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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 5 Sep 1997.
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4th Anniversary of alt.ascii-art 6

4th Anniversary of alt.ascii-art 6

alt.ascii-art · 6 messages · 5 Sep 1997 - 11 Sep 1997
Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> ASCII art 5 Sep 1997 00:00 · permalink · report

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=================================   6   ==================================


                   DIANA,  Princess of Wales,  1961 -1997


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                        | |    Princess Diana
                        | |           1961-1997
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                        | |        So soon, So sad
      -Nana, Canada-    | |
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    My heart goes out to the UK and to the rest of the world upon
    the loss of Princess Diana.  She was a gift to the universe from God.
    May she rest in peace.

    -joan stark, USA.


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Spunk1111 <spu...@aol.com> ASCII art 5 Sep 1997 00:00 · permalink · report

Add this to the list...
        PAPARAZZI                             DRUNK DRIVING
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And for Sister Theresa:

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-joan

In article: <5upiuu$lnq$1...@mnementh.southern.co.nz>  cfb...@southern.co.nz (Colin 
Douthwaite) writes:

>
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>=================================   6   ==================================
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>                   DIANA,  Princess of Wales,  1961 -1997
>
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>
>

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[I tried to send this to you by e-mail only Colin, but I kept getting
a 'you can not send to that mailbox' error, so it'll have to be here
instead...I was sending to 'cfb...@southern.co.nz']

Hang on Colin. While I don't want to knock the sentiment of this post,
I did not create a pic of the flag at half mast. I did create the
flag itself, but by putting my signature on the above pic, in the
context of a tribute to Diana, you are in effect putting words into
my mouth. I never posted or intended to post a tribute to her.

I can see that you wanted to post the Diana stuff with the proper
credits for the pics used and had you asked if you could use the
flag like this I would not have objected. In most cases I don't
mind anything I've done being used in other pics, but in this post
it looks like you've compiled a collection of tributes others have
posted to the ng (which some have done), especially with a thread
named like other collections that you've compiled.

I'm not disagreeing with the sentiment, I'm just pointing out that
in this case it looks like I'm saying something that I never said.

Regards,
Al.

-- 
"It's not an optical illusion, it just looks like one."
  _____              ___  _        _
  \    \            / _ \| |_ ___ / \__        Al Tinsley aka Dr. Stein
   | |\ \_____     / /_\/|  // _ \\ /  \       al...@hangar18.demon.co.uk
===| |=\ \ __ \====\____ \ |/  \\ \ | . \====
:::| |:/ / |:\/::::/\::/ / |/\\___/ | |\ \:::  Visit my homepage for a 
==/ ____/| |===/\=/ ____/ ___/___ \_| |/ /===  great font for ASCII Art
  \/     \/    \/ \/    \/  \/   \/ \/ \/      www.hangar18.demon.co.uk

Remove .nospam from my address if mailing me.

Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> ASCII art 8 Sep 1997 00:00 · permalink · report
Al Tinsley (al...@hangar18.nospam.demon.co.uk) wrote:

> [I tried to send this to you by e-mail only Colin, but I kept
> getting a 'you can not send to that mailbox' error, so it'll have
> to be here instead...I was sending to 'cfb...@southern.co.nz']

Yep...regrettable...reason is too much unsolicited junkmail...increasing
every month at an alarming rate :-(


> I can see that you wanted to post the Diana stuff with the proper
> credits for the pics used and had you asked if you could use the
> flag like this I would not have objected. In most cases I don't mind


OK. My apologies for the diddle of your original Welsh Flag below:


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         | |/:::''''~~~~'''':::::::::::::'~
         | |        DrS         ~~~~~



I had been trying to remember who "DrS" actually was and although I
searched my archives I could not find your real name or your email
address. I now realise, too late, you were in Daniel Au's Net
Surfers Licence collection.

Even so it is doubtful that I would have contacted you to ask
permission to fly your Welsh Flag at half-mast.  In fact any email
which bounces back to me I do not attempt to re-send, and, I see that
you use a spam-blocker in your address for that purpose, so my emails
to you would probably have bounced and I simply abandon such munged
addresses nowadays. The downside is that one then has to go public in
the newsgroups...and...be more careful what you say.  :-)


However, I readily confess to being a Diddler of other people's artwork.

As a Diddler who has done a diddle it is then always difficult to
know what to do about accreditation.


Sometimes I leave the original intact ( as in your case ) because it
seemed a minor diddle to move the flag down to half-mast with no
other change.

Sometimes I use "After/DrS" to indicate a diddle.

Sometimes I use "DrS/A. Diddle" to signify an un-named diddler.

Sometimes I add a footnote like  [  Original artwork by DrS  ]

Sometimes...if it is a major change of picture...I use only my
own name ( cfbd ).


Now...the crunch question is what do you want me to do to make
amends for my misdemeanour with your Welsh Flag ?

Post an apology to every newsgroup in which my compilation of
flags as a tribute to Princess Diana has been posted over the
past few days ?

Perhaps " Original picture of Welsh Flag by Dr S...lowered to
half-mast by cfbd "  ?   Would that do ?

Then of course I'll get lots of flak for re-posting apologia in the
relevant newsgroups. *8-)


Please respond here in alt.ascii-art newsgroup and tell me what
I must do to make amends apart from this public apology to you.

Bye,

In article: <5v1l16$und$1...@mnementh.southern.co.nz>  cfb...@southern.co.nz (Colin 
Douthwaite) writes:
>
>Al Tinsley (al...@hangar18.nospam.demon.co.uk) wrote:
>
[snip]
>> I can see that you wanted to post the Diana stuff with the proper
>> credits for the pics used and had you asked if you could use the
>> flag like this I would not have objected. In most cases I don't mind
>
>
>OK. My apologies for the diddle of your original Welsh Flag below:
>
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>         | |/:::''''~~~~'''':::::::::::::'~
>         | |        DrS         ~~~~~
>

Thank you, apology accepted. And thanks also for posting the original,
for what it's worth.

>
>I had been trying to remember who "DrS" actually was and although I
>searched my archives I could not find your real name or your email
>address. I now realise, too late, you were in Daniel Au's Net
>Surfers Licence collection.
>
>Even so it is doubtful that I would have contacted you to ask
>permission to fly your Welsh Flag at half-mast.  In fact any email
>which bounces back to me I do not attempt to re-send, and, I see that
>you use a spam-blocker in your address for that purpose, so my emails
>to you would probably have bounced and I simply abandon such munged
>addresses nowadays. The downside is that one then has to go public in
>the newsgroups...and...be more careful what you say.  :-)

I have only recently (past few months) been using a spam block so if
you had found my addr. in your archives probably would not have bounced.
(Had I been posting more frequently you may have easily found it :) )
It's hardly a chore though, to delete .nospam (or whatever) from an
address if mailing someone, it's a pretty obvious spam-blocker. Perhaps
it's too obvious as I'm still getting loads of junkmail :(

>However, I readily confess to being a Diddler of other people's artwork.

This, I have noticed. And I don't object to you doing it either, I have
done it myself. But only as long as it's a cosmetic diddle (which it
virtually always is). But, in this case your diddle gave the pic a whole
lot of *meaning* in the context it was posted, left with my sig on it.

>As a Diddler who has done a diddle it is then always difficult to
>know what to do about accreditation.

I agree. It is the perculiar nature of ascii-art that makes it easy
to change a pic (or an 'artist work' as some would have it :) ) and
repost it. And just how much of a change makes it a different pic?
Impossible to answer...

>Sometimes I leave the original intact ( as in your case ) because it
>seemed a minor diddle to move the flag down to half-mast with no
>other change.

Minor *cosmetic* diddle :)

>Sometimes I use "After/DrS" to indicate a diddle.
>
>Sometimes I use "DrS/A. Diddle" to signify an un-named diddler.
>
>Sometimes I add a footnote like  [  Original artwork by DrS  ]
>
>Sometimes...if it is a major change of picture...I use only my
>own name ( cfbd ).

Yeah, something like one of the first 3 would have been better.
I think what would have been best is if you had let me know what
you were planning beforehand, but as you said, you looked for my
addr. and couldn't find it, so there we are.

>Now...the crunch question is what do you want me to do to make
>amends for my misdemeanour with your Welsh Flag ?
>
>Post an apology to every newsgroup in which my compilation of
>flags as a tribute to Princess Diana has been posted over the
>past few days ?
>
>Perhaps " Original picture of Welsh Flag by Dr S...lowered to
>half-mast by cfbd "  ?   Would that do ?
>
>
>Then of course I'll get lots of flak for re-posting apologia in the
>relevant newsgroups. *8-)
>
>
>Please respond here in alt.ascii-art newsgroup and tell me what
>I must do to make amends apart from this public apology to you.
>

Well, I've had my eye on this new Pentium in the shop around the 
corner... ;)

Your apology is more than enough. Thanks. I'm sorry that it had
to be in public, but you sort of brought that on yourself :)

Let's consider the matter closed...shake? ;)

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Al.     
     
-- 
"It's not an optical illusion, it just looks like one."
  _____              ___  _        _
  \    \            / _ \| |_ ___ / \__        Al Tinsley aka Dr. Stein
   | |\ \_____     / /_\/|  // _ \\ /  \       al...@hangar18.demon.co.uk
===| |=\ \ __ \====\____ \ |/  \\ \ | . \====
:::| |:/ / |:\/::::/\::/ / |/\\___/ | |\ \:::  Visit my homepage for a 
==/ ____/| |===/\=/ ____/ ___/___ \_| |/ /===  great font for ASCII Art
  \/     \/    \/ \/    \/  \/   \/ \/ \/      www.hangar18.demon.co.uk

Remove .nospam from my address if mailing me.

Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> ASCII art 11 Sep 1997 00:00 · permalink · report
Al Tinsley (al...@hangar18.nospam.demon.co.uk) wrote:
>In article: <5v1l16$und$1...@mnementh.southern.co.nz>  cfb...@southern.co.nz (Colin 
>Douthwaite) writes:
>>
>>
>>Please respond here in alt.ascii-art newsgroup and tell me what
>>I must do to make amends apart from this public apology to you.
>>

>Well, I've had my eye on this new Pentium in the shop around the 
>corner... ;)
>
>Your apology is more than enough. Thanks. I'm sorry that it had
>to be in public, but you sort of brought that on yourself :)
>
>Let's consider the matter closed...shake? ;)
>
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>Al.     
     
OK, but after that gracious response I can do no other than make a free 
offering of the second-hand Pentium below.  :-)


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