Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 20 Aug 2000.
Suggested Fonts (Win)
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· 49 messages · 20 Aug 2000 - 2 Sep 2000
I'm reading with OL Express on Win98 (Terrible, as any time it sees // then another character it turns it into a file:// hyperlink which seriously messes some up, but that's not my point). At the moment I'm having to read with Courier New, but I get the feeling that because this is a serif font it's making some pictures look weird - is there a standard Win98 sans-serif font that is fixed width? Cheers Stuart
Hi, Stuart >At the moment I'm having to read with Courier New, but I get the feeling >that because this is a serif font it's making some pictures look weird - is >there a standard Win98 sans-serif font that is fixed width? usually you shouldn't have a problem with serif fonts but _if_ it is possible to access the font from that prog try "Terminal" although I guess it isn't accessible 'cause it is no truetype font.. but it _is_ installed on your system
Use fixedsys. It's a TTF and is better than terminal and most things look better than in courier new. On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 12:36:19 +0100, "Stuart Moore" <stu...@bigfoot.com> wrote: >I'm reading with OL Express on Win98 (Terrible, as any time it sees // then >another character it turns it into a file:// hyperlink which seriously >messes some up, but that's not my point). > >At the moment I'm having to read with Courier New, but I get the feeling >that because this is a serif font it's making some pictures look weird - is >there a standard Win98 sans-serif font that is fixed width? > >Cheers >Stuart >
I'm able to answer my own question: Going to OL Express's fonts selector, there's "Fixed Width" and "Proportional" listed - the fixed width list only has those that are fixed width, although I need to select one of these for the Proportional one for the ascii art to work. The 4 on my system are: Courier New Lucidia Consol Lucidia Sans Typewriter OCR A Extended None of them are especially good though, so if anyone has one from the web that works well, can you let me know? Cheers Stuart
Try looking on www.microsoft.com for the file gc0651.exe, it contains the MS-Linedraw TTF, which looks just like the DOS fonts (and has non-ascii chars too) Stuart Moore wrote: > > I'm able to answer my own question: Going to OL Express's fonts selector, > there's "Fixed Width" and "Proportional" listed - the fixed width list only has > those that are fixed width, although I need to select one of these for the > Proportional one for the ascii art to work. The 4 on my system are: > > Courier New > Lucidia Consol > Lucidia Sans Typewriter > OCR A Extended > > None of them are especially good though, so if anyone has one from the web that > works well, can you let me know? > > Cheers > > Stuart
I use Topaz New2 font. Sherry -- She...@onecliq.net http://www.mirc-rainbow.com/sher/ "Stuart Moore" <stu...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message news:sq2...@corp.supernews.com... > I'm able to answer my own question: Going to OL Express's fonts selector, > there's "Fixed Width" and "Proportional" listed - the fixed width list only has > those that are fixed width, although I need to select one of these for the > Proportional one for the ascii art to work. The 4 on my system are: > > Courier New > Lucidia Consol > Lucidia Sans Typewriter > OCR A Extended > > None of them are especially good though, so if anyone has one from the web that > works well, can you let me know? > > Cheers > > Stuart > >
>At the moment I'm having to read with Courier New, but I get the feeling >that because this is a serif font it's making some pictures look weird - is >there a standard Win98 sans-serif font that is fixed width? I have Win98 / Free Agent I'm using "Fixedsys"
Hi Rasmus,.. Rasmus Klitgaard-Nielsen <pin...@cs.auc.dk> schrieb folgendes: >Try looking on www.microsoft.com for the file gc0651.exe, it contains >the MS-Linedraw TTF, which looks just like the DOS fonts (and has >non-ascii chars too) um? I donwloaded the file, and it contains the font MS-Linedraw TTF, but this font looks exactly like Courier New not like the DOS-Font. :( Where can I get the real DOS-Font? I need it, because it is the only font I know, which displays the ' (039) correctly. Yes, I know that Terminal displays the ' correctly, too, but its char-height is too low, so that all ascii-arts looks bad. :( BTW: How can I create my own fonts? Then I could copy&paste the chars from the Dos-Box... ;)0 -- \\//o\__ __ (o) |\ /|\___ __ :-(o_)^(o_)-:[THA ULTIMATIVE] .:::::::::. []\_/o ) / (\\ ||V||o\o ) /_ : < : //~\\||//|\ /| :' __ __ ': ||\\_\||// ||\\_\o\:. _..._ .: ||\\|| ( ||V|| :-( o)^( o)-: ||\\ \_/ :. '---' .: \\_\\||\\|| ||
On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 20:22:55 +0200, Marco Kirschke <Mar...@gmx.de> provoked the following text: >>Try looking on www.microsoft.com for the file gc0651.exe, it contains >>the MS-Linedraw TTF, which looks just like the DOS fonts (and has >>non-ascii chars too) >um? I donwloaded the file, and it contains the font MS-Linedraw TTF, but this >font looks exactly like Courier New not like the DOS-Font. :( >Where can I get the real DOS-Font? I need it, because it is the only font I >know, which displays the ' (039) correctly. Yes, I know that Terminal displays >the ' correctly, too, but its char-height is too low, so that all ascii-arts >looks bad. :( > >BTW: How can I create my own fonts? Then I could copy&paste the chars from the >Dos-Box... ;)0 The old DOS font is the same as "Terminal". -- Peter Punk \ / ---\\\\--- / \ Visit my MIDI-site at http://members.xoom.com/miditation/index.html (I have added several new links) Forgive your enemies, but remember their NAME!
> At the moment I'm having to read with Courier New, but I get the feeling > that because this is a serif font it's making some pictures look weird - is > there a standard Win98 sans-serif font that is fixed width? Lucida Console
I always thought that this font was due to the graphics card, as some of the computers I used in the old dos days had one of those, some had the other. Or am I wrong? Marco Kirschke <Mar...@gmx.de> wrote in message news:o38...@4ax.com... > Hi Peter,.. > > ppu...@damnthatspam.chello.nl (Peter Punk) schrieb folgendes: > > >The old DOS font is the same as "Terminal". > > That's not quite right! > Terminal: > ___ > / /\ > | / | > | / | > \/___/ > > OldSchoolDos: > ___ > / \ > | | > | # | > | | > \___/ > > Okay, the main arugement for not using Terminal is I read mainly german > Newsgroups, so all the postings including ��� ('ae'/'oe'/'ue') won't display > correctly... > > -- > \\//o\__ __ (o) |\ /|\___ __ :-(o_)^(o_)-:[THA ULTIMATIVE] > .:::::::::. []\_/o ) / (\\ ||V||o\o ) /_ : < : file://~\\||//|\ /| > :' __ __ ': ||\\_\||// ||\\_\o\:. _..._ .: ||\\|| ( ||V|| > :-( o)^( o)-: ||\\ \_/ :. '---' .: \\_\\||\\|| ||
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Hi Peter,..
ppu...@damnthatspam.chello.nl (Peter Punk) schrieb folgendes:
>The old DOS font is the same as "Terminal".
That's not quite right!
Terminal:
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OldSchoolDos:
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Okay, the main arugement for not using Terminal is I read mainly german
Newsgroups, so all the postings including ��� ('ae'/'oe'/'ue') won't display
correctly... :(
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On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 00:21:18 +0200, Marco Kirschke <Mar...@gmx.de> provoked the following text: >>The old DOS font is the same as "Terminal". >That's not quite right! >Terminal: > ___ > / /\ > | / | > | / | > \/___/ > >OldSchoolDos: > ___ > / \ > | | > | # | > | | > \___/ That all depends on what video card you had/have, what brand it was, whether it was HGA, CGA, EGA, VGA, SVGA, what codepage you used... Anyway, Terminal is quite similar to HGA DOS font. >Okay, the main arugement for not using Terminal is I read mainly german >Newsgroups, so all the postings including ��� ('ae'/'oe'/'ue') won't display >correctly... :( Would it display correctly if you viewed the text in a DOS window? -- Peter Punk \ / ---\\\\--- / \ Visit my MIDI-site at http://members.xoom.com/miditation/index.html (I have added several new links) Hartley's Second Law: Never sleep with anyone crazier than yourself.
On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 23:29:54 +0100, "Stuart Moore" <stu...@bigfoot.com> provoked the following text: >I always thought that this font was due to the graphics card, as some of the >computers I used in the old dos days had one of those, some had the other. Or am >I wrong? Nope, you're absolutely right! -- Peter Punk \ / ---\\\\--- / \ Visit my MIDI-site at http://members.xoom.com/miditation/index.html (I have added several new links) Spouse, n.: Someone who'll stand by you through all the trouble you wouldn't have had if you'd stayed single.
Hi Peter,.. ppu...@damnthatspam.chello.nl (Peter Punk) schrieb folgendes: >That all depends on what video card you had/have, what brand it was, whether it >was HGA, CGA, EGA, VGA, SVGA, what codepage you used... Oh... I didn't know that... thx... >>so all the postings including ��� ('ae'/'oe'/'ue') won't display >>correctly... :( > >Would it display correctly if you viewed the text in a DOS window? Nope... :( Okay, so I need a font with the windows-charset but which looks like OldSchoolDos, right? ;) -- \\//o\__ __ (o) |\ /|\___ __ :-(o_)^(o_)-:[THA ULTIMATIVE] .:::::::::. []\_/o ) / (\\ ||V||o\o ) /_ : < : //~\\||//|\ /| :' __ __ ': ||\\_\||// ||\\_\o\:. _..._ .: ||\\|| ( ||V|| :-( o)^( o)-: ||\\ \_/ :. '---' .: \\_\\||\\|| ||
<nob...@nowhere.com> schrieb: > Use fixedsys. It's a TTF and is better than terminal and most things > look better than in courier new. Fixedsys is a TTF? I don't think so. Or is there really something like Fixedsys.TTF? benjamin
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 23:25:59 +0200, Marco Kirschke <Mar...@gmx.de> provoked the following text: >>That all depends on what video card you had/have, what brand it was, whether it >>was HGA, CGA, EGA, VGA, SVGA, what codepage you used... >Oh... I didn't know that... thx... It's never too late to learn. And God knows, i've still got a lot to learn! :-)) >>>so all the postings including ��� ('ae'/'oe'/'ue') won't display >>>correctly... :( >>Would it display correctly if you viewed the text in a DOS window? >Nope... :( > >Okay, so I need a font with the windows-charset but which looks like >OldSchoolDos, right? ;) Right. Only thing is, i don't know a font that answers to those criteria. You'll nred a DE or SE font... -- Peter Punk \ / ---\\\\--- / \ Visit my MIDI-site at http://members.xoom.com/miditation/index.html (I have added several new links) I wonder when we'll find the answer to all the april snow...
Marco Kirschke wrote: > > Hi Rasmus,.. > > Rasmus Klitgaard-Nielsen <pin...@cs.auc.dk> schrieb folgendes: > > >Try looking on www.microsoft.com for the file gc0651.exe, it contains > >the MS-Linedraw TTF, which looks just like the DOS fonts (and has > >non-ascii chars too) > > um? I donwloaded the file, and it contains the font MS-Linedraw TTF, but this > font looks exactly like Courier New not like the DOS-Font. :( > > Where can I get the real DOS-Font? I need it, because it is the only font I > know, which displays the ' (039) correctly. Yes, I know that Terminal displays > the ' correctly, too, but its char-height is too low, so that all ascii-arts > looks bad. :( > > BTW: How can I create my own fonts? Then I could copy&paste the chars from the > Dos-Box... ;)0 > -- > \\//o\__ __ (o) |\ /|\___ __ :-(o_)^(o_)-:[THA ULTIMATIVE] > .:::::::::. []\_/o ) / (\\ ||V||o\o ) /_ : < : //~\\||//|\ /| > :' __ __ ': ||\\_\||// ||\\_\o\:. _..._ .: ||\\|| ( ||V|| > :-( o)^( o)-: ||\\ \_/ :. '---' .: \\_\\||\\|| || How's this font? http://www.crosswinds.net/~be34269/files/vga.fon -- Ben Esacove bes...@hotmail.com
Hi peter,.. ppu...@damnthatspam.chello.nl (Peter Punk) schrieb folgendes: >It's never too late to learn. And God knows, i've still got a lot to learn! :-)) uhm... right... :D >Right. Only thing is, i don't know a font that answers to those criteria. damn... :( >You'll nred a DE or SE font... What the hell is a DE or SE font? Plz lemme know, i wanna learn more'n more... :) -- \\//o\__ __ (o) |\ /|\___ __ :-(o_)^(o_)-:[THA ULTIMATIVE] .:::::::::. []\_/o ) / (\\ ||V||o\o ) /_ : < : //~\\||//|\ /| :' __ __ ': ||\\_\||// ||\\_\o\:. _..._ .: ||\\|| ( ||V|| :-( o)^( o)-: ||\\ \_/ :. '---' .: \\_\\||\\|| ||
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 14:45:13 +0200, Marscho <Mar...@gmx.de> provoked the following text: >>It's never too late to learn. And God knows, i've still got a lot to learn! :-)) >uhm... right... :D <g> >>You'll need a DE or SE font... >What the hell is a DE or SE font? Plz lemme know, i wanna learn more'n >more... :) A German or a Swedish font. Back in the days when i used GEOS on my C64 that was a common description of a font. -- Peter Punk \ / ---\\\\--- / \ Visit my MIDI-site at http://members.xoom.com/miditation/index.html (I have added several new links) As far as I'm concerned, treachery will sometimes bring loyalty into question.
Hi Peter,.. ppu...@damnthatspam.chello.nl (Peter Punk) schrieb folgendes: >A German or a Swedish font. Thx... >Back in the days when i used GEOS on my C64 that was a common description >of a font. I used Geos on my C64, too, but I wasn't interested in the font description. I was just happy that I could draw (GeoPaint) and write (GeoWrite) on my C64. :D Maybe, I wasn't interested, cause I was around 8 years old... :))) Obascii: 1 ___ 2 / __| ___ 3/ / |__/ 4\ \__ |__\ 5 \___| 1 __ 2 / _| _ 3| (_ |_< 4 \__| 1 ,== 2 # #< 3 `== 1 ,- _ 2 `- " 1 C= -- \\//o\__ __ (o) |\ /|\___ __ :-(o_)^(o_)-:[THA ULTIMATIVE] .:::::::::. []\_/o ) / (\\ ||V||o\o ) /_ : < : //~\\||//|\ /| :' __ __ ': ||\\_\||// ||\\_\o\:. _..._ .: ||\\|| ( ||V|| :-( o)^( o)-: ||\\ \_/ :. '---' .: \\_\\||\\|| ||
On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 11:19:22 +0200, Marscho <Mar...@gmx.de> provoked the following text: >>Back in the days when i used GEOS on my C64 that was a common description >>of a font. >I used Geos on my C64, too, but I wasn't interested in the font >description. I was just happy that I could draw (GeoPaint) and write >(GeoWrite) on my C64. :D Maybe, I wasn't interested, cause I was around 8 >years old... :))) LOL!!! Then i guess you also weren't aware of what made GEOS so special (apart fronm being user-friendly). right? :-)) -- Peter Punk \ / ---\\\\--- / \ Visit my MIDI-site at http://members.xoom.com/miditation/index.html All pleasant things are either immoral, illegal or fattening.
Hi Peter,.. ppu...@damnthatspam.chello.nl (Peter Punk) schrieb folgendes: >LOL!!! Then i guess you also weren't aware of what made GEOS so special (apart >fronm being user-friendly). right? :-)) Hm, tell me what! When I saw GeOS the first time I really falled in love with the HiRes grapic with 16 Colors... :D -- \\//o\__ __ (o) |\ /|\___ __ :-(o_)^(o_)-:[THA ULTIMATIVE] .:::::::::. []\_/o ) / (\\ ||V||o\o ) /_ : < : //~\\||//|\ /| :' __ __ ': ||\\_\||// ||\\_\o\:. _..._ .: ||\\|| ( ||V|| :-( o)^( o)-: ||\\ \_/ :. '---' .: \\_\\||\\|| ||
Marscho wrote: > > Hi Peter,.. > > ppu...@damnthatspam.chello.nl (Peter Punk) schrieb folgendes: > > >LOL!!! Then i guess you also weren't aware of what made GEOS so special (apart > >fronm being user-friendly). right? :-)) > > Hm, tell me what! When I saw GeOS the first time I really falled in love > with the HiRes grapic with 16 Colors... :D I'm still a bit mad at myself for destroying/deleting the GEOS disk that came with my 1541-II (I would have liked to try GEOS again...) ObASCII: _______ |,-----.| || || |'-----'| |- ---=| |-------| __ '-------'''-' My Mac Plus... > -- > \\//o\__ __ (o) |\ /|\___ __ :-(o_)^(o_)-:[THA ULTIMATIVE] > .:::::::::. []\_/o ) / (\\ ||V||o\o ) /_ : < : //~\\||//|\ /| > :' __ __ ': ||\\_\||// ||\\_\o\:. _..._ .: ||\\|| ( ||V|| > :-( o)^( o)-: ||\\ \_/ :. '---' .: \\_\\||\\|| ||
On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 01:19:44 +0200, Marscho <Mar...@gmx.de> provoked the following text: >>LOL!!! Then i guess you also weren't aware of what made GEOS so special (apart >>fronm being user-friendly). right? :-)) >Hm, tell me what! When I saw GeOS the first time I really falled in love >with the HiRes grapic with 16 Colors... :D Ah yes, that good old 320x240... :-)) -- Peter Punk \ / ---\\\\--- / \ Visit my MIDI-site at http://members.xoom.com/miditation/index.html "In any world menu, Canada must be considered the vichyssoise of nations -- it's cold, half-French, and difficult to stir." -- Stuart Keate
On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 14:31:46 +0200, Rasmus Klitgaard-Nielsen <pin...@cs.auc.dk> provoked the following text: >> >LOL!!! Then i guess you also weren't aware of what made GEOS so special (apart >> >fronm being user-friendly). right? :-)) >> Hm, tell me what! When I saw GeOS the first time I really falled in love >> with the HiRes grapic with 16 Colors... :D >I'm still a bit mad at myself for destroying/deleting the GEOS disk that >came with my 1541-II (I would have liked to try GEOS again...) In that case, download a C64 emulator and ask around uin an emulators NG for a disk image of GEOS (preferably 2.1 or 3.0 if it's there. If you can read German i'd suggest you'd try 2.5 as well) >ObASCII: > > _______ >|,-----.| >|| || >|'-----'| >|- ---=| >|-------| __ >'-------'''-' >My Mac Plus... And that's a good one too! -- Peter Punk \ / ---\\\\--- / \ Visit my MIDI-site at http://members.xoom.com/miditation/index.html I didn't like the play, but I saw it under adverse conditions. The curtain was up.
Peter Punk wrote: > > On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 14:31:46 +0200, Rasmus Klitgaard-Nielsen <pin...@cs.auc.dk> > provoked the following text: > > In that case, download a C64 emulator and ask around uin an emulators NG for a > disk image of GEOS (preferably 2.1 or 3.0 if it's there. If you can read German > i'd suggest you'd try 2.5 as well) I got the impression that Berkeley *STILL SELLS*(!!!) GEOS - so that'd be piracy ;) > > >ObASCII: > > > > _______ > >|,-----.| / > >|| 0 || < Bongg! (Booting w/ "Happy Mac") > >|'-----'| \ > >|- ---=| > >|-------| __ > >'-------'''-' > >My Mac Plus... > > And that's a good one too! > -- > Peter Punk > \ / > ---\\\\--- > / \ > > Visit my MIDI-site at http://members.xoom.com/miditation/index.html > > I didn't like the play, but I saw it under adverse conditions. The curtain was up.
On Mon, 28 Aug 2000 14:47:07 +0200, Rasmus Klitgaard-Nielsen <pin...@cs.auc.dk> provoked the following text: >> In that case, download a C64 emulator and ask around uin an emulators NG for a >> disk image of GEOS (preferably 2.1 or 3.0 if it's there. If you can read German >> i'd suggest you'd try 2.5 as well) >I got the impression that Berkeley *STILL SELLS*(!!!) GEOS - so that'd >be piracy ;) Where did you get that info? It was my uhnderstanding that Berkely Softworks discontinued the production and sale for GEOS. -- Peter Punk \ / ---\\\\--- / \ Visit my MIDI-site at http://members.xoom.com/miditation/index.html Hacker's Law: The belief that enhanced understanding will necessarily stir a nation to action is one of mankind's oldest illusions.
On Mon, 28 Aug 2000 14:23:12 +0200, Marscho <Mar...@gmx.de> provoked the following text: >>>with the HiRes grapic with 16 Colors... :D >>Ah yes, that good old 320x240... :-)) >Yeah... :D >I'm still asking myself, how they break the 160x120x16 Limit? Normally >HiRes grafx was only avaible with 2 colors, right? Simple, there was no 160x120x16 limit, the C=64 had 2 graphics modes and 160x120 was only one of them. -- Peter Punk \ / ---\\\\--- / \ Visit my MIDI-site at http://members.xoom.com/miditation/index.html This land is full of trousers! this land is full of mausers! And pussycats to eat them when the sun goes down! -- Firesign Theater
Peter Punk wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Aug 2000 14:47:07 +0200, Rasmus Klitgaard-Nielsen <pin...@cs.auc.dk> > provoked the following text: > > >> In that case, download a C64 emulator and ask around uin an emulators NG for a > >> disk image of GEOS (preferably 2.1 or 3.0 if it's there. If you can read German > >> i'd suggest you'd try 2.5 as well) > >I got the impression that Berkeley *STILL SELLS*(!!!) GEOS - so that'd > >be piracy ;) > > Where did you get that info? It was my uhnderstanding that Berkely Softworks > discontinued the production and sale for GEOS. Hmm, I think it was on their homepage, but I might be mistaken. > -- > Peter Punk > \ / > ---\\\\--- > / \ > > Visit my MIDI-site at http://members.xoom.com/miditation/index.html > > Hacker's Law: The belief that enhanced understanding will necessarily stir a nation to action is one of mankind's oldest illusions.
Hi Peter,.. ppu...@damnthatspam.chello.nl (Peter Punk) schrieb folgendes: >>with the HiRes grapic with 16 Colors... :D > >Ah yes, that good old 320x240... :-)) Yeah... :D I'm still asking myself, how they break the 160x120x16 Limit? Normally HiRes grafx was only avaible with 2 colors, right? -- \\//o\__ __ (o) |\ /|\___ __ :-(o_)^(o_)-:[THA ULTIMATIVE] .:::::::::. []\_/o ) / (\\ ||V||o\o ) /_ : < : //~\\||//|\ /| :' __ __ ': ||\\_\||// ||\\_\o\:. _..._ .: ||\\|| ( ||V|| :-( o)^( o)-: ||\\ \_/ :. '---' .: \\_\\||\\|| ||
On Mon, 28 Aug 2000 22:50:21 +0200, Rasmus Klitgaard-Nielsen <pin...@cs.auc.dk> provoked the following text: >> >> In that case, download a C64 emulator and ask around uin an emulators NG for a >> >> disk image of GEOS (preferably 2.1 or 3.0 if it's there. If you can read German >> >> i'd suggest you'd try 2.5 as well) >> >I got the impression that Berkeley *STILL SELLS*(!!!) GEOS - so that'd >> >be piracy ;) >> Where did you get that info? It was my uhnderstanding that Berkely Softworks >> discontinued the production and sale for GEOS. >Hmm, I think it was on their homepage, but I might be mistaken. What's the URL? I'd like to take a look for myself. -- Peter Punk \ / ---\\\\--- / \ Visit my MIDI-site at http://members.xoom.com/miditation/index.html C++ should have been called B
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 07:06:32 +0200, Marscho <Mar...@gmx.de> provoked the following text: >>Simple, there was no 160x120x16 limit, the C=64 had 2 graphics modes and 160x120 >>was only one of them. >I always thought that the HiRes mode (320x240) allowed only 2 colors!?? There are a lot of programming tricks that you can apply on the C=64. Undocumented features, "illegal" op-codes, and registers that weren't sopposed to be there are a few of the things you can take advantage of as a programmer. -- Peter Punk \ / ---\\\\--- / \ Visit my MIDI-site at http://members.xoom.com/miditation/index.html C++ should have been called B
Hi Peter,.. ppu...@damnthatspam.chello.nl (Peter Punk) schrieb folgendes: >Simple, there was no 160x120x16 limit, the C=64 had 2 graphics modes and 160x120 >was only one of them. I always thought that the HiRes mode (320x240) allowed only 2 colors!?? -- \\//o\__ __ (o) |\ /|\___ __ :-(o_)^(o_)-:[THA ULTIMATIVE] .:::::::::. []\_/o ) / (\\ ||V||o\o ) /_ : < : //~\\||//|\ /| :' __ __ ': ||\\_\||// ||\\_\o\:. _..._ .: ||\\|| ( ||V|| :-( o)^( o)-: ||\\ \_/ :. '---' .: \\_\\||\\|| ||
Peter Punk wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Aug 2000 22:50:21 +0200, Rasmus Klitgaard-Nielsen <pin...@cs.auc.dk> > provoked the following text: > > >> >> In that case, download a C64 emulator and ask around uin an emulators NG for a > >> >> disk image of GEOS (preferably 2.1 or 3.0 if it's there. If you can read German > >> >> i'd suggest you'd try 2.5 as well) > >> >I got the impression that Berkeley *STILL SELLS*(!!!) GEOS - so that'd > >> >be piracy ;) > >> Where did you get that info? It was my uhnderstanding that Berkely Softworks > >> discontinued the production and sale for GEOS. > >Hmm, I think it was on their homepage, but I might be mistaken. > > What's the URL? I'd like to take a look for myself. http://www.cmdweb.com/cbm/misc/pricelist.asp#Software6 But $44.00 for Geos 64 ??? > -- > Peter Punk > \ / > ---\\\\--- > / \ > > Visit my MIDI-site at http://members.xoom.com/miditation/index.html > > C++ should have been called B
On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 19:55:18 -0400, Krogg <kro...@gtcom.net> wrote: >Sherry wrote: >> >> I use Topaz New2 font. >> >And that makes you cool....... > >If anyone wants a very cool font for ascii-art, >you can get it from my homepage,featured in my sig. So, can anyone tell me what program should I use to make .fon-files? That is bitmap-fonts... As an oldschool Amigan, I don't like the TTF nature of topaz new.. It's supposed to be bitmapped.. :-) -- CBM, PEZ, and TI-calc nut, Scout, Glider pilot, Helpdesk-person Email: vjo...@sci.fi, URL: http://www.sci.fi/~vjouppi/ GSM: +358-40-5679999, IRCNet: Jope "I see", said the blind man as he picked up his hammer and saw.
On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 01:05:00 +0200, Rasmus Klitgaard-Nielsen <pin...@cs.auc.dk> provoked the following text: >> >> >I got the impression that Berkeley *STILL SELLS*(!!!) GEOS - so that'd >> >> >be piracy ;) >> >> Where did you get that info? It was my uhnderstanding that Berkely Softworks >> >> discontinued the production and sale for GEOS. >> >Hmm, I think it was on their homepage, but I might be mistaken. >> What's the URL? I'd like to take a look for myself. >http://www.cmdweb.com/cbm/misc/pricelist.asp#Software6 That's not BSW's page, it's CMD's site. I already knew about it since before i've been a subscriber of Commodore World (from #1 to i think it was #22), i'm still the proud owner of an FD4000 and a few versions of GEOS64... >But $44.00 for Geos 64 ??? The last time i checked their prices was in 1998, just before i bought my first PC. But i know, it's very steep, but those that are still using their C=64 are true hobbyists and are therefor often willing to pay for something they don't have yet or to replace something. -- Peter Punk \ / ---\\\\--- / \ Visit my MIDI-site at http://members.xoom.com/miditation/index.html Baker's First Law of Federal Geometry: A block grant is a solid mass of money surrounded on all sides by governors.
On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 00:22:20 GMT, Nate/DAC <nat...@kscable.com> provoked the following text: >> >> discontinued the production and sale for GEOS. >> >Hmm, I think it was on their homepage, but I might be mistaken. >> What's the URL? I'd like to take a look for myself. >www.cmdweb.com > >Creative Micro Designs is in charge of GEOS for the C64, has been for >quite some time now. Yes, copying it is illegal. But still they sell GeoCopy... >(Curious, I skipped most of this thread, because the Subject: line... >looks like I shoulda threw in my 2 cents a little earlier). <g> I think so too :-) -- Peter Punk \ / ---\\\\--- / \ Visit my MIDI-site at http://members.xoom.com/miditation/index.html Life is what happens while you're making plans.
On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 00:54:37 GMT, Nate/DAC <nat...@kscable.com> provoked the following text: >> Simple, there was no 160x120x16 limit, the C=64 had 2 graphics modes and >> 160x120 was only one of them. > >The C64 has many more than just two graphics modes, most of which are >based on the two you're thinking of. I meant the resolution, not the other modes that could be obtained by smart programming. >There is 320x200 mode in 16 colors, usually referred to as "hires" mode, >with restrictions on where those colors may be placed (particularly, only >two allowed in each 8x8 pixel area), but all 16 colors are available ove >the entire screen. GEOS uses this mode. > >The 160x200 mode, referred to as "multicolor" mode, also offers all 16 >colors, and allows more flexibility in placement (up to four colors per >4x8 pixel area, including the common background color). Most good C64 >artists use this mode. Most people that hear that the C=64 had only 16 colors do not know that you can optically increase the number of colors by cross-hatching and/or interlacing. I used to have a C=64 drawing program that was capable of displaying 256 colors by both interlacing and cross-hatching. The program worked in 320x200 but would eventually give you an horrendous headache :-)) However, if you converted a .GIF file using GoDot to an interlaced bitmap, it looked wonderful! >> There are a lot of programming tricks that you can apply on the C=64. > >It is these tricks that lead to the other verious video modes of the >C64. These include options such as 320x200 with up to 136 colors (though >the useable range is around 55-60 colors) You forgot to mention that those 55-60 colors were only obtainable through cross-hatching. >Downside is mode of these extended video modes really hog the processor, >leaving very little processor time available to do anything useful with >those displays (CMD Super CPU changes this, of course). I've never been lucky enough to get me a SuperCPU, but i had a Flash-8 which sped the C=64 up to 8MHz. which also made a great difference. -- Peter Punk \ / ---\\\\--- / \ Visit my MIDI-site at http://members.xoom.com/miditation/index.html Idiot Box, n.: The part of the envelope that tells a person where to place the stamp when they can't quite figure it out for themselves.
> >Creative Micro Designs is in charge of GEOS for the C64, has been for > >quite some time now. Yes, copying it is illegal. > > But still they sell GeoCopy... I should rephrase that - it's illegal if you don't already own the program. -- _____________________________________________________ | . o888 | | _ _ _|_ _ _| _ _ Your Commodore 88' 8P" | | |/ \ _\ T / \ / | _\ / ` 64 and 128 88 | | | | / | | L-' [ | / | [ Specialist 88. [=. | | | | \_| \_ \_. \_| \_| \_. "888 | `--------x-----------------------------------x--------' \ http://home.kscable.com/natedac / `-------------------------------'
> >> discontinued the production and sale for GEOS. > >Hmm, I think it was on their homepage, but I might be mistaken. > > What's the URL? I'd like to take a look for myself. www.cmdweb.com Creative Micro Designs is in charge of GEOS for the C64, has been for quite some time now. Yes, copying it is illegal. (Curious, I skipped most of this thread, because the Subject: line... looks like I shoulda threw in my 2 cents a little earlier). -- _____________________________________________________ | . o888 | | _ _ _|_ _ _| _ _ Your Commodore 88' 8P" | | |/ \ _\ T / \ / | _\ / ` 64 and 128 88 | | | | / | | L-' [ | / | [ Specialist 88. [=. | | | | \_| \_ \_. \_| \_| \_. "888 | `--------x-----------------------------------x--------' \ http://home.kscable.com/natedac / `-------------------------------'
> Simple, there was no 160x120x16 limit, the C=64 had 2 graphics modes and > 160x120 was only one of them. > I always thought that the HiRes mode (320x240) allowed only 2 colors!?? The C64 has many more than just two graphics modes, most of which are based on the two you're thinking of. To avoid boring you guys with details (THis is an ASCII Art discussion group, not a C64 forum :), let's say this: There is 320x200 mode in 16 colors, usually referred to as "hires" mode, with restrictions on where those colors may be placed (particularly, only two allowed in each 8x8 pixel area), but all 16 colors are available ove the entire screen. GEOS uses this mode. The 160x200 mode, referred to as "multicolor" mode, also offers all 16 colors, and allows more flexibility in placement (up to four colors per 4x8 pixel area, including the common background color). Most good C64 artists use this mode. > There are a lot of programming tricks that you can apply on the C=64. It is these tricks that lead to the other verious video modes of the C64. These include options such as 320x200 with up to 136 colors (though the useable range is around 55-60 colors) depending on your painting style and the colors you choose to use in your image. Downside is mode of these extended video modes really hog the processor, leaving very little processor time available to do anything useful with those displays (CMD Super CPU changes this, of course). -- _____________________________________________________ | . o888 | | _ _ _|_ _ _| _ _ Your Commodore 88' 8P" | | |/ \ _\ T / \ / | _\ / ` 64 and 128 88 | | | | / | | L-' [ | / | [ Specialist 88. [=. | | | | \_| \_ \_. \_| \_| \_. "888 | `--------x-----------------------------------x--------' \ http://home.kscable.com/natedac / `-------------------------------'
Hi Peter,.. ppu...@damnthatspam.chello.nl (Peter Punk) schrieb folgendes: >>Okay, so I need a font with the windows-charset but which looks like >>OldSchoolDos, right? ;) > >Right. Only thing is, i don't know a font that answers to those criteria. You'll >nred a DE or SE font... And now, I found the nearly perfect FONT. It displays german chars correctly and looks like OldSchoolDOS... :) It is from the Math-Prog Derive. -- \\//o\__ __ (o) |\ /|\___ __ :-(o_)^(o_)-:[THA ULTIMATIVE] .:::::::::. []\_/o ) / (\\ ||V||o\o ) /_ : < : //~\\||//|\ /| :' __ __ ': ||\\_\||// ||\\_\o\:. _..._ .: ||\\|| ( ||V|| :-( o)^( o)-: ||\\ \_/ :. '---' .: \\_\\||\\|| ||
On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 22:28:04 GMT, Nate/DAC <nat...@kscable.com> provoked the following text: >> >Creative Micro Designs is in charge of GEOS for the C64, has been for >> >quite some time now. Yes, copying it is illegal. >> But still they sell GeoCopy... >I should rephrase that - it's illegal if you don't already own the >program. I knew that's what you meant, i was just teasing you :-)) -- Peter Punk \ / ---\\\\--- / \ Visit my MIDI-site at http://members.xoom.com/miditation/index.html Putt's Law: Technology is dominated by two types of people: Those who understand what they do not manage. Those who manage what they do not understand.
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 22:20:23 +0200, Marscho <Mar...@gmx.de> provoked the following text: >>>Okay, so I need a font with the windows-charset but which looks like >>>OldSchoolDos, right? ;) >>Right. Only thing is, i don't know a font that answers to those criteria. You'll >>need a DE or SE font... >And now, I found the nearly perfect FONT. It displays german chars >correctly and looks like OldSchoolDOS... :) It is from the Math-Prog >Derive. Great, where did you find it? -- Peter Punk \ / ---\\\\--- / \ Visit my MIDI-site at http://members.xoom.com/miditation/index.html "Laughter is the closest distance between two people." -- Victor Borge
Hi Peter,..
ppu...@damnthatspam.chello.nl (Peter Punk) schrieb folgendes:
>Great, where did you find it?
I said this before (*g*): It is from my math-program. I can upload it to
my hp-server.
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On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 18:52:05 -0400, nob...@nowhere.com posted: >Use fixedsys. It's a TTF and is better than terminal and most things >look better than in courier new. > Fixedsys is not truetype, it's a bitmap font which renders at 9pt. Doesn't stop me using it to view news, however. (In Free Agent) I think you'll need to do some registry editing to persuade OE to use FixedSys. Kind Regards, -Martin -- Martin Atkins - Reply address is ROT13 encoded
On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 12:36:19 +0100, "Stuart Moore" <stu...@bigfoot.com> posted: >I'm reading with OL Express on Win98 (Terrible, as any time it sees // then >another character it turns it into a file:// hyperlink which seriously >messes some up, but that's not my point). > >At the moment I'm having to read with Courier New, but I get the feeling >that because this is a serif font it's making some pictures look weird - is >there a standard Win98 sans-serif font that is fixed width? > http://website.lineone.net/~martin.atkins/ada/ Somewhere on there (I forget the exact filename) is a list of known monospaced fonts on certain platforms. Check out the Windows list and see if you have any of the fonts listed. Go through the ones you have until you find one you like. Kind Regards, -Martin -- Martin Atkins - Reply address is ROT13 encoded
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