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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 11 Dec 2002.
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Paschimottanasana

Paschimottanasana

alt.ascii-art · 21 messages · 11 Dec 2002 - 15 Dec 2002
Laurence Muscat <mus...@adinet.com.uy> ASCII art 11 Dec 2002 15:50 · permalink
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Well, it is a famous yoga posture. The yoga exercises are called "asanas".
Paschimottanasana is an exercise that flexibilizes the backbone. The feet
touch the back of the head. Requires years of practice.

Greetings, Laurence (Uruguay, South America).

On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 23:26:21 +0000, Laurence Muscat wrote:

> Well, it is a famous yoga posture. The yoga exercises are called "asanas".
> Paschimottanasana is an exercise that flexibilizes the backbone. The feet
> touch the back of the head. Requires years of practice.

Hey, that's wrong. Google for 'paschimottanasana' - it's completely
different.

http://www.theyogashop.co.uk/nonshop/postures/Paschimottanasana.html

Laurence Muscat <mus...@adinet.com.uy> ASCII art 12 Dec 2002 12:24 · permalink
Ok, thank you, lament, the correct name is Ekapada Rajapokatasana mmm... 
   wait a minute, let search in Google...
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~~(,, '> ...snif...snif...snif...
Ies, that's right...
http://home.attbi.com/~peentzdubble/Pix/Peentz2.html
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lament escribi�:
> On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 23:26:21 +0000, Laurence Muscat wrote:

Veronica Karlsson <v...@hotbrev.com> ASCII art 12 Dec 2002 12:51 · permalink
Laurence Muscat wrote:
<snip>
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>                                                          `'PPPP     lm

Why put your initials on a raw conversion?

diddle:


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Nobody has teached me that it is ilegal in Ascii Art.
A Raw conversion means work too, sometimes, a lot of work.
Laurence.


Veronica Karlsson escribi�:
> Laurence Muscat wrote:
> <snip>
> 
>>                                `               `` ?`.TMMMMMMMM@'   `
>>                                                         `'PPPP     lm
> 
> 
> Why put your initials on a raw conversion?
> 
> diddle:

Laurence Muscat <mus...@adinet.com.uy> ASCII art 12 Dec 2002 16:07 · permalink
>>A Raw conversion means work too, sometimes, a lot of work.
> 
> Yeah, by the person who made the converter.
> 
Jmmmmm... I think you need something like this:

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Veronica Karlsson <v...@hotbrev.com> ASCII art 12 Dec 2002 16:11 · permalink
Laurence Muscat wrote:
> Veronica Karlsson escribi�:
> > Laurence Muscat wrote:
> >>                                `               `` ?`.TMMMMMMMM@'   `
> >>                                                         `'PPPP     lm
> >
> > Why put your initials on a raw conversion?
> 
> Nobody has teached me that it is ilegal in Ascii Art.

Who said anything about illegal? I just think it's kind of pointless
since you didn't actually do any work except tell your computer to let a
program look at a specific photo.

> A Raw conversion means work too, sometimes, a lot of work.

Yeah, by the person who made the converter.


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I failed miserably to keep a straight face when I read that
on Thu, 12 Dec 2002 12:51:30 +0000, Veronica Karlsson wrote:
> diddle:

*snip diddle*

Ah, *now* I see what posture this is.

Leon (aka Oliphaunt)
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the computer industry. Not that that tells us very much, of 
course - the computer industry didn't even foresee that the 
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[David Reis]:
>
>   - smoothed out several corners

uh, quite the opposite IMHO.

>   - removed the question marks from the bottom of the left
>     foot - to ... well... looked strange :) I think it depends
>     on how you watch the pic : if you "blur" your eyes, the
>     "?"s will appear "rounder" and you wont see the dots, if
>     you look at it normally the dot style looks IMHO better as
>     dots are smaller.

this must be a case of using different fonts.  I use Lucida
Typewriter, where the dot of the question mark is offset slightly to
the right.  this fits Veronica's use very well.

>   - made left foot a bit longer, and took this "absolutely
>     straight" impression from the right one, added ankles

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         me                    David                  Veronica

I went back to the original, elongated it and reduced the shading.  it
is supposed to be a sock or ballet shoe, not barefoot.  I think.

>   I still dont like the area where the hand is supposed to
>   grab the foot, still loks kinda strange.

I like the longer fingers of Veronica.  so there :-)


Kjetil T.

ABCGi <abc...@codeYOINKmonkey.com.au> ASCII art 13 Dec 2002 02:45 · permalink
Laurence Muscat <mus...@adinet.com.uy> wrote in news:3DF8B45F.2080906
@adinet.com.uy:

>                     ,--.
>                    (.:.))
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>               , ','.' : '
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>         (_)/._.-'   )__\   gnv
>          (_\
> 

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|           !!!!                            |
|                                           |
|        '"""""""""'     "It was reported   |
|        "" ~   ~ ""      today that a      |
|        e  O   O  a      *woman* had a     |
|         .   U   .       strong opinion!"  |
|          .---==.    +&                    |
|           .....   +++&                    |
|        +++#####++++                       |
|        +++#####+++                        |
|        +++#####                           |
|-------------------------------------------|

---------------------------------------------
|                                           |
|                                           |
|        '"""""""""'     "Clearly, she must |
|        "" `   ` ""      be a dyke, or     |
|        e  o   o  a      need sex, or      |
|         .   U   .       perhaps even      |
|          .--==-.        insane!"          |
|           .....                           |
|        +++#####++++                       |
|       +++ #####+++++  +&                  |
|      +++  #####   ++++&                   |
|-------------------------------------------|

                                   * DISCLAIMER: I suck at ASCII art.

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 Stretched out hand of tolerance,     But two things stand like stone,
 All the shining gifts,               Kindness in another's trouble,  
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Bill Taylor <mat...@math.canterbury.ac.nz> ASCII art 13 Dec 2002 04:03 · permalink
> Jmmmmm... I think you need something like this:

Very nice!   But allow me my usual pretty girl diddling...

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         (_\

I'm sure she wouldn't object to further diddling still.

Well, not at the moment anyway...

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Bill Taylor                    W.T...@math.canterbury.ac.nz
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Sex brought us together, but gender drove us apart.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Veronica Karlsson <v...@hotbrev.com> ASCII art 13 Dec 2002 06:50 · permalink
Kjetil Torgrim Homme wrote:
> [David Reis]:
> >   - removed the question marks from the bottom of the left
> >     foot - to ... well... looked strange :) I think it depends
> >     on how you watch the pic : if you "blur" your eyes, the
> >     "?"s will appear "rounder" and you wont see the dots, if
> >     you look at it normally the dot style looks IMHO better as
> >     dots are smaller.
> 
> this must be a case of using different fonts.  I use Lucida
> Typewriter, where the dot of the question mark is offset slightly to
> the right.  this fits Veronica's use very well.

I usually use 'V' or 'Y' for this, but the original conversion had '?'
and I kept it as an experiment.

> I went back to the original, elongated it and reduced the shading.  it
> is supposed to be a sock or ballet shoe, not barefoot.  I think.

I thought he was barefoot (but yes, my version of that foot was a bit
clumsy and didn't match the rest of the body). Hands and feet are
difficult. Here's a recent hand I'm very pleased with:

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Veronica Karlsson <v...@hotbrev.com> ASCII art 13 Dec 2002 06:59 · permalink
ABCGi wrote:
>  ___________________________________________
> |           !!!!                            |
> |         .-'"""`-.                         |
> |        '"""""""""\     "It was reported   |
> |        "" ~   ~ ""      today that a      |
> |        e  O   O  a      *woman* had a     |
> |         \   U   /   ___ strong opinion!"  |
> |          \ --= /  .'+.-'                  |
> |         .-`---'-./++.'                    |
> |        /++#####+++/                       |
> |        |++#####++/                        |
> |        |++#####'                          |
> |________|++#####___________________________|
> 
>  ___________________________________________
> |                                           |
> |         .-'"""`-.                         |
> |        '"""""""""'     "Clearly, she must |
> |        "" `   ` ""      be a dyke, or     |
> |        e  o   o  a      need sex, or      |
> |         \   U   /       perhaps even      |
> |          \ -=- /        insane!"          |
> |         .-`---'-.                         |
> |        /++#####++\                        |
> |       /++/#####+++\ _.'\                  |
> |      /++/ ##### \++'++_/                  |
> |_____/++/__#####__\++/_____________________|

:-D

> 
>                                    * DISCLAIMER: I suck at ASCII art.

It looked fine (but I diddled it anyway).  :)


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On 12 Dez 2002 Veronica Karlsson wrote:
[...]
> 
> Why put your initials on a raw conversion?
[...]

Why bring up this narrow-minded discussion again? Testing?

a) I liked the conversion better than your diddle.
b) Photography is commonly thought of being a form of art 
   (well, a few pictures) even if the photogrpaher did not build
   the camera him-/herself.

Are we having the full amount-of-work versus idea-concept-intention
discussion again? Just wondering.

:)
Andreas

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"Andreas Freise" <ad...@mpq.mpg.de> skrev i meddelandet
 news:8de...@adfpc.amp.uni-hannover.de
> On 12 Dez 2002 Veronica Karlsson wrote:
> [...]
> >
> > Why put your initials on a raw conversion?
> [...]
>
> Why bring up this narrow-minded discussion again? Testing?
>
> a) I liked the conversion better than your diddle.
> b) Photography is commonly thought of being a form of art
>    (well, a few pictures) even if the photogrpaher did not build
>    the camera him-/herself.

Although I understand your point, I think your analogy is broken.
What is the converter's equivalent of the photographer's concept of
composition, for example?

While a photographer moves around in a 3D world and tries to capture
all the sights, emotions, smells and whatnot of the scene in a 2D
medium, the pixel->ASCII converter takes a picture and converts it to
another medium. It's more akin to a photographer who only takes photos
of old paintings, or a person who specializes in fiddling with the
settings of a photocopier.

> Are we having the full amount-of-work versus idea-concept-intention
> discussion again? Just wondering.

Is a discussion technically over if you haven't reached any conclusions?
I say we're _still_ having that discussion. :)

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On 13 Dez 2002 Joaquim G�ndara wrote:
[...]
>> b) Photography is commonly thought of being a form of art
>>    (well, a few pictures) even if the photogrpaher did not build
>>    the camera him-/herself.
> 
> Although I understand your point, I think your analogy is broken.
> What is the converter's equivalent of the photographer's concept of
> composition, for example?
> 
> While a photographer moves around in a 3D world and tries to capture
> all the sights, emotions, smells and whatnot of the scene in a 2D
> medium, the pixel->ASCII converter takes a picture and converts it to
> another medium. It's more akin to a photographer who only takes photos
> of old paintings, or a person who specializes in fiddling with the
> settings of a photocopier.

I should have known that "proof by example" never works. However,
my point was that is doesn't matter how much work is involved, not
that photographers don't work.

> Is a discussion technically over if you haven't reached any conclusions?
> I say we're _still_ having that discussion. :)

True. I just didn't like the troll-like way of bringing it up. 

:)
Andreas

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Veronica Karlsson <v...@hotbrev.com> ASCII art 14 Dec 2002 21:04 · permalink
Andreas Freise wrote:
> Why bring up this narrow-minded discussion again? Testing?

Um, no, to me the picture looked half-finished (or less) and I felt
inspired to diddle. I also don't see why the original poster's initials
belong on it and I mentioned that.

> b) Photography is commonly thought of being a form of art

People go on holiday. Some take pictures with their own cameras, some
buy postcards and send home. This guy "bought a postcard and then
claimed to be a photographer".

>    even if the photogrpaher did not build the camera him-/herself.

No, but he did "build" the picture with light, angles, making sure no
fingers were in front of the lens, making sure not to chop off people's
heads, etc. Even point-and-click photography requires some skill if you
want acceptable result.

> Are we having the full amount-of-work versus idea-concept-intention
> discussion again?

I don't mind people using different techniques to reach a good result,
and I don't mind them doing it fast (e.g. I just *love* Figlet...). This
particular conversion required no skill, no work *and* the result
sucked. It just looked lazy to me (all that fly shit in the background
for example).


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Veronica Karlsson <v...@hotbrev.com> wrote in 
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> ABCGi wrote:
>> |         .-'"""`-.                         |
>> |        '"""""""""\     "It was reported   |
>> |        "" ~   ~ ""      today that a      |
>> |        e  O   O  a      *woman* had a     |
>> |         \   U   /   ___ strong opinion!"  |
>> |          \ --= /  .'+.-'                  |
>> |         .-`---'-./++.'                    |
> It looked fine (but I diddled it anyway).  :)

I love the finger!

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"Loving kindness, warm hearts and a, "Life is mostly froth and bubble,
 Stretched out hand of tolerance,     But two things stand like stone,
 All the shining gifts,               Kindness in another's trouble,  
 That make peace on Earth." - tBW     And courage in your own." - ALG

Andreas Freise <ad...@mpq.mpg.de> ASCII art 15 Dec 2002 10:18 · permalink
On 14 Dez 2002 Veronica Karlsson wrote:
[...]
> Um, no, to me the picture looked half-finished (or less) and I felt
> inspired to diddle. I also don't see why the original poster's initials
> belong on it and I mentioned that.

Fair enough, but you did also remove the original initials in your
diddle which is more than "mentioned that" - at least when facing
a newbe.

[...]
> I don't mind people using different techniques to reach a good result,
> and I don't mind them doing it fast (e.g. I just *love* Figlet...). This
> particular conversion required no skill, no work *and* the result
> sucked. It just looked lazy to me (all that fly shit in the background
> for example).

I though so. My first reactions were "oh, what a nice fluffy greyscale"
when I saw the original and "gmrf, she stamped her line style over it
and it became boring" when I saw yours. Of course I might be the
only one who thinks that way but then I didn't turn it into a 
colourful HTML thing, saying "why put initials on a lame b/w 
diddle" and posted it with my initials. 

Ob-repost:

                ;`',
                `,  `,
                 ',   ;   ,,-""==..,
                  \    ','          \
          ,-""'-., ;    '    __.-="-.;
        ," ,,_    "V      _."
       ;,'   ''-,          "=--,_
              ,-''    _  _       `,
             /   ,.-+( )( )'--.,   ;
            ,'  /   | (_)  |    `\ ,
            ; ,/     `-.--'       ;
            !,'       | |
            V'     .-`  '--.
                  (_/\__  , \
                  L_____`    >
                    |`-----'\
                    |      \_)
                 ___|   .  (
                 \   `---._`_/\
                  /       /   |
                 <        )   \
                  |     ..     \
                 /   \ /  \     `-.
                /     \   /       /            bmw/
               /      /   \,     \              a:f
              `_.----'     \_____ \__
              /   \           L______]
              \___|



:)
Andreas

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Alien Eggman <ali...@yahoo.com> ASCII art 15 Dec 2002 16:54 · permalink
Andreas Freise <ad...@mpq.mpg.de> wrote in message news:<ltk...@adfpc.amp.uni-hannover.de>...
> On 14 Dez 2002 Veronica Karlsson wrote:
> [...]
                            <[SNIP]> 
> Ob-repost:
> 
>                 ;`',
>                 `,  `,
>                  ',   ;   ,,-""==..,
>                   \    ','          \
>           ,-""'-., ;    '    __.-="-.;
>         ," ,,_    "V      _."
>        ;,'   ''-,          "=--,_
>               ,-''    _  _       `,
>              /   ,.-+( )( )'--.,   ;
>             ,'  /   | (_)  |    `\ ,
>             ; ,/     `-.--'       ;
>             !,'       | |
>             V'     .-`  '--.
>                   (_/\__  , \
>                   L_____`    >
>                     |`-----'\
>                     |      \_)
>                  ___|   .  (
>                  \   `---._`_/\
>                   /       /   |
>                  <        )   \
>                   |     ..     \
>                  /   \ /  \     `-.
>                 /     \   /       /            bmw/
>                /      /   \,     \              a:f
>               `_.----'     \_____ \__
>               /   \           L______]
>               \___|
> 
> 
> 
> :)
> Andreas

Who is that?
and here is a diddle...

                ;`',
                `,  `,
                 ',   ;   ,,-""==..,
                  \    ','          \
          ,-""'-., ;    '    __.-="-.;
        ," ,,_    "V      _."    __
       ;,'   /"-,          "=--,//\\
            //,-''    _ _       `, \\
           ///   ,.-+() ()'--.,   ; \\
          //,'  /\\ |  _  | ///`\ ,\ \\
         // ; ,/\\\\ `-.-' ////  ;  \ \\
        // /!,' /^\\\ | | ////^\  \  \ \\
       // ( V'  (  .-`  '--./   )  )  ) \\
      ((   )  )  )(_/\__  , \  (  (   (  ))
       )) (  (  ( L_____`    >  )  )  ) ((
       ||  )  )  )  |`-----'\  (  (  (  ||
       || (  (  (   |      \_)  )  )  ) ||
       ||  )  )  )__|   .  (   (  (  (  ||
       || (  (  (\   `---._`_/\ )  )  ) ||
       ||  )  )  )/       /   |(  (  (  ||
       || (  (  (<        )   \ )  )  ) ||
       ||  )  )  )|     ..     \  (  (  ||
       || (  (  (/   \ /  \     `-.)  ) ||
       ||  )  ) /     \   /       /  (  ||     bmw/
       ||u(uu(u/      /   \,     \u)uu)u||      a:f/
              `_.----'     \_____ \__            Zot
              /   \           L______]
              \___|

I play a Pixie on a Mud, and thought HEY, that could be me...all it
needs is wings... (though not very pixie like).

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