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Original Usenet message from alt.ascii-art, 30 Aug 2000.
Re: Suggested Fonts (Win)

Re: Suggested Fonts (Win)

On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 00:54:37 GMT, Nate/DAC <nat...@kscable.com> provoked the
following text:

>> Simple, there was no 160x120x16 limit, the C=64 had 2 graphics modes and
>> 160x120 was only one of them. 
>
>The C64 has many more than just two graphics modes, most of which are
>based on the two you're thinking of.  

I meant the resolution, not the other modes that could be obtained by smart
programming.

>There is 320x200 mode in 16 colors, usually referred to as "hires" mode,
>with restrictions on where those colors may be placed (particularly, only
>two allowed in each 8x8 pixel area), but all 16 colors are available ove
>the entire screen.  GEOS uses this mode.
>
>The 160x200 mode, referred to as "multicolor" mode, also offers all 16
>colors, and allows more flexibility in placement (up to four colors per
>4x8 pixel area, including the common background color).  Most good C64
>artists use this mode.

Most people that hear that the C=64 had only 16 colors do not know that you can
optically increase the number of colors by cross-hatching and/or interlacing.
I used to have a C=64 drawing program that was capable of displaying 256 colors
by both interlacing and cross-hatching. The program worked in 320x200 but would
eventually give you an horrendous headache :-))
However, if you converted a .GIF file using GoDot to an interlaced bitmap, it
looked wonderful!

>> There are a lot of programming tricks that you can apply on the C=64.
>
>It is these tricks that lead to the other verious video modes of the
>C64.  These include options such as 320x200 with up to 136 colors (though
>the useable range is around 55-60 colors) 

You forgot to mention that those 55-60 colors were only obtainable through
cross-hatching.

>Downside is mode of these extended video modes really hog the processor,
>leaving very little processor time available to do anything useful with
>those displays (CMD Super CPU changes this, of course).

I've never been lucky enough to get me a SuperCPU, but i had a Flash-8 which
sped the C=64 up to 8MHz. which also made a great difference.
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