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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 17 Jun 1997.
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Help me with my apple!

Help me with my apple!

alt.ascii-art · 5 messages · 17 Jun 1997 - 2 Jul 1997
I requested a sig sized apple a while back but didn't find any that
were really what I wanted, so I tried making my own. I'm not an 
experienced ascii-artist and I'd like an opinion or help with this
design. Suggestions for improvement are welcome!

Thanks,

Karen 

          ,~_~,._
          /'`'`'
    ,d88b.d88b, 
    88888888888     
    d888888888b    
    `d8888888b'                     
      `d8^8b'

beyond cool <web...@cyberpromo.com> ASCII art 19 Jun 1997 00:00 · permalink
            .,=,
           7 '"'
      ,d$b.d$b, 
     d$$$$$$$:$b     
     q$$$$$$.,$P    
     `q$$$$$$$p'                     
       `dP^qb'
 


Small changes ... It seems rounder now, has a 'highlight' and standard
ascii only now ...


-- 
                            $b.         ,$$$$$Mm.
                            $$$$,       $$$$$ $$$b.
                            $$$$$       $$$$$ $$$$$
                            $$$$$$Mm.   $$$$$ �"$$$
                            $$$$$ $$$b. $$$$$ $b.'$
                            $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$'
                            $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$,
                            $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$
                            $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$
                            $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$
                            q$$$$ $$$$$ q$$$$ $$$$$
                             "O$$w$$$$'  "O$$w$$$$'

nos...@musician.org
http://artemis.arcadis.be/beyond_cool

K.T.D. <kar...@dadd.tiREMOVE.com> wrote in article
<33A...@dadd.tiREMOVE.com>...
> I requested a sig sized apple a while back but didn't find any that
> were really what I wanted, so I tried making my own. I'm not an 
> experienced ascii-artist and I'd like an opinion or help with this
> design. Suggestions for improvement are welcome!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Karen 
> 
> 

In a message of 19 Jun 97 Veronica Karlsson wrote to All:

 VK> What in this apple is not "standard ascii"?
 VK>           ,~_~,._
 VK>           /'`'`'
 VK>     ,d88b.d88b, 
 VK>     88888888888     
 VK>     d888888888b    
 VK>     `d8888888b'                     
 VK>       `d8^8b'
 VK> Lets see if I can find what you are referring to

Nice apple btw.

 VK> Ascii table:
 VK>      |  0 NUL|  1 SOH|  2 STX|  3 ETX|  4 EOT|  5 ENQ|  6 ACK|  7 BEL|
 VK>      |  8 BS |  9 HT | 10 NL | 11 VT | 12 NP | 13 CR | 14 SO | 15 SI |
 VK>      | 16 DLE| 17 DC1| 18 DC2| 19 DC3| 20 DC4| 21 NAK| 22 SYN| 23 ETB|
 VK>      | 24 CAN| 25 EM | 26 SUB| 27 ESC| 28 FS | 29 GS | 30 RS | 31 US |
 VK>      | 32 SP | 33  ! | 34  " | 35  # | 36  $ | 37  % | 38  & | 39  ' |
 VK>      | 40  ( | 41  ) | 42  * | 43  + | 44  , | 45  - | 46  . | 47  / |
 VK>      | 48  0 | 49  1 | 50  2 | 51  3 | 52  4 | 53  5 | 54  6 | 55  7 |
 VK>      | 56  8 | 57  9 | 58  : | 59  ; | 60  < | 61  = | 62  > | 63  ? |
 VK>      | 64  @ | 65  A | 66  B | 67  C | 68  D | 69  E | 70  F | 71  G |
 VK>      | 72  H | 73  I | 74  J | 75  K | 76  L | 77  M | 78  N | 79  O |
 VK>      | 80  P | 81  Q | 82  R | 83  S | 84  T | 85  U | 86  V | 87  W |
 VK>      | 88  X | 89  Y | 90  Z | 91  [ | 92  \ | 93  ] | 94  ^ | 95  _ |
 VK>      | 96  ` | 97  a | 98  b | 99  c |100  d |101  e |102  f |103  g |
 VK>      |104  h |105  i |106  j |107  k |108  l |109  m |110  n |111  o |
 VK>      |112  p |113  q |114  r |115  s |116  t |117  u |118  v |119  w |
 VK>      |120  x |121  y |122  z |123  { |124  | |125  } |126  ~ |127 DEL|

You're missing 128-255 I have some of them on a table, do you want it?

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hello
In article <33B...@freent.toronto.on.ca>, cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca says...
>
>In article <970...@darkside.demon.co.uk>, Edward Farrow
><wil...@darkside.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> In a message of 19 Jun 97 Veronica Karlsson wrote to All:
>> 
>>  VK> What in this apple is not "standard ascii"?
>>  VK>           ,~_~,._
>>  VK>           /'`'`'
>>  VK>     ,d88b.d88b,
>>  VK>     88888888888
>>  VK>     d888888888b
>>  VK>     `d8888888b'
>>  VK>       `d8^8b'
>>  VK> Lets see if I can find what you are referring to
>> 
>> Nice apple btw.
>> 
>>  VK> Ascii table:
>>  VK>      |  0 NUL|  1 SOH|  2 STX|  3 ETX|  4 EOT|  5 ENQ|  6 ACK|  7 BEL|
>>  VK>      |  8 BS |  9 HT | 10 NL | 11 VT | 12 NP | 13 CR | 14 SO | 15 SI |
>>  VK>      | 16 DLE| 17 DC1| 18 DC2| 19 DC3| 20 DC4| 21 NAK| 22 SYN| 23 ETB|
>>  VK>      | 24 CAN| 25 EM | 26 SUB| 27 ESC| 28 FS | 29 GS | 30 RS | 31 US |
>>  VK>      | 32 SP | 33  ! | 34  " | 35  # | 36  $ | 37  % | 38  & | 39  ' |
>>  VK>      | 40  ( | 41  ) | 42  * | 43  + | 44  , | 45  - | 46  . | 47  / |
>>  VK>      | 48  0 | 49  1 | 50  2 | 51  3 | 52  4 | 53  5 | 54  6 | 55  7 |
>>  VK>      | 56  8 | 57  9 | 58  : | 59  ; | 60  < | 61  = | 62  > | 63  ? |
>>  VK>      | 64  @ | 65  A | 66  B | 67  C | 68  D | 69  E | 70  F | 71  G |
>>  VK>      | 72  H | 73  I | 74  J | 75  K | 76  L | 77  M | 78  N | 79  O |
>>  VK>      | 80  P | 81  Q | 82  R | 83  S | 84  T | 85  U | 86  V | 87  W |
>>  VK>      | 88  X | 89  Y | 90  Z | 91  [ | 92  \ | 93  ] | 94  ^ | 95  _ |
>>  VK>      | 96  ` | 97  a | 98  b | 99  c |100  d |101  e |102  f |103  g |
>>  VK>      |104  h |105  i |106  j |107  k |108  l |109  m |110  n |111  o |
>>  VK>      |112  p |113  q |114  r |115  s |116  t |117  u |118  v |119  w |
>>  VK>      |120  x |121  y |122  z |123  { |124  | |125  } |126  ~ |127 DEL|
>> 
>> You're missing 128-255 I have some of them on a table, do you want it?
>
>Sigh.  128-255 are NOT STANDARD ascii characters.
>
>Ummm.  If you had read Colin's "ASCII ART FAQ (Jorn Barger)" that comes
>into this newsgroup at least once a month, you would have seen
>
>
>: *************************
>:  The ASCII character set
>: *************************
>:
>: The American Standard Code for Information Interchange supplies a
>: character-assignment for each number from zero to 127 (7F in
>: hexadecimal).  As I understand it, Internet protocols are optimized
>: for this seven-bit range--if you're trying to ftp an eight-bit-wide
>: file, you have to specially request 'binary' transmission.  (So the
>: opposite of binary, here, is *ASCII*.)
>:
>: Only the numbers from 32 to 126 (20 to 7E hex) are defined as
>: *printable* characters (the others are defined as control codes):
>
>
>Or if you thought that was too time consuming, you could have read the
>shorter "WARNING: Control Codes" that Colin also posts into this
>newsgroup at least once a month and seen
>
>:
>: Extended Character Set:
>: ----------------------
>:
>: The only Ascii characters which should be posted and used
>: in Ascii Art are:  
>:         Decimal characters   32 to 127.
>:
>: The Extended Character Set of Decimal 128 to 255 made by using the 
>: Alt key, and used for ANSI pictures, must be UUencoded before 
>: posting to the Net and should not be used in ASCII artwork pictures.
>:
>
>Incidentally, that _is_ a nice apple
>
>          ,~_~,._
>          /'`'`'
>    ,d88b.d88b, 
>    88888888888
>    d888888888b
>    `d8888888b'
>      `d8^8b'
>
>and so is this altered one.
>
>            .,=,
>           7 '"'
>      ,d$b.d$b, 
>     d$$$$$$$:$b
>     q$$$$$$.,$P
>     `q$$$$$$$p'
>       `dP^qb'
>
>And as far as I can see, none of the apples uses non-standard ascii
>characters.
>
>
>(Edward, I'm e-mailing this as well because I can't be certain that my
>server will actually post this internationally.)
>
>NOTE: If you hit the reply button, add an "e" to the "freent";
>its absense is to stop the torment of automatic mailers.
>--
>          ___      ?/\
>        _/   |  ===%^^,        My head hurts....
>       |_____|     \/ >
>         ---  ==      >
>       [_____]      __>,^       llizard aka ejm
>ejm97   |   |      //| |  cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca

Edward Farrow wrote:
> 
> In a message of 19 Jun 97 Veronica Karlsson wrote to All:
> 
>  VK> What in this apple is not "standard ascii"?
>  VK>           ,~_~,._
>  VK>           /'`'`'
>  VK>     ,d88b.d88b,
>  VK>     88888888888
>  VK>     d888888888b
>  VK>     `d8888888b'
>  VK>       `d8^8b'
>  VK> Lets see if I can find what you are referring to
> 
> Nice apple btw.
> 
>  VK> Ascii table:
>  VK>      |  0 NUL|  1 SOH|  2 STX|  3 ETX|  4 EOT|  5 ENQ|  6 ACK|  7 BEL|
>  VK>      |  8 BS |  9 HT | 10 NL | 11 VT | 12 NP | 13 CR | 14 SO | 15 SI |
>  VK>      | 16 DLE| 17 DC1| 18 DC2| 19 DC3| 20 DC4| 21 NAK| 22 SYN| 23 ETB|
>  VK>      | 24 CAN| 25 EM | 26 SUB| 27 ESC| 28 FS | 29 GS | 30 RS | 31 US |
>  VK>      | 32 SP | 33  ! | 34  " | 35  # | 36  $ | 37  % | 38  & | 39  ' |
>  VK>      | 40  ( | 41  ) | 42  * | 43  + | 44  , | 45  - | 46  . | 47  / |
>  VK>      | 48  0 | 49  1 | 50  2 | 51  3 | 52  4 | 53  5 | 54  6 | 55  7 |
>  VK>      | 56  8 | 57  9 | 58  : | 59  ; | 60  < | 61  = | 62  > | 63  ? |
>  VK>      | 64  @ | 65  A | 66  B | 67  C | 68  D | 69  E | 70  F | 71  G |
>  VK>      | 72  H | 73  I | 74  J | 75  K | 76  L | 77  M | 78  N | 79  O |
>  VK>      | 80  P | 81  Q | 82  R | 83  S | 84  T | 85  U | 86  V | 87  W |
>  VK>      | 88  X | 89  Y | 90  Z | 91  [ | 92  \ | 93  ] | 94  ^ | 95  _ |
>  VK>      | 96  ` | 97  a | 98  b | 99  c |100  d |101  e |102  f |103  g |
>  VK>      |104  h |105  i |106  j |107  k |108  l |109  m |110  n |111  o |
>  VK>      |112  p |113  q |114  r |115  s |116  t |117  u |118  v |119  w |
>  VK>      |120  x |121  y |122  z |123  { |124  | |125  } |126  ~ |127 DEL|
> 
> You're missing 128-255 I have some of them on a table, do you want it?

I think that the person who accused the maker of that apple to use
non-standard ascii meant that the picture contained characters in that
range, which I claim that it doesn't. The range 128-255 has different
definitions and interpretations on different computers (even in
different programs in the same computer) and I have got the impression
that they are considered unsuitable for ascii pictures. Your table would
probably come up as ape shit on my screen, in any case not as what you
intended, but please post it and I will show you a screen shot of what
shows up when I try to watch it... (if you use a PC with Windows 3.x or
Win95 you can make a similar picture using this program:
http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/progs/grab )

-- 
:)
Veronica Karlsson
( e93...@sm.luth.se  http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/ )
( llizard's fanclub:  http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/llpages )

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