Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 30 Sep 1998.
Encouraging ascii art piracy
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· 15 messages · 30 Sep 1998 - 4 Oct 1998
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Recent postings from Colin, Phil and Ojoshiro have again showed that some
people in the ascii art community lack the notion of intellectual property. Of
course, I think that this notion should be cultivated, but perhaps I am wrong?
Perhaps it is better to encourage ascii art piracy, if people lack the notion
of intellectual property anyway? In that case, stripping off initials is
enough modification of the artwork to claim it as one's own, see example below.
__ __ .--.
( ""--__( ""-_ ,' .-.\ *
"-_ __ ""--__ "-_( (^_^)) /
( """--___""--__" )-'( /
"-__ ""---/ ,(., )__o-/,
"""----___(.'. /--"--'
("-_"/( /
\ \ \
`. \ |
\ \/
|| \
,-'/`. \
) / ) \ by Philip Powell
|/ `-.\ no credits to Ojo, who is he anyway ...
`\
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[] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! []
[] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ []
[] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes []
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Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Recent postings from Colin, Phil and Ojoshiro have again showed that some > people in the ascii art community lack the notion of intellectual property. Of > course, I think that this notion should be cultivated, but perhaps I am wrong? Pete et al., although I'm quite new here, and I don't want to interfere with other things... here are my two pence: People like Ojoshiro have made some parodies with your Steins. And quite a few of them were even funny... That's why they are parodies. Parodies btw do not infringe copyrights if I'm informed correctly. Now please enjoy it while it lasts, and please go on posting your own very humorous cartoons! And to all of you: please, stop the flaming... I happen to like this group without it ;) -- GoofY
Colin Douthwaite wrote: > > Spunk1111 <spu...@aol.com> wrote: > > >>Message-id: <361...@sympatico.ca> > > >Pete-- stop being such a jerk and Simply stop being... > >leave initials alone on these ASCII pics. > > >The pic w/proper credits. Well, I won't use the 8-char creation of Kid Casso anymore. It's all he ever created, no wonder he's so bitchy about it. I never saw him do anything else but some frames and a couple of 8- to 12-char 'steins' (probably claimed by him aswell, though the Germans have been drinking from them for centuries) and some 'witty' remarks. Can anybody tell me who this Powell-guy is? I've never seen him do ASC11-art before. Back to business. ---------------------------------,-.._-------------------------------------- File: MilInt Date: 10/30 / Top ""-.._ IN THE ARMY NOW ._ ._ ._ ._ -------------------------------(_Secret )----------------{\){\){\){\)--- ""-.._ 2/ /n`/n`/n`/n` ""-' ___,--. ( Send somebody after ) _( _ ) `-, that Powell guy. ) ^^ _,-(_ ' ) .' / `----------------' (_____________) _____[Mil.Int.HQ]_______ ,) =======================| | ) ___ _________ ____ | ,`_\ __] | | | [__] |____( ' ))__________________________________________ | |[_]|[_]| | | |-|-(_, .)----|-------.----|------------|---------- === | | | ==== |_|___`Y--'_____|____________|____________|__________ |___|___| | ` I " " ' ======================== . Oo .:o ` ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________/ Ojoshiro /""""""""""""" Cast: ( in no particular order ) General Mayhem Leslie Nilesen Major Disaster Richard Pirro Private Parts Gene Redliw Major Asshole Mel Skoorb Old lady #1 Madanno Old lady #2 Dianne Warhead Russian General Jeroen Bekbra Spy Christopher Kalwen Credits: Pete Casso the open and close bracket (Which is after all 2/8 of his 'frog-blob'). Spunk1111 The 'S' and 's'. Powell For the use of his name. Whoever he may be. other artists who have undoubtedly done fences, clouds and birds flying. the US army For Military Intelligence (If such a thing exists). Microsoft For the font you view it with (Not me, Linux) Netscape For the mailer. Soundtrack: Symphony of Destruction Megadeth. EMI. War (what is it good for) Laibach. STUMM. Aaaaargh! Venom. Neat Records. Every person used in this comic is fictional. Any similarities between persons in this comic and real life people is purely coincidence. Ojoshiro takes no responsibilities for the poor sod that has a face that looks like '}'. Complaints should be directed to Sirius Foundation. Please allow 500 ys for delivery. Global Illustrations. ___ .-,-'-|-`-.-. (--{----|----}--) `-`-.-|-,-'-' """ Ojosh!ro. C1998 -- ____ Time : Thu Oct 1 11:39:12 1998 .X+. . .Xx+-. . An elephant: A mouse built to government specifications. XXx++-.. Lazarus Long (43) XXxx++--.. `XXXxx+++--' `XXXxxx' ""
> Global Illustrations. > ___ > .-,-'-|-`-.-. > (--{----|----}--) > `-`-.-|-,-'-' > """ Ojosh!ro. > C1998 Based on the MPAA logo? pretty good :) btw, the date sould read: Here's a slight diddle: Global Illustrations ___ _.-,-'-|-`-.-._ (--{---OJO---}--) ~`-`-.-|-,-'-'~ ~~~ (C) MCMLXXXXVIII You're supposed to use roman numerals at the end, everyone knows that! :-) -- ___________________________________________________________________ | . . | * http://www2.southwind.net/~natedac/ * | | _ _ _|_ _ _| _ _ |-----------------------------------------| | |/ \`_| | /_)/ |`_|/ ` | GCS d- s++:++ a-- C++ UB>++ P+ L>++ !E | | | |(_| \_ \_ \_|(_|\__ | W++ N++ K- w--- M- V? PS PE Y+ PGP- t++ | | at southwind dot net | 5 X+ R tv@ b+ DI(++) D+ G++ e+ h+ r- y- | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ojosh!ro <ojo...@lunatech.com> wrote: > Can anybody tell me who this Powell-guy is? I've never seen him do > ASC11-art before. Philip Powell is in Coventry, UK. His self-portrait is in the Artist Gallery. Among other things, Philip is known for his pictures of knights on horseback with long lances...sometimes used for toasting marshmallows which appear to be moulded in the shape of a well-known copyrighted Frog which can no longer be posted or reposted in a public channel...so I cannot include the toasted marshmallow pics. Before the copyright ban I recall that they earned a Stein Award. From the Gallery: .__________________________. | ,.., | | ,-'" "'-,_ | | /" _,.-';"'\ | | ; /" "L ) | | |_._._J \| | | ('-._.-._ _.-._.-') | | |( (,-o-,)'(,-o-,) )| | | \ """;J L """ / | | | ,;(,_,) | | | L _._.,._._ J | | \. "-._.-" ./ | | ; \ / ; | | _.("\ '--.--' / ")._ | |'" \ \ / / "'| | '-.\..__../.-' PjP | '""""""""""""""""""""""""""' Philip Powell Bye,
>Message-id: <361...@sympatico.ca> Pete-- stop being such a jerk and leave initials alone on these ASCII pics. The pic w/proper credits. > > __ __ .--. >( ""--__( ""-_ ,' .-.\ * > "-_ __ ""--__ "-_( (^_^)) / > ( """--___""--__" )-'( / > "-__ ""---/ ,(., )__o-/, > """----___(.'. /--"--' > ("-_"/( / > \ \ \ > `. \ | > \ \/ > || \ > ,-'/`. \ > ) / ) \ Ojo > |/ `-.\ pete c-ASS-o, (that *IS* the correct spelling, right?) -joan -- , ; , .-'"""'-. , ; , \\|/ .' '. \|// joan stark \-;-/ () () \-;-/ spu...@juno.com // ; ; \\ //__; :. .; ;__\\ ASCII ART GALLERY: `-----\'.'-.....-'.'/-----' http://www.ascii-art.com/ '.'.-.-,_.'.' jgs '( (..-' '-'
> > __ __ .--. > >( ""--__( ""-_ ,' .-.\ * > > "-_ __ ""--__ "-_( (^_^)) / > > ( """--___""--__" )-'( / > > "-__ ""---/ ,(., )__o-/, > > """----___(.'. /--"--' > > ("-_"/( / > > \ \ \ > > `. \ | > > \ \/ > > || \ > > ,-'/`. \ > > ) / ) \ jgs > > |/ `-.\ > > pete c-ASS-o, > (that *IS* the correct spelling, right?) Dear Spunk-ASS-stein, I am merely explaining intellectual ownership to a couple of people here. That will benefit you too! ========================================================= [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] =========================================================
Spunk1111 <spu...@aol.com> wrote: >>Message-id: <361...@sympatico.ca> >Pete-- stop being such a jerk and >leave initials alone on these ASCII pics. >The pic w/proper credits. >> >> __ __ .--. >>( ""--__( ""-_ ,' .-.\ * >> "-_ __ ""--__ "-_( (^_^)) / >> ( """--___""--__" )-'( / >> "-__ ""---/ ,(., )__o-/, >> """----___(.'. /--"--' >> ("-_"/( / >> \ \ \ >> `. \ | >> \ \/ >> || \ >> ,-'/`. \ >> ) / ) \ Ojo >> |/ `-.\ Hmm...it may be that same "cut and copy" problem that seems to be experienced by other users of HTML-oriented editors? Sarah Day wrote recently: >Of course there are people who accidentally get the initials left >out when their *$@%#&^*@#!!! cut and copy won't work... However, in his latest 4 postings about credits, Pete seems to have got completely confused about those pictures; who actually posted them; and who originally made or diddled them. I think he has exhausted himself by the stream of long Verbal Diarrhoea Essays and Debates about Ascii and Codes and RFC Documents. Pete certainly does not exhibit the stamina or the intellect of Archimedes Plutonium and his "Pu Whole Atom Theory of The Universe", although he and Pete seem to have something in common. Here is Archimedes Plutonium's 94th Electron of 231PU which I think he claims contains The Universe as we know it: 94th ELECTRON OF 231PU Very crude dot picture of 5f6, 94TH ELECTRON \ ::| :./. .\::|::/.: _ _ (:Y:) - - ::/.|.\.: :: /.:| :\.: / | \. LP Bye,
On Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:48:23 -0500, Nate / DAC <nat...@southwind.net> wrote: [snip] > Global Illustrations > ___ > _.-,-'-|-`-.-._ > (--{---OJO---}--) > ~`-`-.-|-,-'-'~ > ~~~ > (C) MCMLXXXXVIII > >You're supposed to use roman numerals at the end, everyone knows that! :-) Hmm, BBC uses MCMXCVIII. Also MXMVIII has been proposed. But than of course I'd rather use MVMIII. On many US TV series they do use 1998. Probably because the viewers wouldn't understand. But then again, the viewers couldn't care less, so it must be a legal thing. -------------------------------------------- To reply by mail: change the digits to consu --------------------------------------------
Johan de Koning wrote: > > [Nate / DAC wrote:] >... > > (C) MCMLXXXXVIII > > > > You're supposed to use roman numerals at the end, everyone knows > > that! :-) > > Hmm, BBC uses MCMXCVIII. > Also MXMVIII has been proposed. > But than of course I'd rather use MVMIII. Erhm, the rule for Roman numerals goes thusly: when putting a smaller unit before a larger one, you are only allowed to use the next unit down, and not one smaller than that. Roman value Arabic left For example: 1999. - 1999 To start, we do the 1000: M 999 We're left with 999. Are we allowed to do IM? No, because I isn't the next unit down from M -- C is. So we add 900, CM. MCM 99 Ok, 99 to go. Are we allowed to do IC? No, because I isn't the next unit down from C -- X is. So we add 90, XC. MCMXC 9 Finally, 9 to go: add IX. MCMXCIX 0 Finished. I'm sure Martin Atkins could come up with some super tool for converting from Arabic to Roman and back again ... then again, it's probably built in to emacs somewhere (everything usually is). > On many US TV series they do use 1998. > Probably because the viewers wouldn't understand. I think that says a lot about US TV viewers, myself. > But then again, the viewers couldn't care less, > so it must be a legal thing. A legal thing? Why? -- .._o Matthew Thomas (mpt26 @ student . canterbury . ac . nz) ..://\/ http://cantua.canterbury.ac.nz/~mpt26/ (Site for sore eyes) ..:_/\ Read my column in NewsRoom (http://www.newsroom.co.nz/) ..:/ Those damn succubi!
Nate / DAC wrote: [SNIP] > Based on the MPAA logo? pretty good :) Thx! > btw, the date sould read: > > Here's a slight diddle: [SNAP] > You're supposed to use roman numerals at the end, everyone knows that! :-) Hmmm, most of the time I'm already with my back to the silver screen when the credits-disclaimer runs out... Roman numerals? Hehehehe, there aren't that many romans around anymore =) Ojoshiro. -- ____ Time : Fri Oct 2 11:12:26 1998 .X+. . .Xx+-. . One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. XXx++-.. "Supernatural" is a null word. Lazarus Long (90) XXxx++--.. `XXXxx+++--' `XXXxxx' ""
Colin Douthwaite wrote: > > Ojosh!ro <ojo...@lunatech.com> wrote: > > > Can anybody tell me who this Powell-guy is? I've never seen him do > > ASC11-art before. > > Philip Powell is in Coventry, UK. His self-portrait is in the Artist > Gallery. > > Among other things, Philip is known for his pictures of knights on > horseback with long lances...sometimes used for toasting > marshmallows which appear to be moulded in the shape of a well-known > copyrighted Frog which can no longer be posted or reposted in a > public channel...so I cannot include the toasted marshmallow pics. > > Before the copyright ban I recall that they earned a Stein Award. > > From the Gallery: > > .__________________________. > | ,.., | > | ,-'" "'-,_ | > | /" _,.-';"'\ | > | ; /" "L ) | > | |_._._J \| | > | ('-._.-._ _.-._.-') | > | |( (,-o-,)'(,-o-,) )| | > | \ """;J L """ / | > | | ,;(,_,) | | > | L _._.,._._ J | > | \. "-._.-" ./ | > | ; \ / ; | > | _.("\ '--.--' / ")._ | > |'" \ \ / / "'| > | '-.\..__../.-' PjP | > '""""""""""""""""""""""""""' > Philip Powell > > Bye, I apologize, and like I said, I thought of Philip as Phil... The coin didn't drop untill he wrote me... So, please accept apologies, Sorry Philip! (,- )/ | These are rabbits (o> ( ) | NOT, I repeat NOT o( ,) ( o) | 'steins'. -------------' Probably done by somebody else before. If so, I redrew them, claim no copyrights and simlpy didn't care to look them up... Ojoshiro. -- ____ Time : Fri Oct 2 11:42:58 1998 .X+. . .Xx+-. . Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully XXx++-.. human. At best he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned XXxx++--.. to wear shoes, bathe, and not make messes in the house. `XXXxx+++--' Lazarus Long (62) `XXXxxx' ""
On Fri, 02 Oct 1998 20:01:11 +1200, Matthew Thomas <mpt...@spamfree.land> wrote: > >> On many US TV series they do use 1998. >> Probably because the viewers wouldn't understand. > >I think that says a lot about US TV viewers, myself. Heh.. I actually think that (A) It's more a matter of caring than understanding (B) With the exception of film copyright dates and figuring out which Rocky movie you're watching, Roman numerals are a fairly useless art.
On Fri, 02 Oct 1998 20:01:11 +1200, Matthew Thomas <mpt...@spamfree.land> wrote: >... >Erhm, the rule for Roman numerals goes thusly: when putting a smaller >unit before a larger one, you are only allowed to use the next unit >down, and not one smaller than that. Sure, that rules out MXM. But then again, what is 1 unit down, eg 450 = LD or CCCCL, 490 = XD or LDXXXX or CCCCXC ? >... >> But then again, the viewers couldn't care less, >> so it must be a legal thing. > >A legal thing? Why? Because lawyers wouldn't understand. Wrong newsgroup, right? When in Rome, do as the Turkeys :-) -------------------------------------------- To reply by mail: change the digits to consu --------------------------------------------
Johan de Koning (k.i...@12345net.nl) wrote: : Sure, that rules out MXM. : But then again, what is 1 unit down, eg : 450 = LD or CCCCL, : 490 = XD or LDXXXX or CCCCXC ? Both wrong. 450 = CDL, 490 = CDXC. Although the Romans themselves weren't particularly consistent about abbreviating sequences of four identical characters, so 490 could also be CCCCXC, CDLXXXX or even CCCCLXXXX. The easiest way to understand it is to realize that you can separate any roman numeral into digits: 1998 = M DM LC VIII. Each digit has the same form as the lowest, (1=I, 2=II, 3=III, 4=IV, 5=V, 6=VI, 7=VII, 8=VIII, 9=IX) only the letters used vary between the groups. Of course there's no letter for 5000, so the largest number that can be represented like this is 3999 = MMMDMLCIX. (How's that for a year4k bug?) Another way to do it is using a two-pass process, first creating an expanded number by starting with M, putting as many (0-4) of them as fit in the number, then moving to the next lower letter. The second pass consists of replacing each AAAA with AB, where B=5*A, and then each BAB with AC, where C=10*A.
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