Protect yourself against Operation Sudden Fall

You have the wrong group I believe your looking for
alt.x-files.kook.conspiracy

besides do you now think CIA or who ever does not already have the 
encryption keys for those programs already.


<Pil...@dea.gov> wrote in message 
news:It6...@news.dea.gov...
> Law enforcement is now intercepting text messages,
> as proven by Operation Sudden Fall in San Diego.
>
> http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/states/newsrel/sd050608.html
> http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/education/20080506-1338-bn06sdsu2.html
>
> Don't let your personal SMS/text messages fall into
> the wrong hands.  Encrypt your messages with one
> of these:
>
>   http://www.CryptoSMS.org
>   http://www.CryptoSMS.com
>   http://www.FortressMail.net/fortress_sms.htm
>   http://www.Cop2p.com/encrypted_sms.html
>
> Be Safe, Be Encrypted, Fuck the Police!!
>
> --
> As maybe as Marla deserts, you can belong the repetition much more 
> shrilly. 

"nick markowitz" wrote:
>
> You have the wrong group I believe your looking for
> alt.x-files.kook.conspiracy

He's just looking for suckers to buy his useless software.

> besides do you now think CIA or who ever does not already have the 
> encryption keys for those programs already.

The software probably doesn't do anything at all.  Spammers never sell 
anything useful.

-- 

Regards,
Robert L Bass

==============================>
Bass Home Electronics
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota � Florida � 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
Sales & Tech Support 941-925-8650
Customer Service 941-870-2310
Fax 941-870-3252
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Robert L Bass wrote:
> "nick markowitz" wrote:
>>
>> You have the wrong group I believe your looking for
>> alt.x-files.kook.conspiracy
> 
> He's just looking for suckers to buy his useless software.
> 
>> besides do you now think CIA or who ever does not already have the 
>> encryption keys for those programs already.
> 
> The software probably doesn't do anything at all.  Spammers never sell 
> anything useful.
> 
they can look at all the text messages of mine they want to look at. 
since I'm not doing anything illegal, why would I care?

Joe wrote:
> they can look at all the text messages of mine they want to look at.
> since I'm not doing anything illegal, why would I care?

It's that attitude that has led to the gradual erosion of our rights under 
the constitution.

-- 
js

The voices in my head told me to clean my guns today.

alarman wrote:
> Joe wrote:
>> they can look at all the text messages of mine they want to look at.
>> since I'm not doing anything illegal, why would I care?
> 
> It's that attitude that has led to the gradual erosion of our rights under 
> the constitution.
> 
rights to do what?

"alarman" wrote:
> Joe wrote:
>> they can look at all the text messages of mine they want to look at.
>> since I'm not doing anything illegal, why would I care?
>
> It's that attitude that has led to the gradual erosion of our rights under 
> the constitution.

Correction: It's that attitude that has led to the gradual erosion of our 
constitutional right under the Bush administration.  A few regular ASA posters 
support what Bush is doing because they foolishly believe he's trying to fight 
terrorists.  In fact, he and his cronies are in it for power and money and 
nothing else.  Meanwhile this administration has done absolutely nothing of 
value to protect our nation.  Instead, they have done everything possible to 
enrage these nut-cases.  When Al Qaida or some other bunch of loonies finally 
does get their hands on a nuclear bomb and sets it off in one of our ports, 
people like that will march us into a dictatorship and think they've done a 
good thing.

-- 

Regards,
Robert L Bass

==============================>
Bass Home Electronics
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota � Florida � 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
Sales & Tech Support 941-925-8650
Customer Service 941-870-2310
Fax 941-870-3252
==============================> 

Robert L Bass wrote:
> "alarman" wrote:
>> Joe wrote:
>>> they can look at all the text messages of mine they want to look at.
>>> since I'm not doing anything illegal, why would I care?
>>
>> It's that attitude that has led to the gradual erosion of our rights 
>> under the constitution.
> 
> Correction: It's that attitude that has led to the gradual erosion of 
> our constitutional right under the Bush administration.  A few regular 
> ASA posters support what Bush is doing because they foolishly believe 
> he's trying to fight terrorists.  In fact, he and his cronies are in it 
> for power and money and nothing else.  Meanwhile this administration has 
> done absolutely nothing of value to protect our nation.  Instead, they 
> have done everything possible to enrage these nut-cases.  When Al Qaida 
> or some other bunch of loonies finally does get their hands on a nuclear 
> bomb and sets it off in one of our ports, people like that will march us 
> into a dictatorship and think they've done a good thing.
> 
There is no constitutional right to break the law.  can we see who is 
doing illegal stuff.  alarman and Bass don't want uncle sam to know what 
they are texting.  wonder why?

"Joe" wrote:
>
> rights to do what?

The US Bill of Rights.

- Amendment I
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or 
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or 
of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to 
petition the government for a redress of grievances."

The Bush Administration, though it's support for so-called faith-based 
initiatives, has violated the spirit and the ;etter of the First Amendment. 
This is no small matter, for in our system of governemt all groups are 
entitled equal rights.  Want to see your tax dollars supporting Muslim, 
Buddhist and Mormon groups?

- Amendment II
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, 
the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

Despite pleas from law enforcement at all levels, the Bush Administration 
allowed rules pertaining to assault weapons to lapse in a lblatant effort to 
pander to gun manufacturers and the NRA.

- Amendment III
"No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the 
consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by 
law."

Unfortunately, the Bush Administration and those preceding it have pretty much 
abandoned "the troops", leaving them without proper medical, social and 
economic support.  That this has been done to _wounded_ American soldiers is a 
disgrace.  That Bush, who went AWOL like the coward he is, used a bunch of 
lying scoundrels to denegrate the heroics of a true war hero, John Kerry, in 
order to ensure a second term as Idiot in Chief, is despicable.

- Amendment IV
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and 
effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, 
and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or 
affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the 
persons or things to be seized."

Bush has ordered surreptitious wire taps against innocent American citizens at 
home and abroad.  His administration has so violated the Fourth Amendment as 
to render it inoperative.  The excuse is that they're fighting "Al Quadi and 
other extremists" but they're really trying to run a dictatorship.  Someone 
has said that the primary distinction between dictatorships and free 
democratic governements is that in a democracy government has a hard time 
collecting information about the people and the people find it easy to see 
what government is doing.  Further, in a dictatorship government spies on the 
people but the people have difficulty discovering what government is doing. 
The Bush II Administration is by far the most secretive in all US history, far 
worse than Nixon.  Even the Congress is unable to get information on Bush's 
lawbreaking.

- Amendment V
"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, 
unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising 
in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time 
of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense 
to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any 
criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, 
liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property 
be taken for public use, without just compensation."

The Bush Administration has taken foreign nationals prisoner, transported them 
to American soil and held them for years without benefit of legal counsel or 
opportunity to have charges read to them.  Furthermore, the Bush 
administration has tortured hundreds, possibly thousands of prisoners --  
violating international law and every sense of decency.  In the process, this 
Administration has virtually guaranteed that sooner or later we will face a 
terrorist attack that will kill millions of Americans.

- Amendment VI
"In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy 
and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the 
crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously 
ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the 
accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have 
compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the 
assistance of counsel for his defense."

See comments regarding Amendment V above.

- Amendment VII
"In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty 
dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a 
jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than 
according to the rules of the common law."

This one he seems to have left intact.  I guess he missed.

- Amendment VIII
"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel 
and unusual punishments inflicted."

See Amendment V above.

- Amendment XII
"The electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for 
President and Vice-President...."

In 2000 Bush stole the election.  The people elected Gore.

-- 

Regards,
Robert L Bass

==============================>
Bass Home Electronics
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota � Florida � 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
Sales & Tech Support 941-925-8650
Customer Service 941-870-2310
Fax 941-870-3252
==============================> 

"Joe" wrote:
>
> There is no constitutional right to break the law.  can we see who is doing 
> illegal stuff.  alarman and Bass don't want uncle sam to know what they are 
> texting.  wonder why?

Heh, heh, heh.  I don't use text messaging services.

-- 

Regards,
Robert L Bass

==============================>
Bass Home Electronics
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota � Florida � 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
Sales & Tech Support 941-925-8650
Customer Service 941-870-2310
Fax 941-870-3252
==============================> 

Robert L Bass wrote:

> Correction: It's that attitude that has led to the gradual erosion of 
> our constitutional right under the Bush administration.  A few regular 
> ASA posters support what Bush is doing because they foolishly believe 
> he's trying to fight terrorists.  In fact, he and his cronies are in it 
> for power and money and nothing else.  Meanwhile this administration has 
> done absolutely nothing of value to protect our nation.  Instead, they 
> have done everything possible to enrage these nut-cases.  When Al Qaida 
> or some other bunch of loonies finally does get their hands on a nuclear 
> bomb and sets it off in one of our ports, people like that will march us 
> into a dictatorship and think they've done a good thing.

as long as GW is the 'tater.:)

Joe wrote:
> alarman wrote:
>> Joe wrote:
>>> they can look at all the text messages of mine they want to look at.
>>> since I'm not doing anything illegal, why would I care?
>>
>> It's that attitude that has led to the gradual erosion of our rights
>> under the constitution.
>>
> rights to do what?

Your rights under the fourth ammendment, in this case.

-- 
js

The voices in my head told me to clean my guns today.

"Joe" wrote:
>
> as long as GW is the 'tater.:)

He's a puppet.  His corporate sponsors pay up and Chaney pulls the strings.

-- 

Regards,
Robert L Bass

==============================>
Bass Home Electronics
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota � Florida � 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
Sales & Tech Support 941-925-8650
Customer Service 941-870-2310
Fax 941-870-3252
==============================> 

Oh I thought this was an "I've fallen and can't get up" thread

<Pil...@dea.gov> wrote in message 
news:It6...@news.dea.gov...
> Law enforcement is now intercepting text messages,
> as proven by Operation Sudden Fall in San Diego.
>
> http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/states/newsrel/sd050608.html
> http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/education/20080506-1338-bn06sdsu2.html
>
> Don't let your personal SMS/text messages fall into
> the wrong hands.  Encrypt your messages with one
> of these:
>
>   http://www.CryptoSMS.org
>   http://www.CryptoSMS.com
>   http://www.FortressMail.net/fortress_sms.htm
>   http://www.Cop2p.com/encrypted_sms.html
>
> Be Safe, Be Encrypted, Fuck the Police!!
>
> --
> As maybe as Marla deserts, you can belong the repetition much more 
> shrilly. 

"Joe" <spa...@spams.pam> wrote in message 
news:B9kVj.60960$%15....@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>>
> There is no constitutional right to break the law.  can we see who is 
> doing illegal stuff.  alarman and Bass don't want uncle sam to know what 
> they are texting.  wonder why?

alarman is nothing but trouble, you can tell it in his eyes 

"Robert L Bass" <Rob...@verizon.net> wrote in message 
news:zCoVj.1885$T1.1638@trnddc01...
> "Joe" wrote:
>>
>> as long as GW is the 'tater.:)
>
> He's a puppet.  His corporate sponsors pay up and Chaney pulls the 
> strings.
>
> -- 
>
> Regards,
> Robert L Bass

It helps when you correctly spell the name of the guy who supposedly pulls 
the strings 

Joe wrote:
> There is no constitutional right to break the law.

What an idiotic statement that is. Do you think you're being clever?

There is a constitutional right to be free of unreasonable search and 
seizure.

>can we see who is doing illegal stuff.  alarman and Bass don't want uncle 
>sam to know
> what they are texting.  wonder why?

Well, in my case, it's because it's none of the government's business. And 
without a warrant based on probable cause, signed by a judge, they have no 
right. Back to school for you, or are you one of those canadian schmucks who 
has laid down and spread your legs for the government?
-- 
js

The voices in my head told me to clean my guns today.

"Mark Leuck" wrote:
> 
>> ... Chaney pulls the strings.
> 
> It helps when you correctly spell the name of the guy who supposedly pulls 
> the strings 

Doh!  :^)

>When Al Qaida 
>> or some other bunch of loonies finally does get their hands on a nuclear 
>> bomb and sets it off in one of our ports, people like that will march us 
>> into a dictatorship and think they've done a good thing.
>
>as long as GW is the 'tater.:)

As in, dick-tater?  No question he's a dick.  As to the 'tater part, I
think the potatos of the world will take offense at the comparison.

alarman wrote:
  you're being clever

thank u

> 
> There is a constitutional right to be free of unreasonable search and 
> seizure.

nothing unreasonable about reading text messages of criminals.

> Well, in my case, it's because it's none of the government's business. And 
> without a warrant based on probable cause, signed by a judge, they have no 
> right. Back to school for you, or are you one of those canadian schmucks who 
> has laid down and spread your legs for the government?

if you think u have privacy in your electronic communications you are 
just being naive. besides if it comes down to stopping San Fran from 
being blown up by a nuke or reading bass text messages I .... oh never mind.

Joe wrote:
> alarman wrote:
>  you're being clever
>
> thank u
>
>>
>> There is a constitutional right to be free of unreasonable search and
>> seizure.
>
> nothing unreasonable about reading text messages of criminals.
>
>> Well, in my case, it's because it's none of the government's
>> business. And without a warrant based on probable cause, signed by a
>> judge, they have no right. Back to school for you, or are you one of
>> those canadian schmucks who has laid down and spread your legs for
>> the government?
>
> if you think u have privacy in your electronic communications you are
> just being naive. besides if it comes down to stopping San Fran from
> being blown up by a nuke or reading bass text messages I .... oh
> never mind.

Eye on the ball, joe.

Whether or not the government intercepts my private communications is beside 
the point I was making; that it's because of the cavalier attitudes of 
people like you, with regard to the sanctity of the constitution, which has 
led to the erosion of our rights.

That said, I could actually live without San Francisco.

-- 
js

The voices in my head told me to clean my guns today.