brad/copymyths.html.)

  ASCII art is often an exception to this rule, though: generally, ASCII artists
  don't mind if you copy their pictures and repost them or put them on your own
  Web site for your personal use. There are a few important conditions, however.

  * If the picture contains a few letters in one corner which don't seem to be
    part of the picture, they're the artist's initials. DO NOT remove these
    initials -- would you cut away the part of a Van Gogh painting containing
    his name? Leaving the initials on is a small price to pay for being able to
    use the picture for free.

  * If you're going to use a picture in your signature file, or in a place (such
    as a log-in screen) which means you're going to be using it a lot, you
    should really e-mail the artist (or post to the newsgroup, if you don't know
    their address) and ask for permission, because otherwise people may get the
    mistaken impression that you were the one who drew the picture.

  As for posting other people's ASCII art, after a discussion in
  news:alt.ascii-art the following rules were agreed upon:

  1. If an ASCII ART picture has initials on it, leave them on when posting it.
  2. If an ASCII ART picture doesn't have initials on it, mention that you
     didn't draw it when posting it.
  3. If somebody posts a picture without initials and you have an original copy
     with initials, feel free to repost the original version. The repost ought
     not to be taken personally, as we all know that ASCII art often loses
     proper credits. Responses to the repost are not necessary.

     [Donovan]

_____- I didn't have a copy of the original handy, sorry.


>
>
>On 25 Nov 2001 03:10:47 GMT, mik...@bluedwarf.spam.net (MJP)
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:09:33 GMT, sil...@s.ashadow (The Silent Shadow) wrote:
>>
>>um, you really should put JRO's initials back on that comic.
>>
>>and I dont know who's castle that was you posted earlier 
>>but I have seen that before as well.
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Ok, since you evidently run an ASCII Gestapo service, you put whatever
initials you believe belong on there, Mister.  If you will take
notice, I did not make a claim to the ASCIIs.  They never had initials
on them when I got them out of another news group a long time ago.
Henceforth, I will put "artist unknown" on such.  Gads! How picky
do we get in this nosy news group anyway????
Sheeeeeezzzzzzzzzzz...
And I am sure you have seen the castle before since I did it about
15 years ago.  Now, if you want to dispute that, you go right ahead
and make an ass out of yourself. I really don't care who claims it
otherwise because I just try to have fun and share the entertainment
with others who have a good sense of humor, also.
-Shadow


On 25 Nov 2001 03:10:47 GMT, mik...@bluedwarf.spam.net (MJP)
wrote:

>On Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:09:33 GMT, sil...@s.ashadow (The Silent Shadow) wrote:
>
>um, you really should put JRO's initials back on that comic.
>
>and I dont know who's castle that was you posted earlier 
>but I have seen that before as well.
>-- 
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OK, I thank you for being a gentleman.
However, copyright is probably one of the most misunderstood
"concepts" ever.  It protects no one in and of itself.  All
it does is give a person who has filed and received a written
document of copyright that the work has been registered with 
the federal authority.  It then becomes valuable only if there 
is litigation.
There is even a specified form that the copyright notice must
take for it to be valid.  Otherwise, it is legally meaningless 
to just claim something to be copyrighted, such as "All rights
reserved," etc.
I have used copyright laws in art, music composition, magazine
articles, research papers and books that I have written in years 
past.  Unless they have been changed, I think there is just a lot of
wishful thinking about what copyright laws are meant to do in this
news group.
The greatest protection anyone can have for their work is to
simply avoid placing it in the public domain altogether.
-Shadown


On 26 Nov 2001 04:36:14 GMT, mik...@bluedwarf.spam.net (MJP)
wrote:

>On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 04:44:57 GMT, sil...@a.ashadow (The Silent Shadow) wrote:
>
>>
>>Ok, since you evidently run an ASCII Gestapo service, you put whatever
>>initials you believe belong on there, Mister.  If you will take
>>notice, I did not make a claim to the ASCIIs. They never had initials
>>on them when I got them out of another news group a long time ago.
>
>I believe you.
>I didn't accuse you.
>I guess if I had said "Oh wow, there is that JRO cartoon, cool! Gosh
>what happened his initials aren't on it, I bet you didnt know it was his
>and you might want to put them on, like 'Original by JRO' or something."
>you wouldn't have taken it as a personal attack. I wasn't meant as one.
>
>>Henceforth, I will put "artist unknown" on such.  
>
>ok
>
>Gads! How picky
>>do we get in this nosy news group anyway????
>>Sheeeeeezzzzzzzzzzz...
>>And I am sure you have seen the castle before since I did it about
>>15 years ago.  
>
>nice work.
>
>Now, if you want to dispute that, you go right ahead
>>and make an ass out of yourself. I really don't care who claims it
>>otherwise because I just try to have fun and share the entertainment
>>with others who have a good sense of humor, also.
>>-Shadow
>
>Excerpt from the FAQ for this news group:
>10. Can I post or use other people's ASCII art?
>
>  Don't assume that if somebody posts something to a newsgroup, that gives you
>  the right to use it however you like; copyright laws still apply. For more
>  information, see the article `Copyright Myths FAQ: 10 big myths about
>  copyright explained' in news:news.announce.newusers. (It is also available at
>  http://www.clari.net/brad/copymyths.html.)
>
>  ASCII art is often an exception to this rule, though: generally, ASCII artists
>  don't mind if you copy their pictures and repost them or put them on your own
>  Web site for your personal use. There are a few important conditions, however.
>
>  * If the picture contains a few letters in one corner which don't seem to be
>    part of the picture, they're the artist's initials. DO NOT remove these
>    initials -- would you cut away the part of a Van Gogh painting containing
>    his name? Leaving the initials on is a small price to pay for being able to
>    use the picture for free.
>
>  * If you're going to use a picture in your signature file, or in a place (such
>    as a log-in screen) which means you're going to be using it a lot, you
>    should really e-mail the artist (or post to the newsgroup, if you don't know
>    their address) and ask for permission, because otherwise people may get the
>    mistaken impression that you were the one who drew the picture.
>
>  As for posting other people's ASCII art, after a discussion in
>  news:alt.ascii-art the following rules were agreed upon:
>
>  1. If an ASCII ART picture has initials on it, leave them on when posting it.
>  2. If an ASCII ART picture doesn't have initials on it, mention that you
>     didn't draw it when posting it.
>  3. If somebody posts a picture without initials and you have an original copy
>     with initials, feel free to repost the original version. The repost ought
>     not to be taken personally, as we all know that ASCII art often loses
>     proper credits. Responses to the repost are not necessary.
>
>     [Donovan]
>
>_____- I didn't have a copy of the original handy, sorry.
>
>
>>
>>
>>On 25 Nov 2001 03:10:47 GMT, mik...@bluedwarf.spam.net (MJP)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:09:33 GMT, sil...@s.ashadow (The Silent Shadow) wrote:
>>>
>>>um, you really should put JRO's initials back on that comic.
>>>
>>>and I dont know who's castle that was you posted earlier 
>>>but I have seen that before as well.
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bonjour The Silent Shadow, je suis un robot!
>Ok, since you evidently run an ASCII Gestapo service, you put whatever
>initials you believe belong on there, Mister.  If you will take
>notice, I did not make a claim to the ASCIIs.  They never had initials
>on them when I got them out of another news group a long time ago.
>Henceforth, I will put "artist unknown" on such.  Gads! How picky
>do we get in this nosy news group anyway????

Yes, doing so IS expected of you.

>And I am sure you have seen the castle before since I did it about
>15 years ago.  Now, if you want to dispute that, you go right ahead
>and make an ass out of yourself. I really don't care who claims it
>otherwise because I just try to have fun and share the entertainment
>with others who have a good sense of humor, also.

I don't believe you're older than 15.
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Why don't you try doing something useful with your life, like
swatting flies with your wagging tongue and flapping jaws.
Or perhaps you could pretend to be the "Unknown artist" that
I will post on any drawings I find without credit lines, henceforth.
Sheeezzzzzzeeeeee...  Man, time is short.  Get a life!!!!!
-Shadow

On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 23:27:16 +0800, Bateau
<Its...@Not-A-Real-Address.com> wrote:

>bonjour The Silent Shadow, je suis un robot!
>>Ok, since you evidently run an ASCII Gestapo service, you put whatever
>>initials you believe belong on there, Mister.  If you will take
>>notice, I did not make a claim to the ASCIIs.  They never had initials
>>on them when I got them out of another news group a long time ago.
>>Henceforth, I will put "artist unknown" on such.  Gads! How picky
>>do we get in this nosy news group anyway????
>
>Yes, doing so IS expected of you.
>
>>And I am sure you have seen the castle before since I did it about
>>15 years ago.  Now, if you want to dispute that, you go right ahead
>>and make an ass out of yourself. I really don't care who claims it
>>otherwise because I just try to have fun and share the entertainment
>>with others who have a good sense of humor, also.
>
>I don't believe you're older than 15.
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____     On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 14:19:53 GMT
\__/___  The Silent Shadow ran through the
 LI-\o-' streets of alt.ascii-art
     |   waving an axe and screaming:
    / \
>OK, I thank you for being a gentleman.
>However, copyright is probably one of the most misunderstood
>"concepts" ever.  It protects no one in and of itself.  All
>it does is give a person who has filed and received a written
>document of copyright that the work has been registered with 
>the federal authority.  It then becomes valuable only if there 
>is litigation.
>There is even a specified form that the copyright notice must
>take for it to be valid.  Otherwise, it is legally meaningless 
>to just claim something to be copyrighted, such as "All rights
>reserved," etc.

No. Absolutely no copyright notice is required any more. It
automatically applies.

>I have used copyright laws in art, music composition, magazine
>articles, research papers and books that I have written in years 
>past.  Unless they have been changed, I think there is just a lot of
>wishful thinking about what copyright laws are meant to do in this
>news group.
>The greatest protection anyone can have for their work is to
>simply avoid placing it in the public domain altogether.

Publishing it does not place it in the public domain.
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____     On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 17:15:03 GMT
\__/___  The Silent Shadow ran through the
 LI-\o-' streets of alt.ascii-art
     |   waving an axe and screaming:
    / \
>Why don't you try doing something useful with your life, like
>swatting flies with your wagging tongue and flapping jaws.
>Or perhaps you could pretend to be the "Unknown artist" that
>I will post on any drawings I find without credit lines, henceforth.
>Sheeezzzzzzeeeeee...  Man, time is short.  Get a life!!!!!

Or I could whine about getting kicked out of a chat room.
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Yes, you could. Or you could keep picking your nose 
with your thumb up your butt, too, so you could draw
attention to your missing link by waving your axe 
and screming that you qualify for an act with
the Three Stoogies as one who believes he's gifted
with a vitriolic legerdemain.  But that might be
a little too complicated for the drivel that you are
best noted for.  Go back to swatting flies where your
talents for winning friends and influencing people 
can be best utilized.
-Shadow

On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 08:56:04 +0800, Bateau
<Its...@Not-A-Real-Address.com> wrote:

>____     On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 17:15:03 GMT
>\__/___  The Silent Shadow ran through the
> LI-\o-' streets of alt.ascii-art
>     |   waving an axe and screaming:
>    / \
>>Why don't you try doing something useful with your life, like
>>swatting flies with your wagging tongue and flapping jaws.
>>Or perhaps you could pretend to be the "Unknown artist" that
>>I will post on any drawings I find without credit lines, henceforth.
>>Sheeezzzzzzeeeeee...  Man, time is short.  Get a life!!!!!
>
>Or I could whine about getting kicked out of a chat room.
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