Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 30 Sep 2000.
Trying to keep text centered
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· 11 messages · 30 Sep 2000 - 3 Oct 2000
"Anita Doobie - NOW" <ton...@aol.completely> wrote > When you want to take control of your spaces in a text document you need > to use a MONOSPACED FONT like COURIER NEW, or TERMINAL or TOPAZ NEW. A > monospaced font will allow you to control spacing between words instead of > adjusting the spaces automatically the way most other TrueType fonts are > manipulated. A monospaced font works exactly like a typewriter, one letter and > character per space. This is why monospaced fonts are used with ASCII, we can > control the position of the characters. > When you are creating a new document, switch to a mono font immediately > before typing anything. If you import the document to another application that > uses another font on you, highlight all of the text and then select one of the > mono fonts. > If it is impossible to change fonts, you'll have to do it manually and > have several copies of the same document in different fonts. > Removing WORD WRAP would help, this means you would have to use a ENTER at > the end of each line instead of letting the text go to the next line by itself > would help (word wrapping). What about others who open my texts on another computer. Will everything I did go awry? I know what happens when you unenable word wrap, but I don't understand the benefit. Please explain. Also, will it do any good when people on other computers open it? Regards, Bryan
Any tutorials out there for text only projects? Not "art" per se, but just things like spacing and centering, etc. It seems that every application shifts my texts around whenever I try to create a certain number of spaces between words. Thank you Bryan
On Sat, 30 Sep 2000 13:30:13 -0400, "bam" <ba...@digital.net> wrote: >It seems that every application shifts my texts around whenever I try to >create a certain number of spaces between words. Well, it sounds like you have Word Wrap on. Go into Edit, and see if there's a check beside it. If there is, click on it to take it off. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- |\_/| D\___/\ ____ -nt (0_0) (0_o) /| )_ _ _ / / '__/_ _ ==(Y)== (V) / |/(-_) _) ( /)// /(-(-/) .------------(u)---(u)--------oOo--U--oOo---------------------------. |___|_______|________|_______|_______|_______|______|_______|_______| | | | | Kyle Matthews | "I don't suffer from insanity, | | Beginner ASCII Artist | I enjoy every minute of it!" ;) | | nes...@hotmail.com |_________________________________| | ICQ: 62825278 | Infiniti Entertainment | | AIM: NessThirteen | www.i-e.com (soon-to-be Domain) | '-------------------------------------------------------------------' My DNA and genetic structure is copyright 1987-2000 Kyle Matthews ALL RIGHTS RESERVED Unauthorized use, duplication, storage or retransmission is strictly prohibited. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Subject: Trying to keep text centered >From: "bam" ba...@digital.net >Date: 9/30/00 1:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time >Message-id: <stc...@corp.supernews.com> > >Any tutorials out there for text only projects? > >Not "art" per se, but just things like spacing and centering, etc. > >It seems that every application shifts my texts around whenever I try to >create a certain number of spaces between words. > >Thank you > >Bryan When you want to take control of your spaces in a text document you need to use a MONOSPACED FONT like COURIER NEW, or TERMINAL or TOPAZ NEW. A monospaced font will allow you to control spacing between words instead of adjusting the spaces automatically the way most other TrueType fonts are manipulated. A monospaced font works exactly like a typewriter, one letter and character per space. This is why monospaced fonts are used with ASCII, we can control the position of the characters. When you are creating a new document, switch to a mono font immediately before typing anything. If you import the document to another application that uses another font on you, highlight all of the text and then select one of the mono fonts. If it is impossible to change fonts, you'll have to do it manually and have several copies of the same document in different fonts. Removing WORD WRAP would help, this means you would have to use a ENTER at the end of each line instead of letting the text go to the next line by itself would help (word wrapping). -- I am the one you warned me of. - BOC - Imaginos
"NessThirteen" <nes...@hotmail.com> > Well, it sounds like you have Word Wrap on. Go into Edit, and see if there's a > check beside it. If there is, click on it to take it off. > Thank you - see my next post. Bryan
bam <ba...@digital.net> wrote: > "Anita Doobie - NOW" <ton...@aol.completely> wrote > > > Removing WORD WRAP would help, this means you would have to use a > > ENTER at the end of each line instead of letting the text go to the next > > line by itself > would help (word wrapping). > > > What about others who open my texts on another computer. Will everything I > did go awry? depends on what preferences they choose... if they don't use a monospace font you don't stand a chance :/ > I know what happens when you unenable word wrap, but I don't understand the > benefit. Please explain. Also, will it do any good when people on other > computers open it? well, there's no standard word wrap lenght [although in email clients 72 and 80 chars are often used] so you won't know exactly what line-lenght the reader has set in his preferences... therefore it will be very difficult [if not impossible] to get some textpassages aligned.. on the other hand if you go by hard line-breaks [i.e. enter or return] you'll know exactly where the center and right border is going to be... just make sure you choose a short lenght [less than 60 chars should do] because otherwise your text will look really ugly to somebody which has a shorter word wrap setting... the downside of hard returns is that it's a pain if you have to do corrections as all of the lines below will get affected... the best solution i can think of is to use an editor where you can set the word wrap to a fixed lenght [i.e. 60 chars] and that let's you hard-wrap the text in the end... - and unwrap again if you want to write additions... bbedit by barebones is a great text editor that does exactly that [and more]... unfortunately it's only for mac [or was?] but i'm sure there's a bunch of windows editors that do the same... hope that helped ++ christoph ++ ______________________________________________________________________ ++ for direct responses use <zemfilms *at* crosswinds *dot* net> ++
Anita Doobie - NOW wrote: > > >Subject: Trying to keep text centered > >From: "bam" ba...@digital.net > >Date: 9/30/00 1:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time > >Message-id: <stc...@corp.supernews.com> > > > >Any tutorials out there for text only projects? > > > >Not "art" per se, but just things like spacing and centering, etc. > > > >It seems that every application shifts my texts around whenever I try to > >create a certain number of spaces between words. > > > >Thank you > > > >Bryan > > When you want to take control of your spaces in a text document you need > to use a MONOSPACED FONT like COURIER NEW, or TERMINAL or TOPAZ NEW. A > monospaced font will allow you to control spacing between words instead of > adjusting the spaces automatically the way most other TrueType fonts are > manipulated. A monospaced font works exactly like a typewriter, one letter and > character per space. This is why monospaced fonts are used with ASCII, we can > control the position of the characters. > When you are creating a new document, switch to a mono font immediately > before typing anything. If you import the document to another application that > uses another font on you, highlight all of the text and then select one of the > mono fonts. > If it is impossible to change fonts, you'll have to do it manually and > have several copies of the same document in different fonts. > Removing WORD WRAP would help, this means you would have to use a ENTER at > the end of each line instead of letting the text go to the next line by itself > would help (word wrapping). AND..................N E V E R,,,,,,,E V E R....... use tabs........ -- |"""""<`.THE PRINCE ,'>"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""| | `.`/""""""\,',' my sig is too big, | |SEE HIS ( / \ \' SEE HIS but its really cool. | | FACE \/<> <>\/ SMILE | | / W \ Visit my ascii art site: | | ,'\_|||||_/`. http://www.gtcom.net/~krogg/ascii/ | | ,',' ||| `.`. kro...@gtcom.net | |____<,' TIME TO DIE `.>____Remove no.to.spam to reply____|
>bbedit by barebones is a great text editor that does exactly that [and >more]... unfortunately it's only for mac [or was?] but i'm sure there's >a bunch of windows editors that do the same... A DOS program that works fine in Windows is QEdit, which word wraps in the editor itself, but saves to pure ASCII without wordwrapping in the file. In the end, it all comes down to editing. There is no simple way of getting around it, and it needs to be done from time to time. If you are using a particular font for your document, and wish the reader to get the same effect you do with it, you'll just have to put that in the beginning of the file. BTW: I meant to say FIXED-WIDTH FONT instead of MONOSPACED FONT in my first post. I think. :) ObASCII: _____,,,\//,,\\,/, /-- --- --- ----- ///--- --- -- - ---- o////- ---- --- -- !!//o/--- -- -- o*) !///,~,,\\,\/,,/,//,, o!*!o'(\ /\ | ! o ",) \/\ /\ / \/\ o !o! !!| \/ \/ / ( * ( o!'; |\ ` / o o ! * !` | \ , \ o | o 'o| | : ` / * o !*!': |[| , / (o''| `| : , / ! *|'` \|, \ ' !o!':\ \` \ ( ('| '\ `--------/ !*!' '`---------/ o ! * ! ' ` / !o!' ' ` / ( !'( ' ` \ ////\\\,,\///,,,,\,/oO._* o !*!' ' \ ---- -- ------- - -oO*OoOo (o''| ' / -------- ------ 'oO*OoO!*|'o!! ' \ ------- -- - ---- --* oO*OoO *!'| ' ' / --- - ----- ---- - oO*OoO!!':o!' / - - ----- - -- - *--oO*OoOo!`_________/ \\\\\,,,\\,//////,\,,\\\/,,,\,,ejm/AMC -- I am the one you warned me of. - BOC - Imaginos
"christoph manz" <zem...@usa.net> wrote > depends on what preferences they choose... if they don't use a monospace > font you don't stand a chance :/ And who does these days? > well, there's no standard word wrap lenght [although in email clients 72 > and 80 chars are often used] so you won't know exactly what line-lenght > the reader has set in his preferences... therefore it will be very > difficult [if not impossible] to get some textpassages aligned.. Dat's what I was afeared of. > on the other hand if you go by hard line-breaks [i.e. enter or return] > you'll know exactly where the center and right border is going to be... > just make sure you choose a short lenght [less than 60 chars should do] > because otherwise your text will look really ugly to somebody which has > a shorter word wrap setting... > > the downside of hard returns is that it's a pain if you have to do > corrections as all of the lines below will get affected... > > the best solution i can think of is to use an editor where you can set > the word wrap to a fixed lenght [i.e. 60 chars] and that let's you > hard-wrap the text in the end... - and unwrap again if you want to write > additions... Thanks - I'll save this part. I think it's the only solution (if there's any at all). > bbedit by barebones is a great text editor that does exactly that [and > more]... unfortunately it's only for mac [or was?] but i'm sure there's > a bunch of windows editors that do the same... Thanks - I'll look around. Bryan
"Anita Doobie wrote - > In the end, it all comes down to editing. There is no simple way of > getting around it, and it needs to be done from time to time. If you are using > a particular font for your document, and wish the reader to get the same effect > you do with it, you'll just have to put that in the beginning of the file. Except many don't like reading *or* following instructions, and the rest don't know what you're talking about. > > BTW: I meant to say FIXED-WIDTH FONT instead of MONOSPACED FONT in my first > post. I think. :) Yeah, yeah...I knew dat. :[ Bryan
Anita Doobie - NOW wrote: > BTW: I meant to say FIXED-WIDTH FONT instead of MONOSPACED FONT in my first > post. I think. :) Same thing. :) -- (, http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/cgi/asciichat/ /|__--__ . __--__ |\ '__ /|\ _{ _ `.' / `.,_ _________ | _________ _,.' (/ `. / ||``._.' ASCII ART CHAT! `---'|:||,/ .' /| /|:| \ .' /\ \ __ __ _ `/|'\' ` `,/ /`,\ \ \ / /__ _ _ ___ _ _ (_)__ __ _ /,'\ \ .'.' /| \ V / -_) '_/ _ \ ' \| / _/ _` | |\ `.`. ,' / / | \_/\___|_| \___/_||_|_\__\__,_| | \ \ `, - `- -- `-'- -ejm-------------------------------------VK-- -`-' -- -' -
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