Either my ISP scews up again,

Or there really _are_ only 12 posts today.

I hope it's the first. Anyway, here's a little something...

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|  _________________  |
|O|                 |#|
| | _______________ | |
| | _______________ | |
| | _______________ | |
| | _______________ | |
| |                 | |
| |_________________| |
|                     |
|   ,----------;      |
|   |  _       |      |
|   | | |      |      |
|   | | |      |     ||
|   | |_|      |     v|
|___|________,_|______|

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> Or there really _are_ only 12 posts today.
> 
> I hope it's the first. Anyway, here's a little something...

As of now, there are 17 messages waiting here for me to sift thru.

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On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 16:04:09 -0500, Nate / DAC <nat...@southwind.net> provoked
the following text:

>> Or there really _are_ only 12 posts today.
>> I hope it's the first. Anyway, here's a little something...
>As of now, there are 17 messages waiting here for me to sift thru.

I agree, today is waaaaaaaay better than a few days ago :-)
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On Thu, 4 May 2000 11:54:15 +0100, Ben Norwood <bdn...@aber.ac.uk> provoked the
following text:

>: I hope it's the first. Anyway, here's a little something...
>Minor re-diddle to show the snipped corner [designed to stop you
>inserting the floppy upside down] and the H) symbol
>:  _____________________
>: |  _________________  |
>: |O|                 |#|
>: | | _______________ | |
>: | | _______________ | |
>: | | _______________ | |
>: | | _______________ | |
>: | |                 | |
>: | |_________________| |
>: |                     |
>: |   ,----------;      |
>: |   |  _       |      |
>: |   | | |      |      |
>: |   | | |      |     ||
>: |(H | |_|      |     v|
>:  \__|________,_|______|


Thanks, but it was only a quick doodle :-))

>Mind you, it's scary to think that in 5yrs time, that little bundle of
>plastic might be extinct, in favour of a 100Mb proprietry format disk
>made by Iomega...

Hmmm... I don't use that...

>...and on the subject of large-capacity "floppies", whatever happened to
>the LS120 (the 120Mb disk format whose drive was able to accept
>standard 1.44Mb floppies) 

I have one! It squeeks, thus making it sound as if there's something wrong with
it so almost no-one wanted to keep the drive if they bought one.
Pity, i had high hope for it.

>or the 2.88Mb floppy (most Motherboards and floppy drives can supposedly 
>support the format, but have you ever seen  a 2.88Mb floppy?)

Again: yes, but i'm a bit exceptional to this stuff. I always bet on the wrong
horse :-))
I had an ED-drive in an FD4000 3.5" floppy drive for the C=64, that drive (with
some custom hard/software) could store up to 3.2 Mb on a floppy, provided it was
formatted the Commodore way (GCR for the insiders, PC uses MFM)

This is what an ED-floppy looks like:
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 |  _________________  |
 | |                 |#|
 |0| _______________ | |
 | | _______________ | |
 | | _______________ | |
 | | _______________ | |
 | |                 | |
 | |_________________| |
 |                     |
 |   ,----------;      |
 |   |  _       |      |
 |   | | |      |      |
 |   | | |      |     ||
 |(3 | |_|      |     v|
  \__|________,_|______|

Not much different uh? Only the hole on the top-left is positioned just a bit
lower than on HD-floppies.

Anyway, there is still one medium which i think can be the future of portable
storage, and that's a simple CD-RW rather than a ZIP-drive (be it the 100Mb
version or the 250Mb version) but that's a medium i still don't have :-))
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On Thu, 04 May 2000 20:31:43 +0200, Peter Punk posted:
>On Thu, 4 May 2000 11:54:15 +0100, Ben Norwood <bdn...@aber.ac.uk> provoked the
>following text:
>
>>:  _____________________
>>: |  _________________  |
>>: |O|                 |#|
>>: | | _______________ | |
>>: | | _______________ | |
>>: | | _______________ | |
>>: | | _______________ | |
>>: | |                 | |
>>: | |_________________| |
>>: |                     |
>>: |   ,----------;      |
>>: |   |  _       |      |
>>: |   | | |      |      |
>>: |   | | |      |     ||
>>: |(H | |_|      |     v|
>>:  \__|________,_|______|
>
[snip!]
>
>>Mind you, it's scary to think that in 5yrs time, that little bundle of
>>plastic might be extinct, in favour of a 100Mb proprietry format disk
>>made by Iomega...
>
>Hmmm... I don't use that...
>

You must be referring to one of these little blighters:

 .-|:"""":""""""'''"""":|-.
:  |'----'-------------'|  :
:  |                    |  :
:  |                    |  :
:  |               mga  |  :
:  | .----------------. |  :
:  |[ zip:          [i]]|  :
:  |[------------------]|  :
:  |[                  ]|  :
:  |[                  ]|  :
:  |[.....        PC100]|  :
:  |[::::::..    iomega]|  :
:  |""""""""""""""""""""|  :
'--'--------------------'--'

There's a large pile of them at my feet, which should be in their boxes...
but, well... *shrug*.

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-Martin
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Martin Atkins <zne...@ovtsbbg.pbz> wrote:

> You must be referring to one of these little blighters:
> 
>  .-|:"""":""""""'''"""":|-.
> :  |'----'-------------'|  :
> :  |                    |  :
> :  |                    |  :
> :  |           mga/jdw  |  :
> :  | .----------------. |  :
> :  |[ FUJIFILM     zip:]|  :
> :  |[------------------]|  :
> :  |[                  ]|  :
> :  |[                  ]|  :
> :  |[                  ]|  :
> :  |[ATOM           100]|  :
> :  |""""""""""""""""""""|  :
> '--'--------------------'--'
Most of mine looke like the one above. FujiFilm knockoffs of the Iomega
originals. About $5 per disk cheaper here in Australia and I've never
had one go bad.

>  .-|:"""":""""""'''"""":|-.
> :  |'----'-------------'|  :
> :  |                    |  :
> :  |                    |  :
> :  |           mga/jdw  |  :
> :  | .----------------. |  :
> :  |[ zip:          [i]]|  :
> :  |[------------------]|  :
> :  |[                  ]|  :
> :  |[                  ]|  :
> :  |[            MAC100]|  :
> :  |[            iomega]|  :
> :  |""""""""""""""""""""|  :
> '--'--------------------'--'
A few of them look like this which only makes sense when you consider my
main computer is running the MacOS. Funnily enough none of mine are in
their original cases either.

On Thu, 4 May 2000 11:54:15 +0100, Ben Norwood <bdn...@aber.ac.uk>
wrote:

>Mind you, it's scary to think that in 5yrs time, that little bundle of
>plastic might be extinct, in favour of a 100Mb proprietry format disk
>made by Iomega...

Ooo, I hope not.. Ever since I heard of the "Click of Death"-problem,
I decided Zip-drives are not an option. (just search for click of
death with altavista and read the horror stories) 

>...and on the subject of large-capacity "floppies", whatever happened to
>the LS120 (the 120Mb disk format whose drive was able to accept
>standard 1.44Mb floppies) or the 2.88Mb floppy (most Motherboards and
>floppy drives can supposedly support the format, but have you ever seen 
>a 2.88Mb floppy?)

Actually, HD drives don't do ED, but the BIOSes support ED drives.
I've seen the floppies, and the drives.. Mostly on IBM machines.

My guess is that they were just too expensive.. The magnetic coating
differs greatly to the one used in HD or DD disks, which is the cause
for the higher price I believe.
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