Re: Jave1.1 released

Russell Marks wrote:
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> (I hope the group will tolerate this in the absence of an
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> > > > [...]
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> I didn't quote that, please don't misrepresent my posts.

You are right, I apologize.

> > 1) As kind of an experiment I have made the Jave Movie Player an open
> > source project (http://www.jave.de/player/). This applet is a part of
> 
> Bad choice for an experiment, IMHO. I suspect only people already
> using Jave would look at this

Tha Jave movie/animation player project is not based on Jave - it work's
independently and provides the most complete open file format for ascii
animations I have seen yet.
Up to now there were no advantages for me (and others) by releasing it
as open source.

> - and why would you use Jave if you were
> a fan of open source?

I am a fan of freeware rather than open source software. If someone does
not like freeware (?) I will not try to force him to use any...
(BTW: I am a fan of open source software when it is a about security
resons. This is true for web servers, firewalls, mail clients, etc. -
but I do not care that much about security in text editors)

When using freeware I always know that there is somebody who feels
responsible to fix bugs and to provide a stable version. With open
source software I see two scenarious:
 1) The apache scenario
There are a lot of highly qualified people working on something that a
lot of people need: A highly configurable web server, faster and more
secure than others and not from a monopol company like MS.
 2) pick-one-of-the-many-releases-and-fix-it-yourself scenario
I think about the thousands of web sites with open source projects that
are in fact dead. I have had this experience when looking for a good
Java GIF encoder for example. There were many versions based on the same
piece of source code - they all were different in some way and each of
them was incomplete.  Some of them were optimized for certain platforms
and did not run on e.g. Linux any longer. I have had the same experience
with some more or less complete programs...

I do not think Jave belongs to scenario 1). And I do not want Jave to
pass away. Instead I want to fix the bugs, write documentation and I
want to make it work on as many systems as possible. This is my way of
supporting open systems.

There is one more thing you have to know: As soon as Jave becomes open
source I will lose my motivation on working on it. And I am not going to
be someone who coordinates new releases then. Jave grew from the fun I
had and still have in writing extraordinary cool algorithms/tools.

> If you provide matching binaries,
> then any source code that compiles and has a licence is in an
> acceptable form for release (since you wouldn't expect users to
> compile it, just programmers). So this reason is invalid.

So there are no disadvantages for me to release the source code, but
what are the advantages? Why should I release it?

> And again I must ask - why not?

And I ask: why?

Markus

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