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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 26 Nov 2001.
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a question about textual shaping

a question about textual shaping

alt.ascii-art · 7 messages · 26 Nov 2001 - 1 Dec 2001
Kevan wrote:
> 
> Please, what is it called when you have a piece of written work shaped like
> something? For example, you might have a poem about an old vase, and the shape
> of the poem illustrates a vase. I think I recall seeing a camel somewhat like
> that here, as well.
> 
> Also, are there any tools that would help you make such a construct?

Hi Kevan,

The feature you are talking about will be available in the very next
release of my freeware program JavE (I will name the tool "camelizer").
Unfortunately this will still take a week or so, although I am working
very hard to finish it as soon as possible.
If you do not want to wait so long and do not find any other tools, you
can post the text and an image for the shape to me, and I can try to do
the conversion for you. The conversion runs automatically and there are
only three options for configuration. As an example I have taken the
text from this message and shaped it to a ring:

1) "Raw Text": (still have to figure out good names for the options)
               Thefeatureyoua
           retalkingaboutwillbeav
        ailableintheverynextreleaseo
      fmyfreewareprogramJavE(Iwillname
    it"camelizer"          ).Unfortunate
   lythiswills                tilltakeawe
  ekorso,alt                    houghIamwo
 rkingvery                        hardtofin
 ishitass                          oonaspos
sible.Ify                          oudonotwa
nttowait                            solongan
ddonotfin                           danyothe
rtools,yo                          ucanpostt
 hetextand                         theimage
 fortheshap                      etome,andI
  cantrytodo                    theconvers
   ionforyou.T                heconversio
    nrunsautoimati        callyandtherea
      reonlythreeoptionsforconfigurati
         on.AsanexampleIhavetakenthe
            textfromthismessagean
                 dshapedit:

2) "Preserve spaces":
                 The feature you
              are talking about will
          be available in the very next
        release of my freeware program Jav
      E (I will name it "camelizer"). Unfor
    tunately this                will still t
   ake a week                     or so, altho
  ugh I am wo                       rking very
 hard to fi                          nish it as
 soon as po                           ssible. If
 you do no                             t want to
 wait so l                             ong and do
 not find                              any other
tools, you                              can post
  the text                            and the im
 age for the                          shape to
  me, and I c                       an try to d
   o the conver                   sion for you
    . The conversio           n runs autoima
      tically and there are only three opti
        ons for configuration. As an exam
          ple I have taken the text fr
              om this message and s
                    haped it:

3) "Preserve Words":
                     :::The::::
               feature:::::you::::are
           talking::::about::::will:::be
         available:in:the:very:next:release
       of::my::freeware::program:JavE:(I:will
     name::::::::::it          :"camelizer").::
    Unfortunately                  this:::::will
  still:take:a                       week::or:so,
  although::I                          am::working
 very:::hard                            to:::finish
it::as:soon                              ::::as::::
possible.:                                If::you:do
not:::want                                to:wait:so
long:::and                                do:::::not
find:::any                                ::other:::
tools,:you                               can::::post
 the:::text                              and::::the
 image:::for                            the:::shape
  to:me,:and:I                        can::try::to
   do::::::::the                    :conversion::
    for:::you.::The              ::conversion::
      runs::autoimatically::and:there:are:only
        three::options:for:configuration.:As
          an:example:I:have:taken:the:text
             from::::this::message::and
                 shaped:::::it::::

The last is the most problematic algorithm and it will not create good
results with most shapes. I think adding a fill character like ':' above
makes the result look better. However here is the original w/o the fill
characters:

                        The
               feature     you    are
           talking    about    will   be
         available in the very next release
       of  my  freeware  program JavE (I will
     name          it           "camelizer").
    Unfortunately                  this     will
  still take a                       week  or so,
  although  I                          am  working
 very   hard                            to   finish
it  as soon                                  as
possible.                                 If  you do
not   want                                to wait so
long   and                                do     not
find   any                                  other
tools, you                               can    post
 the   text                              and    the
 image   for                            the   shape
  to me, and I                        can  try  to
   do        the                     conversion
    for   you.  The                conversion
      runs  autoimatically  and there are only
        three  options for configuration. As
          an example I have taken the text
             from    this  message  and
                 shaped     it

Regards,
Markus
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Kevan wrote:
> 
> Please, what is it called when you have a piece of written work shaped like
> something? For example, you might have a poem about an old vase, and the shape
> of the poem illustrates a vase. I think I recall seeing a camel somewhat like
> that here, as well.
> 
> Also, are there any tools that would help you make such a construct?
> 
> Thank you in advance.

Tou can use Adobe Illustrator to do that. 
Draw a form and paste your text in it. That's it.

joris

On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 05:00:21 -0600, Kevan <cut...@shreve.net> provoked the
following text:

8< snip, Uebermann.

>And here is a really big miscellaneous whatzit:
>
>http://home.sport.rr.com/cuthulu/tree.html

Wow, that is one big-ass picture!
In fact, it's the biggest i have seen so far.

I have printed it, but had to use a 1 point font to get it to fit on the page.
:-)
-- 
        Peter Punk
          \    /
        ---\\\\---
          /    \

Castrate my email adress to reply.

*I* didn't do it; the *computer* did it!

On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 22:29:14 -0600, Kevan <cut...@shreve.net> provoked the
following text:

>>>And here is a really big miscellaneous whatzit:
>>>
>>>http://home.sport.rr.com/cuthulu/tree.html
>>
>>Wow, that is one big-ass picture!
>>In fact, it's the biggest i have seen so far.
>
>The bigger you make something with JaVE, the better it seems to convert.

So what is this "subgenious" stuff? I see it popping up everywhere.
-- 
        Peter Punk
          \    /
        ---\\\\---
          /    \

Castrate my email adress to reply.

"He's just a politician trying to save both his faces ..."

Kevan wrote:
> 
> >>http://home.sport.rr.com/cuthulu/tree.html
> >
> >Wow, that is one big-ass picture!
> >In fact, it's the biggest i have seen so far.
> 
> The bigger you make something with JaVE, the better it seems to convert.

That is true for any converting tool. The resolution with ascii
characters is restricted. Most converters take only 1 greyscale pixel
per character, some take 4 pixels. Others do not do greyscale conversion
but convert in monochrome mode and use up to 3x2 pixels. By hand one can
try to somewhat increase the resolution by modifying/combining/...
details from the original image.
However the conversion works: the greater the result image, the more
pixels will be mapped to ascii and the more will the result look like
the original :-)

> >I have printed it, but had to use a 1 point font to get it to fit on the page.
> >:-)
> 
> I like to just keep the font really big and scroll around in it.

I like Opera's ability to scale the html page. Just use the + and - keys
on the numberpad. At 20% one can see the image in full width. Hitting
F11 opens the full screen view.


Markus
--
 \-/         http://www.jave.de    O_< Get JavE now!    \-/
J|a|v|E                           /|                   J|a|v|E
 /-\      Ascii-Art for eyeryone  / \   - for free!     /-\

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 18:29:39 +0100, Markus Gebhard <ukg...@rz.uni-
karlsruhe.de> wrote:
[snip]
> 
> I like Opera's ability to scale the html page. Just use the + and - 
keys
> on the numberpad. At 20% one can see the image in full width. 
Hitting
> F11 opens the full screen view.
 
 
Opera rules.
:)

joris

> I like Opera's ability to scale the html page. Just use the + and - keys
> on the numberpad. At 20% one can see the image in full width. Hitting
> F11 opens the full screen view.

In IE you can hold CTRL down and use the mousewheel.
It can't shrink the page as much as Opera (and Mozilla if my memmory serves my
right) can though.

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