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alt.ascii-art · 18 messages · 3 May 2003 - 27 May 2003
On 2003-05-03, 
 nzogn <nzo...@despammed.com> wrote:
> Anyone can tell me where can I find some web sites entirely built with
> ascii art instead of usual buttons, images, etc...?

These might help:

<http://www.asciipr0n.com/>
<http://asciipr0n.com/fp/>
<http://www.tsd-ltd.demon.co.uk/ascii-art.htm>

and also the links in Q20 of the FAQ.

ObAscii: 
A version of a penguin that I see in people's sigs. 

     /\
    |  O= 
   / / |
   V _/


-- 
Mark Hill <apr...@linuxmail.org>

Annie Ascii <ann...@oal.com> ASCII art 3 May 2003 04:42 · permalink · report
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On 2003-05-03 nzo...@despammed.com (nzogn) said:

   > Anyone can tell me where can I find some web sites entirely built
   > with ascii art instead of usual buttons, images, etc...?
   >
   > I would like to build my own site like this, but I'm a
   > really ascii-newbie and I need some inspiration! ;)

http://www.ascii-art.de
http://www.asciipr0n.com

By the way, nothing -FORCES- you to use images, "radio
buttons," etc. on a web site.  A web site can be 100
per cent text, if you want it to be. In fact, an all-
text web site is a lot easier to design.

Just learn some HTML code, and write your own pages
with a text editor. Don't use those crappy "page
designer" programs; they suck.

Do a Google search (www.google.com) on "HTML tutorial."
You'll find lots of information.

One of the problems with an ASCII web site is that the
majority of people who visit the site will be using
WinDoze, Loonix, Mac X-crement, or some other kind of
gooey-based operating system.

And they'll be using a graphical browser which defaults
to a proportional font.

When ASCII art is rendered in a proportional font, it
looks like crap.

Even specifying the font type in your HTML code is no
guarantee that an ASCII site will render properly in
a graphical browser. Even the "Courier" font used by
some browsers is proportional.
                                             _____  
I once put up a web site which queried      (((   `\
what type of browser the caller was         _ _`\   )
using. If the browser wasn't a text-        (^  )   )
based browser, like LYNX or YAN, I           ~-(     )
refused them access. Hehehe!                 _'((,,,)))
                                          ,-' \_/    `\
                            - Annie      (          ,  |
                                          `-.-'`-.-'/|_|
                                             \     / | |
                                              =()=: / ,' aa

ObASCII:

Do you think this bikini makes my hips look wide?
                   /                        _____
          .|||||.                          (((   `\
         |||||||||                         c c`\   )
        || .   . ||                        (^  )   )
        ||   '   ||                         O_(     )
       |||\  =  /|||                        _'((,,,)))
       |||||`-'|||||                     ,-'      / `\
       |.--'   `--.|                    ( `\_(_./'\_  |
       / |       | \                     `-.-^-..-'/| |
      / ( `-.v.-' ) \                       \     / | |
     /  /`--/ \--'\  \                       ;.  ( / ,'
    / /' |   ,   | `\  \                    /.__.-\ '
  / /'  /-..___..-\  `\ \                  :"-./--")
 (w/)  |-._     _.-|  (\w)                 :  /    ' 
        \  "-.-"  /                        : /   ,'
         \   |   /                         `/  .'
          ( )|( )                          (  (
          /  |  \                           \  \
         |   |   |                           \  )
          \  |  /                            )\ (
           ) | (  VK/aa                    _/`_\ \
          mmo^omm                         `"  _/ _) aa
                                             `"




  Ummmmm...you look just fine, Ronnie. Don't worry about it.
                                            _____   /
          .|||||.      Yeah. That's        (((   `\
         |||||||||     what I thought,     _ _`\   )
        || 6   6 ||    too!                (^  )   )
        ||   '   ||    /                    ~-(     )
       |||\ `-' /|||                        _'((,,,)))
       |||||`-'|||||                     ,-'      / `\
       |.--'   `--.|                    ( `\_(_./'\_  |
       / |       | \                     `-.-^-..-'/| |
      / ( `-.v.-' ) \                       \     / | |
     (  /`--/ \--'\  )                       ;.  ( / ,'
      \ \|   ,   |/ /                       /.__.-\ '
       )/-..___..-\(                       :"-./--")
       |-._     _.-|                       :  /    ' 
        \  "-.-"  /                        : /   ,'
         \   |   /                         `/  .'
          ( )|( )                          (  (
          /  |  \                           \  \
         |   |   |                           \  )
          \  |  /                            )\ (
           ) | (  VK/aa                    _/`_\ \
          mmo^omm                         `"  _/ _) aa
                                             `"




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Markus Möbs <gas...@tilemannschule.de> ASCII art 3 May 2003 09:23 · permalink · report
Annie Ascii wrote:
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> 
> 
> On 2003-05-03 nzo...@despammed.com (nzogn) said:
> 
>    > Anyone can tell me where can I find some web sites entirely built
>    > with ascii art instead of usual buttons, images, etc...?
>    >
>    > I would like to build my own site like this, but I'm a
>    > really ascii-newbie and I need some inspiration! ;)
> 
[a lot of extremely important content]
> 
> Just learn some HTML code, and write your own pages
> with a text editor. Don't use those crappy "page
> designer" programs; they suck.
> 
> Do a Google search (www.google.com) on "HTML tutorial."
> You'll find lots of information.
> 
> One of the problems with an ASCII web site is that the
> majority of people who visit the site will be using
> WinDoze, Loonix, Mac X-crement, or some other kind of
> gooey-based operating system.
> 
> And they'll be using a graphical browser which defaults
> to a proportional font.
> 
> When ASCII art is rendered in a proportional font, it
> looks like crap.
> 
> Even specifying the font type in your HTML code is no
> guarantee that an ASCII site will render properly in
> a graphical browser. Even the "Courier" font used by
> some browsers is proportional.
[some extremely important content]

Hey, according to the w3c you can be sure that the font will be of fixed-width 
if you use something like <body style="font-family: monospace;">. If somebody 
has designed a browser that does not respect this standard then anybody who uses 
this piece of software does certainly not deserve to be able to view your webside...

I agree: do NOT use anything like M$ Frontpage... Even real _good_ homepage 
designer software (is this thing called 'dreamweaver'?) is not meant to be used 
to build a pure ascii-art homepage. And another tip: I'd rather not use colours 
apart from b/w and w/b (in fact grey on black) in an ascii-art homepage for 
several reasons:
* it looks somewhat cheap and filthy (at least I feel)
* it is _hard_ to edit since you do not really see your picture anymore through 
all the tags...
* is it ascii-art when it's coloured?

Oh one more thing comes to my mind: have htmltidy or something similar to clean 
up your html and be extremely sure to substitute all <s and >s with the 
appropriate &thingy...

obascii (i'm a bit out of shape):

     /|
  .-'  '-=\  hmm... is it the salmon of doubt?
<*_ _.-'    or is it not the salmon of doubt?
    "


-- 
                                                    ._.-._.-._.-.
     .--------------------.                                      )
  )  :------++----+-------:   The way to keep it interesting    (
(   |      ||    |  [mm] |   these days is to do it without     )
  )  |_    .|'    '.     _|   oxygen  or in  your underpants    (
(   ( '-.//        \ .-' )   or something.                      )
  )  ',   '.        .'   ,'                 -- Douglas Adams    (
(     '-.  )  ::  (  .-'                                        )
  )       '-:  ::  :-'             GAST(at)tilemannschule.de    (
(           '----'
'._.-._.-._.-.

Harry Mason <spa...@no.spam> ASCII art 3 May 2003 11:01 · permalink · report
gas...@tilemannschule.de wrote:
[snip]
> obascii (i'm a bit out of shape):
> 
>      /|
>   .-'  '-=\  hmm... is it the salmon of doubt?
>  <*_ _.-'    or is it not the salmon of doubt?
>     "
> -- 
>                                                    ._.-._.-._.-.
>     .--------------------.                                      )
>  )  :------++----+-------:   The way to keep it interesting    (
> (   |      ||    |  [mm] |   these days is to do it without     )
>  )  |_    .|'    '.     _|   oxygen  or in  your underpants    (
> (   ( '-.//        \ .-' )   or something.                      )
>  )  ',   '.        .'   ,'                 -- Douglas Adams    (
> (     '-.  )  ::  (  .-'                                        )
>  )       '-:  ::  :-'             GAST(at)tilemannschule.de    (
> (           '----'
> '._.-._.-._.-.

                                            ,-.             __
    _________________                     ,'   `---.___.---'  `.
  ,'                |                   ,'   ,-                 `-._
 < <--- MT. EVEREST |                 ,'    /                       \
  `.________________|              ,\/     /                        \\
           |                   )`._)>)     |                         \\
           |                   `>,'    _   \                  /       |\
           |                     )      \   |   |            |        |\\
           |            .   ,   /        \  |    `.          |        | ))
           |            \`. \`-'          )-|      `.        |        /((
                         \ `-`  .a`     _/ ;\ _     )`-.___.--\      /  `'
                          `._         ,'    \`j`.__/        \  `.    \
                            / ,    ,'       _)\   /`        _) ( \   /
                            \__   /        /nn_) (         /nn__\_) (
                              `--'           /nn__\             /nn__\
                                                            hjw

A great man. Deeply missed.

       _,------._     _,------._       
    ,-'          `---'          `-.    
  ,'                               `.  
 /           )\/(   ) (              \ 
|          /(())))(( ) )/(/(          |
|       ) )( WE APOLOGISE ) )((       |
|      ( FOR THE INCONVENIENCE )      |
 \                                   / 
  `.                               ,'  
    `-._        _,---._        _,-'    
     hjm`------'       `------'        

-- 
Harry Mason ("hjm200.ecs@soton@ac@uk" =~ tr/@./.@/)

Harry Mason wrote 

>                          ,-.             __
>                        ,'   `---.___.---'  `.
>                      ,'   ,-                 `-._
>                    ,'    /                       \
>                 ,\/     /                        \\
>             )`._)>)     |                         \\
>             `>,'    _   \                  /       |\
>               )      \   |   |            |        |\\
>      .   ,   /        \  |    `.          |        | ))
>      \`. \`-'          )-|      `.        |        /((
>       \ `-`  .a`     _/ ;\ _     )`-.___.--\      /  `'
>        `._         ,'    \`j`.__/        \  `.    \
>          / ,    ,'       _)\   /`        _) ( \   /
>          \__   /        /nn_) (         /nn__\_) (
>            `--'           /nn__\             /nn__\
>                                                             hjw
> 

A lot heavier than butterflies - but as beautiful!
The (sad) mouth, the perfect eye, the fu-nn-y feet ...
Thanks.

R@ineR

Wilu <wil...@ascii.art.pl> ASCII art 3 May 2003 12:51 · permalink · report
On Sat, 3 May 2003 02:44:38 +0200, nzo...@despammed.com (nzogn) wrote:

>Anyone can tell me where can I find some web sites entirely built with
>ascii art instead of usual buttons, images, etc...?
>
>I would like to build my own site like this, but I'm a really
>ascii-newbie and I need some inspiration! ;)


www.asciipr0n.com/bug
www.republika.pl/strefa_robacza
www.stforek.boo.pl
www.ascii.art.pl
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wilu (at) ascii.art.pl www.ascii.art.pl gg#485029       

Rainer Rosenthal wrote:
> Harry Mason wrote 
> 
>>                          ,-.             __
>>                        ,'   `---.___.---'  `.
>>                      ,'   ,-                 `-._
>>                    ,'    /                       \
>>                 ,\/     /                        \\
>>             )`._)>)     |                         \\
>>             `>,'    _   \                  /       |\
>>               )      \   |   |            |        |\\
>>      .   ,   /        \  |    `.          |        | ))
>>      \`. \`-'          )-|      `.        |        /((
>>       \ `-`  .a`     _/ ;\ _     )`-.___.--\      /  `'
>>        `._         ,'    \`j`.__/        \  `.    \
>>          / ,    ,'       _)\   /`        _) ( \   /
>>          \__   /        /nn_) (         /nn__\_) (
>>            `--'           /nn__\             /nn__\
>>                                                             hjw
>> 
> 
> A lot heavier than butterflies - but as beautiful!
> The (sad) mouth, the perfect eye, the fu-nn-y feet ...
> Thanks.

Don't thank me, thank hjw. Her animal artwork is always excellent.

-- 
Harry Mason ("hjm200.ecs@soton@ac@uk" =~ tr/@./.@/)

Arthur J. O'Dwyer <aj...@andrew.cmu.edu> ASCII art 3 May 2003 15:28 · permalink · report
On Sat, 3 May 2003, Harry Mason wrote:
>
> A great man. Deeply missed.
>
>        _,------._     _,------._
>     ,-'          `---'          `-.
>   ,'                               `.
>  /           )\/(   ) (              \
> |          /(())))(( ) )/(/(          |
> |       ) )( WE APOLOGISE ) )((       |
> |      ( FOR THE INCONVENIENCE )      |
>  \                                   /
>   `.                               ,'
>     `-._        _,---._        _,-'
>      hjm`------'       `------'
>

Improbably enough, in my copy it's spelled with a 'z'.
Is that just an American printing, or what?

-Arthur

ObAscii: ugly little scooter and what was meant
to be an orthopedic sandal but ended up looking
more like the top bit of a pot of exasperated
petunias:

        _
       --|
         |
  .------!.      ,,\\  /,
 `-------')      ======='
  o'     O

"nzogn" <nzo...@despammed.com> wrote in message news:1fu...@despammed.com...

<snip>

> I would like to build my own site like this, but I'm a really
> ascii-newbie and I need some inspiration! ;)

Hi, nzogn!
I don't know your real age, but I hope you are enough adult.
If you need some inspiration, you can get it from Tran's website.
http://www.asciiartfarts.com/
There holds a lot of great ascii-picture. You can watch various artists' picture
in that site. It holds really various fine picture.
From earlier era to recent era, you can surf instantly.
You can learn how to express curve lines, materials, etc....
Some words are funny too.Though most has bad taste.

Check it as your own risk! ;-)


kirara

Harry Mason <spa...@no.spam> ASCII art 6 May 2003 11:52 · permalink · report
kirara wrote:
> "nzogn" <nzo...@despammed.com> wrote:
>> I would like to build my own site like this, but I'm a really ascii-newbie
>> and I need some inspiration! ;)
> 
> Hi, nzogn! I don't know your real age, but I hope you are enough adult. If
> you need some inspiration, you can get it from Tran's website.
> http://www.asciiartfarts.com/ There holds a lot of great ascii-picture. You
> can watch various artists' picture in that site. It holds really various fine
> picture.

Personally I'd recommend Andreas Freise's ASCII-art dictionary
http://www.ascii-art.de/ instead. It has most of Tran's source pictures
in unadulterated form, and it's indexed if you want a picture of something
specific.

ObASCII:
       .___,   
    ___('v')___
    `"-\._./-"'
hjm     ^ ^    
               
         _,    
       -(_'>   

-- 
Harry Mason ("hjm200.ecs@soton@ac@uk" =~ tr/@./.@/)

"Harry Mason" <spa...@no.spam> wrote in message 

> Personally I'd recommend Andreas Freise's ASCII-art dictionary
> http://www.ascii-art.de/ instead. It has most of Tran's source pictures
> in unadulterated form, and it's indexed if you want a picture of something
> specific.

I saw the site you recommended. It was really great!
I repect Andreas, because I think that she spend so much time
and love and patience and care in the site.

> 
> ObASCII:
>        .___,   
>     ___('v')___
>     `"-\._./-"'
> hjm     ^ ^    
>                
>          _,    
>        -(_'>   

Cute!

Veronica Karlsson <v...@hotbrev.com> ASCII art 17 May 2003 09:28 · permalink · report
nzogn wrote:
> 
> Anyone can tell me where can I find some web sites entirely built with
> ascii art instead of usual buttons, images, etc...?

http://www.gtcom.net/~krogg/ascii/


-- 
  #####       c    ^                       OO        /\\\\
#####  |     /|\    `^^^^^^^%--           '||`      |  \\\\
####-[.]\    / \      "   "  \ ha ha ha    dd      /[.]-\\\|
###   _|                                            |_   \\|
###  (_  http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/cgi/asciichat/  _)}  ==
 \    /        A S C I I  A R T  C H A T             #    ||\

Veronica Karlsson <v...@hotbrev.com> ASCII art 17 May 2003 09:54 · permalink · report
*Ooooh! Look! Fresh troll bait!*

(OK, maybe not quite so fresh, but I can live with that)

*takes BIG bite!*


=?UTF-8?B?TWFya3VzIE3DtmJz?= wrote:
> Annie Ascii wrote:
> > Just learn some HTML code, and write your own pages
> > with a text editor. Don't use those crappy "page
> > designer" programs; they suck.

I agree.

> > Do a Google search (www.google.com) on "HTML tutorial."
> > You'll find lots of information.

Good idea too.

> > One of the problems with an ASCII web site is that the
> > majority of people who visit the site will be using
> > WinDoze, Loonix, Mac X-crement, or some other kind of
> > gooey-based operating system.

Doesn't matter. ASCII on web pages can show up just fine on those too,
if you do it right.

> > And they'll be using a graphical browser which defaults
> > to a proportional font.

Um, no. If this is your experience then you are not using the right
tags.

> > When ASCII art is rendered in a proportional font, it
> > looks like crap.

Yes.

> > Even specifying the font type in your HTML code is no
> > guarantee that an ASCII site will render properly in
> > a graphical browser.

Specifying a font type in your HTML code is a guarantee that an ascii
site will NOT render properly in some graphical browsers.

> > Even the "Courier" font used by
> > some browsers is proportional.

AFAIK Courier is Courier, period. Some people might not have a font
called "Courier". Specifying a font is a bad idea.

> Hey, according to the w3c you can be sure that the font will be of fixed-width
> if you use something like <body style="font-family: monospace;">.

No. Rather the opposite. CSS ("Stylesheets") is by definition only a
*suggestion* which a browser can choose to ignore. Specifying a font
with CSS that way is also a guarantee that some people will end up with
a different font.

> If somebody
> has designed a browser that does not respect this standard then anybody who uses
> this piece of software does certainly not deserve to be able to view your webside...

If somebody has designed a web site that does not respect the user's
right to turn CSS off then anybody who writes web pages that don't show
up right doesn't deserve to have people reading his pages...


To get ascii art to show up right in an html document you need to
understand what the tags mean:


* <tt>   means "use a monospaced font". This will make
         the font right, but will treat the text the
         same way as other text (i.e. it will remove
         "extra" spaces and wrap the text).

* <pre>  means "use a monospaced fonts and respect my
         formatting". It will preserve your spaces and
         newlines. This is what you should use for ascii
         art.

         In both <tt> and <pre> the font used will be *a*
         monospaced font, but it doesn't say which one.
         It will simply use the one the browser is set to
         use (i.e. the reader's favourite).

* <font> means "use this font". It fails to work when the
         reader's computer doesn't have that font or if
         the browser is set to ignore fonts.

* style  means "I think this font is pretty and I suggest
         that you use it but I won't be offended if you
         choose some other font or ignore this suggestion
         completely". It's a very humble *suggestion* and
         only to be used for non-critical stuff (like
         colours on an ascii picture). Not suitable for
         *specifying* anything.

Then you also need to "encode" all the  &  characters and  <  characters
(or the browser may think that they are "active html code" instead of
content).


-- 
  #####       c    ^                       OO        /\\\\
#####  |     /|\    `^^^^^^^%--           '||`      |  \\\\
####-[.]\    / \      "   "  \ ha ha ha    dd      /[.]-\\\|
###   _|                                            |_   \\|
###  (_  http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/cgi/asciichat/  _)}  ==
 \    /        A S C I I  A R T  C H A T             #    ||\

Mark Hill <mar...@yahoo.co.uk> ASCII art 27 May 2003 00:48 · permalink · report
On 2003-05-17, 
 Veronica Karlsson <v...@hotbrev.com> wrote:
>
> http://www.gtcom.net/~krogg/ascii/

Great site. I like the drunks and the asses a lot. 

ObAscii: (An owl)

     =======
     | o o |
     |  |  |
     =======
	=========
	|       |
	|  / \  | 
	| /   \ |
	|/_____\|
	 /|\ /|\  mh

-- 
Mark Hill <mar...@yahoo.co.uk>

Mark Hill <mar...@yahoo.co.uk> ASCII art 27 May 2003 00:52 · permalink · report
On 2003-05-27, 
 Mark Hill <mar...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> ObAscii: (An owl)
>
>      =======
>      | o o |
>      |  |  |
>      =======
> 	=========
> 	|       |
> 	|  / \  | 
> 	| /   \ |
> 	|/_____\|
> 	 /|\ /|\  mh
>

Oops. I think there were stray tabs. I'll try again:

ObAscii: (An owl)

     =======
     | o o |
     |  |  |
     =======
    =========
    |       |
    |  / \  | 
    | /   \ |
    |/_____\|
     /|\ /|\  mh




-- 
Mark Hill <mar...@yahoo.co.uk>

Faux_Pseudo <Fau...@yahoo.comERCIAL> ASCII art 27 May 2003 08:40 · permalink · report
 _.--- Mark Hill spoke in alt.ascii-art --------._ 
> On 2003-05-27, 
>  Mark Hill <mar...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> ObAscii: (An owl)
>>
>>      =======
>>      | o o |
>>      |  |  |
>>      =======
>> 	=========
>> 	|       |
> Oops. I think there were stray tabs. I'll try again:
> 

ha. I thought that was intentional.  After living with an owl outside
my window once I got real used to them haveing crooked heads.


'---...____ Faux_Pseudo ________________...---~~~

-- 
 .-'))  http://asciipr0n.com/fp   ('-.  | The man who can't spell a word
' ..-  .:" )    Updated    ( ":.  -.. ' | more than one way lacks 
 ((,,_;'.;'     05 / 06     ';. ';_,,)) | creativity.
       ((_.;'*Faux_Pseudo*':._))        | -- W.C. Fields

BoD <Bo...@JRAF.org> 27 May 2003 13:43 · permalink · report
Mark Hill wrote:

> ObAscii: (An owl)
>
>      =======
>      | o o |
>      |  |  |
>      =======
>     =========
>     |       |
>     |  / \  |
>     | /   \ |
>     |/_____\|
>      /|\ /|\  mh


ObAscii: a sheep
+---+
|   |
+---+
(the sheep is in the box)

On 2003-05-27, 
 Faux_Pseudo <Fau...@yahoo.comERCIAL> wrote:
>  _.--- Mark Hill spoke in alt.ascii-art --------._ 
>> On 2003-05-27, 
>>>
>>> ObAscii: (An owl)
>>>
>>>      =======
>>>      | o o |
>>>      |  |  |
>>>      =======
>>> 	=========
>>> 	|       |
>
> ha. I thought that was intentional.  After living with an owl outside
> my window once I got real used to them haveing crooked heads.

heh. They're strange things. 

The mistake did give me an idea of making an animation of the owl's head 
going from side to side. Mmm, maybe when I have some free time...

-- 
Mark Hill <mar...@yahoo.co.uk>
panic("Foooooooood fight!");
    -- In the kernel source aha1542.c, after detecting a bad segment 
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