Re: Marge -- new cartoon
JRO wrote: > Veronica Karlsson wrote: > >Sure, we even have our own form of "fuzzy logic". It's called "lagom". > >Don't ask me to explain it to you, I have tried and failed before. The > >concept doesn't exist in any other language than Swedish. > > Ah, so the application of Swedish logic is called "logjam". Not "logjam", "lagom". > I do not think it unique to just "Swedus Logicus", however. It is commonly > known the world over as "Female Logic", or "Feminis Logicus". Oh, no, it's not. It's a special thing that can only be found in Swedish. Not in any other language. If you say that it exists in English then you just haven't _understood_ it yet. There's nothing feminine about it either. In fact it was invented by beer-drinking men who wanted to pass a big mug of beer around the table. Everybody should be able to get a share but when the mug came back to the top again there should be nothing left in it. To make this work each person at the table had to make a perfect judgement of how much to drink. Here are some links on the subject: http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/4645/sid4.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Zone/4030/swede.html "Not too much and not too little" is over-simplifying this. Just think, there wouldn't be so many explanations about this on the web if it was that simple... Sometimes lagom can mean "More than you have on that plate!", sometimes it can mean "Nothing, please!". http://kagg19.kagg.gy-edu.kalmar.se/~mp96brbj/purpose/ebot.html http://www.bahnhof.se/~johanl/middle/lagom.html Lagom is a Swedish word, very difficult to translate. "Lagom is best" we say, meaning it is not too good. "Lagom is best" we say, meaning things are the way they should be. But no more than that. http://www.fek.su.se/Home/gus/PAPERS/Swedval.htm "The word itself is untranslatable. It refers to an undefined state between extremes, "not too much, not too little". The dictionary suggest "just right, just enough, sufficiently, adequate, fitting, appropriate, moderate", which hardly captures the inner subjective logic of this genuinely Swedish value." [two more, huge, paragraphs waiting for you on that page] http://www.gbn.org/BookClub/Sweden.html http://www.e.kth.se/esekt/org/bh/rules-short.html http://www.webcom.com/~eha/idiom.html http://learning.mit.edu/HilaryBrad-NaturalStep-LH.html -- (, http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/cgi/asciichat/ /|__--__ . __--__ |\ '__ /|\ _{ _ `.' / `.,_ _________ | _________ _,.' (/ `. / ||``._.' ASCII ART CHAT! `---'|:||,/ .' /| /|:| \ .' /\ \ __ __ _ `/|'\' ` `,/ /`,\ \ \ / /__ _ _ ___ _ _ (_)__ __ _ /,'\ \ .'.' /| \ V / -_) '_/ _ \ ' \| / _/ _` | |\ `.`. ,' / / | \_/\___|_| \___/_||_|_\__\__,_| | \ \ `, - `- -- `-'- -ejm-------------------------------------VK-- -`-' -- -' -
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