QUESTION: WWW page ascii drawings

Hey all,
	
	I'm in the process of making a WWW page, and I would love to include
some ascii art, but I cant seem to get it to work. It loads up all wirds (no
spaces, type look)... I use a window's Hyper Txt Editor, and windows
cant show my ascii stuff either.. how am I saving this wrong? I use
the draw.. thanks for any help!

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    ___    \XX    dh    Xxx    xxXXXX     ___    XX    X     ___    XXX    dh
   dXXXh    X!   |XX!   |XX    XXXXXX    dXXXh    X    X    dXXXh    X!    XX
   XXXXX    X!   |XX!   |XX    XX~~~X    XXXXX    X    X    XXXXX    X!    XX
   XXXXX    XX    VD    XXX    @f   X    XXXXX    X    X    XXXXX    XX    VD
   XXXXX    XXb_      _dXXXh_     _dX    XXXXX    X    X    XXXXX    XXh_    ,
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX!~~~VXP
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NOT: I'm also still looking for suggestions for that NOTHING thhinggy.
:)
thanks

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In a previous article, bob...@wwa.com (Bob Allison) says:

>
>Christopher B. Sobczak <not...@prairienet.org> wrote:
>>
>>	I'm in the process of making a WWW page, and I would love to include
>>some ascii art, but I cant seem to get it to work. It loads up all wirds (no
>>spaces, type look)... I use a window's Hyper Txt Editor, and windows
>>cant show my ascii stuff either.. how am I saving this wrong? I use
>>the draw.. thanks for any help!
>
>   To use ASCII art on the Web, you need to have three things:
>
>
>1  ASCII art that will look good displayed dark on light, as that is how 
>   it will be displayed on most graphical browsers.  And it should be very 
>   good ASCII art too, as you are competing with GIFs on the Web.


Thanks for the info! It really helps alot! But I do have a follow up
question. The ascii doesnt even look right in windows... or the
HTML editor I use. Specifically one of them is this..

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx    xxxxxx    xxxxxxxxxx    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX    XXXXXX    XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
   P~   ~\XXXXD~      ~GX        XXXX    P~   ~\XXX    X   P~    ~\XXXXX     ~
    ___    \XX    dh    Xxx    xxXXXX     ___    XX    X     ___    XXX    dh
   dXXXh    X!   |XX!   |XX    XXXXXX    dXXXh    X    X    dXXXh    X!    XX
   XXXXX    X!   |XX!   |XX    XX~~~X    XXXXX    X    X    XXXXX    X!    XX
   XXXXX    XX    VD    XXX    @f   X    XXXXX    X    X    XXXXX    XX    VD
   XXXXX    XXb_      _dXXXh_     _dX    XXXXX    X    X    XXXXX    XXh_    ,
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX!~~~VXP
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`

it comes out odd.. as if the spaces didnt work..

liks this
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sig out of order

Christopher B. Sobczak speaking:
> 
> But I do have a follow up question. The ascii doesnt even look right
> in windows... or the HTML editor I use.

Most likely you forgot to put your document in "typewriter" mode --
it's still using proportional spacing, and ASCII art should ALWAYS be
viewed with fixed spacing.  Use the HTML directives <TT> and </TT>
around your ASCII.

 ,adPPY ,adPPY ,adPPYba,
a8"    a8 a   a8 a    "8a  Peter Samuelson
8b     8 d8   8 d8     d8  <psa...@hmc.edu>
"8a,   ,a8'   ,a8'   ,a8"  <pjs...@cs.twsu.edu>
 `"YbbdP"' bbdP"' bbdP"'

psa...@hmc.edu (Peter Samuelson) wrote:
>
> 
> Christopher B. Sobczak speaking:
> > 
> > But I do have a follow up question. The ascii doesnt even look right
> > in windows... or the HTML editor I use.
> 
> Most likely you forgot to put your document in "typewriter" mode --
> it's still using proportional spacing, and ASCII art should ALWAYS be
> viewed with fixed spacing.  Use the HTML directives <TT> and </TT>
> around your ASCII.
> 
>  ,adPPY ,adPPY ,adPPYba,
> a8"    a8 a   a8 a    "8a  Peter Samuelson
> 8b     8 d8   8 d8     d8  <psa...@hmc.edu>
> "8a,   ,a8'   ,a8'   ,a8"  <pjs...@cs.twsu.edu>
>  `"YbbdP"' bbdP"' bbdP"'

.. better use the <pre> </pre> directives which simply mean that the 
text in between is a preformatted text like listings, ascii art and such
things. By definition of HTML successing blanks will be reduced to only
one blank which is why ascii art looks rather odd. I'd suggest not to use
the <tt> </tt> directives because they like e.g. the bold-style (<b> </b>)
and italic-style (<i> </i>) directives refer to text-styles whereas the
<pre> </pre> directive is a layout thing. And the text-styles will appear
differently on other browsers while the layout will most likely be the 
same. This is why you should use the preformatted-directive. There is 
also a text about dos-and-don'ts somewhere which deals with this sort of
thing. I'll post its address if i find it again.

Paul

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