Original Usenet thread from rec.arts.ascii, started 27 Sep 1994.
Question: Ascii to Binary or Gif
rec.arts.ascii
· 18 messages · 27 Sep 1994 - 13 Oct 1994
hi can any one suggest how do i decode ascii file to gif or binary format so i acn view them on my Gif converter or viewer any help will really be appreciated please reply to me at ase...@lynx.cs.usfca.edu thanks a lot amlan
In article <367pbd$89...@gagme.wwa.com>, Hulio <ase...@lynx.cs.usfca.edu> wrote: > >hi can any one suggest how do i decode ascii file to gif or binary format >so i acn view them on my Gif converter or viewer >any help will really be appreciated I'm not sure why you would want to turn a smal 1 or 2 K ASCII pic into a GIF of numerous K, but you could always take a screen shot of it. I'm puzzled by your use of the word 'decade'. What type of ASCII pic are you talking about? -- :###### :##### :###### :####### :###### :##### ####### ::###### :### :### :### ### ::::### :::### :### ### :### ### :::### :::### :### ### :### ### :### :### :##### :## ::::######## ####### :##### :## ::::####### :### :### ### :### :### ::::### ### :::### :### ### ### :### :::### :::### ### :### :### ### :### :### ####### ###### ### :### ### :### ###### ###### ### :### ######## ############# :##### ::#### :### :### ### :## :##### ::#### :### :## ::###### ::########### ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Bob Allison (bob...@wwa.com) wrote: > In article <367pbd$89...@gagme.wwa.com>, Hulio <ase...@lynx.cs.usfca.edu> wrote: > > > >hi can any one suggest how do i decode ascii file to gif or binary format > >so i acn view them on my Gif converter or viewer > >any help will really be appreciated > I'm not sure why you would want to turn a smal 1 or 2 K ASCII pic into > a GIF of numerous K, but you could always take a screen shot of it. As they say, a ASCII art in the hand is worth two GIFs in the sky, or something like that :-) > I'm puzzled by your use of the word 'decade'. What type of ASCII pic > are you talking about? I think he said "decode"... I think we ALL need vacations. :-) Take a week off, and let your designated backup moderator handle things. It's been a long month :-) -- Ryan Tucker rtu...@worf.infonet.net Des Moines, Iowa rtu...@ins.infonet.net http://www.infonet.net/showcase/rtucker -=- October 24th - It's time! Ask me for info. (e-mail only)
Ryan Tucker <rtu...@worf.infonet.net> wrote: > >Bob Allison (bob...@wwa.com) wrote: >> In article <367pbd$89...@gagme.wwa.com>, Hulio <ase...@lynx.cs.usfca.edu> wrote: >> > >> >hi can any one suggest how do i decode ascii file to gif or binary format >> >so i acn view them on my Gif converter or viewer >> >any help will really be appreciated > >> I'm not sure why you would want to turn a smal 1 or 2 K ASCII pic into >> a GIF of numerous K, but you could always take a screen shot of it. > >As they say, a ASCII art in the hand is worth two GIFs in the sky, or >something like that :-) > >> I'm puzzled by your use of the word 'decade'. What type of ASCII pic >> are you talking about? > >I think he said "decode"... I think we ALL need vacations. :-) > >Take a week off, and let your designated backup moderator handle things. >It's been a long month :-) No, it's not that. I type with a dvorak keyboard layout. And it's a common dvorak mistake to transpose the o and a. My sysadmin just emailed me pointing out that on my home page I spelled 'cool' as 'caal'. And when you're trying to cruise at 60 words per minute, well ... -- ****) *****) ****) *****) ******) *****) *****) ****) **) *) *) **) **) **) *) **) *) **) **) **) *) **) *) **) *) *) **) **) ******) *****) ****) **) *****) **) *) **) *) *) **) **) **) *) **) *) **) **) **) *) **) *) **) *) *) *****) *****) **) *) **) *) ******) *****) **) *) ****) ********)
Bob Allison (bob...@wwa.com) wrote: > Ryan Tucker <rtu...@worf.infonet.net> wrote: > > > >Bob Allison (bob...@wwa.com) wrote: > >> I'm puzzled by your use of the word 'decade'. What type of ASCII pic > >> are you talking about? > > > >I think he said "decode"... I think we ALL need vacations. :-) > > > >Take a week off, and let your designated backup moderator handle things. > >It's been a long month :-) > No, it's not that. I type with a dvorak keyboard layout. And it's a > common dvorak mistake to transpose the o and a. My sysadmin just emailed > me pointing out that on my home page I spelled 'cool' as 'caal'. And when > you're trying to cruise at 60 words per minute, well ... Does a Dvorak layout help ASCII art creation? I use the standard QWERTY keyboard on all computers I work on. While I've never seen a Dvorak keyboard, what advantages do they have to the ASCII artist? About the domain names, .com and .org seem to be your only choices.... if you ever plan to sell something on your domain name for profit, go with .com, but if you aren't, go with .org. There's really a fine line there, but I'd go with .com because it leaves room for the future :-) -- Ryan Tucker rtu...@worf.infonet.net Des Moines, Iowa rtu...@ins.infonet.net http://www.infonet.net/showcase/rtucker -=- Uhhh, huh huh, you said .sig. Cool.
Ryan Tucker <rtu...@worf.infonet.net> wrote: > >Bob Allison (bob...@wwa.com) wrote: >> >> No, it's not that. I type with a dvorak keyboard layout. And it's a >> common dvorak mistake to transpose the o and a. My sysadmin just emailed >> me pointing out that on my home page I spelled 'cool' as 'caal'. And when >> you're trying to cruise at 60 words per minute, well ... > >Does a Dvorak layout help ASCII art creation? I use the standard QWERTY >keyboard on all computers I work on. While I've never seen a Dvorak >keyboard, what advantages do they have to the ASCII artist? I use a Dvorak layout for actual typing because it is faster and requires less effort to type than QWERTY. OWERTY was scienfically designed to make typing difficult in the age of manual typewriters when typist were too fast for them and jammed them a lot. With QWERTY, you type about 20% to 30% on the home row, with Dvorak, you type about 70% to 80%. All the vowels are under my left hand, and the a and o are next to each other, and sometimes I transpose them. As to Dvorak's effect on ASCII art, I don't see much in the way I use it. I hold a mouse in one hand and have to use the other to move all over the keyboard to press characters, and to cue up cut, copy, paste, undo, etc. So it doesn't make a difference to me. >About the domain names, .com and .org seem to be your only choices.... if >you ever plan to sell something on your domain name for profit, go with >.com, but if you aren't, go with .org. There's really a fine line there, >but I'd go with .com because it leaves room for the future :-) I will probably use boba.com. Should take about a month to get it, and a couple more weeks to set up the automation (providing my guru is available at that time). -- /'\\ . || /'\\ /:\ ,._-_ /'\\ /'\\ ,._-_ /'\\ \\ \\ \\ """\\ || /;:.\ || || / || || || || || || || || || //;:. \ || ||/ || || || || || || || ;"-__// \\,/ ///;:.. \ \\, \\,/ \\,/ \\, \\,/ \\//\// __--"////;:... \"--__ '-__ "--_____--" __-' '""--_________--""'
Bob Allison (bob...@wwa.com) wrote: > Ryan Tucker <rtu...@worf.infonet.net> wrote: > >Does a Dvorak layout help ASCII art creation? I use the standard QWERTY > >keyboard on all computers I work on. While I've never seen a Dvorak > >keyboard, what advantages do they have to the ASCII artist? > I use a Dvorak layout for actual typing because it is faster and > requires less effort to type than QWERTY. OWERTY was scienfically designed > to make typing difficult in the age of manual typewriters when typist > were too fast for them and jammed them a lot. QWERTY still has its uses... my computer jams alot too :-) [...] > I will probably use boba.com. Should take about a month to get it, > and a couple more weeks to set up the automation (providing my guru is > available at that time). Aww, I liked scarecrow.com :-) What platform are you doing the automation on? Unix, for example, would be much easier than DOS for that sort of thing. -- Ryan Tucker rtu...@worf.infonet.net Des Moines, Iowa rtu...@ins.infonet.net http://www.infonet.net/showcase/rtucker -=- "Netiquette" is the ability to travel the Internet without sticking your nodes up at everyone else. --- Usenet Oracle
In article <36lef7$37...@sashimi.wwa.com>, Ryan Tucker <rtu...@worf.infonet.net> wrote: > >Bob Allison (bob...@wwa.com) wrote: >> Ryan Tucker <rtu...@worf.infonet.net> wrote: >> >Does a Dvorak layout help ASCII art creation? I use the standard QWERTY >> >keyboard on all computers I work on. While I've never seen a Dvorak >> >keyboard, what advantages do they have to the ASCII artist? > >> I use a Dvorak layout for actual typing because it is faster and >> requires less effort to type than QWERTY. OWERTY was scienfically designed >> to make typing difficult in the age of manual typewriters when typist >> were too fast for them and jammed them a lot. > >QWERTY still has its uses... my computer jams alot too :-) It blows my mind that a system that was made to be bad is the absolute, and I mean complete, total standard. There have been, and there are, alternatives, but they are almost non-existant. I couldn't imagine typing with QWERTY. I guess I'm in an extremely small minority. >> I will probably use boba.com. Should take about a month to get it, >> and a couple more weeks to set up the automation (providing my guru is >> available at that time). > >Aww, I liked scarecrow.com :-) It still has an outside chance. I haven't sent the form in yet. So, it's still in there, wigling away. >What platform are you doing the automation on? Unix, for example, would >be much easier than DOS for that sort of thing. It would be set up on my Unix host, WorldWide Access. They are the nice folks who provide services for the newsgroup, FTP site, Web pages, and will provide services for the automated requests and digest. If you have a second, you might want to send a thank you to my sysadmin, Greg Gulik at gre...@wwa.com or Dave Vrona at dav...@wwa.com, or to both of them! It only takes a few second, and it certainly doesn't hurt. Sysadmins do a lot of work, and usually only hear from people when they want something, or when something needs fixing. It can make their day to get an email pat on the back. -- :######\:#####\:######\:#######\:######\:#####\#######\::######\:###|:###|:###| ###(::::###/:::###/:###|###|:###|###|:::###/:::###|:###|###|:###|###|:###|:###| :#####\:##|::::########|#######/:#####|:##|::::#######/:###|:###|###|:###|:###| ::::###|###\:::###|:###|###|###\:###|:::###\:::###|###\:###|:###|###|:###|:###| #######|######/###|:###|###|:###/######/######/###|:###/########|#############| :#####/::####/:###|:###|###|:##/:#####/::####/:###|:##/::######/::###########/: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
And bob...@wwa.com (Bob Allison) spake unto us, saying: > Hulio <ase...@lynx.cs.usfca.edu> wrote: > >hi can any one suggest how do i decode ascii file to gif or binary format > >so i acn view them on my Gif converter or viewer > >any help will really be appreciated > I'm not sure why you would want to turn a smal 1 or 2 K ASCII pic into > a GIF of numerous K, but you could always take a screen shot of it. Sounds to me like the original poster wanted to know how to uudecode. Someone send him a FAQ on this; I'm too tired tonight. > I'm puzzled by your use of the word 'dec[o]de'. What type of ASCII > pic are you talking about? If I don't miss my guess, uudecode is what he meant. __ ___ __ __ _ ___ _ ___ _ ___ _ ___ _ __ __ ___ __ |_| _| / | |_| / \. _| / \. | | | / \ | | | ./ \ |_ ./ \ |_| | \ |_ |_| / | __| \_| / | \_/ | \_/ | |_| \_/ |_| | \_/ | \_/ | \ |_/ |__ | \ ude.cmh@sleumasp psa...@hmc.edu (nosleumaS reteP r(O)r Peter Samuelson) [October 17 -- It's Time! Ask me for details!]
Bob Allison (bob...@wwa.com) wrote: > It blows my mind that a system that was made to be bad is the > absolute, and I mean complete, total standard. There have been, and > there are, alternatives, but they are almost non-existant. I couldn't > imagine typing with QWERTY. I guess I'm in an extremely small minority. QWERTY is still taught in school typing courses (at least here). The main reason is because they like to use the computers "out of the box", and don't have time or money to change the keyboards. And, most businesses have QWERTY keyboards, so to create more productive workers, they teach QWERTY. (it's quite easy once you get the hang of it ... I can easily type over 100 wpm on a good keyboard) > >> I will probably use boba.com. Should take about a month to get it, > >> and a couple more weeks to set up the automation (providing my guru is > >> available at that time). > > > >Aww, I liked scarecrow.com :-) > It still has an outside chance. I haven't sent the form in yet. So, > it's still in there, wigling away. Here's an idea... how about a vote? > >What platform are you doing the automation on? Unix, for example, would > >be much easier than DOS for that sort of thing. > It would be set up on my Unix host, WorldWide Access. They are the > nice folks who provide services for the newsgroup, FTP site, Web pages, > and will provide services for the automated requests and digest. Wow -- your provider sounds great! What software are you planning on using for the automated requests and digests? Or will it be custom-made? > If you have a second, you might want to send a thank you to my > sysadmin, Greg Gulik at gre...@wwa.com or Dave Vrona at dav...@wwa.com, or to > both of them! It only takes a few second, and it certainly doesn't hurt. > Sysadmins do a lot of work, and usually only hear from people when they > want something, or when something needs fixing. It can make their day to > get an email pat on the back. System administration doesn't get much recognition. They sit in the background and fix things, and most of the time you never see 'em in person. Sysadmins are pretty neat folks :-) I sent that message... for once, they'll have something other than reports of broken software in their mailbox on Monday :-) -- Ryan Tucker rtu...@worf.infonet.net Des Moines, Iowa rtu...@ins.infonet.net http://www.infonet.net/showcase/rtucker #2: This smile isn't happyness, it's INSANITY!
In article <36n8tq$h6...@sashimi.wwa.com>, Ryan Tucker <rtu...@worf.infonet.net> wrote: > >Bob Allison (bob...@wwa.com) wrote: >> It blows my mind that a system that was made to be bad is the >> absolute, and I mean complete, total standard. There have been, and >> there are, alternatives, but they are almost non-existant. I couldn't >> imagine typing with QWERTY. I guess I'm in an extremely small minority. > >QWERTY is still taught in school typing courses (at least here). The >main reason is because they like to use the computers "out of the box", >and don't have time or money to change the keyboards. And, most >businesses have QWERTY keyboards, so to create more productive workers, >they teach QWERTY. Is it true that QWERTY causes more long term damage to the hands? >(it's quite easy once you get the hang of it ... I can easily type over >100 wpm on a good keyboard) > >> >> I will probably use boba.com. Should take about a month to get it, >> >> and a couple more weeks to set up the automation (providing my guru is >> >> available at that time). >> > >> >Aww, I liked scarecrow.com :-) > >> It still has an outside chance. I haven't sent the form in yet. So, >> it's still in there, wigling away. > >Here's an idea... how about a vote? The majority of mail I got said boba.com, and I like it too, so I picked boba.com. >> >What platform are you doing the automation on? Unix, for example, would >> >be much easier than DOS for that sort of thing. > >> It would be set up on my Unix host, WorldWide Access. They are the >> nice folks who provide services for the newsgroup, FTP site, Web pages, >> and will provide services for the automated requests and digest. > >Wow -- your provider sounds great! What software are you planning on >using for the automated requests and digests? Or will it be custom-made? Haven't gotten to that yet. Probably in a couple of weeks. >> If you have a second, you might want to send a thank you to my >> sysadmin, Greg Gulik at gre...@wwa.com or Dave Vrona at dav...@wwa.com, or to >> both of them! It only takes a few second, and it certainly doesn't hurt. >> Sysadmins do a lot of work, and usually only hear from people when they >> want something, or when something needs fixing. It can make their day to >> get an email pat on the back. > >System administration doesn't get much recognition. They sit in the >background and fix things, and most of the time you never see 'em in >person. Sysadmins are pretty neat folks :-) Why that's what mine have been telling me for years. :^) >I sent that message... for once, they'll have something other than >reports of broken software in their mailbox on Monday :-) Yeah, maybe now is a good time for me to ask for a dedicated line. :^) -- . + ' . * . . ' ) . + . . ____ _____ ___ . ____ . _____ ' .+ . * '. * / __/ /____/ /__ \ ' /__ \ '/____/ . * ' . + . '+ ' .( ( + __' . __| |.* ___) / ____' ' + . .' .' \ \' / / . ,/,/| | ./ _/. / __/ ' . ' . + : ' . * '____) )/ /__ ,/ /__| | / /\ \ / /__' _____ ____ _______' __ __ __ /_____//____//________|/_/ /_/'/____/ /____/ /__ \ '/ ___ /./ /'/ /./ / ' .+ . * ' . : __ . + ___) /. / /. / / / / / / / /. . ' * . + ' . */ /. '/ _/ / /'*/ /'/ /./ /*/ /. ' . ' ( . ' : + / /__ / /\ \'./ /__/ / / /_/ /_/ / + ' '. .+ .' * ' ./____/ /_/ /_/ /______/+/_________/ .' . * ' . ' . '+ . ' * . ' ( + '. :
Bob Allison (bob...@wwa.com) wrote: > >QWERTY is still taught in school typing courses (at least here). The > >main reason is because they like to use the computers "out of the box", > >and don't have time or money to change the keyboards. And, most > >businesses have QWERTY keyboards, so to create more productive workers, > >they teach QWERTY. > Is it true that QWERTY causes more long term damage to the hands? Hmmm... dunno. There haven't been any studies on it, as far as I know. (and, there's not enough people using Dvorak to really do a good study) > >> >Aww, I liked scarecrow.com :-) > > > >> It still has an outside chance. I haven't sent the form in yet. So, > >> it's still in there, wigling away. > > > >Here's an idea... how about a vote? > The majority of mail I got said boba.com, and I like it too, so I > picked boba.com. Fair enough :-) > >Wow -- your provider sounds great! What software are you planning on > >using for the automated requests and digests? Or will it be custom-made? > Haven't gotten to that yet. Probably in a couple of weeks. Good luck! :-) > >> If you have a second, you might want to send a thank you to my > >> sysadmin, Greg Gulik at gre...@wwa.com or Dave Vrona at dav...@wwa.com, or to > >> both of them! It only takes a few second, and it certainly doesn't hurt. > >> Sysadmins do a lot of work, and usually only hear from people when they > >> want something, or when something needs fixing. It can make their day to > >> get an email pat on the back. > > > >System administration doesn't get much recognition. They sit in the > >background and fix things, and most of the time you never see 'em in > >person. Sysadmins are pretty neat folks :-) > Why that's what mine have been telling me for years. :^) Ditto here :-) > >I sent that message... for once, they'll have something other than > >reports of broken software in their mailbox on Monday :-) > Yeah, maybe now is a good time for me to ask for a dedicated line. :^) Hey, send my sysadmin thank you messages... I want one, too :-) -- Ryan Tucker rtu...@worf.infonet.net Des Moines, Iowa rtu...@ins.infonet.net http://www.infonet.net/showcase/rtucker #5: October 24th - It's time! Ask me for info. (e-mail only)
In article <367pbd$89...@gagme.wwa.com>, Hulio <ase...@lynx.cs.usfca.edu> wrote: >hi can any one suggest how do i decode ascii file to gif or binary format >so i acn view them on my Gif converter or viewer It turns out (I emailed him) he wanted to decode a uuencoded GIF. I'm not sure why he asked on r.a.a but there you are! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parallel lines DO meet but only incognito. Ryan Harding, Applied Optics, UKC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Now no-one's sitting on the fence, whose garden will we end up sitting in?" - John Wesley Harding, "The Person You Are" from "The Name Above The Title" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
In article <36nd5f$an...@gagme.wwa.com> rtu...@worf.infonet.net (Ryan Tucker) writes: >From: rtu...@worf.infonet.net (Ryan Tucker) >Subject: Talk: Dvorak, domain name, sysadmins (Hi Greg & Dave) >Date: 2 Oct 1994 17:45:03 -0500 >Bob Allison (bob...@wwa.com) wrote: >> >QWERTY is still taught in school typing courses (at least here). The >> >main reason is because they like to use the computers "out of the box", >> >and don't have time or money to change the keyboards. And, most >> >businesses have QWERTY keyboards, so to create more productive workers, >> >they teach QWERTY. >> Is it true that QWERTY causes more long term damage to the hands? >Hmmm... dunno. There haven't been any studies on it, as far as I know. >(and, there's not enough people using Dvorak to really do a good study) ... sorry to cut here, but if you refer to RSI (= Repetative Strain Injury) then it's not the keyboard type itselft (Dvorak or QWERTZ (german version)) but rather the fact that the keyboard is one big block and one has to hold the hands in a position which is not straight to the arms. So you hold your hands in an unnatural position for a long period which may damage the joins between hands and arms. -- .odbo. .od88888888bo. Paul Foerster .od8888888888888888bo. .od888888888888888888888888bo. pau...@heino.ibh.rwth-aachen.de od88888888888888888888888888888888bo `~888888888888888888888888888888~' `~888888888888888888888888~'| "Beam me up Scotty, there's no `~888888888888888888~' | intelligent life down here!" |`~888888888888~'| | \ `~888888~' / A `-_ `~~' _-' H `--____--'
I've always had an interest in Dvorak keyboards. I am intent on working on it in the next few weeks. However, the learning process is slow and my work just won't wait. I suspect that that is the main reason that Qwerty is the de facto standard: I know of no school that teachs anything but querty, nor have I ever even seen anything but Qwerty keyboards! That makes some things tough, such as control, command, alternate, etc. commands which most people (I believe) still type in a hunt and peck fashion in which seeing the letter printed on the key is a Big help. Also, some of the modified-key combination commands are layed out in a very convenient format (i.e. apple's cut, copy, paste: x,c,v and many find, find again, replace & find again commands: f,g,h). Nonetheless, I'm going to convert just as soon I can (get the hang of it). IMHO, Scarecrow.com sounds a lot classier than boba.com; it gets my vote. Travis <twp...@acpub.duke.edu> --------------------------------- There are two types of people--those who come into a room and say, "Well, here I am!" and those who come in and say, "Ah, there you are." -Frederick L. Collins
In article <371g6t$50...@sashimi.wwa.com> twp...@callisto.acpub.duke.edu (Travis "Wellington of Duke" Pouarz) writes: > >I've always had an interest in Dvorak keyboards. I am intent on [...] >commands are layed out in a very convenient format (i.e. apple's cut, >copy, paste: x,c,v and many find, find again, replace & find again >commands: f,g,h). Nonetheless, I'm going to convert just as soon I can >(get the hang of it). How does the dvorak go when using editers like vi? ie. movement keys. Having never seen a dvorak, could someone post the key layout? >IMHO, Scarecrow.com sounds a lot classier than boba.com; it gets my >vote. My thoughts exactly. --------------------------------------------------------------------- * TPot * "To splurge or not to splurge, * * . * that is the question." * * (O~ * - William Moyes * ---------------------------------------------------------------------
i92...@redgum.ucnv.edu.au writes: > How does the dvorak go when using editers like vi? ie. movement keys. > Having never seen a dvorak, could someone post the key layout? Dunno, don't use it, but here's the layout, according to a document from an FTP site mentioned somewhere on this thread: ' , . p y f g c r l a o e u i d h t n s <-- home row ; q j k x b m w v z LEFT HAND RIGHT HAND Looks like h, j, k and l are where we have j, c, v and p. Not too handy, but you'd get used to it (oh, the double horror of learning Dvorak and using vi simultaneously...). > >IMHO, Scarecrow.com sounds a lot classier than boba.com > My thoughts exactly. " " " " " __ ___ __ __ _ ___ _ ___ _ ___ _ ___ _ __ __ ___ __ |_| _| / | |_| / \. _| / \. | | | / \ | | | ./ \ |_ ./ \ |_| | \ |_ |_| / | __| \_| / | \_/ | \_/ | |_| \_/ |_| | \_/ | \_/ | \ |_/ |__ | \ ude.cmh@sleumasp psa...@hmc.edu (nosleumaS reteP r(O)r Peter Samuelson) [October 17 -- It's Time! Ask me for details!]
TPot (i92...@redgum.ucnv.edu.au) wrote: : In article <371g6t$50...@sashimi.wwa.com> twp...@callisto.acpub.duke.edu (Travis "Wellington of Duke" Pouarz) writes: : > : >I've always had an interest in Dvorak keyboards. I am intent on : [...] : >commands are layed out in a very convenient format (i.e. apple's cut, : >copy, paste: x,c,v and many find, find again, replace & find again : >commands: f,g,h). Nonetheless, I'm going to convert just as soon I can : >(get the hang of it). When I had my Macintosh remapped to Dvorak (even replaced the keycaps!) I left the command-keys in the same qwerty locations (you can do that) because the keystrokes for cut, copy, and paste are more "muscle memory" than cognition. : How does the dvorak go when using editers like vi? ie. movement keys. : Having never seen a dvorak, could someone post the key layout? I'd rebind vi's keys to use the home row for movement, for the same reasons above. (Since this isn't a really ascii-art thread, could we try to move it somewhere else?) -- /''' Collin Forbes c oo col...@uidaho.edu `` > `'` http://gopher.uidaho.edu/1/users/collinf/
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