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Original Usenet message from alt.ascii-art, 19 Feb 1999.
Re: Marge -- new cartoon

Re: Marge -- new cartoon

JRO wrote:
> Veronica Karlsson wrote:
> >Sure, we even have our own form of "fuzzy logic". It's called "lagom".
> >Don't ask me to explain it to you, I have tried and failed before. The
> >concept doesn't exist in any other language than Swedish.
> 
> Ah, so the application of Swedish logic is called "logjam".

Not "logjam", "lagom".

> I do not think it unique to just "Swedus Logicus", however. It is commonly
> known the world over as "Female Logic", or "Feminis Logicus".

Oh, no, it's not. It's a special thing that can only be found in
Swedish. Not in any other language. If you say that it exists in English
then you just haven't _understood_ it yet.

There's nothing feminine about it either. In fact it was invented by
beer-drinking men who wanted to pass a big mug of beer around the table.
Everybody should be able to get a share but when the mug came back to
the top again there should be nothing left in it. To make this work each
person at the table had to make a perfect judgement of how much to
drink.

Here are some links on the subject:

http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/4645/sid4.html

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Zone/4030/swede.html

"Not too much and not too little" is over-simplifying this. Just think,
there wouldn't be so many explanations about this on the web if it was
that simple... Sometimes lagom can mean "More than you have on that
plate!", sometimes it can mean "Nothing, please!".

http://kagg19.kagg.gy-edu.kalmar.se/~mp96brbj/purpose/ebot.html

http://www.bahnhof.se/~johanl/middle/lagom.html

                          Lagom is a
                          Swedish word,
                          very difficult
                          to translate.



                            
                            "Lagom is best"
                            we say, meaning
                            it is not too
                            good.



                                      "Lagom is best"
                                      we say, meaning
                                      things are the
                                      way they should
                                      be. But no more
                                      than that.


http://www.fek.su.se/Home/gus/PAPERS/Swedval.htm

"The word itself is untranslatable. It refers to an undefined state
between extremes, "not too much, not too little". The dictionary suggest
"just right, just enough, sufficiently, adequate, fitting, appropriate,
moderate", which hardly captures the inner subjective logic of this
genuinely Swedish value."

[two more, huge, paragraphs waiting for you on that page]

http://www.gbn.org/BookClub/Sweden.html

http://www.e.kth.se/esekt/org/bh/rules-short.html

http://www.webcom.com/~eha/idiom.html

http://learning.mit.edu/HilaryBrad-NaturalStep-LH.html


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