Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 7 Nov 1997.
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alt.ascii-art
· 28 messages · 7 Nov 1997 - 12 Nov 1997
>Just to let everyone know that very soon the NEW FAQ LIST will be at the >address at the bottom of my sig! I thought that it was still up for modifications... and not ready for posting.... One thing I did notice as I scanned the FAQ quickly, Allen Mullen's name is misspelled. It is Mullen not Muller. Minor, I know, but it ought to be corrected... Perhaps we ought to set a deadline for people's comments, additions, etc... and then we can get this finalized FAQ up. BTW, I also plan on posting the FAQ at my Geocities site. That way I'm assured that it will always be around.. No offense Martin-- I've seen ASCII art sites come and go. -joan -- .-~~-. .--. / / "\ /| joan stark / \ | \ \// spu...@juno.com |/\ | \_/-'..' A | / || ASCII ART GALLERY: jgs |__||__|| http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373/
I found a little time... a few notes...
* when talking about reasons why a picture may not look
correct, there are two more possibilities:
1- extra spaces at the end of lines which can cause wrapping
2- it may just be a bad picture!
* do we really want people posting .gif and .jpgs to the
newsgroup? Personally, I'd prefer them not. Either post
the picture and give us the URL to it -or- request an artist
and privately email the pic to them (with their approval,
of course)
*how about adding the word "request" in there when you
state "do you have....?"
*you go into the 'how-to', but don't mention any other
tutorials available. I have a copy of the Daniel Au tutorial
at my site. Allen Mullen has a couple tutorials stored at
his site (Normand Viellieux, etc). I could easily link to
them from the web copy of the FAQ.
* another GOOD copyright /internet website:
Intellectual Property Law Primer
http://www.timestream.com/web/info/mmlaw.html
* a conversion URL (I have several listed in a subpage of
my website but I don't know if any of them are good) This
one was recommended -- RATS-- I can't find it now-- I'll
have to look further and repost.
Those be my comments for now...
-joan
Just to let everyone know that very soon the NEW FAQ LIST will be at the
address at the bottom of my sig!
And here`s some asciiart:
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\ \ / /
\ \ / /
\ \-"""-/ /
/ __ __ \
/ |()||()| \
| "/""\" |
| \__/ |
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\ /
\________/ mga
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/ \
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| | / \ | |
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I`ve got no idea what this creature is - it started off as a cartoon rabbit
but my sister reckons it`s an aardvark!
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In article <01bceb06$5f8ae300$LocalHost@atkins>, "Martin Atkins" <mar...@bigfoot.com.NOCHANCESPAMMER> wrote: > > Just to let everyone know that very soon the NEW FAQ LIST will be at the > address at the bottom of my sig! > > And here`s some asciiart: > > . . > |\ /| > | | | | > \ \ / / > \ \ / / > \ \-"""-/ / > / __ __ \ > / |()||()| \ > | "/""\" | > | \__/ | > | |____| | > | \__/ | > \ / > \________/ mga > | | > _____| |______ > / \ > | | > | _---_ | > | | / \ | | > | | | | | | > | | | | | | > > I`ve got no idea what this creature is - it started off as a cartoon rabbit > but my sister reckons it`s an aardvark! > > Martin Atkins > mar...@bigfoot.com > ASCII ART GALLERY > http://vibes.vossnet.co.uk/i/ighaig/asciiart.htm > > ------------------------------------------------ > NEW TO THIS NEWSGROUP? PLEASE READ THE FAQ: > http://vibes.vossnet.co.uk/i/ighaig/ascfaq.htm > ------------------------------------------------ This is exciting news about the FAQ. I hope it will also be posted on its own as well. And just a small point about the phrase in the FAQ: " To find out how to animate ASCII art using JavaScript, see alt.ascii-art.animation " There are very few people who actually go there. I think more information will be gleaned about animating ASCII art using JavaScript from Kangaroo's page: http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Marina/4942/ascii.htm Click on animation, then click on FAQ. An aardvaark?? It looks like Bottom's costume for Midsummer Night's Dream. NOTE: If you hit the reply button, add an "e" to the "freent"; its absense is to stop the torment of automatic mailers. -- /\ ==, ,^^%--- '===, ___ ,=====, < \ \ I love a '=={6_6}=' ___ '==== < \ good comedy; (\_/),={9 9}==. < don't you? ===' /^\ '===, < '= ^'|\ llizard aka ejm cq5...@freenet.toronto.on.ca ejm97 / | http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/
Martin Atkins (mar...@bigfoot.com.NOCHANCESPAMMER) wrote: > Just to let everyone know that very soon the NEW FAQ LIST will be at the > address at the bottom of my sig! > ------------------------------------------------ > NEW TO THIS NEWSGROUP? PLEASE READ THE FAQ: > http://vibes.vossnet.co.uk/i/ighaig/ascfaq.htm > ------------------------------------------------ is it just me or all the ASCII art in the faq is missing the <pre></pre> tags around it? Well I went to see it with lynx, it sould be ok since we are talking about ASCII art, but every peace of ASCII art is smashed to the left side without the proper blanks to fill in the space! -- .:~~--__ __--~~:. "Waves are my home ,:;'~'-,__~~--..----..--~~__,-`~`::. Wind is my life" ,:;' ''-,_ (. . _,-`` `::. ,;' \ `\)/ `:. Armando Frazao ' `--' ` l33...@alfa.ist.utl.pt __._ _.._ http://alfa.ist.utl.pt/~l33812 -~~ ~~--..__.._-~~~--..--~~ ~~--.__.---...-'~ ~~---...-.__seal__.
Martin Atkins (mar...@bigfoot.com.NOCHANCESPAMMER) wrote: > Just to let everyone know that very soon the NEW FAQ LIST will be at the > address at the bottom of my sig! > ------------------------------------------------ > NEW TO THIS NEWSGROUP? PLEASE READ THE FAQ: > http://vibes.vossnet.co.uk/i/ighaig/ascfaq.htm > ------------------------------------------------ I went back again to take a look at the html source and it indeed has the <pre></pre> ... but I still don't why lynx gets confused with so many "strange" formating tags! Maybe if other people is also getting this you should consider cleaning up a little that html code that is always over done by html composers. I bet you could even save some Kbytes doing it better!! :) Send me a mail if you'd like to have a try at it ... -- .:~~--__ __--~~:. "Waves are my home ,:;'~'-,__~~--..----..--~~__,-`~`::. Wind is my life" ,:;' ''-,_ (. . _,-`` `::. ,;' \ `\)/ `:. Armando Frazao ' `--' ` l33...@alfa.ist.utl.pt __._ _.._ http://alfa.ist.utl.pt/~l33812 -~~ ~~--..__.._-~~~--..--~~ ~~--.__.---...-'~ ~~---...-.__seal__.
Seal do Mar wrote: > I went back again to take a look at the html source and it > indeed has the <pre></pre> ... but I still don't why lynx gets > confused with so many "strange" formating tags! > Maybe if other people is also getting this you should > consider cleaning up a little that html code that is always over > done by html composers. I bet you could even save some Kbytes doing > it better!! :) > Send me a mail if you'd like to have a try at it ... Looks fine to me, but I have never seen nearley so many tags!!!!! Gawd, I think you could get rid of 90% of those tags and it would still look the same!!! You really should e-mail MicroVision Development and tell them that they should really get thier shit (well, tags) together in WebExpress!!! I do all my HTML by hand, so I know what is required to make that, and it is NOTHING like what it has!!! Check out the link in my new sig!: (and see how many tags I used) -- --ran...@slip.net (Randy Gardner) --http://www.slip.net/~randyg/index.htm - *New* Download a maze program that lets you actually walk *inside* the maze!!
Spunk1111 (spu...@aol.com) wrote: >* when talking about reasons why a picture may not look > correct, there are two more possibilities: > 1- extra spaces at the end of lines which can cause wrapping I found a nice little freeware program, TRIM.COM, which removes those trailing spaces...lots of pics suffer from them. TRIM.COM works like a charm and I use it routinely for cleaning up Ascii pics: ------------------------------------------------------------ section 1 of uuencode 4.02 of file TRIM.COM by R.E.M. begin 644 TRIM.COM <encoded_portion_removed> `` end sum -r/size 29401/1971 section (from "begin" to "end") sum -r/size 64800/1389 entire input file ------------------------------------------------------------ Bye,
Hayley Jane Wakenshaw wrote in message <725...@hugbear.NL.net>... >spu...@aol.com (Spunk1111) writes: >I think there's a lack of <pre> tags on the pics. :-/ The bit that says >"these lines should be the same length: >iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii >mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm" should have a <pre> tag too I think, to make it clear >that they should be the same length (hey, when it comes to the font thing, some ppl can be really dim!). IMHO anyway. :) The <PRE> tag is applied to the page; I believe it is the strange orientation of all the rubbish tags that confuses Lynx. (yes I went and saw it myself in that).. It looks fine in IE4.0, and if you subscribe to the theory that all newbies are technologically advanced*... ;) >>BKNambo *I mean, with the technology, not the techknowledge, of course...
I found what is considered to be an error:
032 [space] 048 0 064 @ 080 P 096 ` 112 p
033 ! 049 1 065 A 081 Q 097 a 113 q
034 " 050 2 066 B 082 R 098 b 114 r
035 # 051 3 067 C 083 S 099 c 115 s
036 $ 052 4 068 D 084 T 100 d 116 t
037 % 053 5 069 E 085 U 101 e 117 u
038 & 054 6 070 F 086 V 102 f 118 v
039 ' 055 7 071 G 087 W 103 g 119 w
040 ( 056 8 072 H 088 X 104 h 120 x
041 ) 057 9 073 I 089 Y 105 i 121 y
042 * 058 : 074 J 090 Z 106 j 122 z
043 + 059 ; 075 K 091 [ 107 k 123 {
044 , 060 < 076 L 092 \ 108 l 124 |
045 - 061 = 077 M 093 ] 109 m 125 }
046 . 062 > 078 N 094 ^ 110 n 126 ~
047 / 063 ? 079 O 095 _ 111 o
AND:
A _ o _
O Person wearing O` _O_ (< = Person about
/H\ a dunce's hat /H\ Professor XHX Angel /H-' to eat a
/ \ / \ / \ / \
AND:
If there are a lot of < and > symbols in the picture, with words
like HTML, FONT COLOR, B, I, and so on inside them, then the picture
has been sent in HTML format (see Question 8), and your newsreader
does not understand HTML (most newsreaders don't).
Must use > and <, not > and <. It doesn't cause any problems
with Netscape, but it does cause errors when useing it's view
source window!
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spu...@aol.com (Spunk1111) writes: >>is it just me or all the ASCII art in the faq is missing the >>tags around it? Well I went to see it with lynx, it sould be ok since we are >>talking about ASCII art, but every peace of ASCII art is smashed to the left >>side >>without the proper blanks to fill in the space! > >Last time I was at his site, all the ASCII art was smashed to the >left-- it was on Lynx as well... >-joan I think there's a lack of <pre> tags on the pics. :-/ The bit that says "these lines should be the same length: iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm" should have a <pre> tag too I think, to make it clear that they should be the same length (hey, when it comes to the font thing, some ppl can be really dim!). IMHO anyway. :) -hayley
.----------- Spunk1111 <spu...@aol.com> wrote...
|
| I found a little time... a few notes...
|
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These are good points which I think should be added to the FAQ, and I`ll
add them to my web copy of the FAQ soon. I`ll also add a note that the FAQ
is atill under construction. Happy? ;)
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| \ / | | __ | | __ | |||||
| \/ | | | \_| | | | | | |
| \ / | | | ____ | |__| | ( O O )
| |\/| | | | |_ | | __ | | > |
| | | | | |__| | | | | | | \_/ |
|_| |_| |______| |_| |_| \___/
Martin Atkins ___| |____
mar...@bigfoot.com / \_/ \
ASCII ART GALLERY
http://vibes.vossnet.co.uk/i/ighaig/asciiart.htm
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BUT NOTE IT`S NOT BEEN FINALISED YET!
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.----- Seal do Mar <l33...@alfa.ist.utl.pt> wrote...
|
| is it just me or all the ASCII art in the faq is missing the <pre></pre>
| tags around it? Well I went to see it with lynx, it sould be ok since we
are
| talking about ASCII art, but every peace of ASCII art is smashed to the
left side
| without the proper blanks to fill in the space!
|
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I`ll have to check that out - There should be <PRE> tags round the whole
FAQ and it looks ok in MSIE.
I`ll take a look myself with some different browsers.
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| \ / | | __ | | __ | |||||
| \/ | | | \_| | | | | | |
| \ / | | | ____ | |__| | ( O O )
| |\/| | | | |_ | | __ | | > |
| | | | | |__| | | | | | | \_/ |
|_| |_| |______| |_| |_| \___/
Martin Atkins ___| |____
mar...@bigfoot.com / \_/ \
ASCII ART GALLERY
http://vibes.vossnet.co.uk/i/ighaig/asciiart.htm
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.--------------------- Spunk1111 <spu...@aol.com> wrote...
|
| I thought that it was still up for modifications...
| and not ready for posting....
|
| One thing I did notice as I scanned the FAQ quickly,
| Allen Mullen's name is misspelled. It is Mullen not Muller.
| Minor, I know, but it ought to be corrected...
| Perhaps we ought to set a deadline for people's comments,
| additions, etc... and then we can get this finalized FAQ up.
| BTW, I also plan on posting the FAQ at my Geocities site.
| That way I'm assured that it will always be around..
| No offense Martin-- I've seen ASCII art sites come and go.
|
'--------------------------------------
I know it`s still up for modifications - and as they are made I will change
the FAQ page. I`ll correct that mistake and any others that people spot.
And as for the ascii site - It`s going to be there for some time to come!
That`s one part of our site that won`t go until the rest of the site goes!
(which won`t be in the near future!) :)
Seeya,
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| \ / | | __ | | __ | |||||
| \/ | | | \_| | | | | | |
| \ / | | | ____ | |__| | ( O O )
| |\/| | | | |_ | | __ | | > |
| | | | | |__| | | | | | | \_/ |
|_| |_| |______| |_| |_| \___/
Martin Atkins ___| |____
mar...@bigfoot.com / \_/ \
ASCII ART GALLERY
http://vibes.vossnet.co.uk/i/ighaig/asciiart.htm
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BUT NOTE THAT IT IS STILL UP FOR MODIFICATION
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.---------------- Seal do Mar <l33...@alfa.ist.utl.pt> wrote...
|
| I went back again to take a look at the html source and it indeed
| has the <pre></pre> ... but I still don't why lynx gets confused with so
many
| "strange" formating tags!
| Maybe if other people is also getting this you should consider cleaning
| up a little that html code that is always over done by html composers. I
bet
| you could even save some Kbytes doing it better!! :)
| Send me a mail if you'd like to have a try at it ...
|
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I`ll have a go at that when the FAQ is finalised but having it in the HTML
editor makes it easier to update while things are being added, and it would
be a waste of time fiddling with the HTML only to have the editor put all
the rubbish back!
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| \ / | | __ | | __ | |||||
| \/ | | | \_| | | | | | |
| \ / | | | ____ | |__| | ( O O )
| |\/| | | | |_ | | __ | | > |
| | | | | |__| | | | | | | \_/ |
|_| |_| |______| |_| |_| \___/
Martin Atkins ___| |____
mar...@bigfoot.com / \_/ \
ASCII ART GALLERY
http://vibes.vossnet.co.uk/i/ighaig/asciiart.htm
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(BUT NOT IN LYNX AT PRESENT!)
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llizard <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> wrote...
|
| And just a small point about the phrase in the FAQ:
|
| " To find out how to animate ASCII art using JavaScript, see
| alt.ascii-art.animation "
|
| There are very few people who actually go there. I think more
| information will be gleaned about animating ASCII art using JavaScript
| from Kangaroo's page:
| http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Marina/4942/ascii.htm
| Click on animation, then click on FAQ.
|
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Point Taken - I`ll change it!
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| \ / | | __ | | __ | |||||
| \/ | | | \_| | | | | | |
| \ / | | | ____ | |__| | ( O O )
| |\/| | | | |_ | | __ | | > |
| | | | | |__| | | | | | | \_/ |
|_| |_| |______| |_| |_| \___/
Martin Atkins ___| |____
mar...@bigfoot.com / \_/ \
ASCII ART GALLERY
http://vibes.vossnet.co.uk/i/ighaig/asciiart.htm
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http://vibes.vossnet.co.uk/i/ighaig/ascfaq.htm
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Hayley Jane Wakenshaw wrote:
> I think there's a lack of <pre> tags on the pics. :-/
Nope, there's plenty of <pre> tags.
It is caused by his HTML editor (WebExpress) adding thousands
of unneeded tags to the document.
I can see it fine, but by looking at it, it is not hard to imagine
that it would confuse many browsers.
If there was even the slighetest problem with the parser in any
browser, this page takes the "most likeley to anger it" award.
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--ran...@slip.net (Randy Gardner)
--http://www.slip.net/~randyg/index.htm - *New* Download a maze
program that lets you actually walk *inside* the maze!!
Randy Gardner wrote: > > Hayley Jane Wakenshaw wrote: > > I think there's a lack of <pre> tags on the pics. :-/ > WOW! That was some of the worst code I have ever seen!!! I had a go at "html-ising" it... http://jota.sm.luth.se/~e93-vkn/pics/ascii/faq.html (don't link to this page! It is in a "rubbish directory" and may disappear at any time!) > Nope, there's plenty of <pre> tags. > Hmmm... I only used one... :D > It is caused by his HTML editor (WebExpress) adding thousands > of unneeded tags to the document. > (Now, _what_ do I have against those programs....) > I can see it fine, but by looking at it, it is not hard to imagine > that it would confuse many browsers. > > If there was even the slighetest problem with the parser in any > browser, this page takes the "most likeley to anger it" award. > alt.ascii-art is one group which must be very careful to have a "lynx friendly" faq on the web. -- _ ____ _ _ _ _ _ _ __ _| |__/ __ \| |_ _ __| |__| | | |_ _| |_| |_ ___ ___ \ V / / / / _` | | || / _` / _` |_| | || | _| ' \ _(_-</ -_) \_/|_\_\ \__,_|_|\_,_\__,_\__,_(_)_|\_,_|\__|_||_(_)__/\___| \____/ http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/news LIKE MY SIG? GO HERE: http://www.surfplaza.com/figlet/
Randy Gardner wrote: > > I found what is considered to be an error: > [ 8< ] Oops! Forgot those! Have changed them now. Thanks. :) http://jota.sm.luth.se/~e93-vkn/pics/ascii/faq.html -- _ ____ _ _ _ _ _ _ __ _| |__/ __ \| |_ _ __| |__| | | |_ _| |_| |_ ___ ___ \ V / / / / _` | | || / _` / _` |_| | || | _| ' \ _(_-</ -_) \_/|_\_\ \__,_|_|\_,_\__,_\__,_(_)_|\_,_|\__|_||_(_)__/\___| \____/ http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/news LIKE MY SIG? GO HERE: http://www.surfplaza.com/figlet/
Martin Atkins wrote: > > Ok Everyone, I`ve fiddled with my HTML code and have found two > possibilities for formatting the asciiart. What I need is for > people to try them in as many browsers as they can and see what > they come out like! In Netscape, there is a blank line inbetween every line. -- --ran...@slip.net (Randy Gardner) --http://www.slip.net/~randyg/index.htm - *New* Download a maze program that lets you actually walk *inside* the maze!!
Ok Everyone, I`ve fiddled with my HTML code and have found two
possibilities for formatting the asciiart. What I need is for people to try
them in as many browsers as they can and see what they come out like!
The second one seems to go funny in MSIE3, so if anyone can explain what`s
going on here it would be much appriciated!
The two HTML files are attached.
They are the first bit of Page one of Joan Stark`s art pages on my site (A
Grim Reaper just in case it is not clear in any browsers!)
SeeYa........
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_ _ ______ ______
| \ / | | __ | | __ | |||||
| \/ | | | \_| | | | | | |
| \ / | | | ____ | |__| | ( O O )
| |\/| | | | |_ | | __ | | > |
| | | | | |__| | | | | | | \_/ |
|_| |_| |______| |_| |_| \___/
Martin Atkins ___| |____
mar...@bigfoot.com / \_/ \
ASCII ART GALLERY
http://vibes.vossnet.co.uk/i/ighaig/asciiart.htm
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EVERYONE HAD A GO AT MY VERSION OF THE FAQ,
SO I`M USING THE AUTHOR`S OWN ONE FROM THIS
WEEKEND!
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P. LaBrocca (p...@labrocca.com) spake thusly: > C. Martin wrote: > > Sure, <PRE> is nice, but try "<CODE>" instead, or in addition > > to. Of course, I speak before I've tried this in reference > > to displaying ASCII art for say Lynx review, but whenever I > > think of <PRE>, I think of <CODE>, too. Please let me know Why? Ascii art isn't usually computer code, although there were some pretty artistic entries to the International Obfuscated C contest a while back... > The code-tag wraps a line that is longer than the width of the viewer's > browser window, while pre does not. For ASCII art pre is the better > choice. Well spoken. <code> is for C or Java or Perl (or whatever) source code; text that can be fed into a machine to make it do things. <tt> (teletype - yow!) would be OK for one-line art, but the usual rendering scrunches spaces. Using the block-level <pre> element is almost certainly the Right Thing as whitespace isn't squelched, and every reader is supposed to display it as-is, in monospaced type. Alternatively, just present the art as plain text files; Unix flavour for preference. I'm sure nobody will mind if colour doesn't matter :) -- Andrew Chadwick -- a.t...@dur.ac.uk -- http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d44abw/ me to me that her myself, I am simply what went concer a discuss that in who dress to responsense. You have been the both drawing a greatures of black from one as silver an ordinary day createn myself an eated to me time to
Martin Atkins wrote in message <01bceb06$5f8ae300$LocalHost@atkins>... > >Just to let everyone know that very soon the NEW FAQ LIST will be at the >address at the bottom of my sig! Is it possible for you to construct a form and post it to this news group? That way people can add comments and suggestions to the ASCII FAQ. I suggest that you set an ending date like 15 December for contributions to arrive. The FAQ could then be released on 25 December, so that we can have something to celebrate about this Christmas. :-) P.S. If the FAQ is ready for distribution as I write this, please ignore this message. Quang _ _(_)_ wWWWw ,,, _ (_)@(_),,, (___) {{{}} _(_)_ /(_) {{{}} ~Y~ ~Y~ (_)@(_) | {{}~Y~ (@)\|{}} \|/ /(_) (\|/)~Y~\| \Y/\|~Y~ \|/ (\|/) \|//\|/\|/\\|/\|\|/\\|//\\|//jgs ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Quang Quach qua...@netspeed.com.au ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Wildflowers don't care where they grow - Dolly Parton - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
C. Martin (aa7...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) wrote:
: Your "that html code" reference is actually the key, I believe.
: Sure, <PRE> is nice, but try "<CODE>" instead, or in addition
: to. Of course, I speak before I've tried this in reference
: to displaying ASCII art for say Lynx review, but whenever I
: think of <PRE>, I think of <CODE>, too. Please let me know
: what you think on the matter. ;-) Take Care and Blissed Be.
Well, <CODE> may not be the best choice for ascii art, as it is a text
level element used for displaying pieces of code.
* It is intended as a semantic marker for code, not for ascii art.
* Spaces are still collapsed inside it as normal.
* Browsers are not required to render it monospaced - it is merely a
convention.
<PRE>, on the other hand, stands for preformatted text, exactly what
ascii art is. If defined broadly enough, the terms are in fact
interchangeable. <PRE> is also the only non-deprecated HTML block level
element that instructs (note: even this isn't mandatory, as it may not
always be possible) the browser to render the contents monospaced.
As an example of semantically correct use of <PRE> and <CODE>, this
is adapted from beginner's guide to redcode:
(http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/corewar/guide.html)
[snip]
<p>This is just what another classic warrior by Dewdney, the
<em>Dwarf</em>, does. It "bombs" the core at regularly spaced
locations with <code>DAT</code>s, while making sure it doesn't hit
itself.</p>
<pre>
ADD #4, 3 ; execution begins here
MOV 2, @2
JMP -2
DAT #0, #0
</pre>
[snip]
For ascii art, it'd use <PRE>, possibly with style sheets. If one really
needs in-line ascii art, the tag to use would be <TT>, which is a text
level style tag that instruct the browser to render the contents as
monospaced ("teletype") text, *but otherwise normally*, ie. you'd need
to use (non-breaking space, 0xA0, an ISO-8859-1 character) instead
of spaces for ascii art.
[snip]
<P>I can't see much use for <TT> in ascii art, except maybe for
one-liners like this rose: <tt>---'--<@</tt></p>
[snip]
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Martin Atkins wrote: > > Ok Everyone, I`ve fiddled with my HTML code and have found two > possibilities for formatting the asciiart. What I need is for people to try > them in as many browsers as they can and see what they come out like! > [ 8< ] Why do you want to "format" ascii art? Why not just stick a <pre> in the beginning of the file and a </pre> at the end and change all < characters to < ? -- _ ____ _ _ _ _ _ _ __ _| |__/ __ \| |_ _ __| |__| | | |_ _| |_| |_ ___ ___ \ V / / / / _` | | || / _` / _` |_| | || | _| ' \ _(_-</ -_) \_/|_\_\ \__,_|_|\_,_\__,_\__,_(_)_|\_,_|\__|_||_(_)__/\___| \____/ uggc://jjj.yhqq.yhgu.fr/~ix/arjf LIKE MY SIG? GO HERE: http://www.surfplaza.com/figlet/
>> Ok Everyone, I`ve fiddled with my HTML code and have found two >> possibilities for formatting the asciiart. What I need is for people to try >> them in as many browsers as they can and see what they come out like! Martin-- why bother? Matthew sent you the FAQ in html form. You don't need to bother fiddling with the code... just: copy/paste/save as htm -joan -- () __ ///\ joan stark () _./////_ _ <spu...@juno.com> .-' __'-. //\ () / (o) \\ === \//// } // `` -=((( ASCII ART GALLERY: `\ ---. /\\\\ <http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373/> '\'.`/_____.;' '-' `-` `\/ jgs
In a previous article, l33...@alfa.ist.utl.pt (Seal do Mar) says: > I went back again to take a look at the html source and it indeed > has the <pre></pre> ... but I still don't why lynx gets confused > with so many strange" formating tags! > Maybe if other people is also getting this you should consider > cleaning up a little that html code that is always over done by > html composers. I bet Greetings, Your "that html code" reference is actually the key, I believe. Sure, <PRE> is nice, but try "<CODE>" instead, or in addition to. Of course, I speak before I've tried this in reference to displaying ASCII art for say Lynx review, but whenever I think of <PRE>, I think of <CODE>, too. Please let me know what you think on the matter. ;-) Take Care and Blissed Be. P.S. I saw someone's reference to a URL that has "Scarecrow" in it... I'm coming to find ya', Scarecrow... you better watch out. *evil grin* };-> -=- PEN C. Martin
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