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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 14 Feb 2007.
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somewhat OT: Barcodes and keyboard strokes

somewhat OT: Barcodes and keyboard strokes

alt.ascii-art · 7 messages · 14 Feb 2007 - 19 Feb 2007
Hello, I'm a lurker on this group.  I have no artistic ability, but I like
to see the art, and the art farts are occasionally humorous.

Anyway, where I work we do a lot of bar-coding and scanning to help prevent
typos in the inventory system.  We are implementing a new system and have a
need to be able scan a code that would be the equivalent of pressing the
down arrow.  In the past we've been able to barcode spaces and tabs and
Carriage returns, but I'm stumped on down arrow.  Is it a real character (I
know it's probably not ASCII)?  We are currently using a 3 of 9 barcode font
to print the barcodes.

I realize this is off topic and I apologize if it is too far off.  This was
one of the places I thought might be good to ask.  If anyone can help or
point me to a better place that would be much appreciated.

Also, please keep posting art, I really enjoy it.

drax

Elmo <elm...@iglou.invalid> 14 Feb 2007 15:45 · permalink · report
drax wrote:
> Hello, I'm a lurker on this group.  I have no artistic ability, but I like
> to see the art, and the art farts are occasionally humorous.
> 
> Anyway, where I work we do a lot of bar-coding and scanning to help prevent
> typos in the inventory system.  We are implementing a new system and have a
> need to be able scan a code that would be the equivalent of pressing the
> down arrow.  In the past we've been able to barcode spaces and tabs and
> Carriage returns, but I'm stumped on down arrow.  Is it a real character (I
> know it's probably not ASCII)?  We are currently using a 3 of 9 barcode font
> to print the barcodes.
> 
> I realize this is off topic and I apologize if it is too far off.  This was
> one of the places I thought might be good to ask.  If anyone can help or
> point me to a better place that would be much appreciated.
> 
> Also, please keep posting art, I really enjoy it.
> 
> drax

This might get you started:

http://www.morovia.com/supportforum/forum_posts_TID_223_PN_1.html

-- 
Joe   =o)

"Elmo" <elm...@iglou.invalid> wrote in message
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> drax wrote:
> > Hello, I'm a lurker on this group.  I have no artistic ability, but I
like
> > to see the art, and the art farts are occasionally humorous.
> >
> > Anyway, where I work we do a lot of bar-coding and scanning to help
prevent
> > typos in the inventory system.  We are implementing a new system and
have a
> > need to be able scan a code that would be the equivalent of pressing the
> > down arrow.  In the past we've been able to barcode spaces and tabs and
> > Carriage returns, but I'm stumped on down arrow.  Is it a real character
(I
> > know it's probably not ASCII)?  We are currently using a 3 of 9 barcode
font
> > to print the barcodes.
> >
> > I realize this is off topic and I apologize if it is too far off.  This
was
> > one of the places I thought might be good to ask.  If anyone can help or
> > point me to a better place that would be much appreciated.
> >
> > Also, please keep posting art, I really enjoy it.
> >
> > drax
>
> This might get you started:
>
> http://www.morovia.com/supportforum/forum_posts_TID_223_PN_1.html
>
> -- 
> Joe   =o)

Thanks for the reply, that's quite an old thread, but a similar situation.
I have the scanner's manual so I'll have to dig into it in more detail.

drax

Annie <m...@privacy.net> ASCII art 15 Feb 2007 22:25 · permalink · report


On 2007-02-14 dra...@spamsandwichhotmail.com said:

   > Hello, I'm a lurker on this group.  I have no artistic ability, but
   > I like to see the art, and the art farts are occasionally humorous.
   >
   > Anyway, where I work we do a lot of bar-coding and scanning to help
   > prevent typos in the inventory system.  We are implementing a new
   > system and have a need to be able scan a code that would be the
   > equivalent of pressing the down arrow.  In the past we've been able
   > to barcode spaces and tabs and Carriage returns, but I'm stumped on
   > down arrow.  Is it a real character (I know it's probably not
   > ASCII)?  We are currently using a 3 of 9 barcode font to print the
   > barcodes.
   >
   > I realize this is off topic and I apologize if it is too far off.
   > This was one of the places I thought might be good to ask.  If
   > anyone can help or point me to a better place that would be much
   > appreciated.
   >
   > Also, please keep posting art, I really enjoy it.
   >
   > drax


        The "down arrow" key doesn't generate a character.
        It generates an ASCII code of 00h, and a keyboard
        scan code of 50h.

        The only way to simulate a "down arrow" keypress is
        to stuff the appropriate codes into the keyboard
        buffer, followed by a carriage return.

        If your staff programmers don't know how to do this,
        they should probably be fired for incompetence.

        Since yours is essentially a low-level programming
        question, try a programming newsgroup.  alt.lang.asm
        would be a good choice. And be sure to specify what
        programming language you're using.
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"Annie" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> On 2007-02-14 dra...@spamsandwichhotmail.com said:
>
>    > Hello, I'm a lurker on this group.  I have no artistic ability, but
>    > I like to see the art, and the art farts are occasionally humorous.
>    >
>    > Anyway, where I work we do a lot of bar-coding and scanning to help
>    > prevent typos in the inventory system.  We are implementing a new
>    > system and have a need to be able scan a code that would be the
>    > equivalent of pressing the down arrow.  In the past we've been able
>    > to barcode spaces and tabs and Carriage returns, but I'm stumped on
>    > down arrow.  Is it a real character (I know it's probably not
>    > ASCII)?  We are currently using a 3 of 9 barcode font to print the
>    > barcodes.
>    >
>    > I realize this is off topic and I apologize if it is too far off.
>    > This was one of the places I thought might be good to ask.  If
>    > anyone can help or point me to a better place that would be much
>    > appreciated.
>    >
>    > Also, please keep posting art, I really enjoy it.
>    >
>    > drax
>
>
>         The "down arrow" key doesn't generate a character.
>         It generates an ASCII code of 00h, and a keyboard
>         scan code of 50h.
>
>         The only way to simulate a "down arrow" keypress is
>         to stuff the appropriate codes into the keyboard
>         buffer, followed by a carriage return.
>
>         If your staff programmers don't know how to do this,
>         they should probably be fired for incompetence.
>
>         Since yours is essentially a low-level programming
>         question, try a programming newsgroup.  alt.lang.asm
>         would be a good choice. And be sure to specify what
>         programming language you're using.
>                                \
>                                     _____
>                                    (((   `\
>                                    _ _`\   )
>                  _____________     (^  )   )
>                 //////`       |     ~-(     )
>                _|____ `       |     _'((,,,))
>               |:::::||`       |  ,-' \_/    `\
>               |_____||`       | (          ,  |
>                 |_____|_______/  `-.-'`-.-'/|_|
>                ___/____|___\___     \     / | |
>               |    _       <<<:|---------- /'.'---.
>               |_________)___o_o|      __ /'/'      \
>              /         (________/----(__//)         \
>             (________________________________________)
>               )_(|              /  /\  \----`   |)_(
>               | ||             / .'||\ |   ||   || |
>               | |)            / (  || \(   ||   (| |
>               | |            / /'  ()  \`. ()    | |
>               |_|           `-'         \ \      |_|
>               (_)                        \/ aa   (_)
>
>
>
>

Thanks for the info, as to staff programmers we don't have any!  I'm the
network admin here, and we're just trying to simplify input into a new
system using barcodes.  The scanners we use are keyboard wedges so basically
anything that gets scanned goes into the keyboard buffer.  That's why I'm
trying to make a barcode for the down arrow.

If all that fails we could train the idiots to simply press the down arrow.
No doubt they will complain vigorously about what a pain in the butt that
is.

thanks again,

drax

Annie <m...@privacy.net> ASCII art 16 Feb 2007 21:52 · permalink · report


On 2007-02-16 dra...@spamsandwichhotmail.com said:

   > Thanks for the info, as to staff programmers we don't have any!
   > I'm the network admin here, and we're just trying to simplify input
   > into a new system using barcodes.  The scanners we use are keyboard
   > wedges so basically anything that gets scanned goes into the
   > keyboard buffer.  That's why I'm trying to make a barcode for the
   > down arrow.


        Unless the "down arrow" key has a specific function in
        your scanning software that you MUST use, you'd probably
        be better off to choose a different key; one that generates
        an ASCII code. How about the grave accent [ ` ] or the
        tilde [ ~ ]? Those normally don't occur in conventional
        English text strings.
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"Annie" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> On 2007-02-16 dra...@spamsandwichhotmail.com said:
>
>    > Thanks for the info, as to staff programmers we don't have any!
>    > I'm the network admin here, and we're just trying to simplify input
>    > into a new system using barcodes.  The scanners we use are keyboard
>    > wedges so basically anything that gets scanned goes into the
>    > keyboard buffer.  That's why I'm trying to make a barcode for the
>    > down arrow.
>
>
>         Unless the "down arrow" key has a specific function in
>         your scanning software that you MUST use, you'd probably
>         be better off to choose a different key; one that generates
>         an ASCII code. How about the grave accent [ ` ] or the
>         tilde [ ~ ]? Those normally don't occur in conventional
>         English text strings.
>            \
>                                       Tran...?
>                                        /
>                                                 Ah, so! Hello,
>              _____                              pretty white lady.
>             (((   `\             .'''';;.              /
>             _ _`\   )           ;:     ;;:     _```,
>             (^  )   )           :(c)(c)-:::   -   ?
>              ~-(     )          ;( `   ;;::    '-|\.
>              _'((,,,)))         ;; =_.';:::     /  '\
>           ,-' \_/    `\         ;::\_/ :;:;    .\_ |_\
>          (          ,  |        /        \      \__.  \
>           `-.-'`-.-'/|_|    ,- : (_. (_.. :       |   |
>       \_/    \     / | |  |/|  | |     || |       |   |
>    --- I ---------------- |.| ------------------- /___| ----
>                           '-'                     ===    aa
>
>

Well, unfortunately I can't touch the software, it's a big commercial
package similar to SAP, but cheaper.  It's being deployed group wide, and we
have no choice in the matter.  Also unfortunately the down arrow is required
to explode a Bill of Materials while entering a production order.  If I
can't represent the down arrow with a barcode the users are going to have to
hit it manually.  It's been my experience that when users start touching the
keyboard they start introducing bad data.  I can hardly wait.

drax

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