Re: OT: Spamfighting (was: All YOUR Romantic Needs - Relationship101.com 9857)

On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:52:51 GMT, Nate / DAC <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:

>> Talking about emulators: Years ago, the best C64 emu one could get
>> was C64S, is that still the case or are there better emu's now?
>
>C64S isn't all that great compared to the others - CCS64 and VICE the the
>two big ones right now.  VIC is the only one that emulates PETs, the B and
>C 128's, VIC-20, and others.  CCS64, if I remember right, is the most
>cycle-exact and fastest of the two.
>
>VICE's features, though, clearly outweigh CCS64's speed/cycle exactness.
>
>I know Ville Jouppi is on this newsgroup also, maybe he can answer this
>one.
>
>How about it, Jope?

Yes, I was almost going to comment on that one when Peter mentioned C64S..
C64S was very good back in '95, but nowadays it's been well surpassed by the
newer emulators. At one point it seemed that everyone and their dog was coming
out with a C64 emulator. Well, a few did rise out of the grey mass;

VICE
CCS64
Frodo

Frodo was the first cycle exact emulator, but it's quite forgotten nowdays..
It was too far ahead of it's time.. When it came on the Amiga, there wasn't a
machine fast enough to handle the heaviest version.
Sorry, can't find an URL for this emulator. :-(

CCS64 is WinTel only, does a good job and has been a good choice from the very
beginning. It was the first to offer cartridge and REU support, for example.
http://www.computerbrains.com/ccs64

VICE is portable, there are versions for quite a few platforms.. As Nate said,
it's very feature rich, but not quite as exact as CCS. The C64 and PET
emulators are good, but the VIC and C128 sides aren't 100% yet. Still waiting
for the 264-series.. ;-)
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/%7Edsladic/vice/vice.html

I use Vice normally, and then switch to CCS if something doesn't look right
with Vice. It's a matter of taste.. Before I started using VICE I swore by
CCS.. :-)

This is veering quite fast into comp.emulation.cbm.. :-)

ObScii:

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A mouse that looks disturbingly like a certain frog.. eek.

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