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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 2 Feb 1999.
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Evolution -- how to improve it?

Evolution -- how to improve it?

alt.ascii-art · 29 messages · 2 Feb 1999 - 8 Mar 1999
In article <u1z...@bsiag.com>, Alex Schroeder <as...@bsiag.com>
writes
>
>Argh!  So I improved upon the evolution thing I posted a few days ago
>and put it in my sig.  However, my bells-n-whistles type friends claim
>no to recognize a thing!!  Now what do I do -- are there some obvious
>improvements?  Adding text?  Arrows?  More detail?  I've looked at it
>for so long it all makes perfect sense to me -- ;) --- therefore I
>think I need some help.  Any ideas?
>
>Alex.
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        |             |              |           |           |      |
    Chinese     dog/cow/sheep      skier     majorette   monkey   tv on 
    dragon          ...                                           table
   or Nessie

nice pics

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Alex Schroeder <as...@bsiag.com> ASCII art 2 Feb 1999 00:00 · permalink
Argh!  So I improved upon the evolution thing I posted a few days ago
and put it in my sig.  However, my bells-n-whistles type friends claim
no to recognize a thing!!  Now what do I do -- are there some obvious
improvements?  Adding text?  Arrows?  More detail?  I've looked at it
for so long it all makes perfect sense to me -- ;) --- therefore I
think I need some help.  Any ideas?

Alex.
-- 
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/6120/       %o  /             _    
                         %o         _%o_/       <b--+    \  %O    � \   
           %o       odMMp'         / M           M /      \dB--+__�_/__ 
   ..oooOOO/       /\   /\        /  \\         /`L        `L\_   __|__

chi...@zahadum.com ASCII art 2 Feb 1999 00:00 · permalink
Alex Schroeder bombarded alt.ascii-art with:

> Argh!  So I improved upon the evolution thing I posted a few days ago
> and put it in my sig.  However, my bells-n-whistles type friends claim
> no to recognize a thing!!  Now what do I do -- are there some obvious
> improvements?  Adding text?  Arrows?  More detail?  I've looked at it
> for so long it all makes perfect sense to me -- ;) --- therefore I
> think I need some help.  Any ideas?

Let's have a look: 

> Alex.
> -- 
> http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/6120/       %o  /             _    
>                          %o         _%o_/       <b--+    \  %O    � \   
>            %o       odMMp'         / M           M /      \dB--+__�_/__ 
>    ..oooOOO/       /\   /\        /  \\         /`L        `L\_   __|__

          ^            ^                ^          ^           ^
          |            |                |          |           |
  Early Amphibian    Four leggered      |       Early man    Homo Computus
  or Mudskipper      critter, probably  |                     :^)
                     a mammal.          |
                                    Modern Ape

How's that?  But then, since I had an old Commodore +4, I'm used to using my
imagination :^)

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Alex Schroeder <as...@bsiag.com> ASCII art 2 Feb 1999 00:00 · permalink
> Early Amphibian    Four leggered              Early man    Homo Computus
> or Mudskipper      critter, probably                        :^)
>                    a mammal.           
>                                   Modern Ape

> How's that?  But then, since I had an old Commodore +4, I'm used to using my
> imagination :^)

You make my heart sing!  :)

Alex.
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           %o       odMMp'         / M           M /      \dB--+__�_/__ 
   ..oooOOO/       /\   /\        /  \\         /`L        `L\_   __|__

Alex Schroeder <as...@bsiag.com> ASCII art 3 Feb 1999 00:00 · permalink
>   Chinese     dog/cow/sheep      skier     majorette   monkey   tv on 
>   dragon          ...                                           table
>  or Nessie

Hm -- what is a "majorette"?  (English is not my first language).  You
didn't quite describe what I would like people to recognize, so now I
know where I can try to improve things.  Thanks for the feedback!

Grmpf.  "skier" indeed!  Now that you said it recognize it, too.  Must
try to get rid of the weird legs or perhaps try a monkey sideways...
And Nessie will grow smaller, I think.

Alex.
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                         %o         _%o_/       <b--+    \  %O    � \   
           %o       odMMp'         / M           M /      \dB--+__�_/__ 
   ..oooOOO/       /\   /\        /  \\         /`L        `L\_   __|__

In article <uu2...@bsiag.com>, Alex Schroeder <as...@bsiag.com>
writes
>
>>   Chinese     dog/cow/sheep      skier     majorette   monkey   tv on 
>>   dragon          ...                                           table
>>  or Nessie
>
>Hm -- what is a "majorette"?  (English is not my first language).  You
>didn't quite describe what I would like people to recognize, so now I
>know where I can try to improve things.  Thanks for the feedback!
>
>Grmpf.  "skier" indeed!  Now that you said it recognize it, too.  Must
>try to get rid of the weird legs or perhaps try a monkey sideways...
>And Nessie will grow smaller, I think.
>
>Alex.
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/6120/       %o  /             _    
                         %o         _%o_/       <b--+    \  %O    ; \   
           %o       odMMp'         / M           M /      \dB--+__;_/__ 
   ..oooOOO/       /\   /\         \ >>         /`L        `L\_   __|__

... i twiddled the monkey a little bit ... and changed the tv.screen

 the whole thing is a good pic

majorette - girl(s) at front of marching band that have twirly sticks

and Nessie is just fine as she is :)

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[][ colin
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llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> ASCII art 5 Feb 1999 00:00 · permalink
In article <bwx...@shieldwolf.demon.co.uk>, CJRandall
<col...@shieldwolf.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> In article <uu2...@bsiag.com>, Alex Schroeder <as...@bsiag.com>
> writes
[snip]
> >Hm -- what is a "majorette"?  (English is not my first language).

[snip] 
> majorette - girl(s) at front of marching band that have twirly sticks

They don't usually wear long skirts like this anymore. I think they
generally wear a leotard now. But I think the long skirt is more
picturesque.

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            )|___!.-'(
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         /  '  \  `)` \
        /   '     (  (_`_
       /   _!____.'
      /_.-'
      /,
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...

                   O
                  /
                 /
                /
               /
              /
             O
                 ,)
         */\/    |
         /_/^,  /|
          )))_.'/
         (((_-'
          |\ )       .)
          `.)|___!.-'(
           / \ `   __)
          / ' \ ` '( \
         /  '  \  `)` \
        /   '     (  (_`_
       /   _!____.'
      /_.-'
      /,
 ejm '-._

They do cartwheels as well. (But I have no idea how they keep their hats
on for that maneuvre.)

                     O
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          )))_/_//
         (((----/
           \ ' /
            )|O
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         /  '  \  ` 
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       /   _!____.-'
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           \/

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            \ ,____     (
             )|    `---- )
            / )
           /(( }_
  ejm     / ))_\\
        _/ (((*  \_
         `O------'-----O


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llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> ASCII art 5 Feb 1999 00:00 · permalink
In article <36B...@iNOdirect.ca>, llizard wrote:
> 
> In article <bwx...@shieldwolf.demon.co.uk>, CJRandall
> <col...@shieldwolf.demon.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]
> > majorette - girl(s) at front of marching band that have twirly sticks
> 
> They don't usually wear long skirts like this anymore. I think they
> generally wear a leotard now.

or trousers:

           _*_   O
           \_/_  !
          (( }   !
          )))__.-`
         (((--'  !
           \ '   ! 
            )|___!__
           /  ___O_ \
          / /      \ \
         / /        \_\
        / /          (_`_
       / /
      /_/ 
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                   O
                  /
                 /
                /
               /
              /
             O
                 ,)
         */\/    |
         /_/^,  /|
          )))_.'/
         (((_-'
          |\ )
          `.)|_____
           / _____ \
          / /     \ \
         / /       \_\
        / /        (_`_
       / / 
      /_/
 ejm '-._

                   O
                  /
                 /
                /
               /
              /
             O
                 ,)
         */\/    |
         /_/^,  /|
          )))_.'/
         (((_-'
          |\ )
          `.)|_____
           / ____  )
          / /   / /
         / /   /_/
        / /    (_`_
       / / 
      /_/
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                     O
           _*_`)    /
           \_/_\   /
          (( } / ,/_
          )))_/_//
         (((----/
           \ ' /
            )|O
           /  \  
          |    |
          | |\ \  
          | | \ \ 
          | |  \ \
          | |   \ \
          |_|    \_\
 ejm       '|     (_`_
           \/

      _ 
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         \ \   \ \
          \ \  / /
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            / )
           /(( }_
  ejm     / ))_\\
        _/ (((*  \_
         `O------'-----O

      _               _
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       \/          _\/
       \ \        / /
        \ \      / /
         \ \    / /
          \ \  / /
           \ \/ /
            \  /
             )/
            / )
           /(( }_
  ejm     / ))_\\
        _/ (((*  \_
         `O------'-----O


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llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> writes
>[snip]
>> > majorette - girl(s) at front of marching band that have twirly sticks
>> 
>> They don't usually wear long skirts like this anymore. I think they
>> generally wear a leotard now.
>
>or trousers:
>
[snipped lovely pics of a majorette doing her thing]
>
>
>                     O
>           _*_`)    /
>           \_/_\   /
>          (( } / ,/_
>          )))_/_//
>         (((----/
>           \ ' /
>            )|O
>           /  \  
>          |    |
>          | |\ \  
>          | | \ \ 
>          | |  \ \
>          | |   \ \
>          |_|    \_\
> ejm       '|     (_`_
>           \/
>
>
around here.. where i live... they're mostly buxom teenage girls with
short pleated mini-skirts, a tunic with shiny buttons and peak hat and
of course the stick

and ... corrr! ... we don't see them do that! :(

      \`_   |\
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        |\    |\
        \ \   \ \
         \ |   `>\
          \ \  / /
           \ \/_/
            \(/_~{_
             )__.-~
            / )
           /(( }_
  ejm     / ))_\\    ...ripped cjr
        _/ (((*  \_
         `O------'-----O


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[][ colin
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llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> ASCII art 7 Feb 1999 00:00 · permalink
In article <u+p...@shieldwolf.demon.co.uk>, CJRandall
<col...@shieldwolf.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> writes
> >[snip]
> >> > majorette - girl(s) at front of marching band that have twirly sticks
> >>
> >> They don't usually wear long skirts like this anymore. I think they
> >> generally wear a leotard now.
> >
> >or trousers:
> >
> [snipped lovely pics of a majorette doing her thing]
> >
> >
> >                     O
> >           _*_`)    /
> >           \_/_\   /
> >          (( } / ,/_
> >          )))_/_//
> >         (((----/
> >           \ ' /
> >            )|O
> >           /  \
> >          |    |
> >          | |\ \
> >          | | \ \
> >          | |  \ \
> >          | |   \ \
> >          |_|    \_\
> > ejm       '|     (_`_
> >           \/
> >
> >
> around here.. where i live... they're mostly buxom teenage girls with
> short pleated mini-skirts, a tunic with shiny buttons and peak hat and
> of course the stick
> 
> and ... corrr! ... we don't see them do that! :(

Ha ha ha ...Only in America!

Is this what you had in mind? The pleats are a little difficult at this
size so I decided on a simple circle skirt. And you'll just have to
imagine the shiny buttons.

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           \_/_  !
          (( }   !
          )))__.-`
         (((--'  !
           \ '   !
            )|___!_
           /   |_O \
          /_.-'   ( \
          | /      ` \
         , /        (_`_
         |/
        ,/
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                    O
                  /
                 /
                /
               /
              /
             O
                 ,)
         */\/    |
         /_/^,  /|
          )))_.'/
         (((_-'
          |\ )
          `.)|_.'__
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          /_.-'   ( \
          | /      ` \
         , /        (_`_
         |/
        ,/
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                   O
                  /
                 /
                /
               /
              /
             O
                 ,)
         */\/    |
         /_/^,  /|
          )))_.'/
         (((_-'
          |\ )
          `.)|_.'__
           /   /_ , )
          /_.-'  ( /
          | /    ,/
         , /    (_`_
         |/
        ,/
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                     O
           _*_`)    /
           \_/_\   /
          (( } / ,/_
          )))_/_//
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           \ ' /
            )|O
           /  `  
          /_-_-_\
           \ |\ \  
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            ),   |\
           ( )   ` \
            ,       \
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            \/

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           \ `-./
            \  _\
             )/
            / )
           /(( }_
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        _/ (((*  \_
         `O------'-----O


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    [_____]  __>,^
  ejm|   |  //| |        www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/

This is very cool! I love it :)  May be a great subject for an animated ascii :)
Maria

  
> 
>            _*_   O
>            \_/_  !
>           (( }   !
>           )))__.-`
>          (((--'  !
>            \ '   !
>             )|___!__
>            /  ___O_ \
>           / /      \ \
>          / /        \_\
>         / /          (_`_
>        / /
>       /_/
>  ejm '-._
>                    O
>                   /
>                  /
>                 /
>                /
>               /
>              O
>                  ,)
>          */\/    |
>          /_/^,  /|
>           )))_.'/
>          (((_-'
>           |\ )
>           `.)|_____
>            / _____ \
>           / /     \ \
>          / /       \_\
>         / /        (_`_
>        / /
>       /_/
>  ejm '-._
> 
>                    O
>                   /
>                  /
>                 /
>                /
>               /
>              O
>                  ,)
>          */\/    |
>          /_/^,  /|
>           )))_.'/
>          (((_-'
>           |\ )
>           `.)|_____
>            / ____  )
>           / /   / /
>          / /   /_/
>         / /    (_`_
>        / /
>       /_/
>  ejm '-._
>                      O
<snip>

llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> ASCII art 8 Feb 1999 00:00 · permalink
In article <36B...@mindspring.com>, Note This
<not...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >
> >            _*_   O
> >            \_/_  !
> >           (( }   !
> >           )))__.-`
> >          (((--'  !
> >            \ '   !
> >             )|___!__
> >            /  ___O_ \
> >           / /      \ \
> >          / /        \_\
> >         / /          (_`_
> >        / /
> >       /_/
> >  ejm '-._
[snip]
> >                    O
> >                   /
> >                  /
> >                 /
> >                /
> >               /
> >              O
> >                  ,)
> >          */\/    |
> >          /_/^,  /|
> >           )))_.'/
> >          (((_-'
> >           |\ )
> >           `.)|_____
> >            / ____  )
> >           / /   / /
> >          / /   /_/
> >         / /    (_`_
> >        / /
> >       /_/
> >  ejm '-._
> <snip>
> 
> This is very cool! I love it :)

Thank you very much. You are too kind.

>May be a great subject for an animated ascii :)
> Maria
.
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     |_____|   / \/ >   /__\   |  | |  __  |__|   |
       --- ==      >   /    \  |  | |    | |  |   |
     [_____]    __>,^ /      \ \__/  \__/  |  |   .
  ejm |   |    //| | 

...
        ___ 
      _/   |   \_,^%---
     |_____|     <\ \   I was afraid somebody might say that...
       ---  ==   >/
     [_____]   __>,^
ejm   |   |   //| |



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to "freent"; its absense is to stop the torment of automatic mailers.
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ASCII-ar+, ASCII and gif anima+ions            ha  /   "    "

llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> writes
> 
>>>[snip]
>>> majorette - girl(s) at front of marching band that have twirly sticks
>>>
>>[snipped lovely pics of a majorette doing her thing]
>>>
>> 
>> and ... corrr! ... we don't see them do that! :(
>
>Ha ha ha ...Only in America!
>
>Is this what you had in mind? The pleats are a little difficult at this
>
>                   O
>                  /
>                 /
>                /
>               /
>              /
>             O
>                 ,)
>         */\/    |
>         /_/^,  /|
>          )))_.'/
>         (((_-'
>          |\ )
>          `.)|_.'__
>           /   /_ , )
>          /_.-'  ( /
>          | /    ,/
>         , /    (_`_
>         |/
>        ,/
> ejm   '-._

[][ hi ... these are brilliant

and yep .. just like that .. really good .. fanx

[][ see yuz
[][ colin
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Alex Schroeder <as...@bsiag.com> ASCII art 10 Feb 1999 00:00 · permalink
>>>>> "CJRandall" == CJRandall  <col...@shieldwolf.demon.co.uk> writes:

    CJRandall>  the whole thing is a good pic

Thanks!  :)

    CJRandall> ... i twiddled the monkey a little bit ... and changed
    CJRandall> the tv.screen

CJRandall's twiddling:                   /       %o  /             _    
                         %o         _%o_/       <b--+    \  %O    ; \   
           %o       odMMp'         / M           M /      \dB--+__;_/__ 
   ..oooOOO/       /\   /\         \ >>         /`L        `L\_   __|__

    CJRandall> <tHISsIGiStHEoNLYpROMOmYwEBsITEgETSaNYWAY:>

As you'll notice, I adopted your twiddling of the monkey.  I hope you
don't mind, I'm planning on having a little web page on ascii art,
I'll mention your homepage...  :D

The twiddling of the screen using ; instead of � looks weird on my
machine: kind of fuzzy!?  I also tried | instead of � but it didn't
help - Using | (no break in the bar on my machine) makes the TV front
less "active" (?)...  I just realized the difficulties of describing
the minor nuances of ASCII art on the human visual system...

I also added a little tail to the mammal.

Alex.
-- 
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/6120/       %o  /             _
                         %o         _%o_/       <b--+    \  %O    � \
           %o     .oodMMp'         / M           M /      \dB--+__�_/__
   ..oooOOO/       /\   /\         \ >>         /`L        `L\_   __|__

CJRandall <col...@shieldwolf.demon.co.uk> ASCII art 10 Feb 1999 00:00 · permalink
Alex Schroeder <as...@bsiag.com> writes
>
>As you'll notice, I adopted your twiddling of the monkey.  I hope you
>don't mind, I'm planning on having a little web page on ascii art,
>I'll mention your homepage...  :D

....oh ... cheers :)
>
>The twiddling of the screen using ; instead of � looks weird on my
>machine: kind of fuzzy!?  I also tried | instead of � but it didn't
>help - Using | (no break in the bar on my machine) makes the TV front
>less "active" (?)...  I just realized the difficulties of describing
>the minor nuances of ASCII art on the human visual system...
>
>I also added a little tail to the mammal.
>
>Alex.
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/6120/       %o  /             _
                         %o         _%o_/       <b--+    \  %O    � \
           %o     .oodMMp'         / M           M /      \dB--+__�_/__
   ..oooOOO/       /\   /\         \ >>         /`L        `L\_   __|__

yep... i know exactly what you mean ... some pics i make look cool in
one font but then crap in another
.. altho' this pic seems to look ok in all fonts .. except for the tv

about that 8-bit char... well i tried a number of 7-bit variations...
at the moment
it looks  _                          _
like --> | |     but in the         | |  (my default true-type font
         |_|     input window       | |   for Ie4/Ns4 is topaz-new2)
          _      of my Ie4 it       |_|
         | |     looks like -->      _
         |_|                        |_|

i pasted it into a tool i made called 'webflip.htm' which revealed:

4 lines
-------------------
32,32,32,32,32,32,32,32,32,32,32,95
32,92,32,32,37,79,32,32,32,32,166,32,92
32,32,92,100,66,45,45,43,95,95,166,95,47,95,95
32,32,32,96,76,92,95,32,32,32,95,95,124,95,95
-------------------
           _
 \  %O    � \
  \dB--+__�_/__
   `L\_   __|__

-------------------

   ,T/~   ~~|~~
  /qB--+~~�~\~~
 /  %O    � /
           ~
-------------------
   _
  / �    O%  /
__\_�__+--Bb/
__|__   _/J'

-------------------

as you can see from the table the char is code 166 decimal ...
NB: any char above 127 is likely to look different on your
    recipient's machine
... try changing the viewing font to 'terminal' and you'll
notice that the char has become
     ___
    / _ \
   | (_) |
    \___n_\
    _______
   |_______|

alas ... this problem can be detrimental to viewing your picture ...
thus i tried to find a compromise between what you've intended
and what will pass thru' all transports

... anyway ... keep on keeping on :)

[][ see yuz
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Alex Schroeder <as...@bsiag.com> ASCII art 11 Feb 1999 00:00 · permalink
>>>>> "CJRandall" == CJRandall  <col...@shieldwolf.demon.co.uk> writes:

    CJRandall> as you can see from the table the char is code 166
    CJRandall> decimal ...  NB: any char above 127 is likely to look
    CJRandall> different on your recipient's machine ... 

You were right, I hadn't even noticed that I was using a non-ASCII
char!  On my current system, char 166 looked better because of the
break in the vertical line and your additional comments let me try
something else: Why not use ! instead of char 166?  I think it does a
good job, it actually emphasizes that the monitor has become
all-important!

>it looks  _                          _
>like --> | |     but in the         | |  (my default true-type font
>         |_|     input window       | |   for Ie4/Ns4 is topaz-new2)
>          _      of my Ie4 it       |_|
>         | |     looks like -->      _
>         |_|                        |_|

Alex.
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http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/6120/       %o  /             _
                         %o         _%o_/       <b--+    \  %O    ! \
           %o     .oodMMp'         / M           M /      \dB--+__!_/__
   ..oooOOO/       /\   /\         \ >>         /`L        `L\_   __|__

atr...@shoggoth.uoregon.edu ASCII art 12 Feb 1999 00:00 · permalink
Alex Schroeder wrote:
> http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/6120/       %o  /             _
>                          %o         _%o_/       <b--+    \  %O    � \
>            %o     .oodMMp'         / M           M /      \dB--+__�_/__
>    ..oooOOO/       /\   /\         \ >>         /`L        `L\_   __|__

Howdy.  I like the concept of the art, but the first two are too big, I
think.  The worm/snake looks like a sea monster, and the four-legged
animal is really confusing.

I realize part of the idea is that the creatures all have the same head
(%0), but, to my mind, it looks better like this:

                             )       %o   /             _        
               `/Oo      _0_/        <b--+    \  %O    � \     
           .oOO)        / M           M /      \dB--+__�_/__     
   .oOV    /\ /\       (  >>         J`L        `L\_   __|__     

Well, maybe not.  Now the second creature looks like a horse.  Hmm.

                     
    `Oo  
 .oOO)   
 /\ /\  


 .oOo`o' 
 |\  |\  

                            )       %o   /             _        
                        _0_/        <b--+    \  %O    � \       
             .oOo`o'   / M           M /      \dB--+__�_/__     
   .oOV     |\  |\    (  >>         J`L        `L\_   __|__     


maybe?  I'm trying to go for the "lower mammal" look.

Ehh.  It was worth a shot.

Annnna
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llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> ASCII art 13 Feb 1999 00:00 · permalink
In article <36C...@gladstone.uoregon.edu>,
atr...@shoggoth.uoregon.edu wrote:
> 
> Alex Schroeder wrote:
> > http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/6120/       %o  /             _
> >                          %o         _%o_/       <b--+    \  %O    ! \
> >            %o     .oodMMp'         / M           M /      \dB--+__!_/__
> >    ..oooOOO/       /\   /\         \ >>         /`L        `L\_   __|__
> 
> Howdy.  I like the concept of the art, but the first two are too big, I
> think.  The worm/snake looks like a sea monster, and the four-legged
> animal is really confusing.
> 
> I realize part of the idea is that the creatures all have the same head
> (%0), but, to my mind, it looks better like this:
[snip]
>                             )       %o   /             _
>                         _0_/        <b--+    \  %O    ! \
>              .oOo`o'   / M           M /      \dB--+__!_/__
>    .oOV     |\  |\    (  >>         J`L        `L\_   __|__
> 
> maybe?  I'm trying to go for the "lower mammal" look.
> 
> Ehh.  It was worth a shot.
> 
> Annnna

I think Annnna is right about the first too creatures. And now that ape
is great. 

How about using 7s for legs. Here is a suggestion:

(Alex, your exclamation point as a solution for the monitor screen was a
good one.)

http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/6120/  %o  /             _
                                _O_/       <b--+    \  %O    ! \
                      %o       / M          M /      \dB--+__!_/__
    ...%o        *7**7        (  >>        / >        `L7\   __|__

I have to say that I find the percent sign a little confusing on the
head. How about this?


http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/6120/  ,c  /             _
                                _O_/       <b--+    \  ,O    ! \
                       ,o      / M          M /      \dB--+__!_/__
    ....o         *7**7       (  >>        / >        `L7\   __|__


And speaking of incomprehensible signatures...


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llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> ASCII art 14 Feb 1999 00:00 · permalink
In article <JMU...@shieldwolf.demon.co.uk>, CJRandall
<col...@shieldwolf.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> writes
> >
> >>>[snip]
> >>> majorette - girl(s) at front of marching band that have twirly sticks
> >>>
> >>[snipped lovely pics of a majorette doing her thing]
> >>>
> >> and ... corrr! ... we don't see them do that! :(
> >
> >Ha ha ha ...Only in America!
> >
> >Is this what you had in mind? The pleats are a little difficult at this
> >
[snip]
> 
> [][ hi ... these are brilliant
> 
> and yep .. just like that .. really good .. fanx
[snip]
> --
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.
            _/v\_
             /
         ,^^^,
        < \   ^%---
        <       \ Why thank you, Sir.
      ^^|\
  ejm  / /

You're too kind, Colin. I'm glad you like them.

                          O
                         /
                        /
                       /
                      /
                     /
      (,            O)
       \   */\/     /
        \\ /_/^,  //
         \`.)))_.'/
          `(((_-'
 ejm         \ )
 __________.__)|_.'___________
'-._-.__,. _\_   _/_ ,.__,-_,-'
              `-'

      (O============O)
       \   */\/     /
        \\ /_/^,  //
         \`.)))_.'/
          `(((_-'
 ejm         \ )
 __________.__)|_.'___________
'-._-.__,. _\_   _/_ ,.__,-_,-'
              `-'


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llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> ASCII art 14 Feb 1999 00:00 · permalink
In article <36C...@iNOdirect.ca>, llizard wrote:
> 
[snip]
> 
>       (O============O)
>        \   */\/     /
>         \\ /_/^,  //
>          \`.)))_.'/
>           `(((_-'
>  ejm         \ )
>  __________.__)|_.'___________
> '-._-.__,. _\_   _/_ ,.__,-_,-'
>               `-'

Hmm, those feet aren't quite right...

      (O============O)
       \   */\/     /
        \\ /_/^,  //
         \`.)))_.'/
          `(((_-'
 ejm         \ )
  ,._.-.___.__)|_.'___________
,_',----.___\_   _/_ ,.__,-_,-'
              `-'

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Medical Catastrophe <spe...@l.foo.yung> ASCII art 14 Feb 1999 00:00 · permalink
llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> wrote:

> In article <36C...@iNOdirect.ca>, llizard wrote:
> > 
> [snip]
> > 
> >       (O============O)
> >        \   */\/     /
> >         \\ /_/^,  //
> >          \`.)))_.'/
> >           `(((_-'
> >  ejm         \ )
> >  __________.__)|_.'___________
> > '-._-.__,. _\_   _/_ ,.__,-_,-'
> >               `-'
> 
> Hmm, those feet aren't quite right...
> 
>       (O============O)
>        \   */\/     /
>         \\ /_/^,  //
>          \`.)))_.'/
>           `(((_-'
>  ejm         \ )
>   ,._.-.___.__)|_.'___________
> ,_',----.___\_   _/_ ,.__,-_,-'
>               `-'

      (O============O)
       \   */\/     /
        \\ /_/^,  //
         \`.)))_.'/
          `(((_-'
 ejm         \  )
  ,._.-.___.__)|_.'___________
,_',----.___\_   _/_ ,.__,-_,-'
              `-'

Very small tweak - can you spot it? ;)

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In article <1dn...@modem-65.archer.dialup.pol.co.uk>,
spe...@l.foo.yung (Medical Catastrophe) wrote:
> 
> llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> wrote:
> 
[snip]
> >
> >       (O============O)
> >        \   */\/     /
> >         \\ /_/^,  //
> >          \`.)))_.'/
> >           `(((_-'
> >  ejm         \ )
> >   ,._.-.___.__)|_.'___________
> > ,_',----.___\_   _/_ ,.__,-_,-'
> >               `-'
> 
>       (O============O)
>        \   */\/     /
>         \\ /_/^,  //
>          \`.)))_.'/
>           `(((_-'
>  ejm         \  )
>   ,._.-.___.__)|_.'___________
> ,_',----.___\_   _/_ ,.__,-_,-'
>               `-'
> 
> Very small tweak - can you spot it? ;)
.
        ha
^^^^%--- ha
 "   \ ha  Very amusing. The majorette I drew is much happier than the
majorette that you tweaked (hmmm, an interesting use of the term here).
The reason the first majorette is happier is that she doesn't get those
horrible gouge marks in her shoulders from the armor that she doesn't
have to wear but must be worn by the second majorette. But I'm sure that
many of the male spectators are happier watching the second majorette.



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CJRandall <col...@shieldwolf.demon.co.uk> ASCII art 16 Feb 1999 00:00 · permalink
In article <36C...@iNOdirect.ca>, llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca>
writes
>In article <1dn...@modem-65.archer.dialup.pol.co.uk>,
>spe...@l.foo.yung (Medical Catastrophe) wrote:
>> 
>> llizard <lli...@iNOdirect.ca> wrote:
>> 
>[snip]
>> >
>> >       (O============O)
>> >        \   */\/     /
>> >         \\ /_/^,  //
>> >          \`.)))_.'/
>> >           `(((_-'
>> >  ejm         \ )
>> >   ,._.-.___.__)|_.'___________
>> > ,_',----.___\_   _/_ ,.__,-_,-'
>> >               `-'
>> 
>>       (O============O)
>>        \   */\/     /
>>         \\ /_/^,  //
>>          \`.)))_.'/
>>           `(((_-'
>>  ejm         \  )
>>   ,._.-.___.__)|_.'___________
>> ,_',----.___\_   _/_ ,.__,-_,-'
>>               `-'
>> 
>> Very small tweak - can you spot it? ;)
>.
>        ha
>^^^^%--- ha
> "   \ ha  Very amusing. The majorette I drew is much happier than the
>majorette that you tweaked (hmmm, an interesting use of the term here).
>The reason the first majorette is happier is that she doesn't get those
>horrible gouge marks in her shoulders from the armor that she doesn't
>have to wear but must be worn by the second majorette. But I'm sure that
>many of the male spectators are happier watching the second majorette.
>
-:- full flight on a cold day -:-

       (O============O)
        \   */\/     /
         \\ /_/^,  //
          \`.)))_.'/
           `(((_-'
  ejm         \  }
 _,-._.--.__.__)|_.'___________
'--------.___\_   _/_ ,.__,-_,-'
               `-'

[][ hi .. yep ... i like breasts .. big breasts .. small breasts ..
    any size breasts ... yas .. yummy   :D

[ps] spot the differences

[][ see yuz
[][ colin
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CJRandall <col...@shieldwolf.demon.co.uk> ASCII art 17 Feb 1999 00:00 · permalink
In article <36C...@gladstone.uoregon.edu>, atr...@shoggoth.uoregon.edu
writes
>Alex Schroeder wrote:
>> http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/6120/       %o  /             _
>>                          %o         _%o_/       <b--+    \  %O    ! \
>>            %o     .oodMMp'         / M           M /      \dB--+__!_/__
>>    ..oooOOO/       /\   /\         \ >>         /`L        `L\_   __|__
>
>Howdy.  I like the concept of the art, but the first two are too big, I
>think.  The worm/snake looks like a sea monster, and the four-legged
>animal is really confusing.
>
>I realize part of the idea is that the creatures all have the same head
>(%0), but, to my mind, it looks better like this:
>
>                             )       %o   /             _        
>               `/Oo      _0_/        <b--+    \  %O    ! \     
>           .oOO)        / M           M /      \dB--+__!_/__     
>   .oOV    /\ /\       (  >>         J`L        `L\_   __|__     

     /|\
  this| looks like a 'dropping'.. slugs leave slithery trails
also i think the other monkey-head was better.. more in proportion with
the arms

>                     
>    `Oo  
> .oOO)   
> /\ /\  
>
now i _do_ like that one! ... and the one above too

>
> .oOo`o' 
> |\  |\  
>
a lamb ?


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>       (O============O)
>        \   */\/     /
>         \\ /_/^,  //
>          \`.)))_.'/
>           `(((_-'
>  ejm         \  }
>   ,._.-.___.__)|_.'___________
> ,_',----.___\_   _/_ ,.__,-_,-'
>               `-'
>

Another Very small tweak of a simelar nature - can you spot it? ;)


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Matt Kane's Brain <kan...@egr.uri.edu> ASCII art 7 Mar 1999 00:00 · permalink
Spunk1111 wrote:
>  there are also males who lead
> the marching bands... they carry batons but
> don't twirl as much as the women...

I say that you need a flute section too.

                            .-}        .-}         .-}
                            |_|        |_|         |_| 
                            (_)o       (_)o        (_)o
                            | \||      | \||       | \||   
                            |\_/       |\_/        |\_/
                            \:\        |:|         |:|
                            |\:|       |:|        /|:|
                     jgs/   ||:|       |:|       /_|:|_
                     mkb^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Spunk1111 <spu...@aol.com> ASCII art 7 Mar 1999 00:00 · permalink
><JMU...@shieldwolf.demon.co.uk

>>                   O
>>                  /
>>                 /
>>                /
>>               /
>>              /
>>             O
>>                 ,)
>>         */\/    |
>>         /_/^,  /|
>>          )))_.'/
>>         (((_-'
>>          |\ )
>>          `.)|_.'__
>>           /   /_ , )
>>          /_.-'  ( /
>>          | /    ,/
>>         , /    (_`_
>>         |/
>>        ,/
>> ejm   '-._
>

lovely llizard...

 there are also males who lead
the marching bands... they carry batons but
don't twirl as much as the women...

                                              .'|          () 
                                           .-'  |         /  
                              .-}         /.-}  |   .-}  / 
                              |_|        ( |_|-.|   |_|/\ 
                              (_),        \(_)      (_) / 
                              | \X\        | \\     | \/     
                              |\_/\\_      |\_/     |\_\ 
                              |:|  \/      |:|      \:\   
                              |:|          |:|      |\:| 
                     jgs      |:|          |:|      ||:|
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


                            .-}        .-}        .-}
                            |_|        |_|        |_|
                            (_)        (_)  __    (_) .---.
                            | \ .--.   | \.'  '.  | \/     \
                            |\_|--o )  |\_|--o  ; |\_|--o   |
                            |:| '--'   |:|'.__.'  |:|\     /
                            |:|        |:|        |:| `---`
                     jgs    |:|_       |:|_       |:|_
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


                            .-}        .-}         .-}
                            |_|        |_|       __|_|__ _ 
                            (_)  o     (_)=m=<) (__(_)=m)=)<)
                            | \_/___   | \//       | \//   
                            |\_/\/\/]  |\_/        |\_/
                            \:\`~~~~`  |:|         |:|
                            |\:|       |:|        /|:|
                     jgs    ||:|       |:|       /_|:|_
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Spunk1111 <spu...@aol.com> ASCII art 7 Mar 1999 00:00 · permalink
><jR2...@shieldwolf.demon.co.uk

>[][ hi .. yep ... i like breasts .. big breasts .. small breasts ..
>    any size breasts ... yas .. yummy   :D

here ya go... do you care for the legs too?

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Spunk1111 <spu...@aol.com> ASCII art 8 Mar 1999 00:00 · permalink
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>I say that you need a flute section too.
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why thank you very much.

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