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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 7 Oct 1998.
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alt.ascii-art · 20 messages · 7 Oct 1998 - 14 Oct 1998
Lester5374 <les...@aol.commander> ASCII art 7 Oct 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
>From: Krogg <kro...@gtcom.net>

>I thank Joan,Lester,Flump, and JRO for the nice flooding of ascii pics
>that they have let loose on this ng.Thanks a lot,its really refreshing.
>
>I too will share some ascii art with you all. in my following posts.

     Sure. I'm going to be ignoring any wars around here except for an
occational ASCII comment.

     ___   ___                                  ___   ___
    / _ \ / _ \      (C) 1998 Lester - AMC     / _ \ / _ \
   | (_) | (_) |                              | (_) | (_) |
  (_)___/ \___/  "You started it!"            _\___/ \___(_)
 / /         \ \  /           "No! YOU DID!" / /         \ \
| |      _____| |"No you did."             \| |_____      | |
| |     |_____| |"you did."   "No, you did."| |_____|     | |
| |           | |  "you did."     "you did."| |           | |
 \_\ _     _ /_/ "you did."     "you did."   \_\ _     _ /_/
  ( | )   ( | )    "You."           "You."    ( | )   ( | )
   V V     V V   "You."              "You."    V V     V V

Haha.

     .-~~-.
    (_^..^_)
Lester||||AMC


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Krogg <kro...@gtcom.net> ASCII art 7 Oct 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
I thank Joan,Lester,Flump, and JRO for the nice flooding of ascii pics
that they have let loose on this ng.Thanks a lot,its really refreshing.

I too will share some ascii art with you all. in my following posts.

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joris bellenger <svz...@xs4all.nl> ASCII art 8 Oct 1998 00:00 · permalink · report

Colin Douthwaite wrote:

> On Thu, 08 Oct 1998 01:13:50 GMT, Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >Just correcting the credits!
>       ___   ___                                  ___   ___
> >    / _ \ / _ \                                / _ \ / _ \
> >   | (_) | (_) |                              | (_) | (_) |
> >  (_)___/ \___/  "You started it!"            _\___/ \___(_)
> > / /         \ \  /           "No! YOU DID!" / /         \ \
> >| |      _____| |"No you did."             \| |_____      | |
> >| |     |_____| |"you did."   "No, you did."| |_____|     | |
> >| |           | |  "you did."     "you did."| |           | |
> > \_\ _     _ /_/ "you did."     "you did."   \_\ _     _ /_/
> >  ( | )   ( | )    "You."           "You."    ( | )   ( | )
> >   V V     V V   "You."              "You."    V V     V V
> >By Lester - AMC
>
> Those are not Steins; they are nothing like Steins; they never were
> anything like Steins; and they never will like Steins whether
> copyrighted, uncopyrighted, mirrored, reversed, mutated, rotated or
> copulated.

Cloned?

>
>
> They are quite clearly Figlet Piggybanks with slots for the coins.
>
>   [ Self-attached credit by Pete Casso removed from Lester's picture
>     of coin boxes. ]
>
> Casso has boobed again!
>
> HooRoo,



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Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> ASCII art 8 Oct 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Just correcting the credits!
     ___   ___                                  ___   ___
    / _ \ / _ \                                / _ \ / _ \
   | (_) | (_) |                              | (_) | (_) |
  (_)___/ \___/  "You started it!"            _\___/ \___(_)
 / /         \ \  /           "No! YOU DID!" / /         \ \
| |      _____| |"No you did."             \| |_____      | |
| |     |_____| |"you did."   "No, you did."| |_____|     | |
| |           | |  "you did."     "you did."| |           | |
 \_\ _     _ /_/ "you did."     "you did."   \_\ _     _ /_/
  ( | )   ( | )    "You."           "You."    ( | )   ( | )
   V V     V V   "You."              "You."    V V     V V
By Lester - AMC
The 'steins after Pete Casso

=========================================================
[]   .oo     Visit the Gallery of the 'steins!         []
[]  (  -)   http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/        []
[]   " "   Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes  []
=========================================================

> >.    ___   ___                                  ___   ___
> >    / _ \ / _ \                                / _ \ / _ \
> >   | (_) | (_) |                              | (_) | (_) |
> >  (_)___/ \___/  "You started it!"            _\___/ \___(_)
> > / /         \ \  /           "No! YOU DID!" / /         \ \
> >| |      _____| |"No you did."             \| |_____      | |
> >| |     |_____| |"you did."   "No, you did."| |_____|     | |
> >| |           | |  "you did."     "you did."| |           | |
> > \_\ _     _ /_/ "you did."     "you did."   \_\ _     _ /_/
> >  ( | )   ( | )    "You."           "You."    ( | )   ( | )
> >   V V     V V   "You."              "You."    V V     V V
> >By Lester - AMC
>
> False attributes by Mr. Casso - removed for a second time.

Geez, guys, you remind me of a couple first graders.  The pic is actually
really acurate. You're doing pretty much the same thing! (Sorry, couldn't
keep from saying that much longer.)
    -Sarah

Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>     ___   ___                                  ___   ___
>    / _ \ / _ \                                / _ \ / _ \
>   | (_) | (_) |                              | (_) | (_) |
>  (_)___/ \___/  "You started it!"            _\___/ \___(_)
> / /         \ \  /           "No! YOU DID!" / /         \ \
>| |      _____| |"No you did."             \| |_____      | |
>| |     |_____| |"you did."   "No, you did."| |_____|     | |
>| |           | |  "you did."     "you did."| |           | |
> \_\ _     _ /_/ "you did."     "you did."   \_\ _     _ /_/
>  ( | )   ( | )    "You."           "You."    ( | )   ( | )
>   V V     V V   "You."              "You."    V V     V V
>By Lester - AMC

Spurious attributes added by Mr. Casso - removed once again.

Bye,

On Thu, 08 Oct 1998 01:13:50 GMT, Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>Just correcting the credits!
      ___   ___                                  ___   ___
>    / _ \ / _ \                                / _ \ / _ \
>   | (_) | (_) |                              | (_) | (_) |
>  (_)___/ \___/  "You started it!"            _\___/ \___(_)
> / /         \ \  /           "No! YOU DID!" / /         \ \
>| |      _____| |"No you did."             \| |_____      | |
>| |     |_____| |"you did."   "No, you did."| |_____|     | |
>| |           | |  "you did."     "you did."| |           | |
> \_\ _     _ /_/ "you did."     "you did."   \_\ _     _ /_/
>  ( | )   ( | )    "You."           "You."    ( | )   ( | )
>   V V     V V   "You."              "You."    V V     V V
>By Lester - AMC

Those are not Steins; they are nothing like Steins; they never were 
anything like Steins; and they never will like Steins whether
copyrighted, uncopyrighted, mirrored, reversed, mutated, rotated or
copulated.

They are quite clearly Figlet Piggybanks with slots for the coins.  

  [ Self-attached credit by Pete Casso removed from Lester's picture
    of coin boxes. ]

Casso has boobed again!

HooRoo,

Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> ASCII art 9 Oct 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
joris bellenger wrote:
> Cloned?

Yes, Figlet cloned!
     ___   ___                                  ___   ___
    / _ \ / _ \                                / _ \ / _ \
   | (_) | (_) |                              | (_) | (_) |
  (_)___/ \___/  "You started it!"            _\___/ \___(_)
 / /         \ \  /           "No! YOU DID!" / /         \ \
| |      _____| |"No you did."             \| |_____      | |
| |     |_____| |"you did."   "No, you did."| |_____|     | |
| |           | |  "you did."     "you did."| |           | |
 \_\ _     _ /_/ "you did."     "you did."   \_\ _     _ /_/
  ( | )   ( | )    "You."           "You."    ( | )   ( | )
   V V     V V   "You."              "You."    V V     V V
By Lester - AMC
The 'steins after Pete Casso 

=========================================================
[]   .oo     Visit the Gallery of the 'steins!         []
[]  (  -)   http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/        []
[]   " "   Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes  []
=========================================================

Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> ASCII art 10 Oct 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
.    ___   ___                                  ___   ___
    / _ \ / _ \                                / _ \ / _ \
   | (_) | (_) |                              | (_) | (_) |
  (_)___/ \___/  "You started it!"            _\___/ \___(_)
 / /         \ \  /           "No! YOU DID!" / /         \ \
| |      _____| |"No you did."             \| |_____      | |
| |     |_____| |"you did."   "No, you did."| |_____|     | |
| |           | |  "you did."     "you did."| |           | |
 \_\ _     _ /_/ "you did."     "you did."   \_\ _     _ /_/
  ( | )   ( | )    "You."           "You."    ( | )   ( | )
   V V     V V   "You."              "You."    V V     V V
By Lester - AMC
The 'steins after Pete Casso

             / ^ \
           /       \
          /___(#)___\
         '===========`
        :=.' -   - '.=:
        '=(\ 9   9 /)='
           (  (_)  )
           /`-vvv-'\                    _______
          /         \                  |.-----.|
         / /|,,,,,|\ \                 ||     ||
        /_//  /^\  \\_\                ||_____||
 cfbd   WW(  (   )  )WW._ _ _          `--)-(--`
After    __\,,\ /,,/__       )  __o   __[=== o]__
 jgs    (______Y______)     (__(__`> |:::::::::::|
                                " "  `-=========-`
      COLINTROLL on Patrol            `O + + + O'
>True attributes added by Mr. Casso - removed once again by Colintroll

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=========================================================
[]   .oo     Visit the Gallery of the 'steins!         []
[]  (  -)   http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/        []
[]   " "   Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes  []
=========================================================

Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>.    ___   ___                                  ___   ___
>    / _ \ / _ \                                / _ \ / _ \
>   | (_) | (_) |                              | (_) | (_) |
>  (_)___/ \___/  "You started it!"            _\___/ \___(_)
> / /         \ \  /           "No! YOU DID!" / /         \ \
>| |      _____| |"No you did."             \| |_____      | |
>| |     |_____| |"you did."   "No, you did."| |_____|     | |
>| |           | |  "you did."     "you did."| |           | |
> \_\ _     _ /_/ "you did."     "you did."   \_\ _     _ /_/
>  ( | )   ( | )    "You."           "You."    ( | )   ( | )
>   V V     V V   "You."              "You."    V V     V V
>By Lester - AMC

False attributes by Mr. Casso - removed for a second time.

Repeatedly,

Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> ASCII art 10 Oct 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Sarah Day wrote:
> Geez, guys, you remind me of a couple first graders.  The pic is actually
> really acurate.

That's what Joris also said, the pic is a (Figlet) clone.

So I am taking the opportunity to clarify: if you use a 'stein character for
your pic, give credit to yourself, e.g. "by Lester - AMC" and add the
acknowledgement "The 'steins after Pete Casso" Thanks!

.    ___   ___                                  ___   ___
    / _ \ / _ \                                / _ \ / _ \
   | (_) | (_) |                              | (_) | (_) |
  (_)___/ \___/  "You started it!"            _\___/ \___(_)
 / /         \ \  /           "No! YOU DID!" / /         \ \
| |      _____| |"No you did."             \| |_____      | |
| |     |_____| |"you did."   "No, you did."| |_____|     | |
| |           | |  "you did."     "you did."| |           | |
 \_\ _     _ /_/ "you did."     "you did."   \_\ _     _ /_/
  ( | )   ( | )    "You."           "You."    ( | )   ( | )
   V V     V V   "You."              "You."    V V     V V
By Lester - AMC
The 'steins after Pete Casso

=========================================================
[]   .oo     Visit the Gallery of the 'steins!         []
[]  (  -)   http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/        []
[]   " "   Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes  []
=========================================================

Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> ASCII art 12 Oct 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Lester5374 <les...@aol.commander> wrote:

>     No, I was just trying to inject some humor into the situation, 
> but I guess I'll just leave it to the two of you. I don't agree 
> with what he did, but I don't want to get in a holy war about it either.  

Tough biccies...too late...you entered the war with your postings.


> He'll just go away. 

That shows that you have not been in this newsgroup very long. :-(


> In my opinion, YOU are the one that is keeping him going. 

Casso needs no one to keep him going.  

I'm responding more than usual to right now until Tweeter gets back
to complete some unfinished dirty jobs.  


> Hold on a sec . . . I've just copyrighted everything I've said in 
> this entire post, you cannot respond to it without infringing on them.  

Bzzzt, Wrong!  

Limited quoting from copyrighted material is permitted in the big
outside world. 

Quoting from Usenet postings, which are all de facto copyrights
to the authors, is permitted without limitation. But it is bad practice
to quoting an entire message and then just add a single "Me Too" at the end.


>     I'm sick of this already.

Not as sick of it as many in this newsgroup have become since Casso
arrived in alt.ascii-art...you have not been here to see the 
everlasting Stein War episodes over the past 2 years.

It is actually quite remarkable to look back and see that the 
present outbreak arose from my History article in my 5th Anniverary
postings in September crediting Casso as creator of the Steins.

He chose to take what I had written as an insult and things have 
just worsened since then.


So...if you personally don't like the heat then stay out of the 
kitchen. On Usenet if you dish it out you have to be willing to take 
the flak and flames in return...them's the ground rules!  


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                                     (      (  )( @@  (  )) ) (
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    <   ____)                      ) (  ( )( ()@ \ o / (@@@@@ ( ()( )
 /--|  |(  o|                     (  )  ) ((@@(@@ !o! @@@@(@@@@@)() (
|   >   \___|                      ) ( @)@@)@ /---\-/---\ )@@@@@()( )
|  /---------+                    (@@@@)@@@( // /-----\ \\ @@@)@@@@@(  .
| |    \ =========______/|@@@@@@@@@@@@@(@@@ // @ /---\ @ \\ @(@@@(@@@ .  .
|  \   \\=========------\|@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ O @@@ /-\ @@@ O @@(@@)@@ @   .
|   \   \----+--\-)))           @@@@@@@@@@ !! @@@@ % @@@@ !! @@)@@@ .. .
|   |\______|_)))/             .    @@@@@@ !! @@ /---\ @@ !! @@(@@@ @ . .
 \__==========           *        .    @@ /MM  /\O   O/\  MM\ @@@@@@@. .
    |   |-\   \          (       .      @ !!!  !! \-/ !!  !!! @@@@@ .
    |   |  \   \          )      .     .  @@@@ !!     !!  .(. @.  .. .
    |   |   \   \        (    /   .(  . \)). ( |O  )( O! @@@@ . )      .
    |   |   /   /         ) (      )).  ((  .) !! ((( !! @@ (. ((. .   .
    |   |  /   /   ()  ))   ))   .( ( ( ) ). ( !!  )( !! ) ((   ))  ..
    |   |_<   /   ( ) ( (  ) )   (( )  )).) ((/ |  (  | \(  )) ((. ).
____<_____\\__\__(___)_))_((_(____))__(_(___.oooO_____Oooo.(_(_)_)((_


TTFN,

Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> ASCII art 12 Oct 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Lester - AMC wrote:
To Colin, 

     I am perfectly fine with Pete's credits added to this since, after all,
it really is the frogstiens that are rendered there with Figlet, I had almost
nothing to do with the picture. I was just making some light-hearted
commentary with it, I don't consider this my intellectual property at all.

Colin Douthwaite wrote:
>Then why did you copyright it?

Lester - AMC wrote:
>>     It was sarcasm.
>>     The entire picture was a joke.

And the bickering is embarrassing to Lester as well, my apologies. I think I
will close this thread and write something on Figlet Frogsteins.

.    ___   ___                                  ___   ___
    / _ \ / _ \                                / _ \ / _ \
   | (_) | (_) |                              | (_) | (_) |
  (_)___/ \___/  "You started it!"            _\___/ \___(_)
 / /         \ \  /           "No! YOU DID!" / /         \ \
| |      _____| |"No you did."             \| |_____      | |
| |     |_____| |"you did."   "No, you did."| |_____|     | |
| |           | |  "you did."     "you did."| |           | |
 \_\ _     _ /_/ "you did."     "you did."   \_\ _     _ /_/
  ( | )   ( | )    "You."           "You."    ( | )   ( | )
   V V     V V   "You."              "You."    V V     V V
By Lester - AMC
The 'steins after Pete Casso
=========================================================
[]   .oo     Visit the Gallery of the 'steins!         []
[]  (  -)   http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/        []
[]   " "   Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes  []
=========================================================

Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> ASCII art 12 Oct 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
.    ___   ___                                  ___   ___
    / _ \ / _ \                                / _ \ / _ \
   | (_) | (_) |                              | (_) | (_) |
  (_)___/ \___/  "You started it!"            _\___/ \___(_)
 / /         \ \  /           "No! YOU DID!" / /         \ \
| |      _____| |"No you did."             \| |_____      | |
| |     |_____| |"you did."   "No, you did."| |_____|     | |
| |           | |  "you did."     "you did."| |           | |
 \_\ _     _ /_/ "you did."     "you did."   \_\ _     _ /_/
  ( | )   ( | )    "You."           "You."    ( | )   ( | )
   V V     V V   "You."              "You."    V V     V V
By Lester - AMC
The 'steins after Pete Casso

The above pic show Frogsteins, several people have said that too, so
acknowledgement where acknowledgement is due, isn't it so, Colin?

You have removed the acknowledgement for the 5th time now.

=========================================================
[]   .oo     Visit the Gallery of the 'steins!         []
[]  (  -)   http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/        []
[]   " "   Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes  []
=========================================================

Lester5374 <les...@aol.commander> ASCII art 12 Oct 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
>From: Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca>

     To Colin, 

     I am perfectly fine with Pete's credits added to this since, after all, it
really is the frogstiens that are rendered there with Figlet, I had almost
nothing to do with the picture. I was just making some light-hearted commentary
with it, I don't consider this my intellectual property at all.

>.    ___   ___                                  ___   ___
>    / _ \ / _ \                                / _ \ / _ \
>   | (_) | (_) |                              | (_) | (_) |
>  (_)___/ \___/  "You started it!"            _\___/ \___(_)
> / /         \ \  /           "No! YOU DID!" / /         \ \
>| |      _____| |"No you did."             \| |_____      | |
>| |     |_____| |"you did."   "No, you did."| |_____|     | |
>| |           | |  "you did."     "you did."| |           | |
> \_\ _     _ /_/ "you did."     "you did."   \_\ _     _ /_/
>  ( | )   ( | )    "You."           "You."    ( | )   ( | )
>   V V     V V   "You."              "You."    V V     V V
>By Lester - AMC
>The 'steins after Pete Casso

>The above pic show Frogsteins, several people have said that too, so
>acknowledgement where acknowledgement is due, isn't it so, Colin?
>
>You have removed the acknowledgement for the 5th time now.

     .-~~-.
    (_^..^_)
Lester||||AMC


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Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>You have removed the acknowledgement for the 5th time now.

Lester's original:

-------------------------------------------------------------
> From les...@aol.commander Thu Oct  8 06:53:00 1998
> Date: 7 Oct 1998 12:03:57 GMT
> Message-ID: <199...@ng49.aol.com>

>      ___   ___                                  ___   ___
>     / _ \ / _ \      (C) 1998 Lester - AMC     / _ \ / _ \
>    | (_) | (_) |                              | (_) | (_) |
>   (_)___/ \___/  "You started it!"            _\___/ \___(_)
>  / /         \ \  /           "No! YOU DID!" / /         \ \
> | |      _____| |"No you did."             \| |_____      | |
> | |     |_____| |"you did."   "No, you did."| |_____|     | |
> | |           | |  "you did."     "you did."| |           | |
>  \_\ _     _ /_/ "you did."     "you did."   \_\ _     _ /_/
>   ( | )   ( | )    "You."           "You."    ( | )   ( | )
>    V V     V V   "You."              "You."    V V     V V
--------------------------------------------------------------

Bzzzt Wrong! It's still there, Mr.Casso...look, look, look...
"(C) 1998 Lester - AMC" clear as day for everyone to see 
unless they choose not to see it or ignore it or remove it and/or
distort it like you Mr. Casso.  

Apologies though, I think I miscounted...the last time was actually 
the 4th time only. 

This will make it the 5th time I have needed to remove your 
uncalled-for, unwarranted tampering with Lester's picture by adding 
your own attributes yourself without justification.  


Just more ongoing Casso objectionable behaviour which you claim has 
reduced since Tweeter departed...strange I have not noticed any such
reduction.

Perhaps you have put yourself in your killfile and so you are no 
longer seeing your obnoxious postings?  

Let me assure you Mr.Casso your postings are still there and are 
seen by all those who have not put you into their killfiles hoping 
against hope that you will go away.


You would no doubt be in "Cassotopia" or "PKwaland" if everyone 
would killfile you so that you could post whatever garbage you chose 
to post into this newsgroup totally unchallenged.  

Rest assured, I for one will never meet your request to killfile 
you and give you a Blank Cheque (aka Notepad Editor ) in this newsgroup.

Observantly,

Lester5374 <les...@aol.commander> wrote:


>     To Colin, 

>     I am perfectly fine with Pete's credits added to this since, 
> after all, it really is the frogstiens that are rendered there 
> with Figlet, I had almost nothing to do with the picture. I was 
> just making some light-hearted commentary with it, 

There's nothing light-hearted about what Casso has been doing in 
this newsgroup alt.ascii-art.


> I don't consider this my intellectual property at all.  

Then why did you copyright it?


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Lester5374 <les...@aol.commander> ASCII art 12 Oct 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
>From: Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz>

>>     To Colin, 
>
>>     I am perfectly fine with Pete's credits added to this since, 
>> after all, it really is the frogstiens that are rendered there 
>> with Figlet, I had almost nothing to do with the picture. I was 
>> just making some light-hearted commentary with it, 
>
>There's nothing light-hearted about what Casso has been doing in 
>this newsgroup alt.ascii-art.

     No, there isn't.

>> I don't consider this my intellectual property at all.  
>
>Then why did you copyright it?

     It was sarcasm.

>But...whatever you say goes...if _YOU_ as the author say so...and 
>_not_ Casso. 
>
>After all it was/is your original picture and that original carries 
>your copyright. 

     The entire picture was a joke.

>Casso never makes light-hearted jokes about his copyrighted 
>material...or haven't you noticed?  

     I haven't.

>And I guess you also hadn't noticed that Casso had stripped your own
>copyright line "(C) 1998 Lester - AMC" out of all his reposts of your
>picture?  He was doing exactly the thing Casso everlastingly 
>complains about here.  

     I really don't care. I'm just having fun.

>All I can say on a personal note is that you've taken a hell of long 
>time to speak up...which does not help matters here at all in 
>view of Casso's ongoing attribute/FAQ/picture munging and deliberate 
>distortion activities. Your picture was just one of many. 

     I was just finding it very entertaining that the two of you were acting
out the nature of the picture.

>However, I will issue no more corrections to your "corrected 
>pictures" no matter what happens to them.  

     Thank you, it's embarrassing.
     I thought you two would stop after a day or so, but it's getting harder to
ignore the two of you bickering over something I had a hand in.

>If it is your choice to regard Casso's activities here purely as light-
>hearted and a big joke...then that's your privilege. Do not expect 
>me to share your views.  

     No, I was just trying to inject some humor into the situation, but I guess
I'll just leave it to the two of you. I don't agree with what he did, but I
don't want to get in a holy war about it either. He'll just go away. In my
opinion, YOU are the one that is keeping him going. Hold on a sec . . . I've
just copyrighted everything I've said in this entire post, you cannot respond
to it without infringing on them.
     I'm sick of this already.

"This entire post" (C) 1998 Lester - AMC
     .-~~-.
    (_^..^_)
Lester||||AMC


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> It is actually quite remarkable to look back and see that the
> present outbreak arose from my History article in my 5th Anniverary
> postings in September crediting Casso as creator of the Steins.
> 
> He chose to take what I had written as an insult and things have
> just worsened since then.

Actually, I made a short, non-acidulous remark on the otherwise nicely written
article, Colin replied, and as every so often this too was blown out of
proportion <sigh> Why can't we just ignore each other?

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[]   .oo     Visit the Gallery of the 'steins!         []
[]  (  -)   http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/        []
[]   " "   Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes  []
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Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> ASCII art 14 Oct 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> It is actually quite remarkable to look back and see that the
>> present outbreak arose from my History article in my 5th Anniverary
>> postings in September crediting Casso as creator of the Steins.
>> 
>> He chose to take what I had written as an insult and things have
>> just worsened since then.

>Actually, I made a short, non-acidulous remark on the otherwise nicely written
>article, Colin replied, and as every so often this too was blown out of
>proportion <sigh> Why can't we just ignore each other?


Why?  You know very well why. You have been told why innumerable times.

Because I, for one, will never ignore your deliberate and blatant 
falsehoods like the ones you have written above.  

To ignore them simply ensures, without any possible doubt, that you 
will continue to repeat them in the same way in the future just as 
you have repeatedly done in the past here.  

Immmediately something offends you then your "peace pact" also
immediately dissolves. We've seen it all before Mr. Casso, ad nauseam.

Nope, the archived records of your postings show exactly what you
wrote, inclusive of your request that I correct my article on Ascii
Art History by editing out what you regarded as "offending words".

Do you think your public postings are not available any longer?

Think again...they give the lie to what you are saying now and they
are available at www.dejanews.com and in people's private archives.


Here are just some of those old, relevant articles:


 __ Extract of my posting on 6 September 1998 __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __
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                                                   |__/      29/8/98

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From: Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz>
Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art,alt.ascii-art.animation
Subject: History
Date: 17 Aug 1998 01:15:43 GMT
Message-ID: <903...@mnementh.southern.co.nz>

In several ways the last 2 years have seen some interesting
developments in the history of Ascii Art and the newsgroup
alt.ascii-art.


Joan Stark has emerged as a very talented, and by far the most
prolific Ascii Artist to date, easily surpassing the collections of
Row; Targon; Susie Oviatt; Normand Veilleux and Allen Mullen.

In 1998 Joan earned a prestigious award from Geocities.com for her
Website on Geocities as well as many tributes and accolades from
those who see and enjoy her excellent work.


             .{{}}}}}}.
            {{{{{}}}}}}}.
           {{{{  }}}}}}}}}           Joan G Stark
          }}}}} _   _ {{{{{   Undisputed queen of ascii art.
          }}}}  6   6  {{{{
         {{{{{    ^    }}}}}
        {{{{{{\  -=-  /}}}}}}
        {{{{{{{;.___.;}}}}}}}
         {{{{{{{)   (}}}}}}}'
          `""'"':   :'"'"'`
        jgs      `@`



Then we have seen the emergence of Pete Casso with his creation of a
new subgenre of "Stein Characters", second only to the well-known
"Silly Cows" genre in Ascii Art, and by far outstripping the other
known genres of Sheep; Owls; Koala Bears, and Luke the Spook.

 The two basic characters were Birdstein and Frogstein...

              _==_
              ( ">            oo.
             (> )>           (-  )
              ^^              " "
           Birdstein       Frogstein


Followed by an ever growing number of other Steins:

01WW5WWW10WWWW5WWW20WWWW5WWW30WWWW5WWW40WWWW5WWW50WWWW5WWW60WWWW5WWW7072
02                                                                    02
03  The 'steins Hall of Fame                                          03
04  by Pete Casso 970920                                              04
05                                                                    05
06     .  +  .                                                        06
07      \^|^/                                                         07
08       .oo                                                          08
09      (  -)         Frogstein, King of the Pond                     09
10       " "                                                          10
11                                                                    11
12        +                                                           12
13      \^^/                                                          13
14      ( ">                                                          14
15      (> )>         Birdstein, Queen of the Sky                     15
16       ^^                                                           16
17                                                                    17
18     (\    /)                                                       18
19     (:\oo/:)                                                       19
20      (  -)         Pegastein, head in the clouds ...               20
21       " "                                                          21
22                                                                    22
23          .oo                                                       23
24     .''''  -)      Sphinxstein, feet on the ground ...             24
25    (__)_)__)_)                                                     25
26                                                                    26
27                                                                    27
28        /(                                                          28
29     /\(oo)/\       Ghostein, a frequent visitor from Heaven        29
30     \      /                                                       30
31                                                                    31
32                                                                    32
33        ,,                                                          33
34       ( "> w                                                       34
35      ,(> )>|       Devilstein, a frequent visitor from Hell        35
36     (  ^^                                                          36
37                                                                    37
38                                                                    38
39        /(                                                          39
40     (\( ">         Roosterstein, the musician in the barnyard      40
41      `(> )>        Often called PeteHovenstein by his fans         41
42        ^^                                                          42
43                                                                    43
44         ,,                                                         44
45        (@@         Owlstein, the wisdom dispenser                  45
46       (> )>        Often called Onestein by his admirers           46
47        ^^                                                          47
48                                                                    48
49        ,,                                                          49
50       ( "/         Dragonstein, who sired the Loch Ness monster    50
51        )\`                                                         51
52        /                                                           52
53                                                                    53
54       _==_                                                         54
55       ( ">                                                         55
56       (>,)>        BrusselsBoystein, who has a cute squirter       56
57        ^^                                                          57
58                                                                    58
59    .         .                                                     59
60   .)\       /(.                                                    60
61  .) ,\ @.@ /, (.                                                   61
62  .) - (,-,) - (.   Draculstein, appearing as a vampire             62
63  .) '/     \` (.                                                   63
64   .)/       \(.                                                    64
65    '         '                                                     65
66                                                                    66
67        ,())                                                        67
68      ,(   ">       Mousestein, who does a great job                68
69     (  " "                     in scaring evil witches away        69
70                                                                    70
71WW5WWW10WWWW5WWW20WWWW5WWW30WWWW5WWW40WWWW5WWW50WWWW5WWW60WWWW5WWW7072

Note:  Pete is now marking his Stein cartoon drawings as Copyright (c).

[...remainder of my Anniversary posting omitted...]

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Message-ID: <35F...@sympatico.ca>
From: Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art,alt.ascii-art.animation
Subject: Re: 5th Anniversary of alt.ascii-art (6)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:51:47 GMT

Colin Douthwaite wrote:
> Then we have seen the emergence of Pete Casso with his creation of a
> new subgenre of "Stein Characters", second only to the well-known
> "Silly Cows" genre in Ascii Art, and by far outstripping the other
> known genres of Sheep; Owls; Koala Bears, and Luke the Spook.

Does the above formulation not contain disparaging words?

-> The 'steins are cartoons (encompassing pics, naming, story lines)
   and not a subgenre of anything else. The 'steins are cartoons with
   their own unique style. The simplest neutral wording here,
   is "Pete Casso created the 'steins."

-> The cow collection is generally known as such, but you compared
   the 'steins with the "Silly Cows"
                         ^^^^^

Perhaps you may want to edit out the offending words.

On a more fundamental note, I don't think that you can compare the
'steins which are cartoons, with the cows, etc which are basically
picture collections (with perhaps with the occasional cartoon in
them.) I think you need to compare apples with apples, i.e. cartoons
with cartoons.

You compared in the above quote apples with oranges, i.e. cartoon
with picture collections, but I am nevertheless curious, what
measures did you take in making your comparisons in the above quote?

[...copyrighted Sig snipped...]

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From: cfb...@southern.co.nz (Colin Douthwaite)
Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art,alt.ascii-art.animation
Subject: Re: 5th Anniversary of alt.ascii-art (6)
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 23:57:44 GMT
Message-ID: <35f...@news.southern.co.nz>

On Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:51:47 GMT, Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>Colin Douthwaite wrote:
>> Then we have seen the emergence of Pete Casso with his creation of a
>> new subgenre of "Stein Characters", second only to the well-known
>> "Silly Cows" genre in Ascii Art, and by far outstripping the other
>> known genres of Sheep; Owls; Koala Bears, and Luke the Spook.

>Does the above formulation not contain disparaging words?

Not in my view but evidently in yours.

>-> The 'steins are cartoons (encompassing pics, naming, story lines)
>   and not a subgenre of anything else. The 'steins are cartoons with
>   their own unique style. The simplest neutral wording here,
>   is "Pete Casso created the 'steins."

>-> The cow collection is generally known as such, but you compared
>   the 'steins with the "Silly Cows"
>                         ^^^^^

I suggest you read the Ascii Art section of "The New Hacker's Dictionary"
edited by Eric Raymond.

>Perhaps you may want to edit out the offending words.

Not really, they were not intended or written to be offensive.

>On a more fundamental note, I don't think that you can compare the
>'steinswhich are cartoons, with the cows, etc which are basically
>picture collections (with perhaps with the occasional cartoon in them.)
>I think you need to compare apples with apples, i.e. cartoons with
>cartoons.

I was not aiming at comparisons but showing that other subgenres of
Ascii Art characters have appeared in the past. No one seems to have
mentioned them previously in historical notes about alt.ascii-art.

>You compared in the above quote apples with oranges, i.e. cartoon
>with picture collections, but I am nevertheless curious, what
>measures did you take in making your comparisons in the above quote?

See above. I was not intentionally making comparisons.

I posted this article on recent ascii art history on 17th August, in
advance of its inclusion in this Anniversary posting. There were one or
two comments from people at that time but I think you must have missed
seeing my August 17 posting...that happens with the known unreliability
of Net propogation. So you failed to comment on my article at that time.
However, had you done so, I would probably have answered you in a
similar way.

Bye,

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Message-ID: <35F...@sympatico.ca>
From: Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art,alt.ascii-art.animation
Subject: Re: 5th Anniversary of alt.ascii-art (6)
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 14:02:11 GMT

Colin Douthwaite wrote:
> I was not intentionally making comparisons.

But the fact is, that you did make the comparisons.

You did make comparisons between two entirely different things,
cartoons and picture collections. As always, comparing apples and
oranges is invalid, and the best proof in this case is, that you
failed to produce the measures that you have used for making the
comparisons.

> Not really, they were not intended or written to be offensive.

The fact is, that the (invalid) comparisons were offensively
written.

For example, you referred to a single dictionary that happens to use
the name "Silly Cows" whereas the whole world knows them simply as
the "Cows" collection. You chose to use the offensive adjective for
making the comparison.

You made invalid comparisons that were offensively written, and then
refused to at least use neutral wording. Wow! But you behave
strangely irrational lately, and not just to me.

In a parallel thread, you violated copyrights which is in itself a
strange occurrence. Even stranger is that you then produced
irrational "reasonings" ... just like here in this thread.

Perhaps you should get some rabies shots ...

P           UncleColinstein got mad ...
e          /
t         /          No wonder! Your brother
e        /          UncleMadDogstein bit him!

[...copyrighted Stein characters omitted...]

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