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· 16 messages · 8 Dec 1999 - 26 Dec 1999
Ben Norwood writes > >[1] And most of that was spent on the ascii in the page banners... [2] >[2] Converting " " to " " is no fun...especially when you're > text-align=center 'ing it... > [][ hi ... to avoid [2] above .. i do this :- <div><center><pre> # <!> ## ## ### <!> # # # # # # <!> # # # # <!> # # ### <!> # # # # # <!> # # # # # <!> ## # # # # <!> # # # <!> # # <!> ## <!> </pre></center></div> BTW ... nice page [][ see yuz [][ colin -- . /\_/\ ( () |_ | |\| _/ |? .\ |\| |) .\ |_ |_ :( a a( CJRandall http://www.shieldwolf.demon.co.uk ' \___") <<sPAMiSanUISANCE--=oOo=--tROLLSaREwORSE>>
Ben Norwood <bdn...@aber.ac.uk> writes: > > On Today, CJRandall wrote: > > : Ben Norwood writes > : > > : >[2] Converting " " to " " is no fun...especially when you're > : > text-align=center 'ing it... > : > > : [][ hi ... to avoid [2] above .. i do this :- > > Yeah, I knew I'd have to get each line to be the same width, but when > converting spaces to 's (especially on the 4-5 space periods > between words) it's all too easy to miss one out/add an extra one > and Well then, don't convert them! The trick is in the ..... ....<pre> Here your ASCII art with spaces </pre>.... ..... bit. These two tags make the Browser display the exact number of spaces, instead of concatenating them like it usually does. And they switch to fixed width font at the same time. > (btw, if you peek at the code you'll find a 'plain' version commented > out, using periods instead of spaces - a great reference tool <g>) Only have an 'plain' version with real spaces. And use <pre></pre>. See the source of my home page (URL in sig) for an example. -- Neil Franklin, nei...@franklin.ch.remove http://neil.franklin.ch/
Ben Norwood <bdn...@aber.ac.uk> wrote in message news:Pine.GSO.4.21.9912080234530.6521-100000@xena... > > Righteo folks, I've been promising to create an ascii-art section of my > website for ages now, and I've *finally* managed to get it > coded/converted/running. > > 100% hand-coded in pico, it actually looks quite slick (well, it ought > to since I've spent the past 5 hours on it...[1]), so feel free to go > and have a look and let me know what you think. > > What? The URI? Oh yeah, nearly forgot :) > > _____________________________________________ > |`. ,'| > | `._____________________________________,' | > | | | | > | | http://www.aber.ac.uk/~bdn95/ascii/ | | > | |_____________________________________| | > | ,' `. | > |,'_________________________________________`.| > > And for those interested in CSS, a copy of mine can be found at > > ______________________________________________ > |`. ,'| > | `.______________________________________,' | > | | | | > | | http://www.aber.ac.uk/~bdn95/css.txt | | > | |______________________________________| | > | ,' `. | > |,'__________________________________________`.| > > > --Ben > [1] And most of that was spent on the ascii in the page banners... [2] > [2] Converting " " to " " is no fun...especially when you're > text-align=center 'ing it... > > -- > Ben Norwood - the (ex-)Mad Biologist From Hell > http://www.bigfoot.com/~bdn95/ > bdn95 _@/" bigfoot.com > Nice to see you getting a page up, Ben. JRO
Ben Norwood <bdn...@aber.ac.uk> wrote: > _____________________________________________ > |`. ,'| > | `._____________________________________,' | > | | | | > | | http://www.aber.ac.uk/~bdn95/ascii/ | | > | |_____________________________________| | > | ,' `. | > |,'_________________________________________`.| > > And for those interested in CSS, a copy of mine can be found at > > ______________________________________________ > |`. ,'| > | `.______________________________________,' | > | | | | > | | http://www.aber.ac.uk/~bdn95/css.txt | | > | |______________________________________| | > | ,' `. | > |,'__________________________________________`.| > > > --Ben > [1] And most of that was spent on the ascii in the page banners... [2] > [2] Converting " " to " " is no fun...especially when you're > text-align=center 'ing it... Converting is no problem at all, if you use the right tools. For you are using pine&pico I assume that you are working on a unix-like OS. There are PLENTY of tools that can help you there - one I'd prefer is Vim[1] - Vi IMproved, a _much more_ powerful texteditor than pico (pico is like notepad - no features at all....). But you can also do this with sed, awk, perl and all the stuff. Hey, you have the possibility - don't waste it!! Have fun! [1] <URL:http://www.vim.org/> -- Gerfried Fuchs <URL:mailto:alf...@innocent.com> <URL:http://alfie.ist.org/alfie/>
In article <Pine.GSO.4.21.9912082036210.14315-100000@xena>, Ben Norwood <bdn...@aber.ac.uk> wrote: > > On Today, CJRandall wrote: > > : Ben Norwood writes > : > > : >[1] And most of that was spent on the ascii in the page banners... [2] > : >[2] Converting " " to " " is no fun...especially when you're > : > text-align=center 'ing it... > : > > : [][ hi ... to avoid [2] above .. i do this :- > : > >snip< > > Yeah, I knew I'd have to get each line to be the same width, but when > converting spaces to 's (especially on the 4-5 space periods > between words) it's all too easy to miss one out/add an extra one and > then spend ages trying to work out where the extra/missing space is > (btw, if you peek at the code you'll find a 'plain' version commented > out, using periods instead of spaces - a great reference tool <g>) > > -- > Ben Norwood - the (ex-)Mad Biologist From Hell > http://www.bigfoot.com/~bdn95/ > bdn95 _@/" bigfoot.com and you've still missed one. I see you are using a table anyway... _____________________ / /| / / | /____________________/ / |_____________________|/| || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || Why don't you let cellpadding be your friend? And as the others have said, use the <pre> tag for your ASCII-art. <pre> /\ (" /" "|" "|" /\ |") "|" /""\ _) \_ _|_ _|_ /""\ |"\ | </pre> \ \,^^%--- <\/ \ Please note that > there is a space >^^ after the | on /| the bottom of the ejm | \ "T" so that the banner will be centered. And don't forget to fill in those dimensions for your images! And do you really want your alt tags to have no hint about what the image is? Here is another attempt at making this post be on-topic: empty picture frame on the table; wastebasket overfull of extraneous s ___--________________ / |[]| /| / '__' / | /____________________/ / bs |_____________________|/| ,&bn; || || || || |`-'| || || || || | | || || || || | | || || `._&;p || || s n NOTE: I never pick up my mail from the yahoo address. If you are e-mailing and hit the reply button, add an "e" to "freent"; its absense is to stop the torment of automatic mailers. -- ___ cq547@freene+.+oron+o.on.ca _/ | ,^%--- llizard aka ejm |_____| __<_ \ Ben, it's very kind of you --- == >/ to link to my page. Thank you. [_____] __>,^ ASCII-ar+ and ASCII-anima+ions ejm| | //| | http://www.crosswinds.net/~llizard/
.----- On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:48:02 +0000, Ben Norwood posted: | |For most images, I do let alt= specify what the image is, but since the |dollie/micro-flossies are just there for decoration purposes, I thought |using alt= to effectively 'hide' them from lynx was a better idea than |cluttering up the banner with [dollie] Page Title [dollie] (although I |suppose I could always use something like an asterisk that points to a |textfile containing an ascii of flossie/dollie...) | '--------------------------------- It is generally a good idea to give purely decorational images and ALT="", so that Lynx and other text-only browsers will disregard it. Any useful image (such as those containing page titles or buttons) should usually have the ALT text set to that text written on the button... <H1><IMG SRC="./images/logo.gif" ALT="Page Title"></H1> <A HREF="./"><IMG SRC="./images/buttons/home.gif" ALT="Home"></A> and those images that are related to the text in some way... well, that depends on the circumstances. If it's just a photo of something mentioned in the text, that's not really necessary, ALT="" is probably a good idea. If it's an important diagram that forms part of an explaination or some such, it might be worth linking to it with the image and giving it an ALT text to the effect that it is a diagram of what it is, so that a Lynx user can follow the link to download the image. ObAscii: .------------------------------------------------. | HyperWeb version 2 [_][O] [X]| |-------------------------------------------+----| |.-----. .-----. .-----. .-----. .-----. |mga | ||<PREV| |NEXT>| |HOME!| |FIND!| |STOP!| | mga| |'-----' '-----' '-----' '-----' '-----' +----| |------------------------------------------------| | Address: [http://www.geoshitties.com/BoringVi] | |------------------------------------------------| | \ /[" | |" /"\ |\ /| [" Made for 5678x1000| |================================================| |Hom| \ /[" | /" /"\ |\/| [" |Best| |e | \/\/ |_ |_ \_ \_/ | | |_ |View| |Lin| T O |ed | |ks | M Y |with| |EMa| | / /"""\ /"""\ | |the | |il | |/ / \ / \ | |late| | | |\ \ / \ / | |st | | | | \ \___/ \___/ |____ |nift| | | S I T E! |y | |------------------------------------------------| |Ready. [?]| '------------------------------------------------' Kind Regards, -Martin |\/| _..__|_o._ /\_|_| o._ _ mart.atkins@-- | |(_|| |_|| | /--\|_|<|| |_> --bigfoot.com
Op Wed, 15 Dec 1999 13:21:01 +0000 schreef
Ben Norwood <bdn...@aber.ac.uk>
in <Pine.GSO.4.21.9912151248550.17343-100000@xena>
in alt.ascii-art:
[adding &npsb; and <br> between table-elements in HTML, for Lynx.]
: [Somehow I get the impression that sticking  's/br's between
: </tr> and <tr> or </td> and <td>, which I think GUI browsers will ignore
Many GUI browsers (IE4!) will _not_ ignore this trick... They will
render text, which is not properly embedded, _at the start_ of the
table!
Thus ''<table>1<tr>2<td>A</td>3<td>B</td>4</tr>5</table>'' renders as:
''
1
2
3
4
5
A B
'' in IE 4.
: but Lynx won't, will displease w3c's validator :( ]
That too!
: ObAscii:
8<
*
!
/A\
//X\\
//OAXO\
/OX/A\X\\
//X//A\\XO\
T
//BvG\\
Merry X-mas,
Buzz.
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This message exists of true and false bits entirely!
Martin Atkins wrote: > .----- On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:48:02 +0000, Ben Norwood posted: > | > |For most images, I do let alt= specify what the image is, but since the > |dollie/micro-flossies are just there for decoration purposes, I thought > |using alt= to effectively 'hide' them from lynx was a better idea than > |cluttering up the banner with [dollie] Page Title [dollie] (although I > |suppose I could always use something like an asterisk that points to a > |textfile containing an ascii of flossie/dollie...) > | > '--------------------------------- > > It is generally a good idea to give purely decorational images and ALT="", > so that Lynx and other text-only browsers will disregard it. Any useful > image (such as those containing page titles or buttons) should usually have > the ALT text set to that text written on the button... > > <H1><IMG SRC="./images/logo.gif" ALT="Page Title"></H1> > <A HREF="./"><IMG SRC="./images/buttons/home.gif" ALT="Home"></A> Why on earth would you place an image between <h1></h1> tags??? \_ /_,/\ /" ( .Y___ / \( \\__ / (\ |. ||\ |\ || \ ||\|| \ _||_||__ \ /,/, \ )/) \/\/// //|| (( (( || \\ \\|| __\\ _\\( b'ger ///_ ///__) joris
joris bellenger <svz...@xs4all.nl> wrote in message news:385...@xs4all.nl... > Martin Atkins wrote: > > <H1><IMG SRC="./images/logo.gif" ALT="Page Title"></H1> > > <A HREF="./"><IMG SRC="./images/buttons/home.gif" ALT="Home"></A> > Why on earth would you place an image > between <h1></h1> tags??? So Lynx displays the alternative text highlighted. You ascii guys should know about Lynx. Don't you? What kind of a headline is "Page Title," though? -- ___ __ __ "Muscles of All Limbs, Unite! / _ / _( ) You Have Nothing to Lose But Your Sinews." ( (_( (_))(__ \___\__(____) �OOL mcmxcix
joris bellenger wrote: > Ool wrote: > > joris bellenger wrote: > > > Martin Atkins wrote: > > > > > > <H1><IMG SRC="./images/logo.gif" ALT="Page Title"></H1> > > > > <A HREF="./"><IMG SRC="./images/buttons/home.gif" ALT="Home"></A> > > > > > Why on earth would you place an image > > > between <h1></h1> tags??? > > > > So Lynx displays the alternative text highlighted. > > You ascii guys should know about Lynx. > > Don't you? > > Why on earth would I want > highlighted alternative text > in Lynx? Alternative text was > never meant to be highlihgted. "Highligted"? I get <h1> text centered in Lynx. :-) > > The <h1></h1> tag is meant to > contain text not an image. > You Lynx guys should know > about HTML. Don't you? The <h1> tag is meant to contain a _header_. If the image _is_ a header (e.g. a logo), why not mark it up as such (also, <img> is text-level markup, so in a way I guess one could say that an image _is_ text in html...). -- (, http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/cgi/asciichat/ /|__--__ . __--__ |\ '__ /|\ _{ _ `.' / `.,_ _________ | _________ _,.' (/ `. / ||``._.' ASCII ART CHAT! `---'|:||,/ .' /| /|:| \ .' /\ \ __ __ _ `/|'\' ` `,/ /`,\ \ \ / /__ _ _ ___ _ _ (_)__ __ _ /,'\ \ .'.' /| \ V / -_) '_/ _ \ ' \| / _/ _` | |\ `.`. ,' / / | \_/\___|_| \___/_||_|_\__\__,_| | \ \ `, - `- -- `-'- -ejm-------------------------------------VK-- -`-' -- -' -
Ool wrote: > joris bellenger <svz...@xs4all.nl> wrote in message news:385...@xs4all.nl... > > Martin Atkins wrote: > > > > <H1><IMG SRC="./images/logo.gif" ALT="Page Title"></H1> > > > <A HREF="./"><IMG SRC="./images/buttons/home.gif" ALT="Home"></A> > > > Why on earth would you place an image > > between <h1></h1> tags??? > > So Lynx displays the alternative text highlighted. > You ascii guys should know about Lynx. > Don't you? > Why on earth would I want highlighted alternative text in Lynx? Alternative text was never meant to be highlihgted. \ /_,/\ /oo ( .Y___ / \( \\__ / (\ /) |. ||\ // |\ || \ // ||\|| \ // _||_||__ \/ /,/, \ )/ \/\/// // (( (( \\ \\ __\\ _\\ b'ger ///_ ///__) The <h1></h1> tag is meant to contain text not an image. You Lynx guys should know about HTML. Don't you? \ /_,/\ /== ( .Y___ / \( \\__ / (\ |. ||\ |\ || \ ||\|| \ _||_||__ \ /,/, \ )/) \/\/// //|| (( (( || \\ \\|| __\\ _\\( b'ger ///_ ///__) joris
Veronica Karlsson wrote: > joris bellenger wrote: > > Ool wrote: > > > joris bellenger wrote: > > > > Martin Atkins wrote: > > > > > > > > <H1><IMG SRC="./images/logo.gif" ALT="Page Title"></H1> > > > > > <A HREF="./"><IMG SRC="./images/buttons/home.gif" ALT="Home"></A> > > > > > > > Why on earth would you place an image > > > > between <h1></h1> tags??? > > > > > > So Lynx displays the alternative text highlighted. > > > You ascii guys should know about Lynx. > > > Don't you? > > > > Why on earth would I want > > highlighted alternative text > > in Lynx? Alternative text was > > never meant to be highlihgted. > > "Highligted"? I get <h1> text centered in Lynx. :-) > > > > > The <h1></h1> tag is meant to > > contain text not an image. > > You Lynx guys should know > > about HTML. Don't you? > > The <h1> tag is meant to contain a _header_. If the image _is_ a header > (e.g. a logo), why not mark it up as such (also, <img> is text-level > markup, so in a way I guess one could say that an image _is_ text in > html...). > Gaaaaarhg! I can't believe you wrote that. But let's not start an endless discussion about HTML and let's go back to what really matters: drawing ascii art pics .... HEY! Gif's are pics too, so in a way I guess one could say that a Gif _is_ a pic in ascii art. Right!? joris
joris bellenger wrote: > Veronica Karlsson wrote: > > joris bellenger wrote: <snip> > > > The <h1></h1> tag is meant to > > > contain text not an image. > > > > so in a way I guess one could say that an image _is_ text in html...). > > Gaaaaarhg! I can't believe you wrote that. > > But let's not start an endless discussion about HTML May I suggest a more suitable forum: http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/cgi/asciichat/ -- (, http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/cgi/asciichat/ /|__--__ . __--__ |\ '__ /|\ _{ _ `.' / `.,_ _________ | _________ _,.' (/ `. / ||``._.' ASCII ART CHAT! `---'|:||,/ .' /| /|:| \ .' /\ \ __ __ _ `/|'\' ` `,/ /`,\ \ \ / /__ _ _ ___ _ _ (_)__ __ _ /,'\ \ .'.' /| \ V / -_) '_/ _ \ ' \| / _/ _` | |\ `.`. ,' / / | \_/\___|_| \___/_||_|_\__\__,_| | \ \ `, - `- -- `-'- -ejm-------------------------------------VK-- -`-' -- -' -
.----- On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 23:16:43 +0100, Ool posted: |joris bellenger <svz...@xs4all.nl> wrote in message news:385...@xs4all.nl... |> Martin Atkins wrote: | |> > <H1><IMG SRC="./images/logo.gif" ALT="Page Title"></H1> |> > <A HREF="./"><IMG SRC="./images/buttons/home.gif" ALT="Home"></A> | |> Why on earth would you place an image |> between <h1></h1> tags??? | |So Lynx displays the alternative text highlighted. |You ascii guys should know about Lynx. |Don't you? | |What kind of a headline is "Page Title," though? | '------------------------- An example kind of heading. Obviously, you'd include the text of the heading that is in the image. Kind Regards, -Martin |\/| _..__|_o._ /\_|_| o._ _ mart.atkins@-- | |(_|| |_|| | /--\|_|<|| |_> --bigfoot.com
.----- On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 15:28:10 +0100, joris bellenger posted: |Martin Atkins wrote: | |> .----- On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:48:02 +0000, Ben Norwood posted: |> | |> |For most images, I do let alt= specify what the image is, but since the |> |dollie/micro-flossies are just there for decoration purposes, I thought |> |using alt= to effectively 'hide' them from lynx was a better idea than |> |cluttering up the banner with [dollie] Page Title [dollie] (although I |> |suppose I could always use something like an asterisk that points to a |> |textfile containing an ascii of flossie/dollie...) |> | |> '--------------------------------- |> |> It is generally a good idea to give purely decorational images and ALT="", |> so that Lynx and other text-only browsers will disregard it. Any useful |> image (such as those containing page titles or buttons) should usually have |> the ALT text set to that text written on the button... |> |> <H1><IMG SRC="./images/logo.gif" ALT="Page Title"></H1> |> <A HREF="./"><IMG SRC="./images/buttons/home.gif" ALT="Home"></A> | | Why on earth would you place an image | between <h1></h1> tags??? '-------------------------- Because that image is being a heading. <H1><IMG SRC="./images/headings/asciiart.gif" ALT="ASCII Art"></H1> That image would of course have some kind of stylistically written word 'ASCII Art'. Kind Regards, -Martin |\/| _..__|_o._ /\_|_| o._ _ mart.atkins@-- | |(_|| |_|| | /--\|_|<|| |_> --bigfoot.com
Veronica Karlsson wrote: > > joris bellenger wrote: > > > > Gif's are pics too, so in a way I guess one could say > > that a Gif _is_ a pic in ascii art. Right!? Well, yeah. They're all ones and zeroes, just depends on interpretation. > May I suggest a more suitable forum: > http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/cgi/asciichat/ But then I might have missed this one and scored a zero on the test later. Is it kosher to claim ASCII art such as in my .sig as OBASCII? cheers, -- Glenn Copeland /(0\ ge...@silverchat.com \1)/ What's on, your mind?
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