Re: Bring me to Life

Sorry I can't read replies that are more than 50x the length of my post.
Sorry.

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>i never would have thought that a simple cauldron with some modern
>song
>lyrics would have sparked such a debate.  for the record, i happen to 
>think that "Bring me to Life" is an excellent song, and Evanescene is 
>a good band, but i predict that they'll be a flash in the pan, that 
>they'll have a really good 15 minutes of fame that they'll be able to 
>ride on for awhile (and perhaps some will do side projects and solo 
>efforts), and then they'll enter into the collective memory as "one 
>of those fairly good bands of the early 00's", only slightly less 
>memorable than Linkin Park (who are enjoying their time in the 
>spotlight a lot longer than i would have predicted).
>
>Bateau <Gam...@work.stomping.aza> wrote in message news:<hga...@4ax.com>...
>
>> No talent, no effort. It's crap.
>
>"talent" is a matter of opinion.  not sure if you're referring to my 
>cauldron, the song, or both, but it's still simply opinion.  i hate 
>the music of Hanson, but when you consider how young they were when 
>they cut their first album, and the fact that they actually did play 
>their instruments (which is more than can be said for the Monkees), 
>they were pretty damn talented. (talent?  yes.  effort?  plenty.  
>still crap?  yup)
>
>as for "effort", if you really need a play-by-play, here it is...
>1) first i had to get the cauldron just right.  i couldn't find any 
>decent clipart that wasn't more colorful than it needed to be or had 
>fuzzy edges that were just no good.  i found that the "Woolbats" font 
>had a good cauldron as one of its characters, so then i had to create 
>a gif file of that character.  
>2) i had find the lyrics to the song, delete some redundancies, clean 
>up some typos, and eliminate all carriage returns.  
>3) using JavE to camelize it wasn't just a 3-second "click-click" 
>deal, i had to choose and tweak the settings, since the default 
>settings didn't satisfy me
>4) diddling in EditPad wasn't all that difficult, but still needed 
>to be done.
>
>do you think ppl shouldn't use JavE?  it's kinda like Fruity Loops.
>i know some ppl that download Fruity Loops, put about 10 minutes 
>effort into making a song, and the song actually sounds like something
>from Fatboy Slim or Chemical Brothers, and suddenly they're on the 
>charts at mp3.com.  on the other hand, some ppl have used FL to make
>innovative, interesting, intelligent music.  myself, i prefer to use
>a real tracker, like Fast Tracker II (old school) or ModPlug Tracker 
>(windows equivalent, more user-friendly but stiil requires some actual
>skill), but if someone uses FL and comes up with something original 
>(and good), i'm not going to reject it because it required "no effort"
>
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