update from lgbeard (RE: to Aidan Karley post)

Sorry for opening new subj... But I always have "Unable to retrieve
message" error (Could anybode help me to fix this problem?)

>New apdate from lgbeard on www.asciimator.net

_________________________________________Aidan Karley told:
>"Don't know what the code is meant to do, but the space for the 
>animation doesn't do anything to my browser. I've got JavaScript 
>enabled, and the only features disabled for it are hiding/ changing
the
>status bar, for which I can't conceive of a legitimate use." 

__________________________________________

Aidan! Thanks a lot for your replying!
So you don't even see this start image? But you can see just an empty
space (between the name of this ascii and bottom linksbar)? Am I
right?

       .-.
      / ,\\
      )/  \\.```````.
        .-.'         `.-.
       ((   /o\   /o\   ))
        `-` \_/   \_/ `-`
  _.-.-.-.__   (_) _.-.-.-._
 `.'-'-'-'-.\ '._./.'-'-'-'.'
     ,-.-. || ,-. ||  '.
    (_(_ ))|[( @ )]| ,-.-.
    <====._|| `-' ||(( _)_)
    : - |  ||.`"'.||_.====>
    | - :  \|: - ||/  : - |
    '.-,`   `| - :`   '.-,`
             : - |
             '.-,`     LGB
 

What browser do you use? Asciimator has been tested only for IE yet...
And I'd like very much to know about other browsers too... So, keep in
touch please!


P.S. For JavaScript programmers:
I used "document.all.IDTAG.innerText" function to paste the ascii
images inside <div></div> container... Does it work correctly with all
browsers or not? Also I used StyleSheet "position:absolute" parameter.

"karaboz" <t...@asciimator.net> wrote in message
news:326...@posting.google.com...
> Sorry for opening new subj... But I always have "Unable to retrieve
> message" error (Could anybode help me to fix this problem?)
>
> >New apdate from lgbeard on www.asciimator.net
>
> _________________________________________Aidan Karley told:
> >"Don't know what the code is meant to do, but the space for the
> >animation doesn't do anything to my browser. I've got JavaScript
> >enabled, and the only features disabled for it are hiding/ changing
> the
> >status bar, for which I can't conceive of a legitimate use."
>
> __________________________________________
>
> Aidan! Thanks a lot for your replying!
> So you don't even see this start image? But you can see just an empty
> space (between the name of this ascii and bottom linksbar)? Am I
> right?
>
>        .-.
>       / ,\\
>       )/  \\.```````.
>         .-.'         `.-.
>        ((   /o\   /o\   ))
>         `-` \_/   \_/ `-`
>   _.-.-.-.__   (_) _.-.-.-._
>  `.'-'-'-'-.\ '._./.'-'-'-'.'
>      ,-.-. || ,-. ||  '.
>     (_(_ ))|[( @ )]| ,-.-.
>     <====._|| `-' ||(( _)_)
>     : - |  ||.`"'.||_.====>
>     | - :  \|: - ||/  : - |
>     '.-,`   `| - :`   '.-,`
>              : - |
>              '.-,`     LGB
>
>
> What browser do you use? Asciimator has been tested only for IE yet...
> And I'd like very much to know about other browsers too... So, keep in
> touch please!
>
>
> P.S. For JavaScript programmers:
> I used "document.all.IDTAG.innerText" function to paste the ascii
> images inside <div></div> container... Does it work correctly with all
> browsers or not? Also I used StyleSheet "position:absolute" parameter.



I tried with Mozilla v 1.3 and the space where the ascii was supposed to be
was blank.

drax

"karaboz" <t...@asciimator.net> skrev i meddelandet
 news:326...@posting.google.com
<snip>
>
> What browser do you use? Asciimator has been tested only for IE yet...
> And I'd like very much to know about other browsers too... So, keep in
> touch please!
>
> P.S. For JavaScript programmers:
> I used "document.all.IDTAG.innerText" function to paste the ascii
> images inside <div></div> container... Does it work correctly with all
> browsers or not? Also I used StyleSheet "position:absolute" parameter.

I'm guessing that the innerText property is non-DOM compliant and thus
only available in IE's DHTML model. You're probably better off using
TEXTAREAs. However, you might want to try using
    document.getElementById('IDTAG').innerText
instead, as that would be more conformant with the standard.

After some googling, I came up with this allegedly DOM compliant example.
I haven't tried it.

    document.getElementById("counter").childNodes[0].nodeValue = x;
    // - note that for this to work, the div must already have a child node.
    // - Otherwise, you'll get an error.

By "child node" he means any content at all. "counters" is of course
the ID of his div.

-- 
 OO  Joaquim G�ndara
.||. http://www.Nerd-Boy.net
 bb  jg

On 2005-01-05 t...@asciimator.net (karaboz) said:

   > What browser do you use? Asciimator has been tested only for IE
   > yet... And I'd like very much to know about other browsers too...
                                             _____ 
      It doesn't work at all with Arachne   (((   `\
      or DR-WebSpyder (DOS). Also doesn't   _ _`\   )
      work with Voyager (QNX).              (^  )   )
                                             ~-(     )
      I think Joe Gandara is right:          _'((,,,)))
      you're using a coding technique     ,-' \_/    `\
      that doesn't conform to the        (          ,  |
      true JavaScript standard.           `-.-'`-.-'/|_|
                                             \     / | |
      The fact that it works in Mikro$loth    =()=: / ,' aa
      Internut Exploder is merely a testa-
      ment to the reality that M$'s software
      is highly NON-standard.

      It's a typical example of how Mikro$loth operates.
      M$ adds its own proprietary 'features' to a formerly
      universal standard -- which causes non-M$ software
      to 'break.'

      It's a disingenuous practice known as 'embrace and
      extend.' Mikro$loth has used this practice extensively
      in the past to try to eliminate its competition, and
      to reinforce its stranglehold on the computer desktop
      market.

      This is one of the reasons why I don't use M$ products,
      and never will.

      Mikro$loth totally sux, d00d. Hehe!

karaboz wrote:
> 
> Sorry for opening new subj... But I always have "Unable to retrieve
> message" error (Could anybode help me to fix this problem?)
> 
> >New apdate from lgbeard on www.asciimator.net
> 
> _________________________________________Aidan Karley told:
> >"Don't know what the code is meant to do, but the space for the
> >animation doesn't do anything to my browser. I've got JavaScript
> >enabled, and the only features disabled for it are hiding/ changing
> the
> >status bar, for which I can't conceive of a legitimate use."
> 
> __________________________________________
> 
> Aidan! Thanks a lot for your replying!
> So you don't even see this start image? But you can see just an empty
> space (between the name of this ascii and bottom linksbar)? Am I
> right?
> 
>        .-.
>       / ,\\
>       )/  \\.```````.
>         .-.'         `.-.
>        ((   /o\   /o\   ))
>         `-` \_/   \_/ `-`
>   _.-.-.-.__   (_) _.-.-.-._
>  `.'-'-'-'-.\ '._./.'-'-'-'.'
>      ,-.-. || ,-. ||  '.
>     (_(_ ))|[( @ )]| ,-.-.
>     <====._|| `-' ||(( _)_)
>     : - |  ||.`"'.||_.====>
>     | - :  \|: - ||/  : - |
>     '.-,`   `| - :`   '.-,`
>              : - |
>              '.-,`     LGB
> 
> 
> What browser do you use? Asciimator has been tested only for IE yet...
> And I'd like very much to know about other browsers too... So, keep in
> touch please!
> 
> Does it work correctly with all
> browsers or not? Also I used StyleSheet "position:absolute" parameter.

It doesn't work with Netscape 4.8, but works with IE5.5.

-- 
Joe   =o)
___
\o `
 &    
/ \  
 �

In article <326...@posting.google.com>, Karaboz 
wrote:
> Aidan! Thanks a lot for your replying!
>
       Coding in a vacuum is so ... breathless <G>.

> So you don't even see this start image?
>
       Blank white rectangle and nothing in it (I have a non-white 
default background, which your page does not override, apparently).
       
> What browser do you use?
>
       Firefox 1.0 (this week).
       
> I used "document.all.IDTAG.innerText" function to paste the ascii
> images inside <div></div> container... Does it work correctly with all
> browsers or not? Also I used StyleSheet "position:absolute" parameter.
>
       {NULL}
       <G>
       
-- 
Aidan Karley,
Geologist,
"You are in a maze of twisty little presentation styles, all [different 
| alike]."

Joaquim Gï¿œndara schreef:
> "karaboz" <t...@asciimator.net> skrev i meddelandet
>  news:326...@posting.google.com
> <snip>
>>
>> What browser do you use? Asciimator has been tested only for IE yet...
>> And I'd like very much to know about other browsers too... So, keep in
>> touch please!
>>
>> P.S. For JavaScript programmers:
>> I used "document.all.IDTAG.innerText" function to paste the ascii
>> images inside <div></div> container... Does it work correctly with all
>> browsers or not? Also I used StyleSheet "position:absolute" parameter.
> 
> I'm guessing that the innerText property is non-DOM compliant and thus
> only available in IE's DHTML model. You're probably better off using
> TEXTAREAs. However, you might want to try using
>     document.getElementById('IDTAG').innerText
> instead, as that would be more conformant with the standard.
> 
> After some googling, I came up with this allegedly DOM compliant example.
> I haven't tried it.
> 
>     document.getElementById("counter").childNodes[0].nodeValue = x;
>     // - note that for this to work, the div must already have a child 
> node.     // - Otherwise, you'll get an error.
>
> By "child node" he means any content at all. "counters" is of course
> the ID of his div.

The document.all. is certainly a Internet Explorer only "feature". Use 
document.getElementById('IDTAG'). The innerText property also causes 
problems. You may want to try using innerHTML instead.

CU Hans
-- 
       ('<                  |\      _,,,---,,_                ima...@xs4all.nl
      ,',)                  /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_                Hans Marks
     ''<<                  |,4-  ) )-,_..;\ (  `'-'
--------""--------------  '---''(_/--'  `-'\_)  fL  ------------------------

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 17:30:32 -0500, Elmo <elm...@iglou.invalid> wrote:


>> >New apdate from lgbeard on www.asciimator.net
>>
>> _________________________________________Aidan Karley told:
>> >"Don't know what the code is meant to do, but the space for the
>> >animation doesn't do anything to my browser. I've got JavaScript
>> >enabled, and the only features disabled for it are hiding/ changing
>> >the status bar, for which I can't conceive of a legitimate use."
>>
>> __________________________________________
>>
>> Aidan! Thanks a lot for your replying!
>> So you don't even see this start image? But you can see just an empty
>> space (between the name of this ascii and bottom linksbar)? Am I
>> right?

8< *snip* for readability

>> Does it work correctly with all
>> browsers or not? Also I used StyleSheet "position:absolute" parameter.
>
> It doesn't work with Netscape 4.8, but works with IE5.5.

It does work with Opera 8.0beta1. However, all animations look kinda like  
this:

(tvset broken)
'\ /`
\ /
-----\/---
i\.--------'.
|\| .-----,#|
|\| |/////|:|
|\| |/////|;|
\! `-----' !
"--------"

It's all squashed to the left side of the box.
The Asciimator logo too suffers from that same problem.
_ _ _
__ _ ___ ___(_|_)_ __ ___ __ _| |_ ___ _ __
/ _` / __|/ __| | | '_ ` _ \ / _` | __/ _ \| '__|
| (_| \__ \ (__| | | | | | | | (_| | || (_) | |
\__,_|___/\___|_|_|_| |_| |_|\__,_|\__\___/|_|

something else that i have noticed, the |go back| link looks like this:

|
go back|

but on mouseover, it looks as intended:

<go back>

The other links (the orange ones) do look right.
the solution for that solution would be to set the nowrap attibute on the  
tablecell where that "go back" link is.

Perhaps installing Opera AND Firefox could show you a few other problems.

P.S. Using OPera, i have seen other ASCII-animations that use Java, and  
they look the way they were intended. So the problem must be in the code.
-- 
Balaam's Miracle
Visit http://balaamsmiracle.cjb.net , your source to Christian underground  
music.

"Joaquim GпїЅndara" <joa...@telia.com> wrote:
>  news:326...@posting.google.com
> <snip>
> >
> > What browser do you use? Asciimator has been tested only for IE yet...
> > And I'd like very much to know about other browsers too... So, keep in
> > touch please!
> >
> > P.S. For JavaScript programmers:
> > I used "document.all.IDTAG.innerText" function to paste the ascii
> > images inside <div></div> container... Does it work correctly with all
> > browsers or not? Also I used StyleSheet "position:absolute" parameter.
>
> I'm guessing that the innerText property is non-DOM compliant and thus
> only available in IE's DHTML model. You're probably better off using
> TEXTAREAs. However, you might want to try using
>     document.getElementById('IDTAG').innerText
> instead, as that would be more conformant with the standard.
>
> After some googling, I came up with this allegedly DOM compliant example.
> I haven't tried it.
>
>     document.getElementById("counter").childNodes[0].nodeValue = x;
>     // - note that for this to work, the div must already have a child
node.
>     // - Otherwise, you'll get an error.
>
> By "child node" he means any content at all. "counters" is of course
> the ID of his div.


 Dear Joaquim!
 Thanks a lot for your advize! It was very helpful. I realized the
 asciimator engine totally with NODES. No innerText, No innerHTML now.
 (=

 And asciimator became available to Mozilla and Opera!

 (But instead of
 document.getElementById("counter").childNodes[0].nodeValue = x;
 I used
 document.getElementById("counter").childNodes[0].data = x;
 And all works!)