Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 1 Oct 1998.
The Official FAQ of alt.ascii-art
alt.ascii-art
· 22 messages · 1 Oct 1998 - 8 Oct 1998
The Official FAQ of alt.ascii-art
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/ _ _| 1. Thou shalt read the FAQ.
(\'('\/') 2. Thou shalt remove initials
______/( >(__ from any ASCII art.
/`- \ \_=__| `\ 3. Thou shalt claim ownership
/ /__( _____\ _____ of anyone else's ASCII art.
/_ \.____ ," "." ",__ 4. Thou shalt read the FAQ.
| / _\__/_ - / \ 5. Thou shalt not ask permission
\/ /____ \ASCII ART FAQ /// before using anyone else's
) / / \__\ - | ASCII art.
'-.__|_/ ///| I VI | 6. Thou shalt sell anyone
\_ | | | else's ASCII art.
| | II VII | 7. Thou shalt read the darn FAQ.
\ | | | 8. Thou shalt post anyone else's
/ | III VIII | ASCII art without making
\ | | | clear that you didn't make it.
\_ | IV IX | 9. Thou shalt assume that
\| | | ASCII art isn't art at all.
| V X | 10. Thou shalt read the FAQing FAQ.
|______b'ger______|
>Message-id: <361...@sympatico.ca>
The true official...
-------The ASCII ART FAQ Ten Commandments.---------
\\\\`///
/ _ _| 1/ Thou shalt read the FAQ.
(\'('\/') 2/ Thou shalt not remove the
______/( >(__ Signature from any ASCII ART.
/`- \ \_=__| `\ 3/ Thou shalt not claim the Ownership
/ /__( _____\ _____ of someone else's ASCII ART.
/_ \.____ ," "." ",__ 4/ Thou shalt read the FAQ.
| / _\__/_ - / \ 5/ Thou shalt ask permission
\/ /____ \ASCII ART FAQ /// before using Someone else's
) / / \__\ - | ASCII ART.
'-.__|_/ ///| I VI | 6/ Thou shalt not sell Someone
\_ | | | else's ASCII ART.
| | II VII | 7/ Thou shalt read the darn FAQ.
\ | | | 8/ Thou shalt not post
/ | III VIII | unaccredited ASCII ART without
\ | | | mentioning that you didn't make it.
\_ | IV IX | 9/ Thou shalt not assume that
\| | | ASCII ART isn't ART at all.
| V X | 10/ Thou shalt read the FAQing FAQ.
|______b'ger______|
a copy of the FAQ can be found at:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373/faq.htm
links to tutorials also available there!--
PetecASSo, why don't you just go away?
Perhaps you are the 'kangaroo' from the
alt.life.sucks threat? I would assume that
you enjoy ASCII art.. otherwise you would
have never come up with the 'stein' cartoons,
why are you intent on ruining the NG?
Do you find enjoyment in digging your own
grave?
-joan
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/_ _\ /_ _\ joan stark
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\ || / \ || / ASCII ART GALLERY:
\ / \ / http://www.ascii-art.com
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jgs '.__.' '.__.'
Spunk1111 wrote: > PetecASSo, why don't you just go away? > Perhaps you are the 'kangaroo' from the > alt.life.sucks threat? I would assume that > you enjoy ASCII art.. otherwise you would > have never come up with the 'stein' cartoons, > why are you intent on ruining the NG? > Do you find enjoyment in digging your own > grave? Ha ha, Spunk-ASS-stein, now you begin to understand that I may disrespect your copyrights, if you disrespect mine! ========================================================= [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] =========================================================
Spunkystein, a psychotic newcomer may need your help. Can I introduce you to her as the local patron saint who has performed miracles such as salvage abused women and childrens, soothe growling cowbirds, mollify belligerent psychopaths and such wonders, so that you may heal her suffering soul? ========================================================= [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] =========================================================
>Message-id: <361...@sympatico.ca> >Ha ha, Spunk-ASS-stein, now you begin to understand that I may disrespect >your >copyrights, if you disrespect mine! Get your arguments right.... I never did anything to your copyrights... you may have the stein characters-- all of them. -joan -- ,sSSs ,SSSS_/ ,_ joan stark sS/`))\// mailto:spu...@juno.com sS//|_(_/ _, ,SS\\\ `""-.-'` / ASCII ART GALLERY jgs sSS` ) `-==-'`'-._\ http://www.ascii-art.com
> Get your arguments right.... I never > did anything to your copyrights... you may > have the stein characters-- all of them. That's not what I said. What I said was that you ridiculed copyrights, and in so doing, weaken the already virtually non-existent awareness of ascii art copyrights. This damages your own "keep initials on the pic" insistance, which is nothing else but an explicit assertion of copyrights, even if you are not aware of it. ========================================================= [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] =========================================================
>Message-id: <361...@sympatico.ca> >> Get your arguments right.... I never >> did anything to your copyrights... you may >> have the stein characters-- all of them. >That's not what I said. Oh please, reread what you yourself wrote... that *I* disrespected *YOUR* copyright.. I did no such thing. In fact, if you go back and check dejanews, you'll find that I supported your copyright claim... The thanks I get, dear Pete, is that you play around with the credits of my ASCII art. (and others) >What I said was that you ridiculed copyrights, and in so doing, weaken the >already virtually non-existent awareness of ascii art copyrights. This >damages >your own "keep initials on the pic" insistance, which is nothing else but an >explicit assertion of copyrights, even if you are not aware of it. Of course I am aware of copyrights... you obviously have not been to my website... I have had links to internet copyright info and intellectual property sites for close to a year. I don't think that there is a 'virtually non- existant awareness' of copyrights within this newsgroup... er, have you forgotten the issues of Lennert Stock and the ascii art software? There is an awareness... Most people seem to pay attention to credits. Occasionally there are newcomers to the newsgroup who are not aware of copyright concerns. The FAQ does refer to it and if transgressions do occur, they are confronted by regular members of the newsgroup. What you have been doing recently-- changing credits on ASCII art pictures is malicious and cruel... it does not serve any purpose except to show that you don't follow your own rules... (do as I say and not what I do...) you have set a poor example of yourself. And in return, you have made a fool of yourself. Not to mention the fact that many newcomers to this newsgroup will now copy and use the mis-credited ASCII art.... You have done a mis-service to the artform which you obviously enjoy. Another thing that I don't understand, is that you have requested that no one repost your characters-- even though at one point you encouraged it. It reminds me of the time that I linked to your site and you requested that I remove the link. You want your stein characters to be popular, but you seem to cut off your nose despite your face. Perhaps it is time that you grow up Pete... and act like an adult... (you are, aren't you?) -joan -- ((`\ ___ \\ '--._ joan stark .'` `' o ) mailto:spu...@juno.com / \ '. __.' _| /_ \ \_\_ ASCII ART GALLERY: jgs {_\______\-'\__\_\ http://www.ascii-art.com/
Spunkystein's laments along the lines of "that's the only reward the ascii artist gets" is not effective, people continue committing copyright infringements on her pics, even Colinstein does it. More effective is to make clear to perpetrators that they are committing acts of piracy, vandalism and theft of intellectual property. If a simple reminder does not work, then inflict acts of piracy, vandalism and theft upon the perpetrator's own pics. In other words, I am not going to spend time on second reminders. I encourage everyone to do the same. ========================================================= [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] =========================================================
On Sun, 04 Oct 1998 13:17:58 GMT, Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> wrote thusly: >Spunkystein's laments along the lines of "that's the only reward the ascii >artist gets" is not effective, people continue committing copyright >infringements on her pics, even Colinstein does it. >More effective is to make clear to perpetrators that they are committing acts >of piracy, vandalism and theft of intellectual property. If a simple reminder >does not work, then inflict acts of piracy, vandalism and theft upon the >perpetrator's own pics. > >In other words, I am not going to spend time on second reminders. I encourage >everyone to do the same. Now what was that phrase about two wrongs... Have you any idea how childish you sound? The fact is that the people who are most likely to remove signitures from a picture aren't artists. So they have no pictures upon which "copyright infringements" can be committed. If you really feel that strongly about copyright infringments upon your pictures then the proper course of action would be to take legal action against the person who stole/vandalised/pirated your intellectual property, not to indulge in squabbles that would be more fitting in a playground. Perhaps it's time for me to get a killfile. __________ Aziraphael
>Message-id: <361...@sympatico.ca> >Spunkystein's laments along the lines of "that's the only reward the ascii >artist gets" is not effective, people continue committing copyright >infringements on her pics, even Colinstein does it. Huh? I didn't bring this up with you... You seem to go off on tangents whenever I bring up a topic. You don't face the issues. Pete, you are too difficult to follow... you make no sense... you argue for the sake of arguing... Ever step back and look at the newsgroup and evaluate the 'disagreements'? Do you notice that you are involved in 99% of them? Do you wonder why? I've long ago forgiven and understood Colin- He posts so many pictures with credits intact, an occasional oversight can be overlooked--he did not do it intentionally... I can live with that.. I hold nothing against Colin at all. I like him. Maybe you can learn to let things go too-- stop beating a dead horse... >More effective is to make clear to perpetrators that they are committing acts >of piracy, vandalism and theft of intellectual property. If a simple reminder >does not work, then inflict acts of piracy, vandalism and theft upon the >perpetrator's own pics. Oh this makes sense... not. This correlates to be nice to people, if they are not nice to you, and after reminding them,& they are still not nice, then inflict acts of meanness upon them. Obviously your motto... but I've been raising my children differently. Perhaps you were an abused child. Reacting to meanness with more meanness is a sign of psychological damage. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Pete, you need help. I feel true sorrow for you. -joan -- , .--'|} / /}} .=\.--'`\} //` '---./` joan stark || /| spu...@juno.com \\| | |\_\\/ ASCII ART GALLERY: \__/\\ http://www.ascii-art.com \\ jgs \|
Spunk1111 wrote: > Huh? I didn't bring this up with you... It was you who moved to an exchange of words rather than messages. I said ridiculing copyrights is disrespecting copyrights, you said no, it is not. Rather than going into a seesaw of words (it is, it is not, etc.,) I opted to go for the key message (not words) facing the issue head on. > I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Pete, > you need help. I feel true sorrow for you. Ha ha ha! Are you trying to look adorable by projecting naivete? Anyway, you may be right. I plan to talk less, and act more. And if people ask why, then I will refer them to Colin with his law of the jungle ... uhh ... unmoderated newsgroup. So, Aziraphael and who else, get an answer from Colin, not me. I don't care about words anyway. ========================================================= [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] =========================================================
>Message-id: <361...@sympatico.ca> >It was you who moved to an exchange of words rather than messages. I said >ridiculing copyrights is disrespecting copyrights, you said no, it is not. >Rather than going into a seesaw of words (it is, it is not, etc.,) I opted to >go for the key message (not words) facing the issue head on. So now you're reading meanings into words? Just read the words... take them at face value. I'm at a complete loss with you Pete... you cannot follow a simple disagreement. I feel like I am trying to argue with a 2 year old. You are clueless. > >> I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Pete, >> you need help. I feel true sorrow for you. >Ha ha ha! Are you trying to look adorable by projecting naivete? No, I am adorable... ;) and I do feel sorry for you. I hope that someday you are able to grow up. Heaven help your children. They'll need it if you are their role model. >Anyway, you may be right. I plan to talk less, and act more. >not me. I don't care about words anyway. Ah, you plan on acting like an immature fool some more? Why don't you *contribute* something to this newsgroup? Instead you are intent on hurting it... hmmm, even newbies to the group have come to the conclusion that you are a "twit"... as I said... you are making a fool out of yourself. You don't care. -joan
Aziraphael <azi...@tcSPAMp.com> wrote: >On Sun, 04 Oct 1998 13:17:58 GMT, Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> wrote >thusly: >> >>In other words, I am not going to spend time on second reminders. I encourage >>everyone to do the same. >Now what was that phrase about two wrongs... >Have you any idea how childish you sound? [...snip...] >Perhaps it's time for me to get a killfile. Nope, just strictly, and totally, ignore PC's postings. Given time it will work admirably. PC has been given many chances to become a happy and contented user of this newsgroup but he chooses not to do so. That is his privilege. Bye,
>Message-id: <361...@sympatico.ca> >Spunkystein, a psychotic newcomer may need your help. Actually, I don't think she needs any help. She's right on the mark! > Can I introduce you to >her as the local patron saint who has performed miracles Just call me "Saint Joan of ASCII" (\_______ \\ \___________________ \\ Joan \ \ __ \\______\ of A S C I I < /_ \___ \\ \_________________\ \__(\_:) \\ ~ ~ )) (_\>> =_ ?( |_\\ , , __) \))___/_|\\ _)\_/) (/ )/( __//|)< \\ (/ (O)\|_, _/\(( '\/ \\ /_ ` _| /\ >_)/)x..( \\ / ,\_// \_\ /, \ .\\-. \=-O \ )__\ //\__::_) /__\\ \ \ \___\-)_____/-----.,/( )\\ ) \' /____/ \ \ / \\ / (o__/-----+ | /\\ '':O:-''\__) ' |\ / \\ | ' \_|, \ / ( \\ / \_| / o)____,/ / \\ / / | (__/ | | / \) ( /--| /. \ (\ (_ `----,( ( _\ \ / / ,/ | / /,_/,/ __ _|/_______ / / (__ / / ( ^-/, | \ / /, | ^-' \ / ^-' \ /___________________________\ |___________________________| | | | ___________________ | | | | | | | | | | | S P U N K | | | | 1 1 1 1 | | | | | | | | | | | |___________________| | | | /|__________________b'ger|\ /___________________________\ |___________________________| -joan -- , _ {`--. { \/`o;====- {:}'-.}>, joan stark .----'-/`-/ {.--' )) _ mailto:spu...@juno.com `'-..-| / __ // /_/ /\/\ \_\_((_/___ ASCII ART GALLERY: jgs `--` )) \_\ http://www.ascii-art.com
Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >The Official FAQ of alt.ascii-art >================================= > \\\\`/// > / _ _| 1. Thou shalt read the FAQ. > (\'('\/') 2. Thou shalt remove initials > ______/( >(__ from any ASCII art. > /`- \ \_=__| `\ 3. Thou shalt claim ownership > / /__( _____\ _____ of anyone else's ASCII art. > /_ \.____ ," "." ",__ 4. Thou shalt read the FAQ. >| / _\__/_ - / \ 5. Thou shalt not ask permission >\/ /____ \ASCII ART FAQ /// before using anyone else's > ) / / \__\ - | ASCII art. > '-.__|_/ ///| I VI | 6. Thou shalt sell anyone > \_ | | | else's ASCII art. > | | II VII | 7. Thou shalt read the darn FAQ. > \ | | | 8. Thou shalt post anyone else's > / | III VIII | ASCII art without making > \ | | | clear that you didn't make it. > \_ | IV IX | 9. Thou shalt assume that > \| | | ASCII art isn't art at all. > | V X | 10. Thou shalt read the FAQing FAQ. > |______b'ger______| Mr. P. Casso has posted a series of deliberate distortions and misrpresentatons of the text and title of "The Ascii Art FAQ Ten Commandments FAQ" to this newsgroup alt.ascii-art. Mr. Casso has also miscredited the original author Joris Bellenger (b'ger) and replaced Mr. Bellenger's name with my initals "cfbd". To reduce any confusion, especially in new or inexperienced readers of alt.ascii-art newsgroup, about these deliberate FAQ distortions by Mr. Casso the correct version and title of the FAQ is given below: ============================================================================ -------The ASCII ART FAQ Ten Commandments.--------- \\\\`/// / _ _| 1/ Thou shalt read the FAQ. (\'('\/') 2/ Thou shalt not remove the ______/( >(__ Signature from any ASCII ART. /`- \ \_=__| `\ 3/ Thou shalt not claim the Ownership / /__( _____\ _____ of someone else's ASCII ART. /_ \.____ ," "." ",__ 4/ Thou shalt read the FAQ. | / _\__/_ - / \ 5/ Thou shalt ask permission \/ /____ \ASCII ART FAQ /// before using Someone else's ) / / \__\ - | ASCII ART. '-.__|_/ ///| I VI | 6/ Thou shalt not sell Someone \_ | | | else's ASCII ART. | | II VII | 7/ Thou shalt read the darn FAQ. \ | | | 8/ Thou shalt not post / | III VIII | unaccredited ASCII ART without \ | | | mentioning that you didn't make it. \_ | IV IX | 9/ Thou shalt not assume that \| | | ASCII ART isn't ART at all. | V X | 10/ Thou shalt read the FAQing FAQ. |______b'ger______| a copy of the FAQ can be found at: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373/faq.htm tutorials also available there! ============================================================================ Bye,
Hi i'm new to this newsgroup, I gave up on a few others because of their
continual arguing, now it's happening here.Guess i'll be UNsubscribing to
this one next.
slan agat
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Pete Casso wrote: > > Spunkystein's laments along the lines of "that's the only reward the ascii > artist gets" is not effective, people continue committing copyright > infringements on her pics, even Colinstein does it. > > More effective is to make clear to perpetrators that they are committing acts > of piracy, vandalism and theft of intellectual property. If a simple reminder > does not work, then inflict acts of piracy, vandalism and theft upon the > perpetrator's own pics. > > In other words, I am not going to spend time on second reminders. I encourage > everyone to do the same. I don't know what yer's yappin' about puppy, your so-called 'intellectual property' consists of three, maybe four up to 12 character things. You're better known for your pitbull-attitude in useless arguments and your 'always-have-the-last-word'. If you're here only for discussion's sake, then move on to some muslim newsgroup and start praising Salman Rushdie or something... ^,..' Yap! Yap! Yap! / .Y) ( v \"' ||| "\_), ]|[,- (' Intellectual property perpetrators committing infringements effective Studying to become a lawyer boy? Then remember that lawyers and sperm-cells have one thing in commmon. A one in two million chance of becoming a human being. To everybody else, hey, if you feel better replacing 'Ojo' with your own initials, fine, you can't fool me and you can't fool yourself. Next one is to keep this threat alive... ,-' . : .#._,-') Pete Casso is a `#:_(`, : . .--' .(__.-`-.: : (___.-")_) ...Ojoshiro. -- ____ Time : Tue Oct 6 10:25:03 1998 .X+. . .Xx+-. . If "everybody knows" such-and-such, then it ain't so, by XXx++-.. at least ten thousand to one. Lazarus Long (142) XXxx++--.. `XXXxx+++--' `XXXxxx' ""
Tweeter wrote: > > On or about4 Oct 1998 18:17:47 GMT, spu...@aol.com (Spunk1111) said > somethin' like > > >> Ah, you plan on acting like an immature fool > >> some more? > > (Psssst... he's not acting) > > Tweeter > Just one little speaker Not acting??? Ghee... (Yes, me undercover =) -- ____ Time : Tue Oct 6 10:25:04 1998 .X+. . .Xx+-. . The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever XXx++-.. dreamed up is that the Lord God of Creation, Shaper and XXxx++--.. Ruler of all the Universes, wants the saccharine `XXXxx+++--' adoration of His creatures, can be swayed by their `XXXxxx' prayers, and becomes petulant if He does not receive this "" flattery. Yet this absurd fantasy, without a shred of evidence to bolster it, pays all the expenses of the oldest, largest, and least productive industry in all history. Lazarus Long (69)
On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, A.Tew wrote: > Hi i'm new to this newsgroup, I gave up on a few others because of their > continual arguing, now it's happening here.Guess i'll be UNsubscribing to > this one next. Hi, I have been here for quite a while. When I found this place I arrived in the middle of a 'stein war (albeit smaller than this one). After a short while it settled down to being 80% ascii-art again. I advise you to stick around for a bit longer as there are some extremely talented artists here : b'ger jgs llizard cfbd ojosh!ro flump mik Lennert stock Veronica Karllson to name just a few. (sorry to anyone else I missed off) Joan has just started reposting other peoples work, which are very nice pieces. I hope it calms down here soon. Phil > > slan agat > > > __ __________ > / ) / > /--/ -/ _ , , , > _/ (o (_/ </_(_(_/_ > =========================== __/\__ > /..\ > > > > Phil -- Philip Powell |)| '|' ccx...@coventry.ac.uk | |)||||) || Computing Services |()(,)(>|| Coventry University ~
A.Tew <sfj...@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us> wrote: >Hi i'm new to this newsgroup, I gave up on a few others because of their >continual arguing, now it's happening here.Guess i'll be UNsubscribing to >this one next. Yep, it seems to happen in most newsgroups at times...some worse than others, and it is entirely each reader's privilege to subscribe and to unsubscribe at any time...nothing is compulsory on the Net. I have subscribed ever since this group was created in September 1993 and it goes through these flamewars periodically. My choice is to stay and to ride these things out...not very enjoyable at times. Actually right now we are not just arguing. There are some very important principles at stake here now involving deliberate distortion of newsgroup FAQ documents and the deliberate alteration of names and initials on ascii pictures and accrediting them falsely. Argument is the wrong word to use for such undesirable activities. Bye,
On Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:00:51 +0100, Phil <ccx...@coventry.ac.uk> wrote: >I hope it calms down here soon. >Phil __ _ __ __ _ __ ___ /__\ | |_ / / /\ \ \ ___ | '_ ` _ \ /_\ | __| \ \/ \/ / / _ \ | | | | | | //__ | |_ \ /\ / | (_) | |_| |_| |_| \__/ \__| \/ \/ \___/ *8-)
Colin Douthwaite wrote: > > On Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:00:51 +0100, Phil <ccx...@coventry.ac.uk> wrote: > > >I hope it calms down here soon. > > >Phil > > __ _ __ __ > _ __ ___ /__\ | |_ / / /\ \ \ ___ > | '_ ` _ \ /_\ | __| \ \/ \/ / / _ \ > | | | | | | //__ | |_ \ /\ / | (_) | > |_| |_| |_| \__/ \__| \/ \/ \___/ > > me 2 ========================================================= [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] =========================================================
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