Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 6 Oct 1998.
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· 16 messages · 6 Oct 1998 - 17 Oct 1998
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Wow! Reminds me of the pic that sgt pinback once did! I award 2.5 Frogsteins! Although rendering of an original does not give you a copyright! ;-)) .oo .oo .o ( -) ( -) ( | " " " " " ========================================================= [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] ========================================================= > ___ ___ ___ ___ > / _ \ / _ \ / _ \ / _ \ > | (_) | (_) | | (_) | (_) | > (_)___/ \___/ "You started it!" _\___/ \___(_) > / / \ \ / No! YOU DID!" / / \ \ > | | _____| | \| |_____ | | > | | |_____| | | |_____| | | > | | | | | | | | > \_\ _ _ /_/ \_\ _ _ /_/ > ( | ) ( | ) NOT (C) 1998 Lester - AMC ( | ) ( | ) > V V V V ^^^ V V V V
Lester5374 wrote: > I am getting the notion more and more these days that the internet is > nothing more than a daycare center for adults (mostly during the evenings > though). I like that! Think I'll put it in me quotes list. Hey, I could do krillin in a dress in ascii too.... *plotting* -- _ - ___ \ BluePard, Lone Loopy Lupine Leopard Mage ,-------/.)- ( ` \ Born wingless into interesting times // \ ) ) .------/`> \ / Don't be ashamed of the past, '- ( \ / it molds the present `-....-' \ _/ ''''`'|'\ / `- Loopy Land: http://www.a-vip.com/facet BP ( facet(at)a-vip.com
>From: Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> >Wow! Reminds me of the pic that sgt pinback once did! I award 2.5 Frogsteins! >Although rendering of an original does not give you a copyright! ;-)) > > .oo .oo .o >( -) ( -) ( | > " " " " " I was just trying to make a little social commentary on the group these days. And also, na-na na-na-na. :)#) BTW, your `steins lend to Figlet very well. >========================================================= >[] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] >[] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] >[] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] >========================================================= >> ___ ___ ___ ___ >> / _ \ / _ \ / _ \ / _ \ >> | (_) | (_) | | (_) | (_) | >> (_)___/ \___/ "You started it!" _\___/ \___(_) >> / / \ \ / No! YOU DID!" / / \ \ >> | | _____| | \| |_____ | | >> | | |_____| | | |_____| | | >> | | | | | | | | >> \_\ _ _ /_/ \_\ _ _ /_/ >> ( | ) ( | ) NOT (C) 1998 Lester - AMC ( | ) ( | ) >> V V V V ^^^ V V V V .-~~-. (_^..^_) Lester||||AMC -- http://members.aol.com/lester5374/index.htm - Ansi home page FTP://members.aol.com/lester5374/ansi - To D/L ANSI and ASCII files.
> I was just trying to make a little social commentary on the group these > days. And also, na-na na-na-na. :)#) I award 3 Birdsteins for the commentary! _==_ _==_ _==_ ( "> ( "> ( "> (> )> (> )> (> )> ^^ ^^ ^^ But seriously, why can't we simply ignore each other? They can post in peace, we can post in peace. But the smallest thing gets blown out of proportion each time! ========================================================= [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] =========================================================
>From: Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> >But seriously, why can't we simply ignore each other? They can post in peace, >we can post in peace. But the smallest thing gets blown out of proportion >each time! I am getting the notion more and more these days that the internet is nothing more than a daycare center for adults (mostly during the evenings though). .-~~-. (_^..^_) Lester||||AMC -- http://members.aol.com/lester5374/index.htm - Ansi home page FTP://members.aol.com/lester5374/ansi - To D/L ANSI and ASCII files.
Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >But seriously, why can't we simply ignore each other? They can post in peace, >we can post in peace. But the smallest thing gets blown out of proportion >each time! Simply because, you, Mr. Casso, will just never let that happen...as your ongoing track record in this newsgroup has repeatedly proven. I certainly agree that you have repeatedly let the smallest thing get blown out of proportion and consequently we have the state of affairs that we've got here right now. So why are you again whimpering and bleating about "posting in peace"? You just will not allow that to happen...except under your own personal rules and regulations. Get real! I, for one, don't want your copyrighted material posted to alt.ascii-art under your rules and regulations. Keep your strictly copyrighted material private please! You have no one but yourself to blame for just about all that has happened here and your latest excesses in behaviour constitute Net-abuse. Bye,
>From: BluePard <facet@a-VIP.com_remove-me_> >> I am getting the notion more and more these days that the internet is >> nothing more than a daycare center for adults (mostly during the evenings >> though). > >I like that! Think I'll put it in me quotes list. Cool, I've never been quoted before. :) .-~~-. (_^..^_) Lester||||AMC -- http://members.aol.com/lester5374/index.htm - Ansi home page FTP://members.aol.com/lester5374/ansi - To D/L ANSI and ASCII files.
At risk of getting flamed by the esteemed Colin, or any others, I feel I can not hold my peace on this issue any longer. I admit that I am ignorant of the initial beginnings of this war against Mr. Pete Casso, and so maybe my views are missformed. But I still have to say: As detestable as some of Pete Casso's actions have been, and as irritating as he seems to be, if I take his posts with a (large) grain of salt,. I don't find them to be nearly as objectionable as you seem to. In fact, it is your posts, Mr. Douthwaite, that I am inclined to ignore, rather than his. For even though he may in fact rightly deserve his acquired nickname of Pete Casshole, especially for his repeated trolling, I doubt he would continue to do so if it were not for you biting every single time! Let me sum up - Pete Casso may be earning himself a bad rep with his behavior, but you with your replies are making yourself look even worse. Ok, I said it. I feel better now.
Matthew Thomas <mpt...@spamfree.land> wrote: >Colin Douthwaite wrote: >>... >> Casso, like all trolls will only go away when everyone, >> and I mean _everyone_ totally ignores his postings. >>... >> My posts were not written for you. They were responses to Mr. Casso. >And ... POOF! Colin disappears in a contradiction singularity. Nitpicking again then eh Matthew? Maybe you, as a fan of Winston Churchill, will lead the way to combat Mr. Casso in this newsgroup, but since you only came to the group in late 1997 that seems very unlikely, in view of your track record to date...but we must not give up hope eh? V for Victory! Ta Da. > ObAscii: a pinwheel -- the type that you blow or hold in the wind. > |`. _,=--, > | `. /:' ,' > `!;. |: ,' > `"-()<._ > ,' | `:`. > ,' ,:/|`. `| >'--="'|| `.| > || > ||mt-2 > || > || ObAscii: A trumpet: | / /| _______I_I_I_________/ | D====/ ____________________ | - - || __| | | |___ || \ | \\__[_=|_[[|_|==_]_// \| \_________________/ | \ -unknown- = = = A few good blasts should clear all the Nits you so enjoy picking. Whatever will you find to post about then Matthew? " Sound, Sound Ye Trumpets Sound " -- Purcell Toodle-oo,
Ender wrote: > Let me sum up - Pete Casso may be earning himself a bad rep with his behavior, but > you with your replies are making yourself look even worse. Oh dear, oh dear, Colin! We are both getting beaten up! But my congrats to you, you have surpassed me as the true aaa troll! ========================================================= [] .oo Visit the Gallery of the 'steins! [] [] ( -) http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/ [] [] " " Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes [] =========================================================
Colin Douthwaite wrote: > However, I think you _do_ deserve a flame about your line length. > Please trim it back to about 72 columns to avoid it wrapping at the > right hand side of the screen. Actually, politely informing the person of their mistake usually has a better effect than flaming, and who needs flames anyway? Perhaps a little less defensive response would have a better effect as well. He called Casso's postings detestable, so calling it an "I love Casso" post was not quite reasonable, and he's far less likely to change his opinion of you now. *shrugs* I would, however, love to inquire of the recent de-lurkers if they have any ascii art that they've been keeping hidden as well? I know that reading this group makes me want to draw ascii, so I assume the feeling arises in others, and so one could not lurk long without at least trying it... at least you might get some helpful advice by posting your work. -- _ - ___ \ BluePard, Lone Loopy Lupine Leopard Mage ,-------/.)- ( ` \ Born wingless into interesting times // \ ) ) .------/`> \ / Don't be ashamed of the past, '- ( \ / it molds the present `-....-' \ _/ ''''`'|'\ / `- Loopy Land: http://www.a-vip.com/facet BP ( facet(at)a-vip.com
BluePard <facet@a-VIP.com_remove-me_> wrote: > Perhaps a little less defensive response would have a better effect > as well. If you think that my reply was a defensive response in any way, then think again! > He called Casso's postings detestable, so calling it an "I love > Casso" post was not quite reasonable, and he's far less likely to > change his opinion of you now. Who says people have to be reasonable in this newsgroup? Many frequently are not. I don't claim to be an exception. Frankly I don't much care about Ender's opinion of me, or anyone else for that matter. This guy, Ender, has only just arrived in this newsgroup and in no time he is seen writing flames...and...just ONE picture...which originally he claimed as his own, but now he thinks it may have been a composite diddle he made from several pictures he had seen elsewhere. Go figure! He is damn lucky I chose not to really flame him as I was tempted to do. Never mind...I'll make amends...I'll now flame _you_ instead for your for comments. Hah! *8-) ) ( ( ( ( ) () @@ ) (( ( ( ( )( @@ ( )) ) ( ( ( ( ()( /---\ (()( ( _______ ) ) )(@ !O O! )@@ ( ) ) ) < ____) ) ( ( )( ()@ \ o / (@@@@@ ( ()( ) /--| |( o| ( ) ) ((@@(@@ !o! @@@@(@@@@@)() ( | > \___| ) ( @)@@)@ /---\-/---\ )@@@@@()( ) | /---------+ (@@@@)@@@( // /-----\ \\ @@@)@@@@@( . | | \ =========______/|@@@@@@@@@@@@@(@@@ // @ /---\ @ \\ @(@@@(@@@ . . | \ \\=========------\|@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ O @@@ /-\ @@@ O @@(@@)@@ @ . | \ \----+--\-))) @@@@@@@@@@ !! @@@@ % @@@@ !! @@)@@@ .. . | |\______|_)))/ . @@@@@@ !! @@ /---\ @@ !! @@(@@@ @ . . \__========== * . @@ /MM /\O O/\ MM\ @@@@@@@. . | |-\ \ ( . @ !!! !! \-/ !! !!! @@@@@ . | | \ \ ) . . @@@@ !! !! .(. @. .. . | | \ \ ( / .( . \)). ( |O )( O! @@@@ . ) . | | / / ) ( )). (( .) !! ((( !! @@ (. ((. . . | | / / () )) )) .( ( ( ) ). ( !! )( !! ) (( )) .. | |_< / ( ) ( ( ) ) (( ) )).) ((/ | ( | \( )) ((. ). ____<_____\\__\__(___)_))_((_(____))__(_(___.oooO_____Oooo.(_(_)_)((_ Consider yourself flamed. Bye,
On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:25:36 -0400, Ender <gt4...@prism.gatech.edu> wrote: >At risk of getting flamed by the esteemed Colin, or any others, I feel I can not >hold my peace on this issue any longer. That's a shame. Casso, like all trolls will only go away when everyone, and I mean _everyone_ totally ignores his postings. You seem to have done well so far but now you have added to the noise and given Casso what he craves most of all - attention and support for his activities! However, I think you _do_ deserve a flame about your line length. Please trim it back to about 72 columns to avoid it wrapping at the right hand side of the screen. > In fact, it is your posts, Mr. >Douthwaite, that I am inclined to ignore, rather than his. My posts were not written for you. They were responses to Mr. Casso. Ignore my posts if you wish...it makes no impact on me or on what I may choose to write in response to Mr. Casso. >For even though he may >in fact rightly deserve his acquired nickname of Pete Casshole, especially for his >repeated trolling, >I doubt he would continue to do so if it were not for you >biting every single time! And that shows just how ill-informed you are on Casso's activities in this newsgroup over about the last 2 years. I hope by my responses to save other people from having to respond...that's what Casso wants... _everyone_ to respond to his posts. >Let me sum up - Pete Casso may be earning himself a bad rep with his behavior, but >you with your replies are making yourself look even worse. I'm not here to earn a reputation good or bad. I'm here to enjoy this newsgroup which I have read daily since it's creation in September 1993. I read it for enjoyment and I try my best to make contributions that others will enjoy. However, defence of the newsgroup against unwanted activities inevitably means that I will engage in flamewars if I so choose. I cannot recall having ever having seen _your name_ in this newsgroup, alt.ascii-art, until very recently, and so far I have not seen any memorable postings from you...except this "I love Casso" post of yours to which I am currently responding. >Ok, I said it. I feel better now. Well, I guess that's something beneficial you have got from this newsgroup as an ignorant ill-informed newbie. Have you read all the FAQs yet? I doubt that you have. Please read them without delay. It will help. Oh, and yeah...where are _your_ pictures? . /:\ |:| |:| |:| |:| __ *_ _ _ _ _ _ _ * ,_|:|_, / ) | `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-'| (Oo / _I_ | | +\ \ || __| ^ | LONG LIVE alt.ascii-art | \ \||___| | | free & unmoderated | | \ /.:.\-\ | (*) |_ _ _ _ _ _ _ | \^/ | |.:. /-----\ | _<">_ | `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-'| _(#)_ | |___|::oOo::| o+o \ / \0 0/ \ / (=) / |:<-T->:| 0'\ ^ /\/ \/\ ^ /`0 |_____\ ::: / /_^_\ | | /_^_\ | | \ \:/ || || | | || || | | | | d|_|b_T____________________________T_d|_|b \ / | \___ / / / | \_____\ / / `-' / / ______________________________ / -cfbd98- /____________ Toodles,
On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:25:36 -0400, Ender <gt4...@prism.gatech.edu> wrote: >I admit that I am ignorant of the initial beginnings of this war against Mr. Pete >Casso, and so maybe my views are missformed. But I still have to say: > >As detestable as some of Pete Casso's actions have been, and as irritating as he >seems to be, if I take his posts with a (large) grain of salt,. I don't find them >to be nearly as objectionable as you seem to. ______ ______ ______ ______ ______ ______ ______ ______ /_____/ /_____/ /_____/ /_____/ /_____/ /_____/ /_____/ /_____/ .:\:/:. ___________ .__ .__ .:\:\:/:/:. \__ ___/ _______ ____ | | | | :.:\:\:/:/:.: | | \_ __ \ / _ \ | | | | :=.' - - '.=: | | | | \/ ( <_> ) | |__ | |__ '=(\ 9 9 /)=' |____| |__| \____/ |____/ |____/ ( (_) ) /`-vvv-'\ ___________ _____ ________ / \ \_ _____/ / _ \ \_____ \ / /|,,,,,|\ \ | __) / /_\ \ / / \ \ /_// /^\ \\_\ | \ / | \ / \_/. \ WW( ( ) )WW \___ / \____|__ / \_____\ \_/ __\,,\ /,,/__ \/ \/ \__> jgs (______Y______) ______ ______ ______ ______ ______ ______ ______ ______ /_____/ /_____/ /_____/ /_____/ /_____/ /_____/ /_____/ /_____/ ***What is a troll? A fisherman would say it means to trail worms through water teeming with fish, hoping for a bite. In newsgroup terminology, it means pretty much the same thing. ***What is the objective of the troll? The hobbyist may want nothing more than to provoke a reaction from the newsgroup. Some do it merely to call attention to themselves. There are career trolls who are dedicated to filling newsgroups with off-topic posts, flames, and general confusion. Some trolls are simple, while some are quite elaborate and long-running. Some trolls have achieved a degree of infamy. You can find out who they are by looking for the word 'troll and usenet' using any search engine. ***Is trolling only for the lonely? No! The happiest trolls travel in packs. The more the merrier. They give aid and encouragement to one another in their mission to destroy the newsgroups they infest. ***What are the tools of the trolling trade? Well, you have asked a big question there. For the creative and enterprising troller, there are just too many to list. Here's a brief sampling: 1. Hidden identities work well. As has been noted in the past, AOL gives 5 screen names. Now, those can be used to good advantage. The troller can appear to be 5 altogether different people as he/she/it carefully fans the flames. Seemingly endless off-topic threads that say nothing and go absolutely nowhere can be constructed in this fashion. But if someone notices that there seem to be 'too many' AOLers in the group, there's always: 2. REMAILERS. You can have all of these you want. A different identity for every day of the week. Or, if this isn't anonymous enough for your purposes, try: 3. ANONYMOUS remailers. It is said these are not easy to learn how to work, but well worth the effort to the would-be troller. 4. Cultivate other trollers for *buddies*. They are handy for backing up your ludicrous claims and other falsehoods. They will add to the general chaos in the newsgroup you are attacking. You will have need of your *buddies* as the posts grow further and further off-topic. And as the other people in the group begin objecting to your nonsense. 5. Never underestimate the power of e-mail. A troller can stay just behind the scenes, but still participate in the fun via e-mail. That person can use e-mail to encourage others to do their dirty work. Posting objectionable comments and so on. The beauty of staying disengaged in the nasty on-board comments, is that the troller's reputation remains dainty. It's very important to have at least one troller of the bunch free to appear to smooth things over with the general population of the group. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ***This is the Help Section for Trollers in Distress*** 1. HELP! I've been identified as a troll! Whatever will I do? Call them a troll right back. (Optional: Get your friends to agree with you.) 2. HELP! I've been accused of making off-topic posts. Whatever will I do? Forthrightly declare that their own posts complaining about you are off-topic. Remind them that the group is unmoderated and you can post anything you please, so there. Bring out some of your extra addresses to flame them. 3. HELP! I've been caught in a lie. Take your pick: Change the subject, claim your posts were tampered with/nuked, claim the person who is calling you a liar is a liar, declare that you are afraid of the person, say the person has a mental problem, say it's a free country and you have the right to lie if you want to. Failing all that, get one or all of your aliases to say it. 4.. HELP! Nobody likes me. Well, what did you expect? Look at what you do for a living. Grow a thicker skin. ______ ______ ______ ______ ______ ______ ______ ______ /_____/ /_____/ /_____/ /_____/ /_____/ /_____/ /_____/ /_____/ ============================================================================ -------The ASCII ART FAQ Ten Commandments.--------- \\\\`/// / _ _| 1/ Thou shalt read the FAQ. (\'('\/') 2/ Thou shalt not remove the ______/( >(__ Signature from any ASCII ART. /`- \ \_=__| `\ 3/ Thou shalt not claim the Ownership / /__( _____\ _____ of someone else's ASCII ART. /_ \.____ ," "." ",__ 4/ Thou shalt read the FAQ. | / _\__/_ - / \ 5/ Thou shalt ask permission \/ /____ \ASCII ART FAQ /// before using Someone else's ) / / \__\ - | ASCII ART. '-.__|_/ ///| I VI | 6/ Thou shalt not sell Someone \_ | | | else's ASCII ART. | | II VII | 7/ Thou shalt read the darn FAQ. \ | | | 8/ Thou shalt not post / | III VIII | unaccredited ASCII ART without \ | | | mentioning that you didn't make it. \_ | IV IX | 9/ Thou shalt not assume that \| | | ASCII ART isn't ART at all. | V X | 10/ Thou shalt read the FAQing FAQ. |______b'ger______| a copy of the FAQ can be found at: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373/faq.htm tutorials also available there! ============================================================================ Ta Ta For Now,
Colin Douthwaite wrote: >... > Casso, like all trolls will only go away when everyone, > and I mean _everyone_ totally ignores his postings. >... > My posts were not written for you. They were responses to Mr. Casso. And ... POOF! Colin disappears in a contradiction singularity. ObAscii: a pinwheel -- the type that you blow or hold in the wind. |`. _,=--, | `. /:' ,' `!;. |: ,' `"-()<._ ,' | `:`. ,' ,:/|`. `| '--="'|| `.| || ||mt-2 || || ttfn -- .._o Matthew Thomas (mpt26 @ student . canterbury . ac . nz) ..://\/ Visit my site: http://cantua.canterbury.ac.nz/~mpt26/ ..:_/\ Read my column on Sundays: http://www.newsroom.co.nz/ ..:/ ASCII ART FAQ: http://cantua.canterbury.ac.nz/~mpt26/art/ascii/
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